Showing love for Sloan, Parker, Lafferty et al

Main

Date: 21 Feb 2008 17:49:28
From: Borked Pseudo Mailed
Subject: Showing love for Sloan, Parker, Lafferty et al

Need to show your love for Sloan, Parker, Lafferty et al?
This webspite could be meant for you --
http://www.cotse.net/cgi-bin/mixnews.cgi
Write what you like. When you like. No law enforcement.
No lawsuits. No comeback. No hassles. No cost. No tracing.
No Mottersheading. No consequences. Strong recommendation.
Don't take my word for it. Google for the address. It is
not a honey. They've been doing it for years.
There's only one drawback, your message won't be archived.
But then someone's bound to repost it or reply quoting it.
Rufus

Date: 22 Feb 2008 06:20:54
From: LessPaul
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

On Feb 21, 8:02=A0pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> There's a reason people never make posts (i.e., highly illegal ones) that
> would prove how NOT anonymous those servers are.

Are you completely unaware of Mixmaster, PGP, SSL, SecureTunnel, and
VPNs, and other common protocols? Or are you feigning ignorance to
bolster an incorrect assertion?

Date: 22 Feb 2008 19:50:02
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

On Friday 22 February 2008 "LessPaul" <[email protected] > wrote:

>On Feb 21, 8:02=A0pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> No message BEGINS "anonymous"
>> There's a reason people never make posts (i.e., highly illegal ones) that
>> would prove how NOT anonymous those servers are.
>
>Are you completely unaware of Mixmaster, PGP, SSL, SecureTunnel, and
>VPNs, and other common protocols? Or are you feigning ignorance to
>bolster an incorrect assertion?

He's unaware of where his own ass is. :-)
The ignoramus "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" apparently believes
our anon stuff starts as some plaintext or detectable message our isp can
read. :-)

I am a regular contributor to an alt.binaries group to which I post as many
as 100 photos vids or audio clips a day (using a secure method). Nothing
too
illegal. :-)

I do my reading using SSL/SSH/SecureTunnel so there's no connection there.

Maybe on some days one or more of these attachments contain a short
message,
in text, steganographically encoded to the forwarder's public key.

For those who are techno-challenged, that means no one, not even the NSA,
can tell there is extra information combined in the file.

Most of these messages are destined for dev >null, just extra noise.

A descendant of the eelbash (yeah, I know he's an asshole, but this was a
useful feature) remailer automatically detects the stego-combined file,
extracts the mixmaster encoded message and forwards it to my entry
remailer. There follows a chain of 6-10 different remailers, including
at least 4 different countries and a day or more of delay.

Of course eelbash has no idea what is in the message, or who it came from,
or where it is going to.

The message never ever gets saved to my hard drive, and the stego file
is shredded once I see it in the binaries ng.

But no, the ignoramus "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" with a 0-19
legal history (soon to be 0-20) knows better. This is based upon the
strength of his documented abuse of nym.alias.net in the 1990s. :-))

Date: 22 Feb 2008 14:47:51
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

> Of course eelbash has no idea what is in the message, or who it came from,
> or where it is going to.

The outgoing ISP's mail traffic can be compared to the incoming USENET
server's message traffic, for starters.

I won't get into the other ways it can be traced, but the mere fact that no
one flaunts certain laws with their posts, suggests that they already know
they can be caught.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-keted commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?

Date: 22 Feb 2008 16:55:08
From: Anonymous
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

In article <[email protected] >
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> > Of course eelbash has no idea what is in the message, or who it came from,
> > or where it is going to.
>
> The outgoing ISP's mail traffic can be compared to the incoming USENET
> server's message traffic, for starters.
>
> I won't get into the other ways it can be traced,

Of course you won't, because when someone does their homework, there are none. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why network analysis falls apart, because you are not interesting in the truth. Your intial post was "No message BEGINS "anonymous"" which is an outright lie, so why would you care about the truth now?

> but the mere fact that no
> one flaunts certain laws with their posts, suggests that they already know
> they can be caught.

How many judges need to tell you that conjecture and facts are two different things?

Date: 22 Feb 2008 17:05:20
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

> Of course you won't, because when
>someone does their homework, there are
>none. I'm not going to waste my time
>explaining why network analysis falls
>apart, because you are not interesting in
>the truth.

Those who claim the NSA can't trace their messages never post anything that
would run afoul of the NSA.

Out of the goodness of their own hearts?

The government has encryption tools that aren't allowed to the ketplace.
They can unencrypt ANYTHING.

If they couldn't, USENET would be flooded with proof of that. It's not, is
it?

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-keted commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?

Date: 23 Feb 2008 00:50:26
From: Anonymous
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

In article <[email protected] >
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> > Of course you won't, because when
> >someone does their homework, there are
> >none. I'm not going to waste my time
> >explaining why network analysis falls
> >apart, because you are not interesting in
> >the truth.
>
> Those who claim the NSA can't trace their messages never post anything that
> would run afoul of the NSA.
>
> Out of the goodness of their own hearts?
>
> The government has encryption tools that aren't allowed to the ketplace.
> They can unencrypt ANYTHING.
>
> If they couldn't, USENET would be flooded with proof of that. It's not, is
> it?

I caught you in a lie and that is the best you can do?

You became the NSA when? No one need to fear you. You do not have the resources, financial or mental, needed to do the job.

Date: 22 Feb 2008 21:56:48
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

> You became the NSA when?

The point was the NSA can find messages, so they aren't truly anonymous.
Others could too.

>No one need to fear you. You do not have the resources, financial or
>mental, needed to do the job.

Said the idiot without the resources to sign its own name.

These anonymice don't think they're helping the other side's cause do they?

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-keted commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?

Date: 23 Feb 2008 10:04:20
From: Chess One
Subject: The Crux Of It All

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> These anonymice don't think they're helping the other side's cause do
> they?

Two unidentified items are in that sentence:

a) what cause? and
b) what other side?

The only cause seems to be those who want to develop chess, and the sides
are about those who would do it openly or not. Period.

The rest of this cause celebre is garbage - utter garbage from start to
finish, and about //other// issues, and those as follows:-

DO THE MISSION?

What every reader has to determine is if they too agree with the cause, and
then, which side they will take. The two sides of the issue need not even be
in conflict with each other - since I know people who genuinely feel that a
'small tent' USCF is the only sensible and viable means to operate it.

I have no conflict with that point of view!

OR STOP INTERFERING

I do have a conflict with that // maintenance // stance, if it inhibits
others from getting after chess // development //. And there's the rub of
the current conflagration at USCF - its not a new perspective, and in
reviewing correspondence with another poster here from 2004 at the time of
the move to Crossville, I wouldn't change a thing!

But what has been smoldering for longer than that has recently caught fire
because very active chess promoters have 'put the question' to USCF's
policies and behaviors: to wit: if it says so, then it needs to do so, or
get out of the way.

--

The issue for USA is that there truly needs to be a national non-profit to
promote chess.

The issue for USCF is that it behaves like a private-member's club with only
the guise of promoting chess, but actually just attending to maintenance
activities of existing members - utterly indistinguishable from a
private-member's club.

A LOSING BATTLE

USCF's maintenance activities to members are, by large agreement, those
which would demand the energies of about a dozen people in any efficient
private business - and incidentally most of it by tele-commuting, requiring
no HQ nor mortgage. This staffing level would not reduce current services to
existing members at all. But USCF employs [including contractors] twice as
many people as that - which it plainly cannot afford to do, and needs to
drop not just one staff position but half a dozen.

If it loses 'at least $100,000' this year [President Goichberg] then shall
we think it could really be 150k or 200k, plus last year's losses? That's
worth half a dozen staff salaries, just to stay afloat. And the real
question has been for the past 10 years why USCF just doesn't do that -
since if members don't suffer, and it floats the boat, then ...

A BORED BATTLE

...then, why is /any/ board necessary to run a 12 person office of
principally clerical activities in a maintenance relation to chess? If USCF
wanted to partner with chess promoters, by all means add an extra staff
person as liason with them to make 13, and 'do a Fide' with it, which is to
take a few percent or 10 to cover costs, or even cost-plus - but not too
much!

And since not just this board, but boards for the past dozen years have
failed to do anything for chess which increases any perceivable quality of
chess for players, or quantity of players beyond the natural population
growth of the 50,000 Fischer 'surge' 1970-1972, what do they actually do?
Are we bored of these boards?

REAL WORLD, REAL PLANKS

If USCF seriously retrench, which seems an inevitable situation to confront
in the next 12 months, to a dozen or so folks, sell the building, and move
back all the way to where they came from, a little office down in Greenwich
Village, and settle down to the relatively simple tasks of administering to
the nuts and bolts activities of the maintenance in chess in the USA - then
there is utterly no need for a board to decide over 'policy', since there
are no policies!

Instead, a board can come into being made of real planks: to progress chess
in the USA, to American mainstream media, to US Education, and to its social
life. This board need have nothing other than a liason relationship with
SmallTent USCF [ChessHut!] and can actually be constituted on entirely
different - and entirely normal - lines.

For example, if you want big Media and you want big Education, admit
appropriate people from those sectors of life to the board. This group could
actually perform the tasks of assessing what is needed looking forward in
the C21st, and exciting or anticipating interest from others, as well as
cogently and openly operating pro-bono Caissa as a true non-profit aught.
That is how the real world works, and comparison with the mish-mash of
activities of the current board is simply to note how utterly hopeless and
compromised they are as a group to represent us, the chess public, in
forwarding chess.

PRINCIPIA, NON HOMINES

And thereby, by clarifying goals; distinguishing one thing from another,
especially maintenance from promotion, right-sizing staff levels, justifying
being non-profit, rather than whatever the current and more than somewhat
compromised relationships are; by, in short, describing the principals and
systems of how chess is to be maintained and promoted, then the cult of
personality is entirely done away with and chess is re-established on sound
forward-looking lines, not obscene and retrograde ones, ad homines, and in
all, given a chance to work and succeed!

Phil Innes
Feb 23rd 2008
Vermont

Date: 22 Feb 2008 22:30:11
From: Anonymous
Subject: Re: JCP

In article <[email protected] >
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
>
> > You became the NSA when?
>
> The point was the NSA can find messages, so they aren't truly anonymous.
> Others could too.
>
> >No one need to fear you. You do not have the resources, financial or
> >mental, needed to do the job.
>
> Said the idiot without the resources to sign its own name.

You get a bit testy when you are caught lying. You had no problem responding to an anonymous poster when you thought you had the upper hand. But now that you have been shown to be a pompous liar, you are suddenly concerned.

Interesting.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
> The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
> is unverified.

Date: 23 Feb 2008 05:25:03
From: Solo
Subject: Re: JCP

In article <[email protected] >
Anonymous <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>
> "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > You became the NSA when?
> >
> > The point was the NSA can find messages, so they aren't truly anonymous.
> > Others could too.
> >
> > >No one need to fear you. You do not have the resources, financial or
> > >mental, needed to do the job.
> >
> > Said the idiot without the resources to sign its own name.
>
> You get a bit testy when you are caught lying. You had no problem responding to an anonymous poster when you thought you had the upper hand. But now that you have been shown to be a pompous liar, you are suddenly concerned.
>
> Interesting.
>

Not.

Date: 21 Feb 2008 20:02:30
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: No message BEGINS "anonymous"

There's a reason people never make posts (i.e., highly illegal ones) that
would prove how NOT anonymous those servers are.

On another level, if one presumes that those making the posts want certain
other things to happen, they may not be helping those causes, as their posts
cannot directly influence anything but the noise level on USENET.

Such posts could also be shown as proof of further damages.

You're not dealing with Sloan here.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-keted commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?