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Date: 26 Mar 2008 06:10:31
From: The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
Subject: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
means a spoof.

NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?

That is not the shocking part of the news, though.

The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
phoning 212 349 6006.

The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
helps, but he won't answer his extension.

- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor





 
Date: 27 Mar 2008 15:43:12
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 1:10=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
<[email protected] > wrote:
> I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> means a spoof.
>
> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?

What do you think of cus' claim that he thinks Susan Polgar has
nuclear attack codes in her apartment?

Jerry Spinrad
>
> That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
>
> The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> phoning 212 349 6006.
>
> The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> helps, but he won't answer his extension.
>
> =A0- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



  
Date: 31 Mar 2008 16:06:31
From: Rob
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 31, 4:01 pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> Sorry, I meant to ask how many messages from are meant to be taken
> seriously. From his new escalation, I presume none of them, which
> makes him a bit of a waste of space but fortunately harmless. I still
> don't understand these as Sloan parodies. Sloan writes coherently even
> in those cases when he misses his target, while the cus W Roberts
> posts could not strike anyone viewing them for the first time as
> remotely plausible. I can't accept them as Sloan parodies, but as long
> as they are pure humor I appreciate them for their own bizarreness.
>
> Jerry Spinrad
>
> On 31, 3:05 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 30, 10:50 am, "[email protected]"
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 29, 10:55 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> > > > > On 26, 1:10=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > > > > > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > > > > > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > > > > > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse
> > > > > What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar
> > > > > has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?
>
> > > > You didn't know that cus and Sam have definitely met in person?
> > > > That what Sam may well suffer from may well be contagious?
> > > > Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
> > > > eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
> > > > Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believe
> > > > that Susan has the attack keys. cus was parodying Sam's accusations.
>
> > > Are you saying, then, that ALL the cus W Roberts posts are
> > > parodies? The whole Kirsan/St Kitts+Nevis bizarre, exaggerated
> > > stories? I hope you are right, and that these are simply astonishly
> > > poor attempt at parody - so poor that no one associated them with Sam
> > > Sloan, and that do not seem anything like the (in their own way
> > > bizarre) postings of Sam Sloan? Are there any cus W Roberts posts
> > > we should believe are actually written by him?
>
> > > Jerry Spinrad
>
> > > > - The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Maybe they all were but they were his attempt at a Sloan parody.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

They are bizarre!


  
Date: 31 Mar 2008 14:01:24
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
Sorry, I meant to ask how many messages from are meant to be taken
seriously. From his new escalation, I presume none of them, which
makes him a bit of a waste of space but fortunately harmless. I still
don't understand these as Sloan parodies. Sloan writes coherently even
in those cases when he misses his target, while the cus W Roberts
posts could not strike anyone viewing them for the first time as
remotely plausible. I can't accept them as Sloan parodies, but as long
as they are pure humor I appreciate them for their own bizarreness.

Jerry Spinrad

On 31, 3:05=A0pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 30, 10:50=A0am, "[email protected]"
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 29, 10:55=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> > > > On 26, 1:10=3DA0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Fact=
or
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > > > > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > > > > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > > > > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse
> > > > What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar=

> > > > has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?
>
> > > You didn't know that cus and Sam have definitely met in person?
> > > That what Sam may well suffer from may well be contagious?
> > > Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
> > > eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
> > > Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believ=
e
> > > that Susan has the attack keys. cus was parodying Sam's accusations=
.
>
> > Are you saying, then, that ALL the cus W Roberts posts are
> > parodies? The whole Kirsan/St Kitts+Nevis bizarre, exaggerated
> > stories? I hope you are right, and that these are simply astonishly
> > poor attempt at parody - so poor that no one associated them with Sam
> > Sloan, and that do not seem anything like the (in their own way
> > bizarre) postings of Sam Sloan? Are there any cus W Roberts posts
> > we should believe are actually written by him?
>
> > Jerry Spinrad
>
> > > =A0- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor- Hide quoted text =
-
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Maybe they all were but they were his attempt at a Sloan parody.- Hide quo=
ted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



  
Date: 31 Mar 2008 13:05:52
From: Rob
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 30, 10:50=A0am, "[email protected]"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> On 29, 10:55=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> > > On 26, 1:10=3DA0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor=

> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > > > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > > > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > > > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse
> > > What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar
> > > has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?
>
> > You didn't know that cus and Sam have definitely met in person?
> > That what Sam may well suffer from may well be contagious?
> > Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
> > eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
> > Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believe
> > that Susan has the attack keys. cus was parodying Sam's accusations.
>
> Are you saying, then, that ALL the cus W Roberts posts are
> parodies? The whole Kirsan/St Kitts+Nevis bizarre, exaggerated
> stories? I hope you are right, and that these are simply astonishly
> poor attempt at parody - so poor that no one associated them with Sam
> Sloan, and that do not seem anything like the (in their own way
> bizarre) postings of Sam Sloan? Are there any cus W Roberts posts
> we should believe are actually written by him?
>
> Jerry Spinrad
>
>
>
>
>
> > =A0- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Maybe they all were but they were his attempt at a Sloan parody.


  
Date: 30 Mar 2008 08:50:25
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 29, 10:55=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
<[email protected] > wrote:
> Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> > On 26, 1:10=3DA0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse
> > What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar
> > has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?
>
> You didn't know that cus and Sam have definitely met in person?
> That what Sam may well suffer from may well be contagious?
> Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
> eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
> Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believe
> that Susan has the attack keys. cus was parodying Sam's accusations.

Are you saying, then, that ALL the cus W Roberts posts are
parodies? The whole Kirsan/St Kitts+Nevis bizarre, exaggerated
stories? I hope you are right, and that these are simply astonishly
poor attempt at parody - so poor that no one associated them with Sam
Sloan, and that do not seem anything like the (in their own way
bizarre) postings of Sam Sloan? Are there any cus W Roberts posts
we should believe are actually written by him?

Jerry Spinrad

>
> =A0- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



  
Date: 30 Mar 2008 06:10:03
From: Rob
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 29, 3:37 pm, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
<[email protected] > wrote:
> Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> > On 26, 1:10=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse
> > What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar
> > has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?
>
> You didn't know that cus and Sam have met?
> That what Sam suffers from may be contagious?
> Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
> eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
> Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believe
> that Susan has the attack keys. He was parodying Sam's accusations.
>
> - The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor

Ah, Good parody.


  
Date: 29 Mar 2008 20:37:09
From: The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> On 26, 1:10=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> <[email protected]> wrote:

> > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse

> What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar
> has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?

You didn't know that cus and Sam have met?
That what Sam suffers from may be contagious?
Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believe
that Susan has the attack keys. He was parodying Sam's accusations.

- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



  
Date: 29 Mar 2008 15:55:04
From: The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
Jeremy P. Spinrad wrote:
> On 26, 1:10=A0am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> <[email protected]> wrote:

> > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse

> What do you think of cus for claiming that he thinks Susan Polgar
> has nuclear attack codes in her apartment?

You didn't know that cus and Sam have definitely met in person?
That what Sam may well suffer from may well be contagious?
Or, what did Sam slipped onto cus's plate while cus was busy
eyeballing others to check if Kirsan's men had infiltrated the diner?
Lastly, I have spoken with cus and can confirm that does not believe
that Susan has the attack keys. cus was parodying Sam's accusations.

- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 18:47:55
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
>What do you think of cus' claim that
>he thinks Susan Polgar has
>nuclear attack codes in her apartment?

Parody?

(I hope).





 
Date: 27 Mar 2008 08:41:29
From: Adam Beneschan
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 5:37 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> If Sam was locked up for a week, they must have run a thorough check
> of his cranial short-circuitry. I'd like to see the final report with
> all the details of Sam's psychological disfunctions. It should be made
> public and posted on the internet in the interests of all the people
> Sam has jihadded on and off the internet. You don't legally detain
> someone for a week unless you have great reasons and Sam's website is
> enough reason for anyone. They let murderers out of jail so why not
> Sam, too. The criminals are running NY anyway.
>
> On 26, 2:10 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> > means a spoof.
>
> > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>
> > That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
>
> > The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> > after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> > phoning 212 349 6006.
>
> > The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> > He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> > way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> > helps, but he won't answer his extension.
>
> > - The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor

Sounds like you chess people are having a good ol' time here seeing
who can be the most creative at insulting one of your own. Could you
please remove rec.games.bridge from the newsgroup line while doing so,
as a courtesy to us rgb'ers who aren't in on what appears to be a long-
running competition? Thank you, I appreciate it.

-- Adam




 
Date: 27 Mar 2008 06:41:33
From: Rob
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 27, 8:26=A0am, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:c1f14135-cdd3-4243-8a4b-e3b9796bc004@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Usually they are just found not to be a current threat to themselves
> > or others... IE they are Not presently at the time of the interview
> > exibiting signs of being sucidal or homicidal. It does not imply they
> > are "sane" by any clinical definition.
>
> You might struggle to find a clinical definition of 'sane' at all, and sta=
rt
> an inter-shrink war by bringing it us [which might be fun, but I digress].=

>
> The concept here is the legal definition of compos mentis.
>
> Phil Innes

Quite right. Personal medical records are very distasteful. How odd it
is that Sloan was the first to make public the medical records of a
USCF employee?

Taking your suggestion; here is what Wikipedia says:
"In United States criminal law, insanity may serve as an affirmative
defense to criminal acts and thus does not need to negate an element
of the prosecution's case such as general or specific intent.[4] The
states differ somewhat in their definition of insanity but most follow
the guidelines of the Model Penal Code. All jurisdictions require a
sanity evaluation to address the question first of whether or not the
defendant has a mental illness. Most courts accept a major mental
illness such as psychosis but will not accept the diagnosis of a
personality disorder for the purposes of an insanity defense. The
second question is whether the mental illness interfered with the
defendant's ability to distinguish right from wrong. That is, did the
defendant know that the alleged behavior was against the law at the
time the offense was committed. Additionally, some jurisdictions add
the question of whether or not the defendant was in control of his
behavior at the time of the offense. For example, if the defendant
compelled by some aspect of his mental illness to commit the illegal
act, the defendant could be evaluated as not in control of his
behavior at the time of the offense. The forensic mental health
specialists submit their evaluations to the court. Since the question
of sanity or insanity is a legal question and not a medical one, the
judge and or jury will make the final decision regarding the
defendant's status regarding an insanity defense.[5][6]

In most jurisdictions within the United States, if the insanity plea
is accepted, the defendant is committed to a psychiatric institution
for at least 60 days for further evaluation, and then reevaluated at
least yearly after that."

US Legal say this about competency:

"Due process requires that a defendant be competent to stand trial,
which includes capacity to assist counsel and to understand the nature
of the proceeding sufficiently to participate in and make decisions
about rights afforded to defendants.

There are several acceptable approaches for performance of competency
to stand trial evaluations including standardized methods such as
state competency tests. Traditionally, a full-fledged assessment
involves a clinical interview, a mental status exam, a psychological
test, and a social history, but the modern trend is to rely upon an
interview and/or a psychological test. There are a number of
psychological tests available in standardized and local variations.
Many evaluators use clinical measures of personality and intelligence,
such as thestandardized test MMPI-2"

Rob( Which-Mitch)




 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 22:51:24
From: Rob
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 8:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote:
> p944dc wrote:
> > On 26, 6:13 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
>
> >>> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> >>> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> >>> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> >>> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
> >> IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
> >> determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.
>
> > Wait just a sec... I can't recall any instance where a person was
> > ordered HELD in a facility for a 730 evaluation. Typically, a 730
> > eval consists of psychiatric interviews of the principles in a custody
> > case, and sometimes will include home visits to evaluate a child's
> > environment. That is all a 730 is, though it is often traumatic for
> > the family involved. If Sloan was admitted to a facility against his
> > will by a judge then it is very doubtful this had anything to do with
> > a 730 eval being ordered UNLESS the interviewer observed that Sloan
> > was a danger to himself or others.
>
> My error of sorts. 730 is in the Criminal Procedure Law and relates
> examination of persons charged with crimes to stand trial. If the
> accused is not fit, he may be held pursuant to court order. Perhaps the
> judge was trying to act under Article 9 of the Mental Hygiene Law. Ask
> Sloan what the judges order said. The central point is that Sloan was
> examined and found quite fit to live as a free man.

Usually they are just found not to be a current threat to themselves
or others... IE they are Not presently at the time of the interview
exibiting signs of being sucidal or homicidal. It does not imply they
are "sane" by any clinical definition.


  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 12:56:21
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
> Usually they are just found not to be a current threat to themselves
> or others... IE they are Not presently at the time of the interview
> exibiting signs of being sucidal or homicidal. It does not imply they
> are "sane" by any clinical definition.

Sane means knowing right from wrong.

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to live free.

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Date: 27 Mar 2008 09:26:36
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!

"Rob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:c1f14135-cdd3-4243-8a4b-e3b9796bc004@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

> Usually they are just found not to be a current threat to themselves
> or others... IE they are Not presently at the time of the interview
> exibiting signs of being sucidal or homicidal. It does not imply they
> are "sane" by any clinical definition.

You might struggle to find a clinical definition of 'sane' at all, and start
an inter-shrink war by bringing it us [which might be fun, but I digress].

The concept here is the legal definition of compos mentis.

Phil Innes




  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:22:32
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
Rob wrote:
> On 26, 8:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> p944dc wrote:
>>> On 26, 6:13 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
>>>>> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
>>>>> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
>>>>> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
>>>>> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>>>> IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
>>>> determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.
>>> Wait just a sec... I can't recall any instance where a person was
>>> ordered HELD in a facility for a 730 evaluation. Typically, a 730
>>> eval consists of psychiatric interviews of the principles in a custody
>>> case, and sometimes will include home visits to evaluate a child's
>>> environment. That is all a 730 is, though it is often traumatic for
>>> the family involved. If Sloan was admitted to a facility against his
>>> will by a judge then it is very doubtful this had anything to do with
>>> a 730 eval being ordered UNLESS the interviewer observed that Sloan
>>> was a danger to himself or others.
>> My error of sorts. 730 is in the Criminal Procedure Law and relates
>> examination of persons charged with crimes to stand trial. If the
>> accused is not fit, he may be held pursuant to court order. Perhaps the
>> judge was trying to act under Article 9 of the Mental Hygiene Law. Ask
>> Sloan what the judges order said. The central point is that Sloan was
>> examined and found quite fit to live as a free man.
>
> Usually they are just found not to be a current threat to themselves
> or others... IE they are Not presently at the time of the interview
> exibiting signs of being sucidal or homicidal. It does not imply they
> are "sane" by any clinical definition.

Back in the mid-1980s I had two clients, both delusional, who went
through initial 730 screenings. The basic extent of determining
competency to stand trial was that they understood what the prosecutor
was trying to do and what the function of the jury was. Easy for even a
psychotic to answer under most circumstances. Trying to prepare for
trial with someone who claims he is the world's greatest lay Catholic
with a red phone hot line to the Pope is not easy. And why did he walk
up to that woman in Bryant Park at lunch time and, unprovoked, hit her
in the side of the head with an empty soda can? Because, "She was a
social climbing Jewess who I could smell from three blocks away." But
he was OK to stand trial. :-)


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 17:59:22
From: p944dc
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 6:13 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote:
> The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
>
> > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>
> IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
> determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.


Wait just a sec... I can't recall any instance where a person was
ordered HELD in a facility for a 730 evaluation. Typically, a 730
eval consists of psychiatric interviews of the principles in a custody
case, and sometimes will include home visits to evaluate a child's
environment. That is all a 730 is, though it is often traumatic for
the family involved. If Sloan was admitted to a facility against his
will by a judge then it is very doubtful this had anything to do with
a 730 eval being ordered UNLESS the interviewer observed that Sloan
was a danger to himself or others.


  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 09:22:30
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
I don't like Sam Sloan.

On the other hand, I dislike even more people who negatively speculate ad
hominem on people with names and with public records, even though Sloan
sometimes does this himself.

That doesn't make Sloan right, and by exactly the same measure, anyone else
either.

It is no shame to undergo psychiatric evaluation, especially as an enforced
and pro-forma adjunct procedure to legal affairs. It is shameful to
criticize those with names when you can't own your own.

Phil Innes


"p944dc" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 26, 6:13 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
>>
>> > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
>> > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
>> > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
>> > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>>
>> IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
>> determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.
>
>
> Wait just a sec... I can't recall any instance where a person was
> ordered HELD in a facility for a 730 evaluation. Typically, a 730
> eval consists of psychiatric interviews of the principles in a custody
> case, and sometimes will include home visits to evaluate a child's
> environment. That is all a 730 is, though it is often traumatic for
> the family involved. If Sloan was admitted to a facility against his
> will by a judge then it is very doubtful this had anything to do with
> a 730 eval being ordered UNLESS the interviewer observed that Sloan
> was a danger to himself or others.




  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 01:25:39
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
p944dc wrote:
> On 26, 6:13 am, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
>>
>>> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
>>> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
>>> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
>>> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>> IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
>> determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.
>
>
> Wait just a sec... I can't recall any instance where a person was
> ordered HELD in a facility for a 730 evaluation. Typically, a 730
> eval consists of psychiatric interviews of the principles in a custody
> case, and sometimes will include home visits to evaluate a child's
> environment. That is all a 730 is, though it is often traumatic for
> the family involved. If Sloan was admitted to a facility against his
> will by a judge then it is very doubtful this had anything to do with
> a 730 eval being ordered UNLESS the interviewer observed that Sloan
> was a danger to himself or others.

My error of sorts. 730 is in the Criminal Procedure Law and relates
examination of persons charged with crimes to stand trial. If the
accused is not fit, he may be held pursuant to court order. Perhaps the
judge was trying to act under Article 9 of the Mental Hygiene Law. Ask
Sloan what the judges order said. The central point is that Sloan was
examined and found quite fit to live as a free man.


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 17:37:11
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
If Sam was locked up for a week, they must have run a thorough check
of his cranial short-circuitry. I'd like to see the final report with
all the details of Sam's psychological disfunctions. It should be made
public and posted on the internet in the interests of all the people
Sam has jihadded on and off the internet. You don't legally detain
someone for a week unless you have great reasons and Sam's website is
enough reason for anyone. They let murderers out of jail so why not
Sam, too. The criminals are running NY anyway.

On 26, 2:10 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
<[email protected] > wrote:
> I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> means a spoof.
>
> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>
> That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
>
> The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> phoning 212 349 6006.
>
> The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> helps, but he won't answer his extension.
>
> - The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 15:04:28
From: Rob
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 4:00=A0pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> Brian Lafferty wrote:
> >IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
> >determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.
>
> That's setting the bar rather low, don't you think? :)

lol


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 08:04:57
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 10:00=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On 26, 9:38=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES
>
> > =A0<That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> > you were editor.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> > Cite the issue and page number showing the 2300+ Elo rating for Taylor
> > Kingston.
>
> =A0 April 1986, Larry, as has been posted here many times. In the postal
> rating section.

A correction: It was April 1985, page 36.

> You can find it easily because the pages are yellow.
> You will find me at #45 in the Postal Master list, with a Harkness
> rating of 1806. I originally thought that converted to a 2300+ Elo,
> but found out a bit later that it was more like 2250. So I no longer
> claim 2300+, but as I said in my first post on this subject, I was a
> tad better than "weak."
>
> =A0 While we're asking for specifics, please tell us, if you can, what
> Chinese chess organization ratified Sam Sloan as its world champion,
> as he claims to have been about one minute into this speech:
>
> =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqAON2vgw1kc



 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 07:00:43
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 9:38=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES
>
> =A0<That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> you were editor.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> Cite the issue and page number showing the 2300+ Elo rating for Taylor
> Kingston.

April 1986, Larry, as has been posted here many times. In the postal
rating section. You can find it easily because the pages are yellow.
You will find me at #45 in the Postal Master list, with a Harkness
rating of 1806. I originally thought that converted to a 2300+ Elo,
but found out a bit later that it was more like 2250. So I no longer
claim 2300+, but as I said in my first post on this subject, I was a
tad better than "weak."

While we're asking for specifics, please tell us, if you can, what
Chinese chess organization ratified Sam Sloan as its world champion,
as he claims to have been about one minute into this speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqAON2vgw1kc



 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 06:38:09
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES

<That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
you were editor. > -- Taylor Kingston

Cite the issue and page number showing the 2300+ Elo rating for Taylor
Kingston.

[email protected] wrote:
> On 26, 9:29?am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > THE POT AND THE KETTLE
> >
> > <He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> > title World Champion of Chinese Chess.> -- Taylor Kingston
> >
> > Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+ Elo.
>
> That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> you were editor.


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 06:32:03
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 9:29=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> THE POT AND THE KETTLE
>
> <He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> title World Champion of Chinese Chess.> -- Taylor Kingston
>
> Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+ Elo.

That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
you were editor.


  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 14:47:32
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 27, 5:00=A0pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> =A0 Meanwhile, please be so kind as to give us your excuse for Sam
> Sloan's claim to have been World Champion of Chinese Chess --
>
> **a far diversion, and how telling that is, Kingston! Try being human,

Try being accurate, Phil. I asked about Sloan's Chinese chess claim
well *_before_* Parr joined this thread. And Bill Brock put this same
question to Parr months ago, but Larry never responded. The diversion
attempt is Parr's, not mine. Larry always dodges embarrassing
questions.
Our Larry dare not publicly face the fact that his pet useful idiot,
Sloan, can't tell fantasy from reality and habitually talks through
his hat, especially about himself. Rather than take a stand on Sloan's
Chinese chess mendacity, he goes back to flogging the dead horse of my
1985 rating.

Sams claims, about one minute into this speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqAON2vgw1kc

to have been World Champion of Chines chess. This exceeds in delusion
even your claim, Phil, to have been "nearly an IM with a rating of
2450." Parr has already contrived tortured, absurd excuses for Sloan's
racism, sexual obsessions, and felonious conduct. I'd like to hear
what bullshit he comes up with this time.


   
Date: 28 Mar 2008 06:42:53
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:b9e68408-12e6-4fd5-8f06-27c547ec8a29@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On 27, 5:00 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Meanwhile, please be so kind as to give us your excuse for Sam
> Sloan's claim to have been World Champion of Chinese Chess --
>
> **a far diversion, and how telling that is, Kingston! Try being human,

Try being accurate, Phil. I asked about Sloan's Chinese chess claim
well *_before_* Parr joined this thread. And Bill Brock put this same
question to Parr months ago, but Larry never responded. The diversion
attempt is Parr's, not mine. Larry always dodges embarrassing
questions.

**Seems like Sam Sloan has readily answered for himself! Though why other
people should be asked when the Prime Suspect is present, is, to quote Sam
Sloan himself, 'unclear'. I don't know if Sam Sloan himself abbreviated his
title, so that it appears that he was world champion, but whoever did it, it
now seems like he was awarded a title for a non-Chinese player. If you want
to get the Sloan surely there are plenty of real things to go after, rather
than having to invent lies for him - which is to say, to via strawman
supposition, create a scape-Sloan [see note below].

Our Larry dare not publicly face the fact that his pet useful idiot,
Sloan, can't tell fantasy from reality and habitually talks through
his hat, especially about himself. Rather than take a stand on Sloan's
Chinese chess mendacity, he goes back to flogging the dead horse of my
1985 rating.

**I don't know about those mixed metaphors - does the hat belong to Sam
Sloan or the fantasy flogger? And who is talking though it, the dead horse?
These things, despite your attempted explanation, remain unclear...

Sams claims, about one minute into this speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAON2vgw1kc

to have been World Champion of Chines chess. This exceeds in delusion
even your claim, Phil, to have been "nearly an IM with a rating of
2450."

**That is no quote of mine, Taylor, that's a Brennanization, like 'Old
English is dead'. Sadly I can't do any better than to draw with 2350 players
these days, not like then! What Brennan doesn't get, and I discussed the
same thing with Tim Hanke, is the rekable stimulating effect on your
chess and your whole being of having a good girl friend with very long legs.
[Its also stimulating to the mind if she is a German Psychology student] But
how would Brennan know of these things - and how would he ever fit into a VW
super-beetle? You can keep Your System and I'll Keep mine ;)

Parr has already contrived tortured, absurd excuses for Sloan's
racism, sexual obsessions, and felonious conduct. I'd like to hear
what bullshit he comes up with this time.

**John Adams is currently on the TV. Larry Parr seems to have the same
opinion as Adams about the liberties of conscience available to citizens of
the republic. Or at least which used to be available. As above, if you want
to 'get' someone, its not necessary to git out the posse and do a lil bit
'western justice'. Better to [a] characterize actual faults, which in this
instance is a form of grandstanding egotism which often occludes his lights,
and [b] re-read Scarlet Letter, since Hawthorn, like Adams and Parr, had
opinions on the value of 'les autres'.

Cordially, Phil Innes
[ps: heavy morning snow here]




  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 12:18:55
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 27, 2:52=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> ANON BACKS TAYLOR KINGSTON'S BALDFACED LIE
>
> Under a separate header, so as not to confuse the issue,

That's rich -- Larry Parr not confusing an issue!

> I shall soon
> analyze the magic math of Mr. 2300+ Elo.

Larry, you've been flogging this dead horse for years. Your smear
has been refuted countless times, yet you keep repeating it, to what
purpose who knows. You're a broken record no one listens to. You and
Sloan are alone in the "lie" claim. Everyone else knows that I
reported a fact. But of course, in Parr's Distorted Dictionary, a lie
is defined as: "A fact that annoys Larry Parr."

Meanwhile, please be so kind as to give us your excuse for Sam
Sloan's claim to have been World Champion of Chinese Chess -- a far
greater falsehood than anything I may have said about my chess
prowess. As usual when your pet fool makes a false claim, you are
remaining silent.

> > > <He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> > > title World Champion of Chinese Chess.> -- Taylor Kingston

> > > Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+ Elo. =
-- Larry Parr

> > =A0 That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> > you were editor.

>
> "Touche", TK. Our memories are a curse to "douches" like Liarry.. --T
> he Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



   
Date: 27 Mar 2008 17:00:54
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 27, 2:52 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected] > wrote:
> ANON BACKS TAYLOR KINGSTON'S BALDFACED LIE
>
> Under a separate header, so as not to confuse the issue,

That's rich -- Larry Parr not confusing an issue!

> I shall soon
> analyze the magic math of Mr. 2300+ Elo.

Larry, you've been flogging this dead horse for years. Your smear
has been refuted countless times, yet you keep repeating it, to what
purpose who knows. You're a broken record no one listens to. You and
Sloan are alone in the "lie" claim. Everyone else knows that I
reported a fact. But of course, in Parr's Distorted Dictionary, a lie
is defined as: "A fact that annoys Larry Parr."


**Such a passionate response! It is not refuted, it is amplified ~ and all
that was ever necessary was to admit a bit of loose writing on you rown part
on usenet! Not have two one-issue anon newbies show up to do it for you. Is
that bloody strange or not?

**And also admit that the circumstance or context was that you intended to
challenge a GM from your proposed chess knowledge.

**I don't think you reported a 'fact' about your Elo rating. I think you
needed to boost your chess credentials to oppose Larry Evans', and you
succumbed to a certain cupidity. Denying it is not to refute it, since I
have personaly found no one at all who thinks talking Elo is talking postal.
And who actually knows if #45 in the country in, is it 1975? is OTB or
postal? No one has asserted an answer to that either.

Meanwhile, please be so kind as to give us your excuse for Sam
Sloan's claim to have been World Champion of Chinese Chess -- a far

**a far diversion, and how telling that is, Kingston! Try being human,
otherwise others will get you for it, just like the facetious complainer
Winter, who whines about other's standards he himself cannot perform.

Phil Innes




greater falsehood than anything I may have said about my chess
prowess. As usual when your pet fool makes a false claim, you are
remaining silent.

> > > <He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> > > title World Champion of Chinese Chess.> -- Taylor Kingston

> > > Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+
> > > Elo. -- Larry Parr

> > That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> > you were editor.

>
> "Touche", TK. Our memories are a curse to "douches" like Liarry.. --T
> he Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor




  
Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:52:44
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
ANON BACKS TAYLOR KINGSTON'S BALDFACED LIE

Under a separate header, so as not to confuse the issue, I shall soon
analyze the magic math of Mr. 2300+ Elo.

Taylor Kingston wrote:
> On 26, 9:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > THE POT AND THE KETTLE

> > <He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> > title World Champion of Chinese Chess.> -- Taylor Kingston

> > Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+ Elo.

> That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> you were editor.

"Touche", TK. Our memories are a curse to "douches" like Liarry.. --T
he Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor



  
Date: 26 Mar 2008 19:30:30
From: The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
Taylor Kingston wrote:
> On 26, 9:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > THE POT AND THE KETTLE
> >
> > <He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> > title World Champion of Chinese Chess.> -- Taylor Kingston
> >
> > Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+ Elo.
>
> That would be the USCF, Larry. It was published in Chess Life while
> you were editor.

"Touche", TK. Our memories are a curse to "douches" like Liarry.

But to clarify, my princely title has as much legitimacy and more pedigree
than the online chess rating of Mr. Mig Greengard (a.k.a., or so I read**,
[email protected], an anonymuss who published the despicable lie
that Mr. Bachler has been jailed for raping a 12 yr old boy - and who also
published what can only be interpreted as a death threat against S/P ).

Subject: Crossville, TN
Date: 16 Oct 2007 21:14:49 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.9.84.146
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics
From: [email protected]
<<<quote >>>
"A Kia can't make it directly to Crossville, TN on November 3rd and
4th... I can't bring my tools on the plane... We'll meet my good
friends and give them a warm welcome. Paul Truong, Vietnamese, age
42, and Susan Polgar, Hungarian Jew, age 38. They will be staying at
421 S Main St. Many will brings ... to shoot them."
<<</quote >>>

Mig's online rating mysteriously leaped from the mediocre to the downright
astounding (about GM level) in a matter of a few weeks, during the time
he was working with Kasparov's organization. What a superb example of the
efficacy of their teaching! For we know that Mig is an honorable man, and
would never cheat, either with a computer or having one of his colleague
GMs play some online games under his name. For a migagenius like Mig, to
gain 500 rating points in several months is possible.

** So it goes without saying that Mr. Greengard can't be responsible for
the libel about the caveman, the death threat against the board members or
any of the other material that Mr. Laugherty may have found Laughworthy.

Whatever next? A proof that the original dirty anons Heywood Jablowme
([email protected]) and Internal Bleach ([email protected]) were indeed
Mr. Lafferty? Of course not, that is unthinkable, for just like Mr.
Greengard, Mr. Lafferty is an honorable man.

With so many honorable men around, no wonder chess here is thriving.

I'm as sure of all that as I am sure of my own name below.

- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor

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Received: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: LAFFERTY re: Kevin Bachler charged with Sexual Assault and
Child Porno
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"Bob Bennett" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The war by the forger and criminal [email protected] who is the
> person who patsied Paul Truong has begun. He has switched on the HIP CRIME
> newsagent to flood this bulletin board with noise posts apparently coming
> from real posters with real headers but fake dates and messages.
> Below I present some evidence that this vandal
> [email protected] is none other than Brian Lafferty.
> Let him dare to deny it under oath.
ROTFL! I'd be happy to as I'm not ChessterMolester. I have a good
idea of who he is.................:-)



 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 06:29:25
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
THE POT AND THE KETTLE

<He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
title World Champion of Chinese Chess. > -- Taylor Kingston

Or from the same organization that awarded Taylor Kingston 2300+ Elo.



[email protected] wrote:
> On 26, 2:43?am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 26, 2:10 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> > > means a spoof.
> >
> > > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
> >
> > > That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
> >
> > > The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> > > after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> > > phoning 212 349 6006.
> >
> > > The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> > > He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> > > way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> > > helps, but he won't answer his extension.
> >
> > > ?- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
> >
> > ? You sir, are an impostor; I demand that
> > you prove you are the *real* FCPOUF
> > by naming the three prior princes, as
> > only the /real/ FCPOUF could possibly
> > do this.
>
> He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
> title World Champion of Chinese Chess.


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 05:34:25
From:
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 2:43=A0am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 26, 2:10 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> > means a spoof.
>
> > NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> > 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> > Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> > never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>
> > That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
>
> > The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> > after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> > phoning 212 349 6006.
>
> > The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> > He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> > way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> > helps, but he won't answer his extension.
>
> > =A0- The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
> =A0 You sir, are an impostor; I demand that
> you prove you are the *real* FCPOUF
> by naming the three prior princes, as
> only the /real/ FCPOUF could possibly
> do this.

He got that title from the same organization that gave Sam Sloan the
title World Champion of Chinese Chess.


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 11:13:28
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
> I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> means a spoof.
>
> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>
> That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
>
> The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> phoning 212 349 6006.
>
> The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> helps, but he won't answer his extension.
>
> - The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
>
IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.
The circumstances of his being ordered held were highly questionable.
Had Mr. Sloan filed a complaint with the judicial commission the judge
might well have been sanctioned. That Mr. Sloan did not file such a
complaint is not unusual in that his case involved a custody matter
requiring that he weigh the value of filing the complaint against the
damage it might do to his case.

Say hello to Paul and Susan, asshole.


  
Date: 26 Mar 2008 21:00:44
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!



Brian Lafferty wrote:

>IIRC, Mr. Sloan was ordered held for a 730 psychiatric evaluation which
>determined he was no more neurotic than any other person living in NYC.

That's setting the bar rather low, don't you think? :)



 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 01:42:31
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 6:10 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
<[email protected] > wrote:

> I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> means a spoof.

Yeah, we know. He won two bucks at Fleetwood.


 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 03:40:13
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: SHOCKING!
Yes, HIPAA violations are shocking.

So who violated HIPAA? And, as someone pointed out, names are given to more
than one person.

I, for example, don't play professional basketball in Australia.

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Date: 25 Mar 2008 23:43:47
From: help bot
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
On 26, 2:10 am, The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor
<[email protected] > wrote:

> I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> means a spoof.
>
> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE. Ironic, isn't it, that Sam
> Sloan dares to accuse cus Roberts of insanity, when cus has
> never spent a minute in a crazyhouse and is perfectly sane?
>
> That is not the shocking part of the news, though.
>
> The shocking part is that Sam Sloan was RELEASED from the nuthouse
> after observation, free to walk the streets. I confirmed this by
> phoning 212 349 6006.
>
> The asshole who signed Sam's release docket has a lot to answer for.
> He has no federal immunity but is on the state payroll. Is there any
> way he can be sued for releasing Sam? I've found his name, if it
> helps, but he won't answer his extension.
>
> - The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor


You sir, are an impostor; I demand that
you prove you are the *real* FCPOUF
by naming the three prior princes, as
only the /real/ FCPOUF could possibly
do this. If you are, say, living backwards
through time like Merlin the magician,
then name the *next* cosmic prince and
we will just wait and see... .


-- help bot




 
Date: 26 Mar 2008 02:32:58
From: Martin Ambuhl
Subject: Re: I received some shocking information about Mr. Sam Sloan!
The Fourth Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor wrote:
> I received some shocking information about Sam Sloan! This is by no
> means a spoof.
>
> NYC records show that Sam Sloan was incarcerated from 1/6/2006 to
> 1/11/2006 in an ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE.

Who cares? While I certainly do not think his current project of
publishing bridge books is well-considered, and the manner in which he
promotes them somewhat questionable, your attack is childish and perverse.
Assuming you are correct on your facts, and that you have identified the
right Sam Sloan, what of it? Perhaps if a few more supposedly sane
people spent some time in a such an institution the world would be much
better off. Perhaps we should start with very long terms for cowards
posting personal attacks while hiding behind fake names like "The Fourth
Cosmic Prince Of The Unknown Factor".