Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

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Date: 27 Dec 2007 20:54:04
From: Anonymous
Subject: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

Don't you think Truong's lawyers will know that?

Date: 28 Dec 2007 16:40:25
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=redneck&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsamsloan.com

Date: 28 Dec 2007 06:42:55
From:
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

On Dec 27, 5:48=A0pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> > cus made what I consider a reasonable comment earlier to the effect
> > that evidence will be a lot easier to get via a criminal complaint,
> > where a court order will expose ISP logs and other records, including,
> > as I understand it, =A0those of the anonymizer services.
>
> Even the FBI can't stop the anonymous posts or trace them (unless the
> president were threatened).
>
> What can be done if you have a suspect is to check their side of the
> equation: their computer, their ISP, etc. because the message doesn't star=
t
> out anonymous.
>
> As for the FSS, Suddenlink isn't exactly a hotbed of chess users. =A0I sup=
sect
> we'll only turn up one name as a customer of theirs at all who plays chess=
.
>
> --
> Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guruhttp://www.cybersheet.com=
/library.html
> Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy
>
> Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-500=
0
>
> Don't rely on overexposed, mass-keted commercial seduction methods whic=
h
> no longer work.
>
> Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:http://www.dirtyscot=
tsdale.com/?p=3D1187
>
> Beware! =A0VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. =A0Six of the eight
> contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. =A0The pa=
id
> targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruin=
ed
> their prromised acting credit. =A0What else has Mystery lied about?

> Even the FBI can't stop the anonymous posts or trace them (unless the
> president were threatened).

So, Ray, the Vice President isn't worth the effort? I think you are a
little off here. The standards of evidence
are purely a function of the resources required. The more money you
spend, the better your evidence. If
what you say is true, then why aren't people in the middle east
spamming us with terroristic threats?

You certianly have pissed of the Speaker of the House....

cus Roberts

Date: 27 Dec 2007 14:17:36
From:
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

On Dec 27, 2:54=A0pm, Anonymous <[email protected] > wrote:
> Don't you think Truong's lawyers will know that?

Paul, the issue is what will a criminal and civil jury think about
this. The jury has to take time
off work, and listen to you talk about USCF employee's boobies, and
threaten to kill me, and
harass many more. Your lawyers knowledge of how easy is it to spoof
your IP address 2,500 times
over three states and two countries does not matter.

You know, it is not to late for you and Susan to flee the USA and live
in Europe, before you are charged.

cus Roberts

Date: 27 Dec 2007 13:15:48
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

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Subject: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?
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Don't you think Truong's lawyers will know that?

You have not succeeded.

Anybody can see that the above did not come from me.

The Real Sam Sloan

PS Who is Truong's lawyer, by the way?

Date: 27 Dec 2007 14:15:45
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:15:48 -0800 (PST), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:

>Subject: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

>Anybody can see that the above did not come from me.

>The Real Sam Sloan

Let me speculate as to what might be going on. I see three
interesting possibilities (as well as a fourth, less interesting one,
where various anonymice are just getting their own jollies).

(1) The FSS, having learned to use various anonymizers is back on an
ego trip

(2) The FSS, having learned to use various anonymizers, is trying to
demonstrate that the apparent origin of all the earlier fake posts is
suspect.

(3) One or more friends and/or supporters of the person whom the
Mottershead Report implicates are themselves trying to muddy the
waters by making a lot of fake posts via anonymizer(s), attempting to
demonstrate that the apparent origin of all the earlier fake posts is
suspect.

cus made what I consider a reasonable comment earlier to the effect
that evidence will be a lot easier to get via a criminal complaint,
where a court order will expose ISP logs and other records, including,
as I understand it, those of the anonymizer services.

What I'm wondering, in case (3) above, is whether various people have
exposed themselves to criminal liability (interfering with
evidence), since Judge Lafferty has already initiated a criminal
complaint in this matter.

Not being a lawyer, I await developments with great interest.

Date: 28 Dec 2007 00:51:34
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

In article <[email protected] >
Mike Murray <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> What I'm wondering, in case (3) above, is whether various people have
> exposed themselves to criminal liability (interfering with
> evidence), since Judge Lafferty has already initiated a criminal
> complaint in this matter.

That's ludicrous, bonehead. I've been trying to spin
the public and the judges my way all year, so any
spoofers aren't going to make any difference. Besides,
the guy/gal spoofing me isn't spoofing my ip address
anyway so his posts aren't proof of anything related
to the case. Now, if he starts spoofing me with posts
that include my ip address....

Sam Sloan

Date: 28 Dec 2007 13:37:24
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

On Dec 27, 6:51 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>
>
> Mike Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What I'm wondering, in case (3) above, is whether various people have
> > exposed themselves to criminal liability (interfering with
> > evidence), since Judge Lafferty has already initiated a criminal
> > complaint in this matter.
>
> That's ludicrous, bonehead. I've been trying to spin
> the public and the judges my way all year, so any
> spoofers aren't going to make any difference. Besides,
> the guy/gal spoofing me isn't spoofing my ip address
> anyway so his posts aren't proof of anything related
> to the case. Now, if he starts spoofing me with posts
> that include my ip address....
>
> Sam Sloan

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Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:51:34 +0100
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This header proves that I did not send this. The Fake Sam Sloan has
struck again.

The Real Sam Sloan

Date: 27 Dec 2007 18:48:40
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Sloan, do know how easy it is to spoof ip addresses?

> cus made what I consider a reasonable comment earlier to the effect
> that evidence will be a lot easier to get via a criminal complaint,
> where a court order will expose ISP logs and other records, including,
> as I understand it, those of the anonymizer services.

Even the FBI can't stop the anonymous posts or trace them (unless the
president were threatened).

What can be done if you have a suspect is to check their side of the
equation: their computer, their ISP, etc. because the message doesn't start
out anonymous.

As for the FSS, Suddenlink isn't exactly a hotbed of chess users. I supsect
we'll only turn up one name as a customer of theirs at all who plays chess.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-keted commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?