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Date: 05 Aug 2008 15:15:54
From: Chess One
Subject: Re-Hire Hall?
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Insider chat is that there is a deal to propose another two year period to
Bill Hall, Executive Director USCF, at the forthcoming Dallas Delegates
meeting.
Hall has presided over 2 years of what I think are the worst financial
losses ever sustained by USCF. Similarly, there are 3 outstanding law-suits
against USCF.
Will delegates know these facts in advance? Will wild Bill's plan succeed in
promoting his namesake? You can be sure that this chess politics subject has
not been raised on USCF's forum - but Bill Hall's term is up. Bill Goichberg
will propose him for 2 more years is also an 'up' subject.
To re-hire Hall, who has ostensibly failed to reverse financial losses, and
moreover, to not even stem the flow of outbound cash now annually in 6
figure amounts would seem like an extraordinary decision - has anyone
noticed USCF advertising for alternate Ex Dirs?
If not, why not?
If not, then as I suggest above, the fix is already in.
Phil Innes
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Date: 08 Aug 2008 12:00:27
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 8, 8:34=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > > > **After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems t=
o
> > > > know
> > > > anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and
> > > > maybe
> > > > that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more
> > > > objective
> > > > or required selection process?
>
> > > Very true Phil. The USCF is a personality driven organization. Why no=
t
> > > let the CCA buy it and just move on?
>
> So I see that Bill Hall has been re-hired for a couple more years. I don'=
t
> see any performance factors /mentioned/ for bonuses etc- and even what
> pay-scale he is on. That is in itself a bit unusual for a non-profit, no?
> But perhaps that too is an official secret under the bye-laws of USCF.
>
> Phil Innes
If no performance review has been done, his contract extention could
be challenged. I think Bill is a nice guy. But the problem the USCF
still faces is there is very little command and control going on. It
appears it is run with as much professionalism as " Our Gang". We
just
need to cast Spanky,Alfalfa and Darla.
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Date: 08 Aug 2008 11:57:53
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 8, 8:34=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > > > **After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems t=
o
> > > > know
> > > > anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and
> > > > maybe
> > > > that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more
> > > > objective
> > > > or required selection process?
>
> > > Very true Phil. The USCF is a personality driven organization. Why no=
t
> > > let the CCA buy it and just move on?
>
> So I see that Bill Hall has been re-hired for a couple more years. I don'=
t
> see any performance factors /mentioned/ for bonuses etc- and even what
> pay-scale he is on. That is in itself a bit unusual for a non-profit, no?
> But perhaps that too is an official secret under the bye-laws of USCF.
>
> Phil Innes
If no performance review has been done, his contract extention could
be challenged. I think Bill is a nice guy. But the problem the USCF
still faces is there is very little command and control going on. It
appears it is run with as much professionalism as " Our Gang". We just
need to cast Spanky,Alphalfa and Darla.
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Date: 07 Aug 2008 08:30:35
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 7, 5:15=A0am, thumbody <[email protected] > wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
=2E
>
> > I think he is like a dog on a leash.
> Or a trained vagina! All of a sudden the Rob (which mitch) Mitchell that
> I know, the chap who excrutiatingly chews his sausage & egg sarnies in
> my ear downs his dyslexia pill, roger ramjet style, & craps forth in
> manner eloquent even managing to insert comment in the body of the post
> instead of his usual, right @ the end explurge - lol??
> Cum on, something decidedly fishy here chaps. Phil's erstwhile squire
> has requisitioned Rosencrantz & resolutely jousts with Dutch windmills.
> harhadehaha-har.. =A0
>
> t.
Why , Thank ye kindly, I think. LOL
> If a fox come into the yard all
>
>
>
> > he can do is bark. If the master chooses to act on the barking, he
> > may. But if you dont turn the dog loose to chase the fox you shouldn't
> > really beat him because the chicken get eaten. Now a bad master may
> > also sic the dog on someone out of visciousness. For that both the dog
> > and the master may be called to task.
>
> > He does have a responsibility beyond his scope of power to control,
> > IMO. But sometimes a person is called upon to make tough choices.
> > Courage and conviction might require one to demand the authority to
> > effect change or to tenure their resignation.
>
> > > **I am unsure if USCF's own bye-laws require advertising of expiring =
terms
> > > of office - or if that is some sort of Board or Delegate decision. I =
don't
> > > see any discussion about it anywhere, so ask a question to find out?
>
> > I dont know but I would assume it is within the scope of the executive
> > board to negotiate a contract renewal for an employee provided their
> > performance reviews were satisfactory.
>
> > > **After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems to =
know
> > > anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and may=
be
> > > that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more obj=
ective
> > > or required selection process?
>
> > Very true Phil. The USCF is a personality driven organization. Why not
> > let the CCA buy it and just move on?
>
> > > **Phil Innes
>
> > > =A0 You might just as well
> > > blame Sam Sloan for not turning things
> > > around using his single, useless vote. =A0Or
> > > blame SP/PT for not succeeding, using
> > > their combined two votes (which still were
> > > insufficient).
>
> > > =A0 Let's face it: if any one person is to
> > > blame for the financial woes of the USCF,
> > > logic dictates that it must be the head
> > > honcho, the big cheese, the numero uno
> > > enchilada, the big kahuna himself, Bill
> > > Goichberg.
>
> > > =A0 As even Mr. Mitchell seemed to grasp,
> > > targeting BG's underlings is not the way
> > > to restore balance to The Force; one
> > > needs to muster the courage to attack
> > > The Emperor head-on-- draw one's light
> > > saber and... oops. =A0I just remembered
> > > that he was in fact destroyed, not in
> > > some amazing display of sword-fighting
> > > skill, but by being picked up and thrown
> > > out like the garbage by Darth Vader. =A0Do
> > > we even have a Darth Vader in the USCF?
> > > I think not. =A0(We need to re-elect Sam
> > > Sloan, get him a black cape and train
> > > him in the ways of the Jedi.)
>
> > > =A0 -- help bot- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 08 Aug 2008 09:34:38
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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"Rob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > > **After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems to
> > > know
> > > anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and
> > > maybe
> > > that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more
> > > objective
> > > or required selection process?
>
> > Very true Phil. The USCF is a personality driven organization. Why not
> > let the CCA buy it and just move on?
So I see that Bill Hall has been re-hired for a couple more years. I don't
see any performance factors /mentioned/ for bonuses etc- and even what
pay-scale he is on. That is in itself a bit unusual for a non-profit, no?
But perhaps that too is an official secret under the bye-laws of USCF.
Phil Innes
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Date: 07 Aug 2008 20:15:55
From: thumbody
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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Rob wrote:
.
> I think he is like a dog on a leash.
Or a trained vagina! All of a sudden the Rob (which mitch) Mitchell that
I know, the chap who excrutiatingly chews his sausage & egg sarnies in
my ear downs his dyslexia pill, roger ramjet style, & craps forth in
manner eloquent even managing to insert comment in the body of the post
instead of his usual, right @ the end explurge - lol??
Cum on, something decidedly fishy here chaps. Phil's erstwhile squire
has requisitioned Rosencrantz & resolutely jousts with Dutch windmills.
harhadehaha-har..
t.
If a fox come into the yard all
> he can do is bark. If the master chooses to act on the barking, he
> may. But if you dont turn the dog loose to chase the fox you shouldn't
> really beat him because the chicken get eaten. Now a bad master may
> also sic the dog on someone out of visciousness. For that both the dog
> and the master may be called to task.
>
> He does have a responsibility beyond his scope of power to control,
> IMO. But sometimes a person is called upon to make tough choices.
> Courage and conviction might require one to demand the authority to
> effect change or to tenure their resignation.
>
> > **I am unsure if USCF's own bye-laws require advertising of expiring terms
> > of office - or if that is some sort of Board or Delegate decision. I don't
> > see any discussion about it anywhere, so ask a question to find out?
>
> I dont know but I would assume it is within the scope of the executive
> board to negotiate a contract renewal for an employee provided their
> performance reviews were satisfactory.
>
> > **After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems to know
> > anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and maybe
> > that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more objective
> > or required selection process?
>
> Very true Phil. The USCF is a personality driven organization. Why not
> let the CCA buy it and just move on?
>
> > **Phil Innes
> >
> > You might just as well
> > blame Sam Sloan for not turning things
> > around using his single, useless vote. Or
> > blame SP/PT for not succeeding, using
> > their combined two votes (which still were
> > insufficient).
> >
> > Let's face it: if any one person is to
> > blame for the financial woes of the USCF,
> > logic dictates that it must be the head
> > honcho, the big cheese, the numero uno
> > enchilada, the big kahuna himself, Bill
> > Goichberg.
> >
> > As even Mr. Mitchell seemed to grasp,
> > targeting BG's underlings is not the way
> > to restore balance to The Force; one
> > needs to muster the courage to attack
> > The Emperor head-on-- draw one's light
> > saber and... oops. I just remembered
> > that he was in fact destroyed, not in
> > some amazing display of sword-fighting
> > skill, but by being picked up and thrown
> > out like the garbage by Darth Vader. Do
> > we even have a Darth Vader in the USCF?
> > I think not. (We need to re-elect Sam
> > Sloan, get him a black cape and train
> > him in the ways of the Jedi.)
> >
> > -- help bot
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 12:02:04
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 6, 1:59=A0pm, SBD <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Aug 6, 9:27 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 7:20 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is i=
n a
> > > > position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> > > > permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF =
to
> > > > Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and ther=
e
> > > > would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
>
> > > The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
> > > not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty son-of-=
a-
> > > gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of thousands of
> > > dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall has been
> > > executive director.
>
> > > Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
> > > keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
> > > does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
> > > his job.
>
> > > What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
> > > employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
> > > managers do in the real world of business.
>
> > > I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
> > > finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.
>
> > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Sam,
> > Are you getting senile? You started your own thread and said exactly
> > the same thing. =A0 Quick, play me a game now. I think you may forget t=
o
> > move. lol
>
> A childish response Rob. Can't you do better?- Hide quoted text -
>
Sorry, you are right. I should avoid talking at the same level of
those I address.
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 11:59:40
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 6, 9:27 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Aug 6, 7:20 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> > > position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> > > permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> > > Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> > > would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
>
> > The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
> > not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty son-of-a-
> > gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of thousands of
> > dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall has been
> > executive director.
>
> > Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
> > keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
> > does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
> > his job.
>
> > What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
> > employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
> > managers do in the real world of business.
>
> > I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
> > finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Sam,
> Are you getting senile? You started your own thread and said exactly
> the same thing. Quick, play me a game now. I think you may forget to
> move. lol
A childish response Rob. Can't you do better?
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:27:30
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 6, 7:20=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> > position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> > permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> > Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> > would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
>
> The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
> not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty son-of-a-
> gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of thousands of
> dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall has been
> executive director.
>
> Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
> keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
> does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
> his job.
>
> What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
> employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
> managers do in the real world of business.
>
> I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
> finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.
>
> Sam Sloan
Sam,
Are you getting senile? You started your own thread and said exactly
the same thing. Quick, play me a game now. I think you may forget to
move. lol
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 05:20:47
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty son-of-a-
gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of thousands of
dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall has been
executive director.
Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
his job.
What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
managers do in the real world of business.
I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 05:05:29
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 6, 6:52=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "help bot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Insider chat is that there is a deal to propose another two year peri=
od
> > > to
> > > Bill Hall, Executive Director USCF, at the forthcoming Dallas Delegat=
es
> > > meeting.
>
> > > Hall has presided over 2 years of what I think are the worst financia=
l
> > > losses ever sustained by USCF. Similarly, there are 3 outstanding
> > > law-suits
> > > against USCF.
>
> =A0 Cause--effect implied?!?
>
> > Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> > position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> > permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> > Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> > would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
>
> =A0 From what I've read here in rgc, I think Mr.
> Mitchell shows a lot more insight about how
> thinks actually work inside the USCF than
> does Mr. IMnes.
>
> =A0 Sam Sloan is not the only one to have
> posted complaints here implicating BG as
> some sort of all-powerful dictator, who
> effectively /controls/ the organization,
> ruling it with a leaden fist. =A0So then, why
> blame Bill Hall?
> **I think I was very careful NOT to blame him. Especially if he is merely
> faithful to the President of the USCF who, by many accounts, rules the
> roost. But is being faithful quite enough? After all, his title is
> /Executive/ director, and he is the paid manager actually responsible for
> paid staff, and all that they do. Therefore he has a business responsibil=
ity
> independent of the Polticos on the Board. My Questions simply asks if (1)
> from his record - he is good enough? and (2) are others better prospects =
and
> will delegates actually be chosing amoung a range of candidates, or simpl=
y
> to renew the incumbent?
I think he is like a dog on a leash. If a fox come into the yard all
he can do is bark. If the master chooses to act on the barking, he
may. But if you dont turn the dog loose to chase the fox you shouldn't
really beat him because the chicken get eaten. Now a bad master may
also sic the dog on someone out of visciousness. For that both the dog
and the master may be called to task.
He does have a responsibility beyond his scope of power to control,
IMO. But sometimes a person is called upon to make tough choices.
Courage and conviction might require one to demand the authority to
effect change or to tenure their resignation.
> **I am unsure if USCF's own bye-laws require advertising of expiring term=
s
> of office - or if that is some sort of Board or Delegate decision. I don'=
t
> see any discussion about it anywhere, so ask a question to find out?
I dont know but I would assume it is within the scope of the executive
board to negotiate a contract renewal for an employee provided their
performance reviews were satisfactory.
> **After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems to know
> anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and maybe
> that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more objecti=
ve
> or required selection process?
Very true Phil. The USCF is a personality driven organization. Why not
let the CCA buy it and just move on?
> **Phil Innes
>
> =A0 You might just as well
> blame Sam Sloan for not turning things
> around using his single, useless vote. =A0Or
> blame SP/PT for not succeeding, using
> their combined two votes (which still were
> insufficient).
>
> =A0 Let's face it: if any one person is to
> blame for the financial woes of the USCF,
> logic dictates that it must be the head
> honcho, the big cheese, the numero uno
> enchilada, the big kahuna himself, Bill
> Goichberg.
>
> =A0 As even Mr. Mitchell seemed to grasp,
> targeting BG's underlings is not the way
> to restore balance to The Force; one
> needs to muster the courage to attack
> The Emperor head-on-- draw one's light
> saber and... oops. =A0I just remembered
> that he was in fact destroyed, not in
> some amazing display of sword-fighting
> skill, but by being picked up and thrown
> out like the garbage by Darth Vader. =A0Do
> we even have a Darth Vader in the USCF?
> I think not. =A0(We need to re-elect Sam
> Sloan, get him a black cape and train
> him in the ways of the Jedi.)
>
> =A0 -- help bot
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Date: 05 Aug 2008 16:21:22
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
|
On Aug 5, 5:32=A0pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> > Insider chat is that there is a deal to propose another two year period=
to
> > Bill Hall, Executive Director USCF, at the forthcoming Dallas Delegates
> > meeting.
>
> > Hall has presided over 2 years of what I think are the worst financial
> > losses ever sustained by USCF. Similarly, there are 3 outstanding law-s=
uits
> > against USCF.
Cause--effect implied?!?
> Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
From what I've read here in rgc, I think Mr.
Mitchell shows a lot more insight about how
thinks actually work inside the USCF than
does Mr. IMnes.
Sam Sloan is not the only one to have
posted complaints here implicating BG as
some sort of all-powerful dictator, who
effectively /controls/ the organization,
ruling it with a leaden fist. So then, why
blame Bill Hall? You might just as well
blame Sam Sloan for not turning things
around using his single, useless vote. Or
blame SP/PT for not succeeding, using
their combined two votes (which still were
insufficient).
Let's face it: if any one person is to
blame for the financial woes of the USCF,
logic dictates that it must be the head
honcho, the big cheese, the numero uno
enchilada, the big kahuna himself, Bill
Goichberg.
As even Mr. Mitchell seemed to grasp,
targeting BG's underlings is not the way
to restore balance to The Force; one
needs to muster the courage to attack
The Emperor head-on-- draw one's light
saber and... oops. I just remembered
that he was in fact destroyed, not in
some amazing display of sword-fighting
skill, but by being picked up and thrown
out like the garbage by Darth Vader. Do
we even have a Darth Vader in the USCF?
I think not. (We need to re-elect Sam
Sloan, get him a black cape and train
him in the ways of the Jedi.)
-- help bot
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:52:50
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
|
"help bot" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> > Insider chat is that there is a deal to propose another two year period
> > to
> > Bill Hall, Executive Director USCF, at the forthcoming Dallas Delegates
> > meeting.
>
> > Hall has presided over 2 years of what I think are the worst financial
> > losses ever sustained by USCF. Similarly, there are 3 outstanding
> > law-suits
> > against USCF.
Cause--effect implied?!?
> Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
From what I've read here in rgc, I think Mr.
Mitchell shows a lot more insight about how
thinks actually work inside the USCF than
does Mr. IMnes.
Sam Sloan is not the only one to have
posted complaints here implicating BG as
some sort of all-powerful dictator, who
effectively /controls/ the organization,
ruling it with a leaden fist. So then, why
blame Bill Hall?
**I think I was very careful NOT to blame him. Especially if he is merely
faithful to the President of the USCF who, by many accounts, rules the
roost. But is being faithful quite enough? After all, his title is
/Executive/ director, and he is the paid manager actually responsible for
paid staff, and all that they do. Therefore he has a business responsibility
independent of the Polticos on the Board. My Questions simply asks if (1)
from his record - he is good enough? and (2) are others better prospects and
will delegates actually be chosing amoung a range of candidates, or simply
to renew the incumbent?
**I am unsure if USCF's own bye-laws require advertising of expiring terms
of office - or if that is some sort of Board or Delegate decision. I don't
see any discussion about it anywhere, so ask a question to find out?
**After half a dozen entries in this thread already, no one seems to know
anything at all! They like or they don't like a personality - and maybe
that's the way USCF itself actually behaves, rather than any more objective
or required selection process?
**Phil Innes
You might just as well
blame Sam Sloan for not turning things
around using his single, useless vote. Or
blame SP/PT for not succeeding, using
their combined two votes (which still were
insufficient).
Let's face it: if any one person is to
blame for the financial woes of the USCF,
logic dictates that it must be the head
honcho, the big cheese, the numero uno
enchilada, the big kahuna himself, Bill
Goichberg.
As even Mr. Mitchell seemed to grasp,
targeting BG's underlings is not the way
to restore balance to The Force; one
needs to muster the courage to attack
The Emperor head-on-- draw one's light
saber and... oops. I just remembered
that he was in fact destroyed, not in
some amazing display of sword-fighting
skill, but by being picked up and thrown
out like the garbage by Darth Vader. Do
we even have a Darth Vader in the USCF?
I think not. (We need to re-elect Sam
Sloan, get him a black cape and train
him in the ways of the Jedi.)
-- help bot
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Date: 05 Aug 2008 14:49:45
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 5, 3:51 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> One twist on the recent event is the current hurricane! Can Texas residents
> not already on-site actually get there? The absence of Truong and Polgar
> will no doubt excite speculation to their motives, but a heads-up to airport
> conditions may provide sufficient explanation for subsequent blather about
> non-attendance. To wit; is it even possible to get there? PI
We know that you are in constant contact with Polgar and Truong.
You seem to have inside information. Are you telling us that they will
not be attending the delegate's meeting?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 05 Aug 2008 14:32:31
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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On Aug 5, 2:15=A0pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Insider chat is that there is a deal to propose another two year period t=
o
> Bill Hall, Executive Director USCF, at the forthcoming Dallas Delegates
> meeting.
>
> Hall has presided over 2 years of what I think are the worst financial
> losses ever sustained by USCF. Similarly, there are 3 outstanding law-sui=
ts
> against USCF.
>
> Will delegates know these facts in advance? Will wild Bill's plan succeed=
in
> promoting his namesake? You can be sure that this chess politics subject =
has
> not been raised on USCF's forum - but Bill Hall's term is up. Bill Goichb=
erg
> will propose him for 2 more years is also an 'up' subject.
>
> To re-hire Hall, who has ostensibly failed to reverse financial losses, a=
nd
> moreover, to not even stem the flow of outbound cash now annually in 6
> figure amounts would seem like an extraordinary decision - has anyone
> noticed USCF advertising for alternate Ex Dirs?
>
> If not, why not?
>
> If not, then as I suggest above, the fix is already in.
>
> Phil Innes
Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
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Date: 05 Aug 2008 16:51:21
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Re-Hire Hall?
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One twist on the recent event is the current hurricane! Can Texas residents
not already on-site actually get there? The absence of Truong and Polgar
will no doubt excite speculation to their motives, but a heads-up to airport
conditions may provide sufficient explanation for subsequent blather about
non-attendance. To wit; is it even possible to get there? PI
"Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Insider chat is that there is a deal to propose another two year period to
> Bill Hall, Executive Director USCF, at the forthcoming Dallas Delegates
> meeting.
>
> Hall has presided over 2 years of what I think are the worst financial
> losses ever sustained by USCF. Similarly, there are 3 outstanding
> law-suits against USCF.
>
> Will delegates know these facts in advance? Will wild Bill's plan succeed
> in promoting his namesake? You can be sure that this chess politics
> subject has not been raised on USCF's forum - but Bill Hall's term is up.
> Bill Goichberg will propose him for 2 more years is also an 'up' subject.
>
> To re-hire Hall, who has ostensibly failed to reverse financial losses,
> and moreover, to not even stem the flow of outbound cash now annually in 6
> figure amounts would seem like an extraordinary decision - has anyone
> noticed USCF advertising for alternate Ex Dirs?
>
> If not, why not?
>
> If not, then as I suggest above, the fix is already in.
>
> Phil Innes
>
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