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Date: 29 Sep 2008 22:31:56
From: Carlo Wood
Subject: PGN outdated?
Hi fellow chess lovers,

one might say: PGN works, why change it?
But is that really true? Does it work?

The only definition in existance is the very first document
published by one man, after chatting a bit on this news group,
and is from 1994! It contains several "this has to be worked
out" and "in development" notes, which have never been addressed.
What is worse, it is incomplete and has even bugs.

Programmers that need to write a chess application, like me,
STILL have no "standard" and still have to make up a lot of things.
The result is that the standard is made by the most popular
application(s), and not by some clear definition.

What I'd like to do is review the way computer programs
exchange chess programs and create a real standard.

Is anyone else interested in such a project?

I'm certainly not only looking for technical people. More
important is a few people who know how to talk to the right
people and turn a good, new, definition into a real standard.

Regards,
Carlo Wood




 
Date: 02 Oct 2008 12:25:19
From: Carlo Wood
Subject: Re: PGN outdated?
It's not outdated in the sense that nobody uses it, it's outdated in the
sense that it's bulky, slow, very badly documented (incomplete, and I
found even inconsistencies in the "standard").

Nevertheless, it's our heritage, and until a much better OPEN standard
has been around for a long time, no chess program will be able to do
without it. Therefore I think two things are needed:

1) Rewrite the PGN standard to be a real, precise STANDARD that
programmers can rely on.

2) Design a new protocol that doesn't have the flaws of PGN, that
can replace PGN in the future.



 
Date: 29 Sep 2008 22:48:47
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: PGN outdated?

Pgn is a basic simple chess notation that has been around for a long
time and it is readable by just about every chess program that exists.
It may take up more space than chessbase or chess assistant but not
everyone can afford these kind of programs and free programs do very
well, not at the level like chessbase or CA but I for one can't afford
these kind of programs. It may be old but not outdated.

EZoto