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Date: 19 Mar 2008 01:58:53
From: samsloan
Subject: Trusting the Executive Director
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If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of Chess Life. The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized expenditures. As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. Sam Sloan
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Date: 30 Mar 2008 05:56:17
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 29, 7:53 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Thank you for explaining this. Yes, I wish to appeal. I am totally > mystified as to why this posting was considered a violation or AUG. > > Is it a violation because I wrote that the USCF has lost $2 million > since 1999? Everybody agrees that this is true, except for > disagreement as to the amount. Mike Nolan said that the loss was only > $1.3 million up to 2005, for example. > > My statement "if you have an executive director who lies" was clearly > hypothetical. We have had eight executive directors since 1999. Many > members have different opinions as to who was honest and who was > dishonest. For example some say that Cavallo was "utterly worthless" > but my opinion is that he was a good executive director. > > I personally think that DeFeis lost most of the $2 million. Others > think is was Niro. And so on. It is a matter of opinion. As long as we > agree that $2 million was lost we should be allowed to debate who lost > it and why. > > I am also mystified by the statement that if this sanction is reversed > there will still be two strikes against me, for two prior sanctions. > What were those two sanctions? Why am I not allowed to know about them > so that I can defend myself. > > Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting > states: > > "This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and > therefore is against the AUG." > > I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than > what I think. The executive directors since 1999 have been Cavallo, > Dullea, DeFeis, Niro, Perks, Goichberg, Beatriz inello (acting) and > Hall, plus Nolan was acting executive director for about two weeks in > 2003 after Niro disappeared. > > Tim Sawmiller in notification that I was suspended from posting states > that my post obviously referred to a specific ED. I am wondering which > one he thinks that this obviously referred to. I would like Mr. > Sawmiller to tell us to which specific ED my posting refers. > > Sam Sloan Probably the one you attacked publicly and broadcast his personal medical information over the internet.
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Date: 29 Mar 2008 17:53:24
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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Thank you for explaining this. Yes, I wish to appeal. I am totally mystified as to why this posting was considered a violation or AUG. Is it a violation because I wrote that the USCF has lost $2 million since 1999? Everybody agrees that this is true, except for disagreement as to the amount. Mike Nolan said that the loss was only $1.3 million up to 2005, for example. My statement "if you have an executive director who lies" was clearly hypothetical. We have had eight executive directors since 1999. Many members have different opinions as to who was honest and who was dishonest. For example some say that Cavallo was "utterly worthless" but my opinion is that he was a good executive director. I personally think that DeFeis lost most of the $2 million. Others think is was Niro. And so on. It is a matter of opinion. As long as we agree that $2 million was lost we should be allowed to debate who lost it and why. I am also mystified by the statement that if this sanction is reversed there will still be two strikes against me, for two prior sanctions. What were those two sanctions? Why am I not allowed to know about them so that I can defend myself. Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting states: "This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and therefore is against the AUG." I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than what I think. The executive directors since 1999 have been Cavallo, Dullea, DeFeis, Niro, Perks, Goichberg, Beatriz inello (acting) and Hall, plus Nolan was acting executive director for about two weeks in 2003 after Niro disappeared. Tim Sawmiller in notification that I was suspended from posting states that my post obviously referred to a specific ED. I am wondering which one he thinks that this obviously referred to. I would like Mr. Sawmiller to tell us to which specific ED my posting refers. Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 20:40:38
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Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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Rob wrote: > On 20, 6:14=EF=BF=BDam, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > > > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > > > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > > > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > > > Chess Life. > > > > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > > > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > > > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have= > > > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > > > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > > > expenditures. > > > > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off= > > > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > > > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting > > states: > > > > "The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > > expenditures." > > > > This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and > > therefore is against the AUG. > > > > I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than > > what I think. There is an old saying, "if the shoe fits, wear it". > > Which specific ED does Mr. Sawmiller feel the above statement best > > applies to?? > > > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Since Sloan has been banned again from the USCF postings, how long > will his errant and inflamatory behaivor be tolerated? What are the > legal steps to restrict membership in the organization? WHat would he > do with his time if he should be refunded all of his dues for the last > 30 years and banned from participation in the organization? Does > anyone know? He hasn't been banned. He's been put in the "moderation queue" (again). All that means is that his posts have to be approved by a grown-up before they can appear. Sam doesn't like adult oversight.
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 07:12:06
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 20, 6:14=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > > Chess Life. > > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > > expenditures. > > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > > Sam Sloan > > Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting > states: > > "The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > expenditures." > > This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and > therefore is against the AUG. > > I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than > what I think. There is an old saying, "if the shoe fits, wear it". > Which specific ED does Mr. Sawmiller feel the above statement best > applies to?? > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Since Sloan has been banned again from the USCF postings, how long will his errant and inflamatory behaivor be tolerated? What are the legal steps to restrict membership in the organization? WHat would he do with his time if he should be refunded all of his dues for the last 30 years and banned from participation in the organization? Does anyone know?
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 04:28:04
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting states: "This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and therefore is against the AUG." I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than what I think. The executive directors since 1999 have been Cavallo, Dullea, DeFeis, Niro, Perks, Goichberg, Beatriz inello (acting) and Hall, plus Nolan was acting executive director for about two weeks in 2003 after Niro disappeared. Tim Sawmiller in notification that I was suspended from posting states that my post obviously referred to a specific ED. I am wondering which one he thinks that this obviously referred to. I would like Mr. Sawmiller to tell us to which specific ED my posting refers. Is Mr. Sawmiller guilty of violating the AUG by suggesting that a certain specific ED is guilty of the practices outlined above? Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 04:25:21
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director or Sloan?
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On 20, 6:14 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > > Chess Life. > > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > > expenditures. > > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > > Sam Sloan > > Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting > states: > > "The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > expenditures." > > This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and > therefore is against the AUG. > > I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than > what I think. There is an old saying, "if the shoe fits, wear it". > Which specific ED does Mr. Sawmiller feel the above statement best > applies to?? > > Sam Sloan Since you called for him to be fired... you know the answer to that, don't you? How can you fire someone from a position they do not hold?
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 04:14:17
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > Chess Life. > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > expenditures. > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > Sam Sloan Tim Sawmiller, in announcing that I have been suspended from posting states: "The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized expenditures." This confirms that the author is speaking of this specific ED and therefore is against the AUG. I believe that this tells us more about what Mr. Sawmiller thinks than what I think. There is an old saying, "if the shoe fits, wear it". Which specific ED does Mr. Sawmiller feel the above statement best applies to?? Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 04:13:46
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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> Tim Sawmiller in notification that I was suspended from posting states > that my post "obviously" referred to a specific ED. I am wondering > which one he thinks that this obviously referred to. > Sam Sloan Since you called for him to be fired... you know the answer to that, don't you? How can you fire someone from a position they do not hold?
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Date: 20 Mar 2008 04:08:47
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 20, 12:26 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote: > On 20, 12:21 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not true. The USCF has had seven Executive Directors since 1999. Eight > > if you could Mike Nolan who was in effect Acting Executive Director > > for just a few days. > > Okay, I admit I forgot; can you tell us (again) > who it is that appoints the Executive Director > of the USCF? > > -- help bot The board appoints the Executive Director. The current Executive Director was appointed in 2005 at the time that the USCF was moving to Crossville. Most people who meet the current executive director think that he is a good guy and I thought so too until he was caught in several lies in early 2007. The Executive Directors since 1999 have been Cavallo, Dullea, DeFeis, Niro, Perks, Goichberg, Beatriz inello (acting) and Hall, plus Nolan was acting executive director for about two weeks in 2003 after Niro disappeared. Tim Sawmiller in notification that I was suspended from posting states that my post "obviously" referred to a specific ED. I am wondering which one he thinks that this obviously referred to. Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 22:26:45
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 20, 12:21 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Not true. The USCF has had seven Executive Directors since 1999. Eight > if you could Mike Nolan who was in effect Acting Executive Director > for just a few days. Okay, I admit I forgot; can you tell us (again) who it is that appoints the Executive Director of the USCF? -- help bot
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 21:21:12
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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Not true. The USCF has had seven Executive Directors since 1999. Eight if you could Mike Nolan who was in effect Acting Executive Director for just a few days. Thus, my generalized statement could apply to any, none or all of them. Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 15:50:51
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 19, 4:58 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > Chess Life. > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > expenditures. > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. In such a case, it is obvious that the people who appointed the E.D. are clueless; I say, fire them and get somebody else. Say, is it not true that SS was once among those who did the choosing? Hmmm. -- help bot
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 11:07:22
From: Rob
Subject: Re: More S.O.U.P. from S.ome L.iar O.n A.nother N.ewsgroup
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On 19, 12:55=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On 19, 12:09 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am and so is anyone else who cares to read a ballance sheet. What > > you say is wrong. I don't know if it is wrong due to ignorance or > > intentional malice. > > I am happy to hear that you have the balance sheet. > > Please show it to us because nobody else has it and we have been > waiting for it. > > Sam Sloan Did I said I had it? No. I am happy to know you would like to see it. Rob
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 10:55:26
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: More S.O.U.P. from S.ome L.iar O.n A.nother N.ewsgroup
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On 19, 12:09 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote: > I am and so is anyone else who cares to read a ballance sheet. What > you say is wrong. I don't know if it is wrong due to ignorance or > intentional malice. I am happy to hear that you have the balance sheet. Please show it to us because nobody else has it and we have been waiting for it. Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 10:09:12
From: Rob
Subject: More S.O.U.P. from S.ome L.iar O.n A.nother N.ewsgroup
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On 19, 8:20=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > > Chess Life. > > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > > expenditures. > > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > > Sam Sloan > I did not accuse anybody of being a liar. I was just discussing a > hypothetical situation. Sure you did. Don't parse words. > Nobody is disputing the fact that the USCF has lost $2 million since > 1999 and is losing $300,000 more thus far this year. I am and so is anyone else who cares to read a ballance sheet. What you say is wrong. I don't know if it is wrong due to ignorance or intentional malice. > It is time for you to start trying to find solutions for these > problems rather than simply removing the postings of those who point > them out. You point everything out. "Look ,the sky is blue! Look I'm standing on the ground. Look , can I fly? What if I could fly?" You are an unmitigated bore and a monsterous gadfly. Creighton has nothing positive to say about you. And your own family knows you best,don't they? > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 09:49:48
From:
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 19, 9:20=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > > Nobody is disputing the fact that the USCF has lost $2 million since > 1999 and is losing $300,000 more thus far this year. I don't know, Sam. Considering that it's you saying this, it wouldn't surprise me if the USCF was making a huge profit.
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 06:20:14
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Trusting the Executive Director
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On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > Chess Life. > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > expenditures. > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > Sam Sloan I did not accuse anybody of being a liar. I was just discussing a hypothetical situation. Nobody is disputing the fact that the USCF has lost $2 million since 1999 and is losing $300,000 more thus far this year. It is time for you to start trying to find solutions for these problems rather than simply removing the postings of those who point them out. Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 23:20:03
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Sam Sloan the inveterate liar (was: Trusting the Executive Director)
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On ch 19 2008 samsloan <[email protected] > wrote in news: 2399460c-d405-4a13-884a-db6ae329fe11@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > I did not accuse anybody of being a liar. Liar LIAR! ! ! L I A R ! ! Sam Sloan has a long and extensively documented history of accusing, often in public, others of being liars. Therefore Sloan's claim (that he did not accuse anybody of being a liar) is itself an outrageous lie. As I may have stated before, Sam Sloan is an inveterate liar who does not believe in telling //small// lies.
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Date: 19 Mar 2008 04:17:30
From: Rob
Subject: SOUP from Sloan
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On 19, 3:58 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > If you have an Executive Director who is utterly worthless, or who > does not tell the board what he is doing or who often lies about what > he has done, then you have a situation where the ED cannot be trusted > with such critical decisions as the hiring or firing of the Editor of > Chess Life. > > The USCF has lost more than two million dollars since 1999 and is > losing $300,000 more so far this year. None of this is the fault of > the board or of the delegates because in every year the delegates have > passed a budget that calls for a surplus. This means that the > Executive Director did not follow the budget and made unauthorized > expenditures. > > As long as this situation continues, the board cannot have a hands-off > attitude and cannot simply trust the ED to do the right thing. The > board needs to keep watching carefully as best it can. > > Sam Sloan More Sloan useless BS.
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