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Date: 31 Jul 2008 07:37:33
From: RookHouse
Subject: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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I have come across various sources that claim Borislav Kostic played and defeated Jackson W. Showalter in a match in 1916, yet I have never come across a single games between these two players. Can anyone validate this? And if so, does anyone have any of the games played? Thank You, Rook House www.rookhouse.com/blog
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 10:15:23
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 12:41=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > > Showalter didn't do well; it was a 3RR tournament among 4 players, won > by WL Moorman 7-2 with Showalter and SFJ Trabue tied at 4-5 and N > Hernandes 3. It is listed in Gaige, and was reported in chess columns > of the time. > Interesting, I've never come across that before. Thanks for the info.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 10:14:04
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 12:40=A0pm, [email protected] wrote: > > =A0 You mean overall, or just about chess? On chess, around 450. If we > include magazines, probably at least that many more. On other topics, > If we include everything from my sci-fi paperbacks and the wife's > cookbooks and romance novels, to hefty scholarly historical tomes and > the Encyclopaedia Britannica, it's well into the thousands. > =A0 My philosophy is that money spent on good books is never wasted. Or > to paraphrase Frewheelin' Frank of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, > "Books will get you through times of no money better than money will > get you through times of no books." > VERY impressive sir.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 09:41:36
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 9:30=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Aug 1, 9:47=A0am, "[email protected]"<jeremy.p.spin...@v= anderbilt.edu > wrote: > > > Wasn't the Tampa tournament earlier that year? He also played various > > simuls in Lexington, if you count those. I still vote for the year > > being off; somehow making up a match score so specifically seems odd. > > I don't know what the first source for it is, but I wouldn't be > > surprised if Kostic was talking about players he had encountered a > > couple years later, getting the date off and not distinguishing > > between a formal match and a series of games. > > I have no record at all of a tournament in Tampa in 1916. Showalter didn't do well; it was a 3RR tournament among 4 players, won by WL Moorman 7-2 with Showalter and SFJ Trabue tied at 4-5 and N Hernandes 3. It is listed in Gaige, and was reported in chess columns of the time. Jerry Spinrad > > My belief is that the match score derived from their head-to-head > meetings over the years and was eventually misinterpreted as a match > score. =A0Very similar to one person reporting Showalter's birth year as > 1860 and everyone else repeating this error in publications and > articles.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 09:40:25
From:
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 10:36=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Aug 1, 10:33=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 10:27=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Aug 1, 10:01=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > =A0 Ah, yes. Thank you. My error. > > > > =A0 Still, if the Kostic-Showalter match did not take place, how di= d > > > > Kuiper come up with a score for it? Unless he just fabricated when > > > > lacking hard data (which I doubt he did), someone somewhere must ha= ve > > > > reported a score of +7 -2 =3D5. However, unlike Gaige did with his > > > > tournament crosstables, Kuiper does not give a source for most matc= hes > > > > he reports. > > > > Does anyone know if the match is mentioned in DeFelice's "Chess > > > Results: 1910-1920"?? > > > =A0 It is, with the same score, but I would not take much stock in that= . > > DiFelice did little original research. I am sure that in this case he > > just copied Kuiper. Probably 90% (or more) of his two "Chess Results" > > books were copied from either Kuiper or Gaige. > > Damn Taylor, just how MANY books do you own? You mean overall, or just about chess? On chess, around 450. If we include magazines, probably at least that many more. On other topics, If we include everything from my sci-fi paperbacks and the wife's cookbooks and romance novels, to hefty scholarly historical tomes and the Encyclopaedia Britannica, it's well into the thousands. My philosophy is that money spent on good books is never wasted. Or to paraphrase Frewheelin' Frank of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, "Books will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no books."
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:36:04
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 10:33=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > On Aug 1, 10:27=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 10:01=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > =A0 Ah, yes. Thank you. My error. > > > =A0 Still, if the Kostic-Showalter match did not take place, how did > > > Kuiper come up with a score for it? Unless he just fabricated when > > > lacking hard data (which I doubt he did), someone somewhere must have > > > reported a score of +7 -2 =3D5. However, unlike Gaige did with his > > > tournament crosstables, Kuiper does not give a source for most matche= s > > > he reports. > > > Does anyone know if the match is mentioned in DeFelice's "Chess > > Results: 1910-1920"?? > > =A0 It is, with the same score, but I would not take much stock in that. > DiFelice did little original research. I am sure that in this case he > just copied Kuiper. Probably 90% (or more) of his two "Chess Results" > books were copied from either Kuiper or Gaige. Damn Taylor, just how MANY books do you own?!?!?
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:34:52
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 10:22=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote: > > I playerd a guy a match in a London pub about 20 yrs ago. > They weren't that serious. We usually kept score, but not always. > On Chessbase, with a listing of "London Match" it might look quite > organized. I really think a lot of old matches are like that. > That's a good point. Many of these little mysteries will never be accurately solved, only speculated.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:33:32
From:
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 10:27=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Aug 1, 10:01=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > > =A0 Ah, yes. Thank you. My error. > > =A0 Still, if the Kostic-Showalter match did not take place, how did > > Kuiper come up with a score for it? Unless he just fabricated when > > lacking hard data (which I doubt he did), someone somewhere must have > > reported a score of +7 -2 =3D5. However, unlike Gaige did with his > > tournament crosstables, Kuiper does not give a source for most matches > > he reports. > > Does anyone know if the match is mentioned in DeFelice's "Chess > Results: 1910-1920"?? It is, with the same score, but I would not take much stock in that. DiFelice did little original research. I am sure that in this case he just copied Kuiper. Probably 90% (or more) of his two "Chess Results" books were copied from either Kuiper or Gaige.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:30:22
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 9:47=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > > Wasn't the Tampa tournament earlier that year? He also played various > simuls in Lexington, if you count those. I still vote for the year > being off; somehow making up a match score so specifically seems odd. > I don't know what the first source for it is, but I wouldn't be > surprised if Kostic was talking about players he had encountered a > couple years later, getting the date off and not distinguishing > between a formal match and a series of games. > I have no record at all of a tournament in Tampa in 1916. My belief is that the match score derived from their head-to-head meetings over the years and was eventually misinterpreted as a match score. Very similar to one person reporting Showalter's birth year as 1860 and everyone else repeating this error in publications and articles.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:27:07
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 10:01=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > =A0 Ah, yes. Thank you. My error. > =A0 Still, if the Kostic-Showalter match did not take place, how did > Kuiper come up with a score for it? Unless he just fabricated when > lacking hard data (which I doubt he did), someone somewhere must have > reported a score of +7 -2 =3D5. However, unlike Gaige did with his > tournament crosstables, Kuiper does not give a source for most matches > he reports. > Does anyone know if the match is mentioned in DeFelice's "Chess Results: 1910-1920"??
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:25:10
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 9:01=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > On Aug 1, 9:40=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 9:31=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > =A0 Eh? I thought you were asking about Boris Kostic. This is Abraham > > > Kupchik. > > > Kupchik was just in part of the paragraph. =A0Kostic is mentioned at th= e > > end. > > > "Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when > > the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed > > to materialize." > > =A0 Ah, yes. Thank you. My error. > =A0 Still, if the Kostic-Showalter match did not take place, how did > Kuiper come up with a score for it? Unless he just fabricated when > lacking hard data (which I doubt he did), someone somewhere must have > reported a score of +7 -2 =3D5. However, unlike Gaige did with his > tournament crosstables, Kuiper does not give a source for most matches > he reports. It is also in Bachmann's list, which was from the early 1920s. I believe Kuiper used this source; the question is, where did Bachmann get it from? Jerry Spinrad
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:22:04
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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RookHouse wrote: > I have come across various sources that claim Borislav Kostic played > and defeated Jackson W. Showalter in a match in 1916, yet I have never > come across a single games between these two players. > > Can anyone validate this? And if so, does anyone have any of the > games played? I playerd a guy a match in a London pub about 20 yrs ago. They weren't that serious. We usually kept score, but not always. On Chessbase, with a listing of "London Match" it might look quite organized. I really think a lot of old matches are like that.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 07:01:06
From:
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 9:40=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Aug 1, 9:31=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > =A0 Eh? I thought you were asking about Boris Kostic. This is Abraham > > Kupchik. > > Kupchik was just in part of the paragraph. =A0Kostic is mentioned at the > end. > > "Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when > the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed > to materialize." Ah, yes. Thank you. My error. Still, if the Kostic-Showalter match did not take place, how did Kuiper come up with a score for it? Unless he just fabricated when lacking hard data (which I doubt he did), someone somewhere must have reported a score of +7 -2 =3D5. However, unlike Gaige did with his tournament crosstables, Kuiper does not give a source for most matches he reports.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 06:53:16
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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RookHouse wrote: > I have come across various sources that claim Borislav Kostic played > and defeated Jackson W. Showalter in a match in 1916, yet I have never > come across a single games between these two players. > > Can anyone validate this? And if so, does anyone have any of the > games played? I playerd a guy a match in a London pub about 20 yrs ago. They weren't that serious. We usually kept score, but not always. On Chessbase, with a listing of "London Match" it might look quite organized. I really think a lot of old matches are like that.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 06:47:33
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 8:17=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]" > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a bit odd; I think I need a little more information. The > > sources I have say the match was in Frankfort 1916. What seems odd > > about this is that the Lexington Herald gave essentially daily > > coverage of his 1916 matches against Whitaker and Janowski, there is > > no mention of a 1916 match against Kostic. > > > The Philadelphia Inquirer of Sept 17, 1916 mentions a match between > > the two players falling through. > > > I think that it is possible (though I am not at all certain on this) > > that the date of the match is wrong. Kostic visited Kentucky in > > October of 1915, and Showalter is said to be very eager to play with > > him; Showalter then invites Kostic to be his guest for a week, and > > Kostic accepts this invitation. There is no mention of a match, but it > > seems possible to me that the two men played a series of games at that > > time, which only were reported in 1916. I should note that the > > Janowski match is given as 1917 in the same sources that give the > > Kostic match as 1915, but it really was the end of 1916. > > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a > > different year). > > I really don't think the match ever took place, I found this in the > September-October 1916 edition of the American > Chess Bulletin: > > "Efforts to bring about a set match between J. Showalter and A. > Kupchik at Lexington unfortunately came to naught in consequence of a > change of the business fortunes of Kupchik. =A0Showalter had announced > his readiness to play such a match under the condition that it be one > of eight games up, under a time limit of fifteen moves an hourand for > stakes of $500 dollars a side, Kupchik to be allowed $100 dollars for > expenses.Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when > the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed > to materialize." > > It then shows an off-hand game between the two that Kostic won. =A0This > was just following the Western Championship that took place in Chicago > from August 14th to the 23rd. =A0Showalter participated, but Kostic did > not. > > Showalter's only activity that year was the match with Whitaker in > June, the Western tournament in August, and his match with Janowski at > the end of the year.- Hide quoted text - Wasn't the Tampa tournament earlier that year? He also played various simuls in Lexington, if you count those. I still vote for the year being off; somehow making up a match score so specifically seems odd. I don't know what the first source for it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Kostic was talking about players he had encountered a couple years later, getting the date off and not distinguishing between a formal match and a series of games. Jerry Spinrad Jerry Spinrad > > - Show quoted text -
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 06:40:24
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 9:31=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > > =A0 Eh? I thought you were asking about Boris Kostic. This is Abraham > Kupchik. > Kupchik was just in part of the paragraph. Kostic is mentioned at the end. "Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed to materialize."
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 06:31:55
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Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Aug 1, 9:17=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]" > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a bit odd; I think I need a little more information. The > > sources I have say the match was in Frankfort 1916. What seems odd > > about this is that the Lexington Herald gave essentially daily > > coverage of his 1916 matches against Whitaker and Janowski, there is > > no mention of a 1916 match against Kostic. > > > The Philadelphia Inquirer of Sept 17, 1916 mentions a match between > > the two players falling through. > > > I think that it is possible (though I am not at all certain on this) > > that the date of the match is wrong. Kostic visited Kentucky in > > October of 1915, and Showalter is said to be very eager to play with > > him; Showalter then invites Kostic to be his guest for a week, and > > Kostic accepts this invitation. There is no mention of a match, but it > > seems possible to me that the two men played a series of games at that > > time, which only were reported in 1916. I should note that the > > Janowski match is given as 1917 in the same sources that give the > > Kostic match as 1915, but it really was the end of 1916. > > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a > > different year). > > I really don't think the match ever took place, I found this in the > September-October 1916 edition of the American > Chess Bulletin: > > "Efforts to bring about a set match between J. Showalter and A. > Kupchik at Lexington unfortunately came to naught in consequence of a > change of the business fortunes of Kupchik. =A0 Eh? I thought you were asking about Boris Kostic. This is Abraham Kupchik. > Showalter had announced > his readiness to play such a match under the condition that it be one > of eight games up, under a time limit of fifteen moves an hourand for > stakes of $500 dollars a side, Kupchik to be allowed $100 dollars for > expenses.Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when > the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed > to materialize." > > It then shows an off-hand game between the two that Kostic won. =A0This > was just following the Western Championship that took place in Chicago > from August 14th to the 23rd. =A0Showalter participated, but Kostic did > not. > > Showalter's only activity that year was the match with Whitaker in > June, the Western tournament in August, and his match with Janowski at > the end of the year.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 06:17:13
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > This is a bit odd; I think I need a little more information. The > sources I have say the match was in Frankfort 1916. What seems odd > about this is that the Lexington Herald gave essentially daily > coverage of his 1916 matches against Whitaker and Janowski, there is > no mention of a 1916 match against Kostic. > > The Philadelphia Inquirer of Sept 17, 1916 mentions a match between > the two players falling through. > > I think that it is possible (though I am not at all certain on this) > that the date of the match is wrong. Kostic visited Kentucky in > October of 1915, and Showalter is said to be very eager to play with > him; Showalter then invites Kostic to be his guest for a week, and > Kostic accepts this invitation. There is no mention of a match, but it > seems possible to me that the two men played a series of games at that > time, which only were reported in 1916. I should note that the > Janowski match is given as 1917 in the same sources that give the > Kostic match as 1915, but it really was the end of 1916. > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a > different year). > I really don't think the match ever took place, I found this in the September-October 1916 edition of the American Chess Bulletin: "Efforts to bring about a set match between J. Showalter and A. Kupchik at Lexington unfortunately came to naught in consequence of a change of the business fortunes of Kupchik. Showalter had announced his readiness to play such a match under the condition that it be one of eight games up, under a time limit of fifteen moves an hourand for stakes of $500 dollars a side, Kupchik to be allowed $100 dollars for expenses.Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed to materialize." It then shows an off-hand game between the two that Kostic won. This was just following the Western Championship that took place in Chicago from August 14th to the 23rd. Showalter participated, but Kostic did not. Showalter's only activity that year was the match with Whitaker in June, the Western tournament in August, and his match with Janowski at the end of the year.
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 06:13:12
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > This is a bit odd; I think I need a little more information. The > sources I have say the match was in Frankfort 1916. What seems odd > about this is that the Lexington Herald gave essentially daily > coverage of his 1916 matches against Whitaker and Janowski, there is > no mention of a 1916 match against Kostic. > > The Philadelphia Inquirer of Sept 17, 1916 mentions a match between > the two players falling through. > > I think that it is possible (though I am not at all certain on this) > that the date of the match is wrong. Kostic visited Kentucky in > October of 1915, and Showalter is said to be very eager to play with > him; Showalter then invites Kostic to be his guest for a week, and > Kostic accepts this invitation. There is no mention of a match, but it > seems possible to me that the two men played a series of games at that > time, which only were reported in 1916. I should note that the > Janowski match is given as 1917 in the same sources that give the > Kostic match as 1915, but it really was the end of 1916. > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a > different year). > I found this in the September-October 196 edition of the American Chess Bulletin: "Efforts to bring about a set match between J. Showalter and A. Kupchik at Lexington unfortunately came to naught in consequence of a change of the business fortunes of Kupchik. Showalter had announced his readiness to play such a match under the condition that it be one of eight games up, under a time limit of fifteen moves an hourand for stakes of $500 dollars a side, Kupchik to be allowed $100 dollars for expenses.Showalter held out the same proposition to Boris Kostic when the latter made overtures, but this prospective match likewise failed to materialize." It then shows an off-hand game between the two that Kostic won. This was just following the Western Championship that took place in Chicago from August 14th to the 23rd. Showalter participated, but Kostic did not.
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Date: 31 Jul 2008 11:57:01
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Jul 31, 12:03=A0pm, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 31, 1:00=A0pm, RookHouse <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]"<jeremy.p.spin.= [email protected] > wrote: > > > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > > > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from = a > > > different year). > > > Was that the 1918 tournament in Chicago (that Kostic won)? =A0 Could yo= u > > post the game here? > > > --Thanks > > Is it this one? That is the game though I think my version ends a couple of moves earlier Jerry Spinrad > > [Event "Chicago"] > [Site "Chicago"] > [Date "1918.09.??"] > [Round "0"] > [White "Showalter,Jackson Whipps"] > [Black "Kostic,Boris"] > [Result "1/2"] > [Eco "C44"] > > 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 d6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.Qe2 a6 7.Bc4 Qe7 8.Nbd2 > g6 > 9.0-0 Bg7 10.Re1 0-0 11.Bb3 Rae8 12.d5 Nb8 13.Nf1 h6 14.Ng3 Nh7 15.Bc2 > f5 16.exf5 gxf5 > 17.Nd4 e4 18.Qc4 Kh8 19.Ne6 Bxe6 20.dxe6 c6 21.Nxf5 Rxf5 22.Qxe4 Ref8 > 23.g4 Bxc3 24.bxc3 Re5 > 25.Qd4 c5 26.Qd1 Qxe6 27.Rxe5 dxe5 28.h3 Nc6 29.Qd3 Qf7 30.Be3 Ng5 > 31.Bxg5 hxg5 32.Qe3 Qf4 > 33.Qxc5 Nd4 34.Bf5 Nf3+ 35.Kf1 Rd8 36.Qe3 Qc4+ 37.Kg2 Nh4+ 38.Kh2 Qf4+ > 39.Qxf4 exf4 40.Be4 Rd2 > 41.Kg1 b6 42.a4 Kg7 43.Kf1 Ng6 44.Rb1 Rd6 45.Bb7 a5 46.Rb5 Kh6 47.c4 > Rd4 48.Bd5 f3 > 49.Bxf3 Rxc4 50.Rxb6 Rxa4 51.Bd1 Ra1 52.Ke2 Kg7 53.Rb7+ Kf6 54.Rb6+ > Kg7 55.Rb7+ Kf6 56.Rb6+ Kg7 > 57.Rb7+ Kf6 58.Rb6+ Kg7 1/2
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Date: 31 Jul 2008 10:03:30
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Jul 31, 1:00=A0pm, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]"<jeremy.p.spin...= @vanderbilt.edu > wrote: > > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a > > different year). > > Was that the 1918 tournament in Chicago (that Kostic won)? =A0 Could you > post the game here? > > --Thanks Is it this one? [Event "Chicago"] [Site "Chicago"] [Date "1918.09.??"] [Round "0"] [White "Showalter,Jackson Whipps"] [Black "Kostic,Boris"] [Result "1/2"] [Eco "C44"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 d6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.Qe2 a6 7.Bc4 Qe7 8.Nbd2 g6 9.0-0 Bg7 10.Re1 0-0 11.Bb3 Rae8 12.d5 Nb8 13.Nf1 h6 14.Ng3 Nh7 15.Bc2 f5 16.exf5 gxf5 17.Nd4 e4 18.Qc4 Kh8 19.Ne6 Bxe6 20.dxe6 c6 21.Nxf5 Rxf5 22.Qxe4 Ref8 23.g4 Bxc3 24.bxc3 Re5 25.Qd4 c5 26.Qd1 Qxe6 27.Rxe5 dxe5 28.h3 Nc6 29.Qd3 Qf7 30.Be3 Ng5 31.Bxg5 hxg5 32.Qe3 Qf4 33.Qxc5 Nd4 34.Bf5 Nf3+ 35.Kf1 Rd8 36.Qe3 Qc4+ 37.Kg2 Nh4+ 38.Kh2 Qf4+ 39.Qxf4 exf4 40.Be4 Rd2 41.Kg1 b6 42.a4 Kg7 43.Kf1 Ng6 44.Rb1 Rd6 45.Bb7 a5 46.Rb5 Kh6 47.c4 Rd4 48.Bd5 f3 49.Bxf3 Rxc4 50.Rxb6 Rxa4 51.Bd1 Ra1 52.Ke2 Kg7 53.Rb7+ Kf6 54.Rb6+ Kg7 55.Rb7+ Kf6 56.Rb6+ Kg7 57.Rb7+ Kf6 58.Rb6+ Kg7 1/2
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Date: 31 Jul 2008 10:00:27
From: RookHouse
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Jul 31, 12:28=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > > A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it > was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a > different year). > Was that the 1918 tournament in Chicago (that Kostic won)? Could you post the game here? --Thanks
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Date: 31 Jul 2008 09:28:49
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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This is a bit odd; I think I need a little more information. The sources I have say the match was in Frankfort 1916. What seems odd about this is that the Lexington Herald gave essentially daily coverage of his 1916 matches against Whitaker and Janowski, there is no mention of a 1916 match against Kostic. The Philadelphia Inquirer of Sept 17, 1916 mentions a match between the two players falling through. I think that it is possible (though I am not at all certain on this) that the date of the match is wrong. Kostic visited Kentucky in October of 1915, and Showalter is said to be very eager to play with him; Showalter then invites Kostic to be his guest for a week, and Kostic accepts this invitation. There is no mention of a match, but it seems possible to me that the two men played a series of games at that time, which only were reported in 1916. I should note that the Janowski match is given as 1917 in the same sources that give the Kostic match as 1915, but it really was the end of 1916. A quick search turned up one game between these two players, but it was not from the match (it was a Western Chess Association game from a different year). Jerry Spinrad On Jul 31, 9:37=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > I have come across various sources that claim Borislav Kostic played > and defeated Jackson W. Showalter in a match in 1916, yet I have never > come across a single games between these two players. > > Can anyone validate this? =A0And if so, does anyone have any of the > games played? > > Thank You, > Rook Housewww.rookhouse.com/blog
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Date: 31 Jul 2008 07:57:42
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Subject: Re: Kostic vs Showalter ??
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On Jul 31, 10:37=A0am, RookHouse <[email protected] > wrote: > I have come across various sources that claim Borislav Kostic played > and defeated Jackson W. Showalter in a match in 1916, yet I have never > come across a single games between these two players. > > Can anyone validate this? =A0And if so, does anyone have any of the > games played? > > Thank You, > Rook Housewww.rookhouse.com/blog I can supply no games, but I can confirm that P. Feenstra Kuiper's "Hundert Jahre Schachzweik=E4mpfe" does list the match, saying it was held in Frankfort (presumably Kentucky) and that Kostic won +7 -2 =3D5. Seems to have been a busy year for Showalter; he also played N.T. Whitaker, winning +6 -1, and Janowski, losing +2 -7 =3D2, both of those matches taking place in Lexington.
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