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Date: 21 Dec 2007 16:52:25
From: Anonymous
Subject: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in mental institutions and posting from there.
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Date: 22 Dec 2007 17:08:34
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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On Dec 22, 6:38 am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected] > wrote: > On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > > mental institutions and posting from there. > > Are you afraid that your food ration will be reduced when > two more guys are assigned to your institution? Ask > them to feed you extra from the money they'll get by > selling the PC which you are using. (Anonymous monkeys > like you don't need no PC). That's a rather clumsy "reading". My take is that Mr. Anonymous is concerned for the well-being of the taxpayers, the general public who financially support mental institutions. It's fairly obvious that Anon. has taken a nasty hit in the wallet, and wants taxes lowered--- not just for himself, but for everyone; he sounds like one of those Libertarians, who detest big government-- or rather, /paying for/ big government. Oh, and don't worry: they never assign more than one chess player to the same ward; MAJOR ego issues, you see... . -- help bot
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Date: 22 Dec 2007 03:38:42
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected] > wrote: > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > mental institutions and posting from there. Are you afraid that your food ration will be reduced when two more guys are assigned to your institution? Ask them to feed you extra from the money they'll get by selling the PC which you are using. (Anonymous monkeys like you don't need no PC). Wlod
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Date: 22 Dec 2007 01:18:29
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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On Dec 21, 10:14 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected] > wrote: > On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > > mental institutions and posting from there. > > _ > On Dec 21, 9:22 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES > > > Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous. > > _ > Does Larry Parr feel that way about jr? Mr. Parr has mentioned or quoted Larry Evans as reading these newsgroups, and apparently, on occasion dipping his toes in by making the occasional post, either directly or through an intermediary. It seems obvious that when a random "supporter" -- if mindless dregs can be so described -- comes along, Mr. Parr welcomes him with open arms, anon. or not; and three minutes later, while in the middle of an attack on some anonymous critic, it becomes apparent to everyone else that Mr. Parr has just skewered his own man, the titanic hypocrisy screams out for an apology... which never comes. As I've noted before, these frequent /internal inconsistencies/ are the hallk of a confused mind. This confusion explains how an otherwise perfectly-sane person can readily "adopt" anon. supporters, while at the same time hating and fearing anons; how an otherwise perfectly-sane person can feign offense at a miscalculation by Taylor Kingston, but at the same time accept and support invented ratings and titles by his own underling. It explains Mr. Parr's tendency to /project/ jealousies and fears, his fixation on cowardice, and it even sheds light on why Mr. Sloan is always the preferred defender of the pack (over nearly-an-IM Innes). For those who may not recall, "jr" is the moniker of an infrequent poster who parroted Mr. Parr's opinions some time back. When attacked for his anonymity, he, like many critics of the Evans ratpack, remained silent. One could assume that "jr" was just a fake name created by Mr. Parr to -- as he likes to put it -- lend /heft/ to his quirky opinions; others might just figure that "jr" was an associate of Larry Evans, or perhaps the five-time U.S. champ himself. But these anon. "hefties" appear to do Mr. Parr a grave disservice, by calling attention to his many titanic hypocrisies, in the same way that nearly-an-IM Innes has done. Mr. Anonymous at top seems to feel that posters like Sam Sloan and nearly-Innes are nuisances. I find it amusing that someone with such a "messy life" as SS would want to air every sordid detail in public, just to garner more attention. As for nearly-Innes, he seems to fit perfectly the mold posted here recently, where a definition of "kook" or internet.kook was described in some detail. Are "kooks" mere nuisances? Or do they serve a valuable entertainment function as well. -- help bot
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Date: 21 Dec 2007 19:14:08
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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On Dec 21, 8:52 am, Anonymous <[email protected] > wrote: > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > mental institutions and posting from there. _ On Dec 21, 9:22=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES > > Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous. _ Does Larry Parr feel that way about jr?
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Date: 21 Dec 2007 17:27:30
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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On Dec 21, 12:22 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote: > Anonymous wrote: > > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > > mental institutions and posting from there. I have to say that now, I am beginning to understand why IM Innes is paid so little for his "protection services"; indeed, when one's guard dog must in turn be "defended" so often, it would not be fair to pretend that is not a service rendered in-kind. It's like many of my chess games, where an error by my opponent is canceled out by an error in return, netting little advantage for either side. Tit-for-tat. As for Anonymous, I have my suspicions as to his "secret" identity (if indeed, he is but one person). And I find it interesting that LP feels compelled to ignore the issue raised by him, and chooses to posit cowardice as motive for his/her not posting under any real name (as if Parrthenium were a real name). This is hardly the first time that such issues have deliberately been skirted by Larry Parr; indeed, he makes a habit of ignoring the tough questions, of skirting issues he cannot deal with because they challenge his preconceptions; LP is the poster-boy for duck and weave tactics, for Skip-ping past challenges and inconsistencies, in favor of easier activities like name-calling or his typical ad hominem claptrap. There was a clue in there, somewhere, BTW. In fact, the whole spiel at the top regarding mental institutions is another clue; but it is not the American taxpayers who suffer; it is those of our neighbors to the north. Drugs are the answer; look at what they've done for one poster, who now is (barely) able to refrain from posting profanities. But the cost! Just one of Skip's chill-pills can cost as much as five cannucks, which adds up over time... . Alas, if one were to weigh in the actions, not the words of certain posters, cowardice would indeed come to the forefront. Avoiding simple, reasonable questions like those from Louis Blair, for instance. Dr. Blair quite reasonably asked Mr. Parr to tell us who his "backers" were, the ones he claimed had, like him, written certain stuff which was backed up by these "others", in terms of numbers, or presumed agreement of opinion. No answer from Mr. Parr; not even after months and months of honest inquiry. Cowardice indeed; an intellectual cowardice, an inability to admit error or back up one's own contentions. As Anon wrote above-- sad. But hey, the man supports himself, and by golly, he even feeds monkeys on occasion. LOL -- help bot
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Date: 21 Dec 2007 09:22:50
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Just who are Sam Sloan and Phil Innes anyway?
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EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous. Anonymous wrote: > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > mental institutions and posting from there.
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Date: 22 Dec 2007 21:08:54
From: Anonymous Coward
Subject: EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES Are cowards who post here anonymously
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In article <[email protected]. com >, [email protected] wrote: > EVEN BIGGER NUISANCES > > Are cowards who post here anonymously -- like Anonymous. > > Anonymous wrote: > > Apparently, guys who wants to be famous for...being a nuisance > > in newsgroups. Sad, really. I just hope they can support > > themselves and aren't costing taxpayers money by holing up in > > mental institutions and posting from there. Response, encourage more abuses. You may not be knowing that noise from your chess froups spilt over in to anonymous-sender.com, alt.privacy.anon-server, the anonposting forums ect. Probably not one Anonymous but many anons [besides me, who suscribed to see what its about] are now making their 'contributions'. Troll traffic in apa-s and asp has fallen since 2 months. They moved to rgcp/m? Please keep them, asp doesnt need them back delivering their payload. :) Most webanon service afaik allow posting to only one froup, no xpost. If you email the admin of cotse.net [Lance, who does permit xposts via his mixnews.php] anonymous-sender.com and max 1-2 others you can google they may shut off post access to your froups for a time. Asskiss and email full headers of obscene or illegal posts and you may get the senders IPs fwiw as it is a breach of the webanon TOS. What ever is the disclaimer in headers, tracing webanons is no problem for the admin because the message was submitted in cleartext and proxy access to webanon sites are blocked. Pseudonymous posts emailed direct to m2n usually use generics (Orwell, Anonymous*, Remailer*, Wuehler,..) and always have a no-archive setting. These too, whether emailed encrypted to the m2n key or in clear, have an IP on the original email and are traced by asking the m2n's abuse-address. Some add a X-NNTP-Posting-Host header with the IP or fragment if the post is abusive. Some times a real anon adds this with special softwares for to give misdirection. There are more anonymous technique but most/all your trolls are not using them. I am, you can see in the postal headers. Merry Christmas. ___ ___ ___ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /:/ / /::\ / /::\ / /:/ / /:/\:\ / /:/\:\ /__/:/ /\ / /::\ \:\ / /::\ \:\ \ \:\ /:/ /__/:/\:\ \:\ /__/:/\:\ \:\ \ \:\/:/ \__\/ \:\_\/ \__\/ \:\_\/ \ \::/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ -=- Usenet's Freedom Fighters -=- Liberty, Honor and Justice For ALL Don't Be a Thumpster...and DON'T LET THEM THUMPS YOU! -=- "Since Start" -=-
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