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Date: 04 Mar 2008 16:55:35
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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For the record, here is my analysis. I have some degree of expertise in this area; I estimate my own skills to be roughly equal to those of Mottershead, and I estimate both of us to have skills well below those of Robert Jones and David Ulevitch, both of whom are well-known experts. I would also like to note that when I first posted this analysis, I invited those who think that Truong did not generate any of the fake posts to please weigh in with possible explanations I may have missed, rational analysis of my comments below, or any other reasoned discussion. It has been six weeks and nobody has attempted to refute my analysis. I repeat my request now; I try very hard to be fair to everyone, and would very much welcome anyone blowing holes in my reasoning. My analysis: I have based this analysis on the information found at the following URLs: http://rs235.rapidshare.com/files/62649719/mottershead.zip http://craic.com/forensics/uscf_usenet_analysis/USCF_Usenet_Abuse_Report_20071206.pdf http://chessusa.blogspot.com/2008/01/expert-opinion-mottershead-report.html After examining the above, I conclude: The mottershead.zip files says that when Truong moved to Lubbock, the author of some or all of the fake posts moved to Lubbock. When Truong visited Mexico City, the author of some or all of the fake posts visited Mexico City. The report from Robert Jones of Craic Computing concludes that the data he examined shows that some or all of the fake Usenet posts were sent from the IP address as USCF user "chesspromotion" (Truong), and that the IP addresses moved together as Mottershead described. The reports from David Ulevitch concludes that some or all of the fake posts were posted from the same physical locations that Truong was in at the time of the posts, and that the posts to the USCF forums by chesspromotion / Truong, were also made from the same physical locations. Here are all of the explanations that I can think of, some far more likely than others. My comments on each follow: Possible explanation #1: Truong generated those particular fakes. Possible explanation #2: Mottershead fabricated the data that his report was based upon. Possible explanation #3: Someone else fabricated the logs Mottershead relied upon. Possible explanation #4: Someone else had physical access to Truong's computer. Possible explanation #5: Someone controlling Truong's PC remotely. Possible explanation #6: IP address spoofing Possible explanation #7: Identity theft. Can anyone think of another possibility, no matter how remote? Here is my analysis of each possible explanation, in reverse order: Possible explanation #7: Identity theft -- someone else was logging on to the USCF forums, posting some or all of the fakes, going to Mexico, etc. Not a reasonable explanation. Too many people saw Truong in the cities mentioned, and he has never reported being the victim of such a comprehensive identity theft Possible explanation #6: IP address spoofing -- the IP addresses themselves are faked. This is not possible from the user's location. See the Ulevitch report for an explanation as ti why this is true. It *is* possible if the ISP itself is under control from someone who can change logs, etc., but that is not a reasonable explanation -- it would requite compromising multiple servers at multiple ISPs. Possible explanation #5: Someone controlling Truong's PC remotely Not a reasonable explanation. To produce the timing shown in the logs, this controlling would pretty much have to happen while Truong was at the keyboard, Also, the person doing the controlling would have had to take control of Truong's new computer (a PC running the Tablet PC version of Vista. Possible explanation #4: Someone else had physical access to Truong's computer. Not a reasonable explanation. This would require a wife, girlfriend or child was pretending to be Truong, and Truong not noticing a large number of bogus posts in his name. Also, Truong has never claimed that it was someone else in his house. Possible explanation #3: Someone fabricated the logs Mottershead relied upon. Not a reasonable explanation. This would require the USCF servers to have been taken over remotely, the USCF sysadmins to be incompetent, and no other crackers or botnet operators taking over and causing ill effects other than a few logs being changed. It would also require evading all malware scans since then. Possible explanation #2: Mottershead fabricated the data that his report was based upon. I cannot evaluate whether this is a reasonable explanation. Clearly, if the data that I and the two independent experts examined was a clever fake, we would all come to the same wrong conclusion. Is there any reason to believe that Mottershead might have motive as well as opportunity? Has anyone else examined the actual servers just in case such a fabrication was done through post editing? Or checked the timestamps and backups of the server data to see if the supposed fabrication missed a backup or two? I personally don't buy this as an explanation, yet I cannot say that it is impossible. Possible explanation #1: Truong generated those particular fakes. Unless someone can show me another possible explanation or convince me that one of the above possible explanation's holds water, I can only conclude that the evidence presented so far points to Truong generating the fakes analysed by Mottershead. Truong has repeatedly claimed to have evidence that he is withholding that proves his innocence. I cannot evaluate that claim without seeing that alleged evidence. Thus my final conclusion is still open to revision based on new evidence. -- Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ >
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Date: 04 Mar 2008 14:20:27
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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On 4, 10:55=A0am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote: > For the record, here is my analysis. =A0I have some degree > of expertise in this area; I estimate my own skills to > be roughly equal to those of Mottershead, and I estimate > both of us to have skills well below those of Robert > Jones and David Ulevitch, both of whom are well-known > experts. > > I would also like to note that when I first posted this > analysis, I invited those who think that Truong did > not generate any of the fake posts to please weigh in > with possible explanations I may have missed, rational > analysis of my comments below, or any other reasoned > discussion. It has been six weeks and nobody has > attempted to refute my analysis. =A0I repeat my request > now; I try very hard to be fair to everyone, and would > very much welcome anyone blowing holes in my reasoning. > > My analysis: > > I have based this analysis on the information found at > the following URLs: > > > Possible explanation #4: > Someone else had physical access to Truong's computer. > > Not a reasonable explanation. This would require a wife, girlfriend > or child was pretending to be Truong, and Truong not noticing a > large number of bogus posts in his name. =A0Also, Truong has never > claimed that it was someone else in his house. Actually, this explanation was floated once, in one of the odious anonymous postings. It was phrased strangely, as if Sloan knew that it was true and was choosing to ignore it. It would raise some interesting issues, but would not exonerate Truong completely. It makes me very uneasy to bring children into this discussion who are almost certainly blameless, so I think it should not be probed further unless it is brought up as an actual defence. I might be more inclined to consider this as an actual possibility if Paul himself did not already show dishonesty in the PhD claims, and show similar posting patterns in the Bob Bennett posts. Jerry Spinrad > > > -- > Guy Macon > <http://www.guymacon.com/>
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Date: 06 Mar 2008 20:31:15
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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Please note: ChessIntegrity signed his postings as "TMH". Everybody assumed at the time that he was board member Timothy M. Hanke. However, from the content of his postings it is now clear that ChessIntegrity was Paul Truong. ChessIntegrity last posted on June 8, 2004. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/message/12892 Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Mar 2008 19:59:40
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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On 4, 6:49 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > >Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote: > > >> Possible explanation #4: > >> Someone else had physical access to Truong's computer. > > >> Not a reasonable explanation. This would require a wife, girlfriend > >> or child was pretending to be Truong, and Truong not noticing a > >> large number of bogus posts in his name. Also, Truong has never > >> claimed that it was someone else in his house. > > >Actually, this explanation was floated once, in one of the odious > >anonymous postings. It was phrased strangely, as if Sloan knew that it > >was true and was choosing to ignore it. > > >It would raise some interesting issues, but would not exonerate Truong > >completely. It makes me very uneasy to bring children into this > >discussion who are almost certainly blameless, > >so I think it should not be probed further unless it is brought up as > >an actual defence. > > >I might be more inclined to consider this as an actual possibility if > >Paul himself did not already show dishonesty in the PhD claims, and > >show similar posting patterns in the Bob Bennett > >posts. > > I need some assistance here from those who frequent the USCF > forums. How long had Paul Trong been posting there before > all of this? If the starting date was around the time of > the first fake posts, that would be more believable than if > he started long before -- which would require a family member > inpersonating a USCF board member on the board member's PC > in a USCF forum for a long period of time without anyone > noticing and with no apparent motive, then to have him later > take the blame for something he didn't do. Paul Truong first posted to my FIDE-chess Yahoo Group as "Chessketing" on February 14, 2003: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/message/3751 This posting contained the now familiar grandiose claims of owning a $7 billion company before retiring to devote himself to chess. Starting from that date, Truong has posted 2119 times to my group. Bob Bennett, who we now know to be Paul Truong, started posting just before that as "bennettchess". His first posting was on February 12, 2003. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/message/3702 Susan Polgar posting from [email protected] also started at about the same time Her first posting was on January 23, 2003 . SusanPolgar first joined my group on Jan 15, 2003 12:09 pm . Bob Bennett joined on Feb 12, 2003 8:38 am Paul Truong joined on Feb 14, 2003 12:35 pm from [email protected] http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/message/3239 Prior to that, Truong posted briefly as "ChessIntegrity". His first posting was on January 21, 2003 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fide-chess/message/3217 Sam Sloan
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Date: 05 Mar 2008 18:42:55
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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On 5, 6:56 pm, Mike Murray <[email protected] > wrote: > In the old days (2003-4 ?), I think the FSS posted as the "Rev Calvin > Quoz" or something like that. He wasn't into impersonation as much as > outright bigotry and vulgarity. Then again, the Rev Calvin *could* > have been somebody else. I seem to recall that it was more like the Reverend Calvin Abu Hindu Qutz. The name Calvin is somewhat rare these days, and it reminded me of Calvin Blocker -- an IM I think, who played in Ohio. I watched him "dismember" Ben Finegold, back when the latter was still quite young. In another tourney, I observed Calvin Blocker himself getting "taken apart" by Michael Wilder, who seemed to be half asleep at the time. I could be mistaken, but I think the Reverend also had the title of doctor-- possibly a doctor of theology. I should have challenged him to a game-- then we would quickly know if he was or was not Calvin Blocker, depending on how much of a fight he put up before I would have eventually checkmated him. ; >D -- help bot
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Date: 05 Mar 2008 14:48:57
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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I do not know precise dates, but I believe that the fake Sam Sloan posts started around June of 2005. See http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/b3413ef1acb5481d?hl=en I believe that the ChessPromotion posts at the USCF Issues forum started MANY months later. There is a coincidence that does not involve the ChessPromotion posts: The earliest USCF Issues posts (that I can find) (posted by anyone) come from around June of 2005. Don't take this too seriously until someone checks it. I might have goofed. I am not sure that I understand the USCF software.
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Date: 05 Mar 2008 15:56:10
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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On Wed, 5 2008 14:48:57 -0800 (PST), Louis Blair <[email protected] > wrote: >I do not know precise dates, but I believe that the fake >Sam Sloan posts started around June of 2005. See >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/b3413ef1acb5481d?hl=en >I believe that the ChessPromotion posts at the USCF >Issues forum started MANY months later. >There is a coincidence that does not involve the >ChessPromotion posts: The earliest USCF Issues >posts (that I can find) (posted by anyone) come from >around June of 2005. Don't take this too seriously >until someone checks it. I might have goofed. I am >not sure that I understand the USCF software. In the old days (2003-4 ?), I think the FSS posted as the "Rev Calvin Quoz" or something like that. He wasn't into impersonation as much as outright bigotry and vulgarity. Then again, the Rev Calvin *could* have been somebody else.
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Date: 04 Mar 2008 23:49:25
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit [email protected] wrote: > >Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote: > >> Possible explanation #4: >> Someone else had physical access to Truong's computer. >> >> Not a reasonable explanation. This would require a wife, girlfriend >> or child was pretending to be Truong, and Truong not noticing a >> large number of bogus posts in his name. �Also, Truong has never >> claimed that it was someone else in his house. > >Actually, this explanation was floated once, in one of the odious >anonymous postings. It was phrased strangely, as if Sloan knew that it >was true and was choosing to ignore it. > >It would raise some interesting issues, but would not exonerate Truong >completely. It makes me very uneasy to bring children into this >discussion who are almost certainly blameless, >so I think it should not be probed further unless it is brought up as >an actual defence. > >I might be more inclined to consider this as an actual possibility if >Paul himself did not already show dishonesty in the PhD claims, and >show similar posting patterns in the Bob Bennett >posts. I need some assistance here from those who frequent the USCF forums. How long had Paul Trong been posting there before all of this? If the starting date was around the time of the first fake posts, that would be more believable than if he started long before -- which would require a family member inpersonating a USCF board member on the board member's PC in a USCF forum for a long period of time without anyone noticing and with no apparent motive, then to have him later take the blame for something he didn't do.
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Date: 04 Mar 2008 12:00:31
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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On 4, 11:55 am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote: > I would also like to note that when I first posted this > analysis, I invited those who think that Truong did > not generate any of the fake posts to please weigh in > with possible explanations I may have missed, rational > analysis of my comments below, or any other reasoned > discussion. It has been six weeks and nobody has > attempted to refute my analysis. I repeat my request > now; I try very hard to be fair to everyone, and would > very much welcome anyone blowing holes in my reasoning. Actually, it has already been pointed out here that evidence pointing to Paul Truong might just as well implicate his wife, Susan Polgar. Every "report" I have seen discussed here seems to merely /assume/ that PT -- and not his wife, SP -- posted from PT's computer. Where is the evidence which indisputably exonerates SP? This reminds me of the story about a man who went around complaining that the whole world stank; it turned out that he just had some mustard over his lip. Now, if SP and PT traveled everywhere together, then all the so-called evidence relating to his where- abouts implicates them both equally, along with anyone else they may have dragged along. One possibility is that both PT and SP made some of the FSS postings. -- help bot
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Date: 04 Mar 2008 11:40:56
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Revised analysis of Mottershead / Jones / Ulevitch reports
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On Tue, 04 2008 16:55:35 +0000, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote: >Unless someone can show me another possible explanation or convince >me that one of the above possible explanation's holds water, I can >only conclude that the evidence presented so far points to Truong >generating the fakes analysed by Mottershead. >Truong has repeatedly claimed to have evidence that he is withholding >that proves his innocence. I cannot evaluate that claim without >seeing that alleged evidence. Thus my final conclusion is still open >to revision based on new evidence. Your analysis and conclusion is very reasonable. Right-thinking people hold open the option of revising their opinions if presented with new evidence. The PT supporters seem to have abandoned direct attack on the Report. Instead of producing new evidence, their current strategy seems to be to (1) claim knowledge of important exculpatory evidence they have been forbidden to examine (2) make various ad hominem attacks against Mottershead himself, (3) create distraction by pointing out deficiencies in USCF management and operations (many of them true, but not relevant to the FSS problem), (4) continually complain that the Report was unauthorized or the impacts of dealing with it are too expensive. But they never quite cross the line into accusing Mottershead of fabricating the underlying data And they avoid being pushed into saying that the report, true or false, should be tossed because of problems with authorization. And they have no real answer when folks ask why PT's attorneys don't go after the "forbidden data".
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