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Date: 06 Sep 2008 01:49:27
From: John Salerno
Subject: Playing against the computer
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I've mostly been using Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition to play, and I'm
wondering if this is a good thing or not for a beginner. Does it somehow
hurt the learning process to play against a computer instead of a real
person?
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Date: 07 Sep 2008 02:54:11
From: Alessandro J.
Subject: Re: Playing against the computer
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On 6 Set, 07:49, John Salerno <[email protected] > wrote:
> I've mostly been using Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition to play, and I'm
> wondering if this is a good thing or not for a beginner. Does it somehow
> hurt the learning process to play against a computer instead of a real
> person?
Playing is always good, however, playing a program is usually not a
good idea, as they play their own brand of chess, which is quite
different from human chess: on full strength, it will beat you
mercilessly everytime without you having an inkling of what happened,
on lower levels, it will play generally good moves before committing a
blunder so horrible no 1200 rated player would even think of. I
stopped playing programs around 10 years ago, so I'm not up to date
with how well programs are doing with their handicapping levels, but a
better alternative is surely to sign up for an online chess club,
possibly one of the mainstream ( ICC, Playchess or FICS, which is also
free ) but any server will do, though keep in mind that in your
virtual games you might have to play people who " cheat ", by getting
help from a program ...
Alessandro
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Date: 07 Sep 2008 10:05:57
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: GetClub plays like rude, ignorant humans
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On Sep 7, 9:16 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
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> GetClub plays like ...
No comment.
Wlod
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Date: 07 Sep 2008 09:16:00
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub plays like humans.
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> Playing is always good, however, playing a program is usually not a
> good idea, as they play their own brand of chess, which is quite
> different from human chess: on full strength, it will beat you
> mercilessly everytime without you having an inkling of what happened,
> on lower levels, it will play generally good moves before committing a
> blunder so horrible no 1200 rated player would even think of. =A0I
> stopped playing programs around 10 years ago, so I'm not up to date
> with how well programs are doing with their handicapping levels, but a
> better alternative is surely to sign up for an online chess club,
> possibly one of the mainstream ( ICC, Playchess or FICS, which is also
> free ) but any server will do, though keep in mind that in your
> virtual games you might have to play people who " cheat ", by getting
> help from a program ...
>
> Alessandro
GetClub plays like Human.
You can play with Baby Level initially and if you win try Beginner
Level. Beginner gives good challenge to you and plays much like a
human opponent.
Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Easy Level plays like a Tournament Player. and if you are 2200+ then
Try higher Levels too.
Here is the average rating of each level at GetClub.
Baby: 2 sec/ move 1800+
Beginner: 15 sec / move: 2000+
Easy: 60 sec / move 2200+
Normal: 4 min / move: 2400+
Each level plays like human being. And take less time in simple
positions and think longer in complex positions.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 07 Sep 2008 13:34:51
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: GetClub plays like humans.
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Sanny wrote:
> GetClub plays like Human.
Simply impossible. This is a pure marketing line.
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Date: 06 Sep 2008 15:22:58
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Playing against the computer
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On Sep 5, 10:49 pm, John Salerno <[email protected] > wrote:
> I've mostly been using Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition to play, and I'm
> wondering if this is a good thing or not for a beginner. Does it somehow
> hurt the learning process to play against a computer instead of a real
> person?
Playing against computer should help you (chess wise).
The best is to play both against computers
and against humans (chess wise). It's good
play both the slow games and the correspondence
games (e.g. email games--one ply per day).
Fast games are also ok granted that you play
enough of slow games too.
Enjoy,
Wlod
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Date: 06 Sep 2008 21:18:39
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: Playing against the computer
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Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) wrote:
> The best is to play both against computers
> and against humans (chess wise). It's good
> play both the slow games and the correspondence
> games (e.g. email games--one ply per day).
Yeah, I play games that are at a slow pace so I can take my time and
think things through. I've noticed that once I started playing opponents
in Chessmaster that have a rating over 1100, they take some time to make
decisions too. Not sure if this is by design for the effect, because I
doubt it takes the PC any longer to think, unless it's using a deeper
database and a more complicated algorithm, etc.
> Fast games are also ok granted that you play
> enough of slow games too.
I don't go in for speed chess, at least not yet. Playing a game in 5
minutes would do absolutely nothing to help me learn.
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