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Date: 16 Mar 2008 23:28:32
From: Sanny
Subject: Know about GRAND CHESS

I was talking about new Games and Help Bot suggested me that why not
have a board 100x100 size. That is too Big.

We see people have mastered Chess so deep that they have just
memorized first 10 Moves.

But the beauty of Chess lies in its complexities.

Here is a new GRAND CHESS I propose.

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Discussion&itemid=18&lang=en&ref=

Here the size of bord ir not 8x8 but 16x16 and this is only for
players who have already Mastered the Modern Chess. As those who do
not know Chess will find it much difficult to learn.

Here your Board is 16x16.

With 16 Pawns in 2nd Row. and on first Row the pieces will be as
follows.

"RRNNBBQQKKBBNNRR"

So every thing is twice and there will be 2 kings to Mate.

In normal Chess game ends whenever the King is trapped. But in Grand
Chess you have to kill 2 kings to end the Game. Rest all other rules
are the same as Modern Chess except that there in no Chastling
allowed.

In GRAN GAME we will have below benefits.

1. WHITE & BLACK pieces will be seperated at a higher distance So a
lot of strategy is needed to reach opponent pieces.

2. Since 2 Kings Game will not be just to surround the King. But
because opponent can place its king at seperate areas a lot of
critical thinking will be needed to finish 2 kings.

3. Normally Chess game ends in 40-60 Moves Grand Chess will end in
200-500 moves and Win by Luck will be minimized. And you can play a
game for a week and that will a real hard win.

If Chess player like this game I will design GRAND CHESS for players
to play on their Computer.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 18 Mar 2008 07:48:14
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 4:22=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> If you Google "Revenge of the Mooninites" you can actually find the
> full episode on Spike TV website. =A0I am not posting the link, because
> the episode has a bit of raunchy material (reference to porn,
> etc...). =A0You get to see how Hot-Blooded worked, and yes the power was
> invoked in the episode. =A0I like how they fooled someone to misuse the
> belt by quoting lyrics from a Loverboy song =A0:-) (I think).

I had watched one episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force years ago, when
my kids were teenagers. Now I've watched two. I doubt there will be a
third time. But thanks for the search phrase. Yes, there was a
reference to Loverboy, and to the Foreigner songs Cold as Ice, Hot
Blooded, Double Vision, Urgent, Head Games, Dirty White Boy, and
perhaps a few others.
I never much cared for Foreigner; they were one of those groups that
somehow did everything a rock-and-roll band was supposed to, but never
actually managed to play rock-and-roll. To paraphrase the Incredible
String Band, they could play all the notes and they knew all the
words, but they never quite learned the song.

Date: 18 Mar 2008 02:53:22
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 18, 5:18 am, "RPM1" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:5d7199c1-a239-42b9-b479-f9fddfc5578a@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I was talking about new Games and Help Bot suggested me that why not
> > have a board 100x100 size. That is too Big.
>
> > We see people have mastered Chess so deep that they have just
> > memorized first 10 Moves.
>
> > But the beauty of Chess lies in its complexities.
>
> > Here is a new GRAND CHESS I propose.
>
> Why not Japanese or Chinese Chess? They should be different enough for most
> western chess players and yet they have a tradition already.

Or Enochian chess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian_chess.

Date: 18 Mar 2008 01:18:22
From: RPM1
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:5d7199c1-a239-42b9-b479-f9fddfc5578a@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I was talking about new Games and Help Bot suggested me that why not
> have a board 100x100 size. That is too Big.
>
> We see people have mastered Chess so deep that they have just
> memorized first 10 Moves.
>
> But the beauty of Chess lies in its complexities.
>
> Here is a new GRAND CHESS I propose.

Why not Japanese or Chinese Chess? They should be different enough for most
western chess players and yet they have a tradition already.

Date: 17 Mar 2008 16:49:05
From: Maple Tree
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

Stop crossposting shit

"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:5d7199c1-a239-42b9-b479-f9fddfc5578a@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I was talking about new Games and Help Bot suggested me that why not
> have a board 100x100 size. That is too Big.
>
> We see people have mastered Chess so deep that they have just
> memorized first 10 Moves.
>
> But the beauty of Chess lies in its complexities.
>
> Here is a new GRAND CHESS I propose.
>
> http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Discussion&itemid=18&lang=en&ref=
>
> Here the size of bord ir not 8x8 but 16x16 and this is only for
> players who have already Mastered the Modern Chess. As those who do
> not know Chess will find it much difficult to learn.
>
> Here your Board is 16x16.
>
> With 16 Pawns in 2nd Row. and on first Row the pieces will be as
> follows.
>
> "RRNNBBQQKKBBNNRR"
>
> So every thing is twice and there will be 2 kings to Mate.
>
> In normal Chess game ends whenever the King is trapped. But in Grand
> Chess you have to kill 2 kings to end the Game. Rest all other rules
> are the same as Modern Chess except that there in no Chastling
> allowed.
>
> In GRAN GAME we will have below benefits.
>
> 1. WHITE & BLACK pieces will be seperated at a higher distance So a
> lot of strategy is needed to reach opponent pieces.
>
> 2. Since 2 Kings Game will not be just to surround the King. But
> because opponent can place its king at seperate areas a lot of
> critical thinking will be needed to finish 2 kings.
>
> 3. Normally Chess game ends in 40-60 Moves Grand Chess will end in
> 200-500 moves and Win by Luck will be minimized. And you can play a
> game for a week and that will a real hard win.
>
> If Chess player like this game I will design GRAND CHESS for players
> to play on their Computer.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
>

Date: 17 Mar 2008 17:05:33
From: Kerry Liles
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

I think the word "cross" is not necessary... it should simply be "stop
posting ..."

"Maple Tree" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Stop crossposting shit
>
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:5d7199c1-a239-42b9-b479-f9fddfc5578a@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

....drivel deleted

Date: 17 Mar 2008 13:24:51
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 3:54 pm, William Hyde <[email protected] > wrote:
> As far as I can tell Omega chess is still alive:
>
> http://www.omegachess.com/home.html
>
> I've only played a few games, but it seemed to have
> possibilities. There are two sample games here:
>
> http://www.omegachess.com/home.html?action=endorsements#undefined
>
> including one between Sherzer and Judit Polgar. The replay feature
> does not work on my machine, but then, many things don't.
>
> William Hyde

The International Omega Chess Federation does exist:
http://www.iocf.org/

They are promoting the game. I have exchanged a bit of email with
them. I am interested in getting their game on the IAGO World Tour
calendar.

- Rich

Date: 17 Mar 2008 13:22:04
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 10:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > That song brings back memories of an Aqua Teen Hunger Force episode
> > where the they had a Foreigner belt that gave whomever wore the belt
> > powers derived from Foreigner songs. This included giving other
> > people Double Vision, making them "Cold as Ice" and Mindgames was
> > particularly deadly.
>
> I can imagine. "Hot-Blooded" would also be unpleasant. On the other
> hand, "I Want to Know What Love Is" could be very nice.
> My own favorite along such lines was a "Red Meat" comic strip some
> years back. An old geeky guy in a bolo tie stares out from the page.
> He speaks:
>
> "Remember the old comic strip hero, the Human Torch, who could say
> 'Flame on!' and set hisself on fire? I saw a guy like that the other
> day.
> "Only he didn't have no 'flame on' super powers. He was just a
> regular guy on fire."

If you Google "Revenge of the Mooninites" you can actually find the
full episode on Spike TV website. I am not posting the link, because
the episode has a bit of raunchy material (reference to porn,
etc...). You get to see how Hot-Blooded worked, and yes the power was
invoked in the episode. I like how they fooled someone to misuse the
belt by quoting lyrics from a Loverboy song :-) (I think).

- Rich

Date: 17 Mar 2008 12:54:29
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

As far as I can tell Omega chess is still alive:

http://www.omegachess.com/home.html

I've only played a few games, but it seemed to have
possibilities. There are two sample games here:

http://www.omegachess.com/home.html?action=endorsements#undefined

including one between Sherzer and Judit Polgar. The replay feature
does not work on my machine, but then, many things don't.

William Hyde

Date: 17 Mar 2008 07:46:25
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 10:00 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] >
wrote:
> I don't think you should take half measures. Your board should be 160
> x 160 and you should have 20 kings per side. This game would be so
> complex only the GitClub computer would be genious enough to play it.
> Everyone else would loose.

The idea of doing double pieces is implemented in Millennium Chess.
The pieces are laid out on a 15x8 board and they mirror one another.
It plays much like chess, but is much heavier. It doesn't take
hundreds of moves either to play. I am curious how you manage to pull
off a double checkmate. In Millennium, you end up capturing one king
and then checkmate the second.

I will say it is a much heavier game than regular chess.

- Rich

Date: 17 Mar 2008 07:27:49
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 10:07=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On 17, 9:46 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > =A0 Actually, Sanny, the name "Grand Chess" is already taken. It refers
> > to a game designed by Christiaan Freeling in 1984. It has a 10x10
> > board and two extra peices, the shall (R+N powers) and the Cardinal
> > (B+N). The opening array is unusual:
>
> And it has gotten good reviews. =A0I am in favor of more chess
> variantes, but the names need to be watched carefully.
>
> > =A0 There is also a game called Grandchess (aka Ministers), copyrighted
> > in 1986 by Corinthian Games. It has a 9x9 board, with an extra queen;
> > the two queens, called ministers, stand on either side of their king.
>
> It actually was copyrighted with that name? =A0Interesting.
>
> > =A0 For your game, I would suggest the name Diplopia Chess. And here is
> > your theme song:
> > =A0 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVtquR007l64
>
> That song brings back memories of an Aqua Teen Hunger Force episode
> where the they had a Foreigner belt that gave whomever wore the belt
> powers derived from Foreigner songs. =A0This included giving other
> people Double Vision, making them "Cold as Ice" and Mindgames was
> particularly deadly.

I can imagine. "Hot-Blooded" would also be unpleasant. On the other
hand, "I Want to Know What Love Is" could be very nice.
My own favorite along such lines was a "Red Meat" comic strip some
years back. An old geeky guy in a bolo tie stares out from the page.
He speaks:

"Remember the old comic strip hero, the Human Torch, who could say
'Flame on!' and set hisself on fire? I saw a guy like that the other
day.
"Only he didn't have no 'flame on' super powers. He was just a
regular guy on fire."

Date: 17 Mar 2008 07:07:37
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 9:46 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Actually, Sanny, the name "Grand Chess" is already taken. It refers
> to a game designed by Christiaan Freeling in 1984. It has a 10x10
> board and two extra peices, the shall (R+N powers) and the Cardinal
> (B+N). The opening array is unusual:

And it has gotten good reviews. I am in favor of more chess
variantes, but the names need to be watched carefully.

> There is also a game called Grandchess (aka Ministers), copyrighted
> in 1986 by Corinthian Games. It has a 9x9 board, with an extra queen;
> the two queens, called ministers, stand on either side of their king.

It actually was copyrighted with that name? Interesting.

> For your game, I would suggest the name Diplopia Chess. And here is
> your theme song:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtquR007l64

That song brings back memories of an Aqua Teen Hunger Force episode
where the they had a Foreigner belt that gave whomever wore the belt
powers derived from Foreigner songs. This included giving other
people Double Vision, making them "Cold as Ice" and Mindgames was
particularly deadly.

- Rich

Date: 17 Mar 2008 07:00:34
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

I don't think you should take half measures. Your board should be 160
x 160 and you should have 20 kings per side. This game would be so
complex only the GitClub computer would be genious enough to play it.
Everyone else would loose.

Date: 17 Mar 2008 06:46:57
From:
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

On 17, 2:28=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> I was talking about new Games and Help Bot suggested me that why not
> have a board 100x100 size. That is too Big.
>
> We see people have mastered Chess so deep that they have just
> memorized first 10 Moves.
>
> But the beauty of Chess lies in its complexities.
>
> Here is a new GRAND CHESS I propose.
>
> http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=3DDiscussion&itemid=3D18&lang=3D=
e...
>
> Here the size of bord ir not 8x8 but 16x16 and this is only for
> players who have already Mastered the Modern Chess. As those who do
> not know Chess will find it much difficult to learn.
>
> Here your Board is 16x16.
>
> With 16 Pawns in 2nd Row. and on first Row the pieces will be as
> follows.
>
> "RRNNBBQQKKBBNNRR"
>
> So every thing is twice and there will be 2 kings to Mate.
>
> In normal Chess game ends whenever the King is trapped. But in Grand
> Chess you have to kill 2 kings to end the Game. Rest all other rules
> are the same as Modern Chess except that there in no Chastling
> allowed.
>
> In GRAN GAME we will have below benefits.
>
> 1. WHITE & BLACK pieces will be seperated at a higher distance So a
> lot of strategy is needed to reach opponent pieces.
>
> 2. Since 2 Kings Game will not be just to surround the King. But
> because opponent can place its king at seperate areas a lot of
> critical thinking will be needed to finish 2 kings.
>
> 3. Normally Chess game ends in 40-60 Moves Grand Chess will end in
> 200-500 moves and Win by Luck will be minimized. And you can play a
> game for a week and that will a real hard win.
>
> If Chess player like this game I will design GRAND CHESS for players
> to play on their Computer.

Actually, Sanny, the name "Grand Chess" is already taken. It refers
to a game designed by Christiaan Freeling in 1984. It has a 10x10
board and two extra peices, the shall (R+N powers) and the Cardinal
(B+N). The opening array is unusual:

PPPPPPPPPP
-NBQKMCBN -
R - - - - - - - - R

where the dashes represent empty squares.
There is also a game called Grandchess (aka Ministers), copyrighted
in 1986 by Corinthian Games. It has a 9x9 board, with an extra queen;
the two queens, called ministers, stand on either side of their king.

For your game, I would suggest the name Diplopia Chess. And here is
your theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVtquR007l64

Date: 17 Mar 2008 16:03:11
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Know about GRAND CHESS

How about this , two chess boards and have 4 players , a team game ..
Top and Gata vs Anand and Kraminck ...

Each player has his own pieces and once you checkmate one of the
Kings , then that player is gone but the other team mate keeps all the
pieces that are left over ..