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Date: 19 Jun 2008 17:48:32
From: Hal Womack 3-dan
Subject: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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San Francisco Bay Area Go Players' Association Monthly AGA Ratings Tournament This will be a one-day, four-round, AGA-rated tournament held in the heart of San Francisco's Japantown. Note we will be squeezing four rounds of play into one day instead of the usual three, so you won't want to miss it. All levels are welcome. There will be Go book prizes for four game winners and those playing in their first AGA-rated tournament (who play all four rounds). * Read the tournament flier for more information. * Register online. (It only takes a moment, and is easier than filling out a registration form on the day of the tournament.) * Pay your tournament entry fee online with a credit card or PayPal. Tournament Flyer: June AGA Ratings Tournament Saturday, June 21, 2008 San Francisco, California Four rounds of AGA-rated play AGA rules Time allowance will be 45 minutes basic, 5/30 overtime Go book prizes for four game winners and those playing in their first Go tournament Players of all levels are welcome 9:00 =96 Registration opens 10:00 =96 Round 1 begins Subsequent rounds begin when previous rounds finish, with a break for lunch You must sign in by 9:45 in order to be assured a spot in the first round Entry fee: $5 for players under 23 years of age, $10 for everyone else Pay in advance with credit card or PayPal, or pay onsite with cash or check There is an additional fee if you are not a current AGA member Avoid paperwork! Register online at www.bayareago.org/register-june.html Union Bank Hospitality Room 1675 Post Street, in Japantown's Miyako Mall San Francisco, CA 94115 Indoor parking is available, and buses stop nearby. Visit www.sfjapantown.org/direction.html for parking and transportation details. For additional information: o Bay Area Go Players Association website: www.bayareago.org o Steve Burrall: 916-688-2858 (work) o Roger Schrag: 510-501-2701 (cell) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Courtesy cross-post by Hal Womack 3-dan The original name of this most ancient, elegant & poweful game =3D "_wei chi_" or "surrounding chess" in Chinese and in Korean "_baduk_". Should we consider calling it in English "turff" ? Other possible options include "space, matrix" and "grid".
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Date: 06 Jul 2008 13:02:39
From: xeno
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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On Jul 2, 9:55=A0am, Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected] > wrote: > Looks cultural to me. the evidence is to the contrary to whatever it "looks" likes to you. at any rate, the APA doesn't consider it to be pathological. apparently you think it is. call it an appeal to authority & an argument against you but i think you should stick to GO. at least with that game you can't fuck shit up with specious nonsense.
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Date: 08 Jul 2008 22:23:24
From: -
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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> Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Looks cultural to me. xeno <[email protected] > wrote: > the evidence is to the contrary to whatever it "looks" likes to you. What "evidence" might that be ? > at any rate, the APA doesn't consider it to be pathological. Why "at any rate" if you had convincing "evidence" ? Who is the APA? Do they play Go, by any chance? Just asking... > apparently you think it is. call it an appeal to authority & an > argument against you but i think you should stick to GO. at least > with that game you can't fuck shit up with specious nonsense. Hal was addressing matters of recruitment for a Go Tournament. Some mothers prefer Jiffy peanut butter instead of Hershey Hiway. - regards - jb ------------------------------------------------------ Prepping Kids for Sex Change http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=5099 ------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 06 Jul 2008 12:57:11
From: xeno
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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On Jul 2, 9:55=A0am, Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected] > wrote: > MY 8 FAVORITE FAGGOTS OR > SQUARE HOLE JIG-JIG > > ByHalWomack3-danhttp://www.myspace.com/halwomack > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Gosh, the subject of sex, male & female, why that's just = about as big > as the universe and this old man has yet to have breakfast this > morning before going off to my weekly lesson in the game of > surrounding aka "_go_*" from my highly esteemed 6-dan teacher. > So for now I will merely pause briefly to reply to the nameless > buttfucker or soi disant "gay man" signing itself as "MtnViewMark > <[email protected]>" [henceforth "2-shy"]. =A0In a post of only > 179 words, which pretends to welcome the public to a tournament, 2-shy > manages to call me "hostile, ignorant, rude, nasty and obnoxious," > apparently based entirely on my second post in this thread, since it > claims that it has "never once encountered" me. This BTW suggests that > 2-shy's a rather weak player, since it also claims to have been > "playing Go in the SF Bay Area for on an [sic] > off over the last twenty years." But then it's been simply ages since > the late revered Shinji Dote Sensei took the old SFGC gang down to > Mountain View for a match. > > At any rate, the instant twit scarcely sounds very "gay" to me, in the > older sense of the word, of course. Rather screechy, I'd say. > Perhaps nervous about some pussy complex? I encourage HEAR or the > "Hypothetical Ever-Attentive Reader" to review the thread for a fair > evaluation and also welcome jb's grip on the issues. > > In the spirit, however, of cheerful compromise, PFAB or "Please Find > Appended Below" below my own little list of public homosexuals in > recent history for whose accomplishments I have great respect. The > queer crowd also put on a great parade here in San Francisco, although > really I would prefer a worthier theme for such a massive celebration. > The first positive result of the DB's local prominence be this: That > when one sees a boy and a girl holding hands here, then one can pretty > well count on it being a sincere & spontaneous affection, rather than > an example of enforced conformity. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 TBC, Dog willing. > > * Or _wei chi_, _baduk_ or "turff". > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 1. Oscar Wilde > 2. Dennis Peron > 3. A.E. Housman > 4. Somerset Maugham > 5. Charles Laughton > 6. Gore Vidal* > 7. James Baldwin > 8. Tennessee Williams > > * With the glaring exception of his astounding treachery in the case > of Timothy McVeigh. > .........................................................................= ..=AD... > > NOTES: > 1. > "Is the beheading of homosexuals an Islamic religious > duty?"* > =3D first Google Groups result for searching "gay + politics". > > * Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa, uk.politics.misc, aus.politics, > can.politics, nz.general > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:04:04 -0700 (PDT) > Local: Wed, Jun 18 2008 9:04 am > Subject: Is the beheading of homosexuals an Islamic religious duty? > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > On Jun 26, 4:54 pm, xeno <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jun 24, 9:36 pm,HalWomack3-dan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ...has condemned its individual members to suicide in > > > one generation... > > > gayness is apparently genetic so your premise is not scientifically > > sound. you do have issues in the soundness department in general in > > your cant. > > Looks cultural to me. Let HEAR judge x's record for herself.
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Date: 02 Jul 2008 09:55:08
From: Hal Womack 3-dan
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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MY 8 FAVORITE FAGGOTS OR SQUARE HOLE JIG-JIG By Hal Womack 3-dan http://www.myspace.com/halwomack Gosh, the subject of sex, male & female, why that's just about as big as the universe and this old man has yet to have breakfast this morning before going off to my weekly lesson in the game of surrounding aka "_go_*" from my highly esteemed 6-dan teacher. So for now I will merely pause briefly to reply to the nameless buttfucker or soi disant "gay man" signing itself as "MtnViewMark <[email protected] >" [henceforth "2-shy"]. In a post of only 179 words, which pretends to welcome the public to a tournament, 2-shy manages to call me "hostile, ignorant, rude, nasty and obnoxious," apparently based entirely on my second post in this thread, since it claims that it has "never once encountered" me. This BTW suggests that 2-shy's a rather weak player, since it also claims to have been "playing Go in the SF Bay Area for on an [sic] off over the last twenty years." But then it's been simply ages since the late revered Shinji Dote Sensei took the old SFGC gang down to Mountain View for a match. At any rate, the instant twit scarcely sounds very "gay" to me, in the older sense of the word, of course. Rather screechy, I'd say. Perhaps nervous about some pussy complex? I encourage HEAR or the "Hypothetical Ever-Attentive Reader" to review the thread for a fair evaluation and also welcome jb's grip on the issues. In the spirit, however, of cheerful compromise, PFAB or "Please Find Appended Below" below my own little list of public homosexuals in recent history for whose accomplishments I have great respect. The queer crowd also put on a great parade here in San Francisco, although really I would prefer a worthier theme for such a massive celebration. The first positive result of the DB's local prominence be this: That when one sees a boy and a girl holding hands here, then one can pretty well count on it being a sincere & spontaneous affection, rather than an example of enforced conformity. TBC, Dog willing. * Or _wei chi_, _baduk_ or "turff". ================================== 1. Oscar Wilde 2. Dennis Peron 3. A.E. Housman 4. Somerset Maugham 5. Charles Laughton 6. Gore Vidal* 7. James Baldwin 8. Tennessee Williams * With the glaring exception of his astounding treachery in the case of Timothy McVeigh. .............................................................................. NOTES: 1. "Is the beheading of homosexuals an Islamic religious duty?"* = first Google Groups result for searching "gay + politics". * Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa, uk.politics.misc, aus.politics, can.politics, nz.general From: "[email protected]" <[email protected] > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Local: Wed, Jun 18 2008 9:04 am Subject: Is the beheading of homosexuals an Islamic religious duty? ================================================================= On Jun 26, 4:54 pm, xeno <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jun 24, 9:36 pm, Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ...has condemned its individual members to suicide in > > one generation... > > gayness is apparently genetic so your premise is not scientifically > sound. you do have issues in the soundness department in general in > your cant. Looks cultural to me. Let HEAR judge x's record for herself.
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Date: 26 Jun 2008 16:54:50
From: xeno
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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On Jun 24, 9:36=A0pm, Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected] > wrote: > ...has condemned its individual members to suicide in > one generation... gayness is apparently genetic so your premise is not scientifically sound. you do have issues in the soundness department in general in your cant.
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Date: 24 Jun 2008 21:36:50
From: Hal Womack 3-dan
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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In 30 years of playing the game of surrounding here in San Francisco, I can remember meeting only one revealed deebee* across the board or in the company of other masters. This unique exception was a multi- dan, a well-mannered & cultured sort reasonably popular in the Club who long ago emigrated to Japan. Thus it would seem that our game may act as a strong filter against the DB mindset, given its notorious prevalence elsewhere in the City. * aka "D.B." for Dick Bumper, from the Texas joke: "What do they do, go out in the woods and B D's ?" I despise euphemisms, most especially weaselly rip-offs of worthy old English words which then become adopted as standard usage in the Official Culture of JAM or the Jewish-American eMpire. Of all such, surely the most egregious = the gang-raping of the word "gay". All weddings should be gay, eh what? And what population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by excluding marriage & children as its first principle, has condemned its individual members to suicide in one generation and of which, furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly, incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease? Whereas Billy Lee Brammer's 1961 novel* THE GAY PLACE used the word purely in its then traditional sense, without embarrassment or campiness whatsoever, four years later the excellent Ross Thomas in his first novel** gives us one of the earliest examples of the queer variant. * {Author Brammer, Billy Lee. Title The gay place : being three related novels: The flea circus, Room enough to caper, Country pleasures / William Brammer. Publication Info. Greenwich, Conn. : Fawcett, 1962, c1961.} ** {"He was gay," Symmes said dully. "Maybe you think it's silly, but we can tell. We have to able to tell." -- THE COLD WAR SWAP [1966, p. 113] by Ross Thomas.} ================================================== On Jun 24, 2:48 pm, Bibon <[email protected] > wrote: > On 2008-06-19 20:48:32 -0400, Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected]> said: > > > > > Courtesy cross-post by Hal Womack 3-dan > > > The original name of this most ancient, elegant & poweful game = "_wei > > chi_" or "surrounding chess" in Chinese and in Korean "_baduk_". > > Should we consider calling it in English "turff" ? > > Other possible options include "space, matrix" and "grid". > > "GRID" would be a spot-on name for the game in San Francisco. > > "A doctor was treating a gay man in his 20s who had pneumonia. ... it > "gay compromise syndrome".16 Others called it GRID (gay-related immune > deficiency), ..." > > www.avert.org/his81_86.htm > > -- > Semper Gumby Newsgroups: rec.games.go, alt.politics.homosexuality, soc.culture.asian.american, rec.games.chess.misc, alt.california, ba.general From: Bibon <[email protected] > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:48:18 GMT Local: Tues, Jun 24 2008 2:48 pm Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21 {Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Jul 1, 2:48 pm).} How much sympathy for their shyness do anonymous authors of vanishing messages deserve?
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Date: 24 Jun 2008 21:48:18
From: Bibon
Subject: Re: _Go_ Tournament SF Sat 6/21
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On 2008-06-19 20:48:32 -0400, Hal Womack 3-dan <[email protected] > said: > > > Courtesy cross-post by Hal Womack 3-dan > > The original name of this most ancient, elegant & poweful game = "_wei > chi_" or "surrounding chess" in Chinese and in Korean "_baduk_". > Should we consider calling it in English "turff" ? > Other possible options include "space, matrix" and "grid". "GRID" would be a spot-on name for the game in San Francisco. "A doctor was treating a gay man in his 20s who had pneumonia. ... it "gay compromise syndrome".16 Others called it GRID (gay-related immune deficiency), ..." www.avert.org/his81_86.htm -- Semper Gumby
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