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Date: 03 Nov 2007 17:55:35
From: samsloan
Subject: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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There was a motion to hold the next board meeting in person rather
than online as has been previously announced. The vote barely passed
4-3, with Truong, Polgar and Jim Berry voting against. Randy Hough
took a long time to make up his mind while somebody hummed the
"Jeopardy" theme tune. Finally, Hough voted to hold it in person.
I believe that Truong and Polgar had already told the board that they
would be there today only and are not coming back tomorrow.
The board went into closed session at 1:48 PM. I have heard from an
outside source that the independent investigation has been completed
and confirms the findings of the Mottershead Report. If that is true,
I suspect that the closed session will be dealing with that issue. I
believe that the other board members (with the possible exception of
Joel Channing) will be asking Paul and Susan to resign. Paul and Susan
will not go easily however and I expect a fight either now or later.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 04 Nov 2007 14:45:50
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 130)
Behind Closed Doors
EVANS: Lev, it's hard to believe that people who are supposed to
promote
chess in America are actually holding back its growth.
ALBURT: I couldn't believe it myself. But I learned that everyone in
the
business office and above all members of the board were interested
priily
in doing almost nothing. Nothing real. Nothing to promote chess. When
I
get together with Allen Kaufman or Jimmy Sherwin of the American Chess
Foundation we usually discuss ways to promote growth and emulate the
success of England, which sprang from nowhere to one of the top
nations.
EVANS: Didn't the board discuss these things?
ALBURT: No. I was extremely surprised that such topics were never
addressed. Never, ever.
EVANS: What was their goal?
ALBURT: Let me continue. Even when we went to a restaurant I always
expected them to bring up the subject of what can be done to make
chess
grow. But always the topics during our sessions was who should run for
the
board next year, who should be awarded national tournaments, or how to
avoid being attacked by critics.
The Historian wrote:
> On Nov 3, 7:55 pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The board went into closed session at 1:48 PM. I have heard from an
> > outside source that the independent investigation has been completed
> > and confirms the findings of the Mottershead Report.
>
> How long till this is leaked out?
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Date: 04 Nov 2007 10:28:29
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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On Nov 3, 7:55 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> The board went into closed session at 1:48 PM. I have heard from an
> outside source that the independent investigation has been completed
> and confirms the findings of the Mottershead Report.
How long till this is leaked out?
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Date: 04 Nov 2007 01:16:58
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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There were no earth shaking ideas, news or information to come out of
the meeting. Most of the discussion was about things that should have
been discussed before the meeting. For example, there was a long
discussion of the history of the US Open. Anybody who does not already
know the history of the US Open should not run for the board. Can you
think of anything that was not already common knowledge that was said
at the meeting?
Then, there was the inane and idiotic statement by Bill Hall that we
should just dispense all the money in the profit sharing /pension plan
and start a new plan. He has said the same thing at every other
meeting where this issue has come up. The first time you hear it, it
sounds intelligent. After you hear the same thing for over a year with
still no progress it sounds stupid. It does not address the questions
of: What money? Who gets it? For what? In one year on the board I was
never even able to find out what the plan was. No documents whatever
were ever produced. Then, Joel Channing criticized Donna because she
"went to the warehouse". Channing said that Donna "shoots like a
machine gun". Bill Hall said that the charges made on the USCF Issues
Forum are "ridiculous".
Sam Sloan
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 20:47:08
From:
Subject: Re: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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On Nov 3, 8:08 pm, "j.d.walker" <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 3, 6:02 pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > A lot of time was wasted talking about the history of the US Open,
> > something that any board member should already know about.
>
> > There were fire works at the end, when Joel Channing and Bill hall
> > started attacking Donna Alarie and Jack LeMoine in the audience
> > defended her (thank you Jack).
>
> > Here is a small part of the chat room comments that I was able to
> > save. (Note that the chat goes in reverse order, with the latest at
> > the top).
>
> > Simmitt has left the chat
> > timsawmiller has left the chat
> > Simmitt: He might have tazed you, though.
> > has left the chat
> > samsloan: You should have waited until they called the security guard
> > and threw you out.
> > dacp has entered the chat
> > samsloan: You quit a few minutes too soon.
> > samsloan: You quit a few minutes too soon.
> > samsloan: "We are getting it done", says Joel Channing.
> > Simmitt: Personal attacks really should be saved for Closed Session.
> > xplor: Thanks for the video link
> > administrator: bye
> > 1194111159cp has left the chat
> > 1194111159cp has left the chat
> > samsloan: Just those "answers" were not answers.
> > Guest064: Mottershead charges and related matters, Sat 12:30 (closed)
> > samsloan: "Answers have been given" is true.
> > samsloan: "It has been offered a lot more than once."
> > timsawmiller: periodic progress reports would alleviate some of the
> > grumbling that goes on
> > Guest064: The financial records are secret, cannot see them, cannot
> > talks about them either.
> > samsloan: "She is not doing good for us, by the way she handles
> > things".
> > Simmitt: I wonder if the various lawyers are taping this???
> > samsloan: Donna "shoots like a mancine gun".
> > dacp: They started this in November 2006???
> > samsloan: Donn a "went to the warehouse" BAD BAD
> > timsawmiller has entered the chat
> > Simmitt: It's almost like having the webcam on in Closed Session right
> > now
> > samsloan: Donna is "making trouble" says Joel Channing.
> > dacp: Going to NY Times too.
> > dacp: It goes to ERISA next week
> > dacp: email me directly
> > samsloan: I agree with Jack Lemoine, who is speaking.
> > dacp: who is speaking?
> > Simmitt: Who is the guest speaking now?
> > samsloan: Are you listening, Donna?
> > samsloan: Joe Nanna I mean.
> > samsloan: I agree with Joe Donna.
> > administrator: haha, no I wouldn't leave my gear here overnight
> > Simmitt: Can't you just forget to turn the webcam off for Closed
> > Session?
> > Simmitt: Can'
> > Simmitt has entered the chat
> > timsawmiller has entered the chat
> > timsawmiller: all: u can change the refresh rate by usng the options
> > link to the right--------------------------------->
> > administrator: Joe Nanna speaking
> > samsloan: The same stupid, meaningless idea from Bill Hall.
> > administrator: I am leaving soon
> > administrator: he is sumizing the findings to be presented to the
> > EB in closed session this pm
> > Guest064: You will not try to eavsedrop on the closed session?
> > samsloan: Bill Hall calls scandals "ridiculous".
> > timsawmiller has entered the chat
> > administrator: live stream only for me
> > samsloan: Has anybody captured this on video??
> > administrator: chat room will remain open. Be nice.
> > observer22 has entered the chat
> > administrator: last topic then I shut down until tomorrow morning
>
> Thanks for the news. Any other observers that can clue us in more?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's not clear to me what is going on. Randy Bauer has said the USCF
has had yet to hire an independent expert.
Dishonest people at the Chess Federation are fixing to face a jury,
and answer for these death threats.
cus Roberts
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Date: 04 Nov 2007 01:08:11
From: j.d.walker
Subject: Re: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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On Nov 3, 6:02 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> A lot of time was wasted talking about the history of the US Open,
> something that any board member should already know about.
>
> There were fire works at the end, when Joel Channing and Bill hall
> started attacking Donna Alarie and Jack LeMoine in the audience
> defended her (thank you Jack).
>
> Here is a small part of the chat room comments that I was able to
> save. (Note that the chat goes in reverse order, with the latest at
> the top).
>
> Simmitt has left the chat
> timsawmiller has left the chat
> Simmitt: He might have tazed you, though.
> has left the chat
> samsloan: You should have waited until they called the security guard
> and threw you out.
> dacp has entered the chat
> samsloan: You quit a few minutes too soon.
> samsloan: You quit a few minutes too soon.
> samsloan: "We are getting it done", says Joel Channing.
> Simmitt: Personal attacks really should be saved for Closed Session.
> xplor: Thanks for the video link
> administrator: bye
> 1194111159cp has left the chat
> 1194111159cp has left the chat
> samsloan: Just those "answers" were not answers.
> Guest064: Mottershead charges and related matters, Sat 12:30 (closed)
> samsloan: "Answers have been given" is true.
> samsloan: "It has been offered a lot more than once."
> timsawmiller: periodic progress reports would alleviate some of the
> grumbling that goes on
> Guest064: The financial records are secret, cannot see them, cannot
> talks about them either.
> samsloan: "She is not doing good for us, by the way she handles
> things".
> Simmitt: I wonder if the various lawyers are taping this???
> samsloan: Donna "shoots like a mancine gun".
> dacp: They started this in November 2006???
> samsloan: Donn a "went to the warehouse" BAD BAD
> timsawmiller has entered the chat
> Simmitt: It's almost like having the webcam on in Closed Session right
> now
> samsloan: Donna is "making trouble" says Joel Channing.
> dacp: Going to NY Times too.
> dacp: It goes to ERISA next week
> dacp: email me directly
> samsloan: I agree with Jack Lemoine, who is speaking.
> dacp: who is speaking?
> Simmitt: Who is the guest speaking now?
> samsloan: Are you listening, Donna?
> samsloan: Joe Nanna I mean.
> samsloan: I agree with Joe Donna.
> administrator: haha, no I wouldn't leave my gear here overnight
> Simmitt: Can't you just forget to turn the webcam off for Closed
> Session?
> Simmitt: Can'
> Simmitt has entered the chat
> timsawmiller has entered the chat
> timsawmiller: all: u can change the refresh rate by usng the options
> link to the right--------------------------------->
> administrator: Joe Nanna speaking
> samsloan: The same stupid, meaningless idea from Bill Hall.
> administrator: I am leaving soon
> administrator: he is sumizing the findings to be presented to the
> EB in closed session this pm
> Guest064: You will not try to eavsedrop on the closed session?
> samsloan: Bill Hall calls scandals "ridiculous".
> timsawmiller has entered the chat
> administrator: live stream only for me
> samsloan: Has anybody captured this on video??
> administrator: chat room will remain open. Be nice.
> observer22 has entered the chat
> administrator: last topic then I shut down until tomorrow morning
Thanks for the news. Any other observers that can clue us in more?
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 18:02:02
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: November 3, 2007 USCF Executive Board meeting
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A lot of time was wasted talking about the history of the US Open,
something that any board member should already know about.
There were fire works at the end, when Joel Channing and Bill hall
started attacking Donna Alarie and Jack LeMoine in the audience
defended her (thank you Jack).
Here is a small part of the chat room comments that I was able to
save. (Note that the chat goes in reverse order, with the latest at
the top).
Simmitt has left the chat
timsawmiller has left the chat
Simmitt: He might have tazed you, though.
has left the chat
samsloan: You should have waited until they called the security guard
and threw you out.
dacp has entered the chat
samsloan: You quit a few minutes too soon.
samsloan: You quit a few minutes too soon.
samsloan: "We are getting it done", says Joel Channing.
Simmitt: Personal attacks really should be saved for Closed Session.
xplor: Thanks for the video link
administrator: bye
1194111159cp has left the chat
1194111159cp has left the chat
samsloan: Just those "answers" were not answers.
Guest064: Mottershead charges and related matters, Sat 12:30 (closed)
samsloan: "Answers have been given" is true.
samsloan: "It has been offered a lot more than once."
timsawmiller: periodic progress reports would alleviate some of the
grumbling that goes on
Guest064: The financial records are secret, cannot see them, cannot
talks about them either.
samsloan: "She is not doing good for us, by the way she handles
things".
Simmitt: I wonder if the various lawyers are taping this???
samsloan: Donna "shoots like a mancine gun".
dacp: They started this in November 2006???
samsloan: Donn a "went to the warehouse" BAD BAD
timsawmiller has entered the chat
Simmitt: It's almost like having the webcam on in Closed Session right
now
samsloan: Donna is "making trouble" says Joel Channing.
dacp: Going to NY Times too.
dacp: It goes to ERISA next week
dacp: email me directly
samsloan: I agree with Jack Lemoine, who is speaking.
dacp: who is speaking?
Simmitt: Who is the guest speaking now?
samsloan: Are you listening, Donna?
samsloan: Joe Nanna I mean.
samsloan: I agree with Joe Donna.
administrator: haha, no I wouldn't leave my gear here overnight
Simmitt: Can't you just forget to turn the webcam off for Closed
Session?
Simmitt: Can'
Simmitt has entered the chat
timsawmiller has entered the chat
timsawmiller: all: u can change the refresh rate by usng the options
link to the right--------------------------------- >
administrator: Joe Nanna speaking
samsloan: The same stupid, meaningless idea from Bill Hall.
administrator: I am leaving soon
administrator: he is sumizing the findings to be presented to the
EB in closed session this pm
Guest064: You will not try to eavsedrop on the closed session?
samsloan: Bill Hall calls scandals "ridiculous".
timsawmiller has entered the chat
administrator: live stream only for me
samsloan: Has anybody captured this on video??
administrator: chat room will remain open. Be nice.
observer22 has entered the chat
administrator: last topic then I shut down until tomorrow morning
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