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Date: 15 Dec 2008 08:23:23
From: Sanny
Subject: The GetClub Legend
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> Sanny once asked what more could be done to improve the program. I
> think we can now declare that it has reached a pinnacle; there is
> nothing that can be done to improve on this game. Perhaps it should be
> left for posterity, and our descendants can pride themselves on how
> wonderful their programs are compared to what people had to live with
> in the primitve 21st century.
>
> Jerry Spinrad-
True now there is no scope of improvement. Last improvement that was
done was yesterday. Still if someone complains then the program is
corrected. But now Its not possible to improve it further.
I am happy to know that GetClub program now give good challenge to
even strong players.
And today Master Level found a Mate in 16 ... 20 which no other Chess
Engine could find. Even Taylor Kingston do not believe that the game
has Mate in 16 ... 20.
Nowadays even beginner Level is giving good Challenge to human
opponents.
Only player who is still unbeatable are those taking help from other
commercial programs. Now no Human can challenge the higher levels.
I am glad with GetClub Performance. And GetClub will be remembered as
a best Chess program developed.
And if the improvements continue It will take the crown of top
engines. But that still is too far to say.
Only Time will tell what happens next. GetClub will always be
remembered in the Chess World History.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 21 Dec 2008 00:02:16
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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> Yes, Help Bot does seem sensible. I've no idea what drives him to spend
> so much time over Sanny.
His passion for Chess drives him to GetClub.
He is one of the best player at GetClub. And all those who criticize
him are unable to beat his records. So he has prooved he is better
than most of the other players here.
He has helped in GetClub development a lot. His analysis and Chess
knowledge was required to develop the GetClub Chess engine.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 10:15:26
From: Alessandro J.
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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On 20 Dic, 09:05, The unknown warrior <some-secrtet-
[email protected] > wrote:
>
> I wonder if the medium of communication was not usenet, but verbal,
> whether Sanny would get as much response? For example, lets assume Sanny
> visited a pub or bar regularly. Would people speak to him as much, or
> ignore him? My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain is that such
> individuals as Sanny would tend to be ignored and would stand at the bar
> =A0 with nobody to talk to. They would not have 44% of the people in the
> pub talking to them every night for years.
My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain suggests that, infact,
our friend here would be very lucky indeed to be ignored and would
most likely suffer grievious bodily harm inside a month of first
visiting most of the Pubs I know of, and I ain't even been to the
seedier ones.
Also, I wasn't really surprised to read that you are British : are we
a more cynical people ( I'm a half-breed, but I've got cockney in me )
or is something else at play here ?
>
> I sometimes wonder who needs the most help - Sanny or those that respond
> time and time again.
Well, one of the most insistent is Help Bot, who seems a pretty savvy
charachter, as far as I can see. So much so, that I'm wondering wether
he isn't in on the whole scheme himself ... :oD
>
> > For those in the know, the " Adequacy.org " guys were rank beginners
> > compared to Sanny,
>
> Yes, they had to keep changing the subject matter to get the interest
> they generated. Sanny is able to get a huge interest with little change
> in the subject matter.
>
> Dave
Well, just underneath we see that , in reaction to this thread, he has
now ventured into new territory, adding a new twist to the plot, one
that , dare I say, is remotely hinting to possible homoerotic
developments albeit in a very implied form for the moment : a highly
intriguing turn of events indeed, but one that I fear even the newly
dubbed " Get Club Legend " ( for in my eyes Sanny already is a legend
in his own right ) will not be able to really pull off, though with
master trolls of this calibre, you never really know.
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Date: 21 Dec 2008 01:25:55
From: Dave
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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Alessandro J. wrote:
> On 20 Dic, 09:05, The unknown warrior <some-secrtet-
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the medium of communication was not usenet, but verbal,
>> whether Sanny would get as much response? For example, lets assume Sanny
>> visited a pub or bar regularly. Would people speak to him as much, or
>> ignore him? My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain is that such
>> individuals as Sanny would tend to be ignored and would stand at the bar
>> with nobody to talk to. They would not have 44% of the people in the
>> pub talking to them every night for years.
>
> My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain suggests that, infact,
> our friend here would be very lucky indeed to be ignored and would
> most likely suffer grievious bodily harm inside a month of first
> visiting most of the Pubs I know of, and I ain't even been to the
> seedier ones.
Yes, I can believe that too. I live in rural Essex and visit a pub where
there is a boring character. He tends to be ignored. But, in many pubs
in the east end of London, Sanny would no doubt suffer GBH.
> Also, I wasn't really surprised to read that you are British : are we
> a more cynical people ( I'm a half-breed, but I've got cockney in me )
> or is something else at play here ?
I'm not quite cockney, having been born in Walthamstow where it is not
possible to hear Bow bells. But not too far from you.
Lots of people think the British as a nation are too tollerent, but I
must admit, I'm not very tollerent of idiots like Sanny. I'm just
surprised the number of people who are.
>> I sometimes wonder who needs the most help - Sanny or those that respond
>> time and time again.
>
> Well, one of the most insistent is Help Bot, who seems a pretty savvy
> charachter, as far as I can see. So much so, that I'm wondering wether
> he isn't in on the whole scheme himself ... :o
Yes, Help Bot does seem sensible. I've no idea what drives him to spend
so much time over Sanny.
> Well, just underneath we see that , in reaction to this thread, he has
> now ventured into new territory, adding a new twist to the plot, one
> that , dare I say, is remotely hinting to possible homoerotic
> developments albeit in a very implied form for the moment : a highly
> intriguing turn of events indeed, but one that I fear even the newly
> dubbed " Get Club Legend " ( for in my eyes Sanny already is a legend
> in his own right ) will not be able to really pull off, though with
> master trolls of this calibre, you never really know.
Sanny is sick to me. Nothing less.
Dave
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 09:11:42
From: Sanny
Subject: Sanny in Pub.
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> I wonder if the medium of communication was not usenet, but verbal,
> whether Sanny would get as much response? For example, lets assume Sanny
> visited a pub or bar regularly. Would people speak to him as much, or
> ignore him? My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain is that such
> individuals as Sanny would tend to be ignored and would stand at the bar
> =A0 with nobody to talk to. They would not have 44% of the people in the
> pub talking to them every night for years.
Well on this newsgroup people only read what I say. But when in public
people do not listen what I think, But they only go on how I look. So
they will only respond to my body language.
They are interested in what I am wearing.
How I look.
And many XXXXXXX other things.
They never know what is GetClub and even do not know my name So
normally 99% will ignore as we are stranger.
I was once in a pub I was offered free meals from a (stranger) person.
He said to me "I want to be your friend" He gave me lots of ts. and
then he sang a song to me. I asked him why are you giving so many
things to me. He said. I want to be your friend and I want to share
some time with you.
He gave me a few ts. Then sang a song for me. He just saw me for 5
minutes and started loving me so much. Then he asked me to give him an
autograph. I was surprised why a few people can love me so much when I
am a stranger to him.
By Gods grace I have always met good people and I like them as much as
they like me.
But on newsgroup only Chess players with interest on Chess learn about
the GetClub Program. And they enjoy playing chess at GetClub.
Daily 20 games are played at GetClub and people revisit GetClub to
play more games.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 18:44:01
From: MeaningWhat
Subject: Re: Sanny in Pub.
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Sanny schrieb:
>> I wonder if the medium of communication was not usenet, but verbal,
>> whether Sanny would get as much response? For example, lets assume Sanny
>> visited a pub or bar regularly. Would people speak to him as much, or
>> ignore him? My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain is that such
>> individuals as Sanny would tend to be ignored and would stand at the bar
>> with nobody to talk to. They would not have 44% of the people in the
>> pub talking to them every night for years.
>
> Well on this newsgroup people only read what I say. But when in public
> people do not listen what I think, But they only go on how I look. So
> they will only respond to my body language.
>
> They are interested in what I am wearing.
>
> How I look.
>
> And many XXXXXXX other things.
>
> They never know what is GetClub and even do not know my name So
> normally 99% will ignore as we are stranger.
>
> I was once in a pub I was offered free meals from a (stranger) person.
> He said to me "I want to be your friend" He gave me lots of ts. and
> then he sang a song to me. I asked him why are you giving so many
> things to me. He said. I want to be your friend and I want to share
> some time with you.
>
> He gave me a few ts. Then sang a song for me. He just saw me for 5
> minutes and started loving me so much. Then he asked me to give him an
> autograph. I was surprised why a few people can love me so much when I
> am a stranger to him.
>
Boy, now this is getting strange and frightening. i occasionally read
this whole sanny-affair on the chess groups. but this is a completely
different thing..
ok, lets see where this is heading...
> By Gods grace I have always met good people and I like them as much as
> they like me.
>
> But on newsgroup only Chess players with interest on Chess learn about
> the GetClub Program. And they enjoy playing chess at GetClub.
>
> Daily 20 games are played at GetClub and people revisit GetClub to
> play more games.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
>
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 08:54:06
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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On Dec 20, 9:17=A0am, MeaningWhat <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sanny schrieb:
>
>
>
> >> Sanny once asked what more could be done to improve the program. I
> >> think we can now declare that it has reached a pinnacle; there is
> >> nothing that can be done to improve on this game. Perhaps it should be
> >> left for posterity, and our descendants can pride themselves on how
> >> wonderful their programs are compared to what people had to live with
> >> in the primitve 21st century.
>
> >> Jerry Spinrad-
>
> > True now there is no scope of improvement. Last improvement that was
> > done was yesterday. Still if someone complains then the program is
> > corrected. But now Its not possible to improve it further.
>
> > I am happy to know that GetClub program now give good challenge to
> > even strong players.
>
> > And today Master Level found a Mate in 16 ... 20 which no other Chess
> > Engine could find. Even Taylor Kingston do not believe that the game
> > has Mate in 16 ... 20.
>
> And? where is the mate? do you have proof? show us your mate, boy!
After analysing the moves for hours it was found that there was some
error in the GetClub Program that it resigned.
No signs of error were found as the So what went wrong at that time is
still a Mystry.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html- Hide quoted text -
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 05:17:05
From: MeaningWhat
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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Sanny schrieb:
>> Sanny once asked what more could be done to improve the program. I
>> think we can now declare that it has reached a pinnacle; there is
>> nothing that can be done to improve on this game. Perhaps it should be
>> left for posterity, and our descendants can pride themselves on how
>> wonderful their programs are compared to what people had to live with
>> in the primitve 21st century.
>>
>> Jerry Spinrad-
>
> True now there is no scope of improvement. Last improvement that was
> done was yesterday. Still if someone complains then the program is
> corrected. But now Its not possible to improve it further.
>
> I am happy to know that GetClub program now give good challenge to
> even strong players.
>
> And today Master Level found a Mate in 16 ... 20 which no other Chess
> Engine could find. Even Taylor Kingston do not believe that the game
> has Mate in 16 ... 20.
And? where is the mate? do you have proof? show us your mate, boy!
>
> Nowadays even beginner Level is giving good Challenge to human
> opponents.
>
> Only player who is still unbeatable are those taking help from other
> commercial programs. Now no Human can challenge the higher levels.
>
> I am glad with GetClub Performance. And GetClub will be remembered as
> a best Chess program developed.
>
> And if the improvements continue It will take the crown of top
> engines. But that still is too far to say.
>
> Only Time will tell what happens next. GetClub will always be
> remembered in the Chess World History.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
>
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Date: 17 Dec 2008 21:47:30
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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> Now i hope you'll debug you're program before
> you make any more of these silly claims,
> otherwise it makes no sense to play your
> program, doesnt it ?
One possible reasion for this error was removed. I hope now such
errors will not occur.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 17 Dec 2008 12:53:24
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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On Dec 15, 4:23=A0pm, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> > Sanny once asked what more could be done to improve the program. I
> > think we can now declare that it has reached a pinnacle; there is
> > nothing that can be done to improve on this game. Perhaps it should be
> > left for posterity, and our descendants can pride themselves on how
> > wonderful their programs are compared to what people had to live with
> > in the primitve 21st century.
>
> > Jerry Spinrad-
>
> True now there is no scope of improvement. Last improvement that was
> done was yesterday. Still if someone complains then the program is
> corrected. But now Its not possible to improve it further.
>
> I am happy to know that GetClub program now give good challenge to
> even strong players.
>
> And today Master Level found a Mate in 16 ... 20 which no other Chess
> Engine could find. Even Taylor Kingston do not believe that the game
> has Mate in 16 ... 20.
>
> Nowadays even beginner Level is giving good Challenge to human
> opponents.
>
> Only player who is still unbeatable are those taking help from other
> commercial programs. Now no Human can challenge the higher levels.
>
> I am glad with GetClub Performance. And GetClub will be remembered as
> a best Chess program developed.
>
> And if the improvements continue It will take the crown of top
> engines. But that still is too far to say.
>
> Only Time will tell what happens next. GetClub will always be
> remembered in the Chess World History.
=93The Chairman:
Joseph Vissarionovich Sanny has the floor.
(Comrade Sanny's appearance in the rostrum was greeted by the
voters with loud cheers lasting several minutes. The entire audience
in the Getclub Theatre rose to its feet to greet Comrade Sanny. There
were continuous cries of "Cheers for great Sanny!" "Long live great
Sanny, Hurrah!" "Cheers for our beloved Sanny!" )
Comrade Sanny :
Comrades!
Eight years have passed since creation of the Supreme Getclub.
This has been a period replete with events of a decisive nature. The
first four years were years of intense labour on the part of Getclub
people in carrying out the Third Five-Year Plan. The second four years
covered the events of the conflict against the Anti-Getclub
aggressors - and the events of the =93Everbrown Game=94. Undoubtedly, the
=93Everbrown Game=94 was the main event during the past period.
It would be wrong to think that the =93Everbrown Game=94 broke out
accidentally, or as a result of blunders committed by certain people
at Getclub, although blunders were certainly committed. As a matter of
fact, the =93Everbrown Game=94 broke out as the inevitable result of the
development of world economic and political forces on the basis of
present-day monopolistic capitalism=85=85=94
(A massive asteroid collides with earth)
Chairman: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Joseph Vissarionovich Sanny: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Getclub Master level: Knight Dee Seven!!
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Date: 17 Dec 2008 12:25:27
From: help bot
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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On Dec 17, 2:54=A0pm, jefk <[email protected] > wrote:
> anyway, i did some hours checking on my Quad,
> with Rybka and Deep Positional analysis with Aquarium;
What exactly is the difference between, say,
Aquarium's deep positional analysis and just a
plain old regular analysis by Rybka, running in
some other graphic user interface?
I did a bit of checking, and it turns out that in
order to get the funky "Monte Carlo analysis",
one would apparently have to buy a ChessBase
GUI.
But what if I want it all-- the deep positional
analysis function, blunder-checking, and Monte
Carlo? (Santa?)
-- help bot
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Date: 17 Dec 2008 21:45:31
From: jefk
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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help bot wrote:
> On Dec 17, 2:54 pm, jefk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>What exactly is the difference between, say,
> Aquarium's deep positional analysis and just a
> plain old regular analysis by Rybka,
a smaller branching factor, i.e. the line is continued after say 15 ply deep
analysis, then one (half)move/ply forward is made, than againg about
15 ply (or a certain amount of time, default 10 sec) etc.
In such a way you can reach much deeper when you analyse
the position for a long time, say several hours.\
> running in some other graphic user interface?
>
its comparable with the correspondence analysis under the Chessbase/
Fritz GUI; although its my impression that with Aquarium the sorting
process -of the resulting moves- is done a bit better ,when the search
is completed/terminated (havent looked into it in detail though, im
not a software tester but just a user, only interested in results,
whether with Aquarium or with Chessbase, doesnt matter
> I did a bit of checking, and it turns out that in
> order to get the funky "Monte Carlo analysis",
> one would apparently have to buy a ChessBase
>
yep, but such Monte Carlo analysis imho only pays off with a fast comp,
long analysis time, and an endgame position (or maybe middlegame/endgame
transition); anyway you sometimes can get interesting results about
certain moves/planning which are not immediately suggested with
'normal' (or even deep positional) analysis.
jef
PS above mentioned deep positional analysis of course
isnt a full mate search, but there are some programs which
can do that (problem solvers) problem is they
take an awful long time if they would need to find
a (legal/valid) mate in 16-20; for the 'sanny-position i'm 99,99999999
% sure they wont find such a mate (coz after queens exchange
there's simply no force mate in such a position, clear for anyone \
having some practical (&otb) experience in (computer)chess).
> GUI.
>
> But what if I want it all-- the deep positional
> analysis function, blunder-checking, and Monte
> Carlo? (Santa?)
>
>
> -- help bot
>
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Date: 17 Dec 2008 11:54:25
From: jefk
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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On 15 dec, 17:23, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> And today Master Level found a Mate in 16 ... 20 which no other Chess
> Engine could find.
> I am glad with GetClub Performance. And GetClub will be remembered as
> a best Chess program developed.
well Sanny although from the other responses i wonder whether it
makes any difference to give you more feedback, one more little
reply, mostly out of annoyance about your continued mate in
16..20 claim; it looks like you're becoming somewhat delusional,
after all these months of chess programming; Sanny, you need
a beta tester, and a compagnon to look at your code, bugs, etc.
Maybe indeed it's a good idea to start from scratch again,
but you obviously not listening to such advise.
Now about you're claim of the mate in 16-20 in
that silly 4 move game; first of all, if a program makes a
move like 3.. g5 it obviously has little positional understanding;
yes, it may be intended as kings attack against white,
but white can simply castle queensside, and black is worse.
Then in respect of making a random move after it 'sees'
mate in x, this obviously is a (giant) bug, like another guy
replied it still should try to delay the mate as long as possible.
And.. if your program has such bug(s), how can you
believe it 'saw' mate in 16-20 correctly ?
anyway, i did some hours checking on my Quad,
with Rybka and Deep Positional analysis with Aquarium;
here's one of the best lines, i.e. defenses for black after:
1.Nc3 d5 2.d4 f6?! 3. e3 g5? 4.Bd3:
4.. Be6 and then: 5. h4 g4 6.e4 dxe4 7.Nxe4 Bf7
8.Qxg4 Qd7 9.Qxd7 Nxd7 (queens are exchanged,
and both sides are going to castle long)
10.Bf4 0-0-0 11.0-0-0 e6 12.g4 Ne7 13. Nf3 h6
14. Rhg1 a6 15.a3 Nc6 16. Kb1 Be7 17.Be3 Kb8
18.Nc3 Nb6 19.Rc1 Bf8 20.Rce1 Bd6 21. Ne4 Be7
22.Nc3 Bd6 23. Ne4 Be7 24. Ng3 Bd6 25. g5 hxg5
26. hxg5 (and then fxg5) +=, score +1.17 for white
according to Rybka but for a human the position
looks rather equal (in material).
Mate in 16-20 ? Ridiculous !! (& impossible)
Now i hope you'll debug you're program before
you make any more of these silly claims,
otherwise it makes no sense to play your
program, doesnt it ?
regards,
jef
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Date: 16 Dec 2008 09:13:14
From: Alessandro J.
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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On 15 Dic, 18:59, Dave <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
> > Only Time will tell what happens next. GetClub will always be
> > remembered in the Chess World History.
>
> > Bye
> > Sanny
>
> I think you should go down in internet history, as the person who can
> generate so much interest from so little substance. It never amazes me
> how people keep critising you and your program, but still keep playing
> it, when there are better engines around for free. (Toga for example).
>
> I've never personally played your engine. I see the web page once, and
> that was enough to put me off. But you sure do generate a lot of interest.
Yes , a fascinating study into human nature, the amount of replies
really beg belief, but I suppose Sanny is just too easy and tempting a
target to vent off frustration or to indulge in a bit of easy
patronizing.
I await with trepidation for the day when Sanny finally comes out guns
blazing revealing to all the hidden agenda behind his frighteningly
consistent spamming, though I suspect he is as curious as I am to see
for how long people will continue to reply to his delirious posts,
lately they've been getting more crazy-ass than usual yet people still
keep pounding away countering his nonsense.
I mean, come on guys, mate in 16 on the 4th move, he's GOTTA be
kidding now, right ?
And if you really think he's serious, haven't you really got anything
better to do than humour someone who obviously needs a lot more help
than you will ever be able to give him in an internet forum ?
For those in the know, the " Adequacy.org " guys were rank beginners
compared to Sanny, who is truely venturing into art form, heck, he
doesn't even need heavy moderating to do what he does ...
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 08:05:55
From: The unknown warrior
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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Alessandro J. wrote:
> On 15 Dic, 18:59, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sanny wrote:
>>> Only Time will tell what happens next. GetClub will always be
>>> remembered in the Chess World History.
>>> Bye
>>> Sanny
>> I think you should go down in internet history, as the person who can
>> generate so much interest from so little substance. It never amazes me
>> how people keep critising you and your program, but still keep playing
>> it, when there are better engines around for free. (Toga for example).
>>
>> I've never personally played your engine. I see the web page once, and
>> that was enough to put me off. But you sure do generate a lot of interest.
>
>
> Yes , a fascinating study into human nature, the amount of replies
> really beg belief,
Yes agreed. I'm not a social scientist, but I suspect one could do a
Ph.D. by studing the behavior of such individuals as Sanny, and the
behaviour of the respondants.
I just selected 50 random posts on rec.games.chess.computer and found
that 22, or 44% relate to Sanny and Getclub. I find the fact that this
goes on for so long quite amazing.
I recall once someone on the Solaris newsgroups asking questions about
Solaris, which at first seemed sensible, but then it appeared he was
just a total idiot. He just got ignored and went away. Perhaps Unix
admins have a different attitude to life than chess players.
> but I suppose Sanny is just too easy and tempting a
> target to vent off frustration or to indulge in a bit of easy
> patronizing.
Yes, I can see that, and I understand why people might do it for a few
weeks. But I would expect people to get bored of this after a while, and
move on to other things. But clearly my understanding of human behaviour
is not very good.
> I await with trepidation for the day when Sanny finally comes out guns
> blazing revealing to all the hidden agenda behind his frighteningly
> consistent spamming, though I suspect he is as curious as I am to see
> for how long people will continue to reply to his delirious posts,
> lately they've been getting more crazy-ass than usual yet people still
> keep pounding away countering his nonsense.
I wonder if the medium of communication was not usenet, but verbal,
whether Sanny would get as much response? For example, lets assume Sanny
visited a pub or bar regularly. Would people speak to him as much, or
ignore him? My experience of drinking in pubs in Britain is that such
individuals as Sanny would tend to be ignored and would stand at the bar
with nobody to talk to. They would not have 44% of the people in the
pub talking to them every night for years.
I sometimes wonder who needs the most help - Sanny or those that respond
time and time again.
> For those in the know, the " Adequacy.org " guys were rank beginners
> compared to Sanny,
Yes, they had to keep changing the subject matter to get the interest
they generated. Sanny is able to get a huge interest with little change
in the subject matter.
Dave
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Date: 15 Dec 2008 17:59:53
From: Dave
Subject: Re: The GetClub Legend
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Sanny wrote:
> Only Time will tell what happens next. GetClub will always be
> remembered in the Chess World History.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
I think you should go down in internet history, as the person who can
generate so much interest from so little substance. It never amazes me
how people keep critising you and your program, but still keep playing
it, when there are better engines around for free. (Toga for example).
I've never personally played your engine. I see the web page once, and
that was enough to put me off. But you sure do generate a lot of interest.
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