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Date: 13 Sep 2008 15:51:43
From: samsloan
Subject: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
perhaps too old to have children.
Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
illegitimate child?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Sep 2008 05:45:25
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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THE POOR SAP
<You have no idea just how /desperate/ Mr. Parr
really is to "debate" the subject of Russian history
with somebody-- anybody. Please, do the poor
sap a favor and argue with him about some famous
Russians. (And remember to let him win, every now
and then.) Do it for charity. > -- help bot
Greg Kennedy is a mouth in search of an ear.
Any ear.
The man has been hissing with envy and malice
ever since he ever so innocently assumed that Italy,
Germany and Poland were countries for hundreds of years,
thereby showing a total ignorance of the development
of modern Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries.
One doubts that he will ever forgive this writer
for bringing up his vacancy so often. Nor should he
-- at least from the viewpoint of life that he has
chosen to adopt.
His most recent whopper is that Alekhine
was offed by the French Underground in 1946.
Yours, Larry Parr
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Date: 27 Sep 2008 09:14:58
From: LiamToo
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 27, 10:49 am, [email protected] wrote:
> The Sorbonne is in Paris, France.
I know that there is Pantheon-Sorbonne in Paris, then there is the
HarvardSorbone. I thought there could have been a Sorbonne in
Russia.
> > around the time that he married his third wife, Nadezda
> > Vasiliev. However, he never attempted to practise the profession. Does
> > anyone know that he really earned a doctorate in Law?
>
> The Oxford Companion says he "commence[d] law studies at the
> Sorbonne. His thesis was on the penal system in China, but he
> completed only the first two of four stages required. Although, like
> Zukertort, he did not become a doctor, he was able to pass himself
> unchallenged as such."
>
> Bernard Cafferty, in "World Chess Champions" (Pergamon, 1981), says
> "a recent search in the records of that famous institute of higher
> learning has failed to reveal his name amongst the alumni. It seems he
> began the course of study, but did not complete it."
>
> So it seems rather certain that Alekhine did not earn an official
> doctorate of law.
Nathan Divinsky's "The Chess Encyclopedia", 1990 page 4, says:
"Having done some some pre-law in Russia, Alekhine now enrolled at the
Sorbonne and said he earned a doctorate in law."
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Date: 27 Sep 2008 08:49:56
From:
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 27, 11:24=A0am, LiamToo <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 26, 7:29 pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 1:20 pm, none <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > " One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
> > > help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
> > > one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
> > > =A0until it expires. "
> > > Helpbot, you are now Larry's woman.
>
> > =A0 Only a demented imbecile such as Mr. Parr
> > could find some way in his puny little mind to
> > twist Mr. Kingston's follies into a discussion
> > of /Russian history/!
>
> Alekhine said that he earned his doctorate in Law at the Sorbonne in
> Russia,
The Sorbonne is in Paris, France.
> around the time that he married his third wife, Nadezda
> Vasiliev. However, he never attempted to practise the profession. Does
> anyone know that he really earned a doctorate in Law?
The Oxford Companion says he "commence[d] law studies at the
Sorbonne. His thesis was on the penal system in China, but he
completed only the first two of four stages required. Although, like
Zukertort, he did not become a doctor, he was able to pass himself
unchallenged as such."
Bernard Cafferty, in "World Chess Champions" (Pergamon, 1981), says
"a recent search in the records of that famous institute of higher
learning has failed to reveal his name amongst the alumni. It seems he
began the course of study, but did not complete it."
So it seems rather certain that Alekhine did not earn an official
doctorate of law.
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Date: 27 Sep 2008 08:24:33
From: LiamToo
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 26, 7:29 pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 26, 1:20 pm, none <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > " One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
> > help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
> > one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
> > until it expires. "
> > Helpbot, you are now Larry's woman.
>
> Only a demented imbecile such as Mr. Parr
> could find some way in his puny little mind to
> twist Mr. Kingston's follies into a discussion
> of /Russian history/!
Alekhine said that he earned his doctorate in Law at the Sorbonne in
Russia, around the time that he married his third wife, Nadezda
Vasiliev. However, he never attempted to practise the profession. Does
anyone know that he really earned a doctorate in Law?
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Date: 27 Sep 2008 07:06:50
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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OUR GHERKIN
<Pompous ass. > -- Juergen to Parr
Juergen our jerkin' gherkin is an unpompous ass.
Not nearly as much fun and more boil-ridden than
being a pompous one.
Yours, Larry Parr
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Date: 27 Sep 2008 02:35:16
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 27, 3:17=A0am, J=FCrgen R. <[email protected] > wrote:
--Snip--
You have no idea just how /desperate/ Mr. Parr
really is to "debate" the subject of Russian history
with somebody-- anybody. Please, do the poor
sap a favor and argue with him about some
famous Russians. (And remember to let him
win, every now and then.) Do it for charity.
-- help bot
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 17:29:00
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 26, 1:20=A0pm, none <[email protected] > wrote:
> " One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
> help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
> one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
> =A0until it expires. "
> Helpbot, you are now Larry's woman.
Only a demented imbecile such as Mr. Parr
could find some way in his puny little mind to
twist Mr. Kingston's follies into a discussion
of /Russian history/!
As The Great Pedant has noted, Mr. Wall is
not a very reliable source of information, but
it is the most rudimentary logic that even his
wildest stories /must have a source/. As we
have seen, Mr. Kingston has oodles of such
sources, but is unable to locate anything
without considerable aid (and sometimes,
not even then). Where The Pedant shines,
is in locating multiple sources and in then
separating the flotsam from the jetsam, as
we saw with his articles regarding Mr.
Evans' more recent rants.
As for myself and Mr. Parr, let us just say
that my relationship toward him is akin to that
of Mr. Capablanca's to the poor sap to whom
he spoke these famous words, "you are my
meat!", meaning that beating up on him put
bread on the table. Indeed, without nitwits
like nearly-IMnes, Mr. Parr and Sanny, I would
very likely be unemployed.
-- help bot
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 16:09:49
From:
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 26, 12:55=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> A GENUINE SURPRISE
>
> =A0<Wall is not to be relied upon for historical accuracy...Perhaps you
> should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
> =A0has one.> -- Taylor Kingston, who recognizes only Edward Winter as
> his Supreme Authority.
Ah, no, Larry. Please don't presume to comment on what or whom I may
or may not regard as any supreme authority.
>The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an
> illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914 comes from Hooper
> and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition,
> page 7. Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first
> marriage in 1920 (to baroness Sewerin) was to legitimize
> the 7-year-old daughter they had.> -- Bill Wall
>
> >By George, you're right. Thank you.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0One is genuinely surprised that Taylor Kingston
> did not know about Alekhine's illegitimate child.
A fact I have undoubtedly read in the past (I am sure of this,
because I have read the OC entry itself), but which did not stick in
quick-recall memory. My apologies for not checking the OC before
making the post in question.
As for being skeptical about things Bill Wall has posted, I make no
apologies. His track record does not inspire confidence.
> =A0One
> would be shocked were Greg Kennedy to have known.
> That is the essential difference between the historical
> intellects of the two men.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Now, then, take the name of Alekhine's amour, the
> Baroness Sewerin. =A0The spelling is likely a
> Germanicization of the Russian Severin, though it is
> possible the Baroness had a Germanic spelling to her
> name, which was not unknown in the Russia of that time.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0The point is that Kingston would certainly
> recognize the above possibilities. =A0Our Greg is all
> innocence, though as always, it is a snarling and
> spiteful rather than childlike and charming lacuna.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
> help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
> one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
> =A0until it expires.
>
> Yours, Larry Parr
>
>
>
> Taylor Kingston wrote:
> > On Sep 13, 6:51?pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
> > > Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
>
> > =A0 One can imagine virtually any assertion, and probably find a websit=
e
> > that claims it is true. Wall is not to be relied upon for historical
> > accuracy.
>
> > > Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
> > > married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
> > > perhaps too old to have children.
>
> > =A0 He fathered at least one legitimate child, Alex A. Alejchin, who
> > wrote the foreword to Skinner & Verhoeven's book on Alekhine.
>
> > > Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
> > > illegitimate child?
>
> > =A0 Perhaps you should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
> > has one.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 10:20:06
From: none
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 26, 12:55=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> A GENUINE SURPRISE
>
> =A0<Wall is not to be relied upon for historical accuracy...Perhaps you
> should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
> =A0has one.> -- Taylor Kingston, who recognizes only Edward Winter as
> his Supreme Authority.
>
> >The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an
>
> illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914 comes from Hooper
> and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition,
> page 7. Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first
> marriage in 1920 (to baroness Sewerin) was to legitimize
> the 7-year-old daughter they had.> -- Bill Wall
>
> >By George, you're right. Thank you.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0One is genuinely surprised that Taylor Kingston
> did not know about Alekhine's illegitimate child. =A0One
> would be shocked were Greg Kennedy to have known.
> That is the essential difference between the historical
> intellects of the two men.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Now, then, take the name of Alekhine's amour, the
> Baroness Sewerin. =A0The spelling is likely a
> Germanicization of the Russian Severin, though it is
> possible the Baroness had a Germanic spelling to her
> name, which was not unknown in the Russia of that time.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0The point is that Kingston would certainly
> recognize the above possibilities. =A0Our Greg is all
> innocence, though as always, it is a snarling and
> spiteful rather than childlike and charming lacuna.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
> help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
> one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
> =A0until it expires.
>
> Yours, Larry Parr
>
>
>
> Taylor Kingston wrote:
> > On Sep 13, 6:51?pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
> > > Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
>
> > =A0 One can imagine virtually any assertion, and probably find a websit=
e
> > that claims it is true. Wall is not to be relied upon for historical
> > accuracy.
>
> > > Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
> > > married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
> > > perhaps too old to have children.
>
> > =A0 He fathered at least one legitimate child, Alex A. Alejchin, who
> > wrote the foreword to Skinner & Verhoeven's book on Alekhine.
>
> > > Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
> > > illegitimate child?
>
> > =A0 Perhaps you should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
> > has one.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
" One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
until it expires. "
Helpbot, you are now Larry's woman.
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 09:55:09
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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A GENUINE SURPRISE
<Wall is not to be relied upon for historical accuracy...Perhaps you
should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
has one. > -- Taylor Kingston, who recognizes only Edward Winter as
his Supreme Authority.
>The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an
illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914 comes from Hooper
and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition,
page 7. Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first
marriage in 1920 (to baroness Sewerin) was to legitimize
the 7-year-old daughter they had. > -- Bill Wall
>By George, you're right. Thank you.> -- Taylor Kingston
One is genuinely surprised that Taylor Kingston
did not know about Alekhine's illegitimate child. One
would be shocked were Greg Kennedy to have known.
That is the essential difference between the historical
intellects of the two men.
Now, then, take the name of Alekhine's amour, the
Baroness Sewerin. The spelling is likely a
Germanicization of the Russian Severin, though it is
possible the Baroness had a Germanic spelling to her
name, which was not unknown in the Russia of that time.
The point is that Kingston would certainly
recognize the above possibilities. Our Greg is all
innocence, though as always, it is a snarling and
spiteful rather than childlike and charming lacuna.
One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
until it expires.
Yours, Larry Parr
Taylor Kingston wrote:
> On Sep 13, 6:51?pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
> > Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
>
> One can imagine virtually any assertion, and probably find a website
> that claims it is true. Wall is not to be relied upon for historical
> accuracy.
>
> > Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
> > married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
> > perhaps too old to have children.
>
> He fathered at least one legitimate child, Alex A. Alejchin, who
> wrote the foreword to Skinner & Verhoeven's book on Alekhine.
>
> > Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
> > illegitimate child?
>
> Perhaps you should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
> has one.
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Date: 27 Sep 2008 09:17:51
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: AW: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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[email protected] wrote:
> A GENUINE SURPRISE
>
>
> <Wall is not to be relied upon for historical accuracy...Perhaps you
> should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
> has one.> -- Taylor Kingston, who recognizes only Edward Winter as
> his Supreme Authority.
>
>> The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an
> illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914 comes from Hooper
> and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition,
> page 7. Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first
> marriage in 1920 (to baroness Sewerin) was to legitimize
> the 7-year-old daughter they had.> -- Bill Wall
>
>> By George, you're right. Thank you.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> One is genuinely surprised that Taylor Kingston
> did not know about Alekhine's illegitimate child. One
> would be shocked were Greg Kennedy to have known.
> That is the essential difference between the historical
> intellects of the two men.
Three is undoubtedly flabbergasted to hear of great historical
intellects that are completely unaware of the number
of illegitimate children fathered by, let us say,
Napoleon.
>
> Now, then, take the name of Alekhine's amour, the
> Baroness Sewerin. The spelling is likely a
> Germanicization of the Russian Severin, though it is
> possible the Baroness had a Germanic spelling to her
> name, which was not unknown in the Russia of that time.
And - therefore? Oh great student of history.
>
> The point is that Kingston would certainly
> recognize the above possibilities.
Four is pleased to note that this feat does require
vast historical intellect.
> Our Greg is all
> innocence, though as always, it is a snarling and
> spiteful rather than childlike and charming lacuna.
Five needs to look up the meaning of lacuna, Six fears.
>
> One does not expect a hydrophobic rodent like
> help bot to know a nit about Russian history, but
> one does expect it to bite at every possible opportunity
> until it expires.
Seven needs to look up nit, Eight fears. Nine ascertains
a weird view of 'Russian History'. Ten has several
books on this subject and none mentions either
Alekhine's illegitimate children, nor the name Severin.
Eleven informs Twelve that there is no assurance that
Severin is a Russian name.
>
>
> Yours, Larry Parr
Pompous ass.
>
>
>
>
> Taylor Kingston wrote:
>> On Sep 13, 6:51?pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
>>> Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
>>
>> One can imagine virtually any assertion, and probably find a
>> website that claims it is true. Wall is not to be relied upon for
>> historical accuracy.
>>
>>> Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
>>> married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
>>> perhaps too old to have children.
>>
>> He fathered at least one legitimate child, Alex A. Alejchin, who
>> wrote the foreword to Skinner & Verhoeven's book on Alekhine.
>>
>>> Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
>>> illegitimate child?
>>
>> Perhaps you should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
>> has one.
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 01:58:25
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 25, 8:21=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in
> 1913 or 1914 comes
> from Hooper and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition, page
> 7.
> Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first marriage in 1920 (to
> baroness Sewerin)
> was to legitimize the 7-year-old daughter they had.
Why is it that some people always display the
exact same idiocies over time? Here, we see
that Mr. Kingston recklessly tosses out an insult,
then acts "surprised" when a source is given for
a factoid which could of course only have come
from some source or other, just as the story of
Morphy's shoes had to come from /somewhere/.
I am reminded of the fiasco which resulted
from another wild-and-woolly adventure with
our hero, Mr. Kingston; in this episode, the poor
chap found himself moved to pen a letter to the
editor of Chess Life magazine, endorsing some
nonsense or other. Later, Mr. Evans, feeling a
need for some sort of "support" for his prattle,
quoted Mr. Kingston. Unfortunately, by then
our hero had done some, ah, "thinking" on the
matter, which resulted in a change of whim.
Well, the story continued, but suffice it to say
this poor chap could not find his own way
home, without divine intervention... .
-- help bot
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 05:39:57
From:
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 25, 8:21=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sep 14, 8:32=A0pm, Old Haasie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 13, 8:49=A0pm, SBD <[email protected]> wrote:> On Sep 13, 6:09=A0=
pm, Old Haasie <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
> > > > The child's name was AlleyOop Alekhine and he became quite a
> > > > character.
>
> > > > Old Haasie
>
> > > Vaudeville is dead.
>
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > Oh? =A0I must be way behind the times square.
>
> > Old Haasie
>
> The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in
> 1913 or 1914 comes
> from Hooper and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition, page
> 7.
> Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first marriage in 1920 (to
> baroness Sewerin)
> was to legitimize the 7-year-old daughter they had.
>
> Bill Wall
By George, you're right. Thank you.
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Date: 25 Sep 2008 05:21:56
From:
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 14, 8:32=A0pm, Old Haasie <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 13, 8:49=A0pm, SBD <[email protected]> wrote:> On Sep 13, 6:09=A0pm=
, Old Haasie <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D
> > > The child's name was AlleyOop Alekhine and he became quite a
> > > character.
>
> > > Old Haasie
>
> > Vaudeville is dead.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Oh? =A0I must be way behind the times square.
>
> Old Haasie
The source that Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in
1913 or 1914 comes
from Hooper and Whyld, Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess, 2nd edition, page
7.
Hooper and Whyld state that Alekhin'es first marriage in 1920 (to
baroness Sewerin)
was to legitimize the 7-year-old daughter they had.
Bill Wall
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 17:32:43
From: Old Haasie
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 13, 8:49=A0pm, SBD <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 13, 6:09=A0pm, Old Haasie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D
> > The child's name was AlleyOop Alekhine and he became quite a
> > character.
>
> > Old Haasie
>
> Vaudeville is dead.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
Oh? I must be way behind the times square.
Old Haasie
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Date: 13 Sep 2008 17:49:12
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 13, 6:09=A0pm, Old Haasie <[email protected] > wrote:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
> The child's name was AlleyOop Alekhine and he became quite a
> character.
>
> Old Haasie
Vaudeville is dead.
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Date: 13 Sep 2008 17:48:20
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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Bill "Found naked in several fields" Wall?
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Date: 13 Sep 2008 16:13:19
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 13, 6:51=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
> Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
One can imagine virtually any assertion, and probably find a website
that claims it is true. Wall is not to be relied upon for historical
accuracy.
> Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
> married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
> perhaps too old to have children.
He fathered at least one legitimate child, Alex A. Alejchin, who
wrote the foreword to Skinner & Verhoeven's book on Alekhine.
> Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
> illegitimate child?
Perhaps you should ask Wall for his source? I'll be surprised if he
has one.
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Date: 13 Sep 2008 16:09:06
From: Old Haasie
Subject: Re: Source for Alekhine's Illegitimate Child??
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On Sep 13, 6:51=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> Several websites including Bill Wall's state that World Champion
> Alexander Alekhine fathered an illegitimate child in 1913 or 1914.
>
> Does anybody know of a source for this? It seems that Alekhine was
> married four times to much older, wealthy women, women who were
> perhaps too old to have children.
>
> Does anybody know anything about this or the name and fate of the
> illegitimate child?
>
> Sam Sloan
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The child's name was AlleyOop Alekhine and he became quite a
character.
Old Haasie
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