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Date: 30 Sep 2007 17:28:46
From: Tantale
Subject: Photos of the 15 FIDE World Chess Champions
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JMR
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 15:59:23
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Photos of the 15 FIDE World Chess Champions
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On Oct 2, 4:43 pm, David Richerby <[email protected] >
wrote:
> Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Oct 2, 12:29 am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Sep 30, 4:28 pm, "Tantale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Matous/base.htm
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> >> I can only get one picture, and that is of Steinitz who wasn't a FIDE
> >> Champion at all. He was champion before FIDE existed.
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> > As were Lasker and Capablanca. One might even include Alekhine as a
> > non-FIDE champion, even though he won the title in 1927, three years
> > after FIDE was founded.
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> One would certainly include Alekhine and Euwe as non-FIDE champions but
> neither was world champion before FIDE's foundation in 1924.
Quite true. That's the exact reason that I never said they were.
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 10:16:31
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Photos of the 15 FIDE World Chess Champions
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On Oct 2, 12:29 am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 30, 4:28 pm, "Tantale" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Matous/base.htm
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> > JMR
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> I can only get one picture, and that is of Steinitz who wasn't a FID=C9
> Champion at all. He was champion before FID=C9 existed.
As were Lasker and Capablanca. One might even include Alekhine as a
non-FIDE champion, even though he won the title in 1927, three years
after FIDE was founded. In 1928 FIDE declared that not he but
Bogolyubov as world champion, by virtue of a match he won with Euwe.
"The minutes of the FIDE's 5th Congress (The Hague, 1-5 August 1928)
relate that the General Assembly regard that year's Bogoljubow v Euwe
encounter (+3 -2 =3D5) as the first match for the title of FIDE
champion." -- Kings, Commoners and Knaves by Edward Winter, pp.
209-210.
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 21:43:00
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Photos of the 15 FIDE World Chess Champions
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Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Oct 2, 12:29 am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sep 30, 4:28 pm, "Tantale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Matous/base.htm
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>> I can only get one picture, and that is of Steinitz who wasn't a FIDE
>> Champion at all. He was champion before FIDE existed.
>
> As were Lasker and Capablanca. One might even include Alekhine as a
> non-FIDE champion, even though he won the title in 1927, three years
> after FIDE was founded.
One would certainly include Alekhine and Euwe as non-FIDE champions but
neither was world champion before FIDE's foundation in 1924.
Dave.
--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a Renaissance masterpiece but
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 04:29:24
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Photos of the 15 FIDE World Chess Champions
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On Sep 30, 4:28 pm, "Tantale" <[email protected] > wrote:
> http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Matous/base.htm
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> JMR
I can only get one picture, and that is of Steinitz who wasn't a FID=C9
Champion at all. He was champion before FID=C9 existed.
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Date: 01 Oct 2007 09:15:09
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Photos of the 15 FIDE World Chess Champions
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On Sep 30, 11:28 am, "Tantale" <[email protected] > wrote:
> http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Matous/base.htm
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> JMR
If this is supposed to show, as you seem to say, all the *_FIDE_*
champions, then you would have to include Khalifman, Ponoiov,
Kasimdzhanov and Topalov. As it stands, you have some an unexplained
gap. Kasparov's time as champion is given as "1985-...", while
Kramnik's is "2006-2007." It seems that you consider Kramnik to have
won his title from Topalov in 2006, rather than from Kasparov in 2000,
yet you don't have Topalov among your champions. To be consistent, you
would either have to give Kasparov's reign as 1985-2000 and Kramnik's
as 2000-2007, or include all the others who wore the FIDE version of
the crown 1993-2006.
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