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Date: 26 Sep 2008 08:42:20
From: DC
Subject: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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Starting bid is ridiculous:
http://easyurl.net/KKset
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Date: 12 Oct 2008 08:16:13
From:
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Oct 9, 5:16=A0pm, EZoto <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0700 (PDT), Offramp
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Sep 30, 2:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
> >> x-no-archive:yes
> >> On Sep 26, 7:42 am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > Starting bid is ridiculous:
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> >> >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>
> >> I predict zero bids.
>
> >...And you were right. But what if there had been no reserve? I wonder
> >what it would have fetched? I reckon about $250.
>
> Wasn't the clock used in the Capablanca - Alekhine match on ebay? =A0How
> much did that go for?
>
> EZoto
Something like $12,000 as I recall.
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Date: 07 Oct 2008 12:41:12
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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Offramp wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2:40 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Offramp wrote:
> > > On Sep 30, 2:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > x-no-archive:yes
> > > > On Sep 26, 7:42 am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Starting bid is ridiculous:
> >
> > > > >http://easyurl.net/KKset
> >
> > > > I predict zero bids.
> >
> > > ...And you were right. But what if there had been no reserve? I wonder
> > > what it would have fetched? I reckon about $250.
> >
> > Important matches should have great gear not crap.
>
> I think players would prefer just a standard set.
There is great gear that is very standard and non-fancy. Fischer-
Spassky '72 was just that for its time.
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 20:11:22
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Oct 7, 2:40 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Offramp wrote:
> > On Sep 30, 2:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > x-no-archive:yes
> > > On Sep 26, 7:42 am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> > > >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>
> > > I predict zero bids.
>
> > ...And you were right. But what if there had been no reserve? I wonder
> > what it would have fetched? I reckon about $250.
>
> Important matches should have great gear not crap.
I think players would prefer just a standard set.
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Date: 06 Oct 2008 18:40:55
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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Offramp wrote:
> On Sep 30, 2:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > x-no-archive:yes
> > On Sep 26, 7:42 am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Starting bid is ridiculous:
> >
> > >http://easyurl.net/KKset
> >
> > I predict zero bids.
>
> ...And you were right. But what if there had been no reserve? I wonder
> what it would have fetched? I reckon about $250.
Important matches should have great gear not crap.
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Date: 05 Oct 2008 22:09:46
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 30, 2:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
> x-no-archive:yes
> On Sep 26, 7:42 am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>
> I predict zero bids.
...And you were right. But what if there had been no reserve? I wonder
what it would have fetched? I reckon about $250.
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Date: 09 Oct 2008 20:16:26
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0700 (PDT), Offramp
<[email protected] > wrote:
>On Sep 30, 2:27 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> x-no-archive:yes
>> On Sep 26, 7:42 am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Starting bid is ridiculous:
>>
>> >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>>
>> I predict zero bids.
>
>...And you were right. But what if there had been no reserve? I wonder
>what it would have fetched? I reckon about $250.
Wasn't the clock used in the Capablanca - Alekhine match on ebay? How
much did that go for?
EZoto
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Date: 05 Oct 2008 11:15:04
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 30, 2:27=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> x-no-archive:yes
> On Sep 26, 7:42=A0am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>
> I predict zero bids.
And at the moment you are right. Still zero bids!
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Date: 05 Oct 2008 22:30:13
From: DC
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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In article <cd048b6e-af56-47ea-af5c-
[email protected] >
"[email protected]" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>
> On Sep 30, 2:27=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> > x-no-archive:yes
> > On Sep 26, 7:42=A0am, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Starting bid is ridiculous:
> >
> > >http://easyurl.net/KKset
> >
> > I predict zero bids.
>
> And at the moment you are right. Still zero bids!
Auction over - zero bids.
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Date: 30 Sep 2008 09:56:11
From:
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 30, 11:22=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sep 29, 9:43=A0pm, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 3:42 pm, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> > >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>
> > The set actually looks a bit crappy! I'd rather save $14000 and get
> > one of those Capablanca ebony/rosewood sets from Chess & bridge Ltd.
>
> =A0 The asking price is especially surprising, considering that this was
> not at all a title match. It was just a 4-game rapid exhibition, with
> a TL of G/20 or thereabouts, if I recall correctly. The main point of
> it was to promote a new 3-D goggle gimmick.
> =A0 As I recall, Karpov won the match +1 =3D3 by capitalizing on a seriou=
s
> miscalculation by GK in one game. I was there in NY for games 3 and 4,
> and found it surprising how much anti-Kasparov, pro-Karpov sentiment
> there was among the spectators.
I must correct myself: the score was +2 -1 =3D1 in Karpov's favor.
The miscalculation I referred to occurred in game 2. Kasparov,
White, was doing nicely (except on the clock) in this position:
W: Kh2, Qd5, Rb2, Bg2 Nh5, d4, f2, g3. h3
B: Kg7, Qa6, Rc1, Nd6, Bg6, f7, f6, h7
when suddenly he was completely flustered by Karpov's cagey
42...Be4!?. Apparently thinking that 43.Bxe4 Qf1 would lead to mate
(it doesn't), GK played 43.Qxe4?, then after 43... Nxe4 44. Nf5+ Kf8
45. Bxe4 Rc8
46. d5 Qa4 he blundered further with 47. Bf3?? Qa3 0-1
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Date: 03 Oct 2008 21:05:11
From: DC
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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In article <965722ea-4144-4110-a5eb-
[email protected] >
[email protected] wrote:
> Kasparov, White, was doing nicely (except on the clock) in this position:
>
> W: Kh2, Qd5, Rb2, Bg2 Nh4, d4, f2, g3. h3
> B: Kg7, Qa6, Rc1, Nd6, Bg6, f7, f6, h7
>
> when suddenly he was completely flustered by Karpov's cagey
> 42...Be4!?. Apparently thinking that 43.Bxe4 Qf1 would lead to mate
> (it doesn't), GK played 43.Qxe4?, then after 43... Nxe4 44. Nf5+ Kf8
> 45. Bxe4 Rc8
> 46. d5 Qa4 he blundered further with 47. Bf3?? Qa3 0-1
Complete game with comments:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1258398
YouTube video of the match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXRR9Ql7kI
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Date: 30 Sep 2008 14:44:54
From:
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 30, 4:52=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> Wow that bishop move that Karpov made , i just played it out ..I mite
> have done the same thing if i was Kasp...
>
> =A0 It is not checkmate on the next queen move but with the queen and roo=
k
> on row one it would be soon ..i should set it back up and see what mite
> happen if he takes the bishop for bishop.
If 43.Bxe4 Qf1 White gets out of trouble with 44.Nf5+! Nxf5 45.h4
Nh6 46.Bf3. The other good alternative was 43.Qa2, but GK didn't see
that either.
> =A0With his time clock running down Kasp did not have time to evaluate th=
e
> situation..
Very true. I was present only for the 3rd and 4th games, so I didn't
see this one in person, but I followed it online. That night I had a
dream about the game, and woke up realizing how Kasparov could have
escaped.
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Date: 30 Sep 2008 18:03:18
From:
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 30, 7:01=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> Thanks for that info , you saved me some time.
>
> That would have been fun to watch two great GM's in person..How does
> that work ?
>
> =A0 Were they on a stage and you sitting in the audience and did they hav=
e
> a large chess board on a screen that followed the moves ?
The venue was a TV studio in Times Square. On one side it had
windows facing the street, and any passers-by could watch. Quite a
crowd gathered on the sidewalk. Inside, invited spectators were seated
in a semi-circle around the two players, who were on the same level,
not on a raised stage. I personally was about 20 feet from them. There
were TV monitors on which one could follow the game.
> Did everyone have to be real quite or could you talk to the person
> sitting next to you ?
Silence was the rule.
> Were these fast games , 5 min game =A0or one or two hour games ? Each
> person gets one hour for example...
As I said, I remember it being a fast TL, like G/20 or G/30, with
perhaps a 5 or 10-second delay.
> After the =A0games were over did they just leave right away or did they
> talk to the crowd or take =A0any questions =A0from the crowd ?
After the second game, both Kasparov and Karpov answered questions
from the group. Most of those asking questions were chess journalists.
Susan Polgar acted as a sort of MC for the occasion.
> Just wondeing how something like that works.
>
> Thank you.
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Date: 01 Oct 2008 00:20:37
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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Thanks for answering all my questions , that would have been exciting
chess to watch.
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Date: 30 Sep 2008 16:01:11
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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Thanks for that info , you saved me some time.
That would have been fun to watch two great GM's in person..How does
that work ?
Were they on a stage and you sitting in the audience and did they have
a large chess board on a screen that followed the moves ?
Did everyone have to be real quite or could you talk to the person
sitting next to you ?
Were these fast games , 5 min game or one or two hour games ? Each
person gets one hour for example...
After the games were over did they just leave right away or did they
talk to the crowd or take any questions from the crowd ?
Just wondeing how something like that works.
Thank you.
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Date: 30 Sep 2008 13:52:06
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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Wow that bishop move that Karpov made , i just played it out ..I mite
have done the same thing if i was Kasp...
It is not checkmate on the next queen move but with the queen and rook
on row one it would be soon ..i should set it back up and see what mite
happen if he takes the bishop for bishop.
With his time clock running down Kasp did not have time to evaluate the
situation..
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Date: 30 Sep 2008 08:22:25
From:
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 29, 9:43=A0pm, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 26, 3:42 pm, DC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> >http://easyurl.net/KKset
>
> The set actually looks a bit crappy! I'd rather save $14000 and get
> one of those Capablanca ebony/rosewood sets from Chess & bridge Ltd.
The asking price is especially surprising, considering that this was
not at all a title match. It was just a 4-game rapid exhibition, with
a TL of G/20 or thereabouts, if I recall correctly. The main point of
it was to promote a new 3-D goggle gimmick.
As I recall, Karpov won the match +1 =3D3 by capitalizing on a serious
miscalculation by GK in one game. I was there in NY for games 3 and 4,
and found it surprising how much anti-Kasparov, pro-Karpov sentiment
there was among the spectators.
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Date: 29 Sep 2008 19:38:44
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 26, 11:03=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> It is too bad that Bill Brock got me suspended from ebay, so I cannot
> make the minimum bid of $15,000.
>
> So sad, and I wanted that chess set so much.
After you destroyed BB in the grudge match,
it should come as no surprise when he, in
turn, ruins your life by getting you banned from
ebay.
-- help bot
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Date: 29 Sep 2008 18:43:46
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 26, 3:42 pm, DC <[email protected] > wrote:
> Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> http://easyurl.net/KKset
The set actually looks a bit crappy! I'd rather save $14000 and get
one of those Capablanca ebony/rosewood sets from Chess & bridge Ltd.
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Date: 29 Sep 2008 18:27:57
From:
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 26, 7:42=A0am, DC <[email protected] > wrote:
> Starting bid is ridiculous:
>
> http://easyurl.net/KKset
I predict zero bids.
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Date: 26 Sep 2008 08:03:59
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Kasparov-Karpov last match chess set on eBay
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On Sep 26, 10:42=A0am, DC <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> http://easyurl.net/KKset
It is too bad that Bill Brock got me suspended from ebay, so I cannot
make the minimum bid of $15,000.
So sad, and I wanted that chess set so much.
Sam Sloan
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