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Date: 03 Nov 2008 01:36:42
From: Offramp
Subject: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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Fischer won $250 000 in 1972; $125 000 as the original prize fund
offered by the Icelanders, and =A350 000 added by Jim Slater, which is
also $125 000.
How much is that worth today?
http://www.measuringworth.com/index.html gives these relative values:
"Current data is only available till 2007. In 2007, $250,000.00 from
1972 is worth:
$1,238,602.15 using the Consumer Price Index
$ 992,825.89 using the GDP deflator
$1,324,642.56 using the value of consumer bundle *
$1,168,190.91 using the unskilled wage *
$1,937,065.60 using the nominal GDP per capita
$2,787,591.86 using the relative share of GDP"
It's a hell of a lot of money whichever way you look at it!
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 11:18:51
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 4:53=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 3, 7:26=A0pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Nov 3, 4:36=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Fischer won $250 000 in 1972; $125 000 as the original prize fund
> > > offered by the Icelanders, and =A350 000 added by Jim Slater, which i=
s
> > > also $125 000.
>
> > =A0 It's a pity they could not have offered the loser at least
> > meal money... say $100 to help him limp back home,
>
> I think it was Kotov who pointed out that Spassky would have had to
> win a hundred tournaments to get as much prize money as he got from
> the first Fischer-Spassky match.
>
> Alas, he was still a Soviet, so probably had to pay about 90% of his
> winnings to the government.
I believe the prize fund for WCs 1951 to 1969 was "$2000". In those
days the Soviet government maintained a pretence that the rouble was
the equivalent of the dollar, so winners were given 2000 roubles.
Enough only to buy the wing mirror of a western car.
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Date: 05 Nov 2008 06:29:07
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 3:02=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
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> What disturbs me now is we may be going communist if Obama wins and i
> think he will.
Please explain to us exactly how you expect this to happen.
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 12:24:26
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 3:02=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> God that is funny , Russia ..
>
> What disturbs me now is we may be going communist if Obama wins and i
> think he will.
Too late to worry. W has already made you socialist.
I'm posting from Canada, where we don't believe the government should
nationalize the banks.
>
> At the least we may be like France
You mean, solvent?
William Hyde
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 13:56:01
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 4:38=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> Question for the Canadian , do you like your healthcare ? =A0
Yes.
>
> Think about it if Russia threatened your country or France or most
> other countries , they all would come begging America for help ....
Ask a bunch of commies for help? Not likely!
William Hyde
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 13:38:02
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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Question for the Canadian , do you like your healthcare ? If you needed
a MRI could you just go to the place and get one today or would you have
to wait ? I can go to one of many places and get one today if i needed
it ..
How much do you pay for your healthcare ?
I like mine and when you hear that 25 million people do not have
healthcare here , that is about how many illegal people we have here..
On the bail out , i did not want that and millions of other people did
not want it either but our congress made the decision for us ..
Think about it if Russia threatened your country or France or most
other countries , they all would come begging America for help ....
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 22:49:08
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 6, 9:42 pm, thumbody <[email protected] > wrote:
> Somewhere I did learn that Mr. Limbaugh was paid an obscene $365 million
> per annum..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh gives his income as
$33.000.000. But that could be 1972 money.
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Date: 07 Nov 2008 08:42:00
From: thumbody
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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William Hyde wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 11:20 am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On hearing that, I could only concur in Al Franken's assessment of
> > Limbaugh's intellectual ability.
>
> He is a river of ignorance flowing to his listeners.
Surely you don't mean to imply that his army of listeners share two & a
half teeth, live in trailers & are dumbo-dumbo?..
Btw, if you hand a whale a couple of walking sticks it can indeed walk
around on it's tail..
Somewhere I did learn that Mr. Limbaugh was paid an obscene $365 million
per annum..
Well, when I finalise my takeover of the World these inane payments will
come to an end. No longer will these gross parasites burden the lives of
builder Bob & plumber Joe..
Under "thumbody's fair distribution plan" every man/woman/child will be
granted a unique plot of land - their's by inalienable right of the fact
that they be born here on Earth..
Other strands in 'thumbody's' masterplan which we deem the World can
easily afford are free food, education, healthcare & libraries for
everyone..
See you @ the polling booth..
t.
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 09:42:25
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 5, 10:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 5, 11:20=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > =A0 Anyway, it is amazing how all of these guys can
> > > have strong opinions on everything, includng those
> > > things they nothing about.
> > =A0 =A0Quite so. The only time I watched Limbaugh's show was for a few
> > minutes when I came upon it by chance while channel-surfing. He was
> > expressing a vehement opinion on the subject of whales evolving from
> > land animals, a hypothesis which is very well supported by scientific
> > evidence. Rush would have none of it, saying it was impossible because
> > whales could not walk on their tails.
> > =A0 On hearing that, I could only concur in Al Franken's assessment of
> > Limbaugh's intellectual ability.
>
> =A0 After selecting "I'm feeling lucky" as my search tool,
> all I got was "who the heck is Al Franken?" when I
> typed in the above info.; strangely, I was then
> redirected to a Web site for Chevy Chase... .
Strange. Both Chase and Franken were involved with the TV show
"Saturday Night Live," but not at the same time, if I recall
correctly. At most they would have overlapped by just a year. Franken
was a writer and sometime performer on the show. His work always had a
strong satirical bent, sometimes with a political angle, and in recent
years he's moved away from comedy and more into punditry and politics.
This year he was in fact the Democratic candidate for the US Senate
from Minnesota. Last I checked the race had not been officially
decided; he and the Republican candidate were separated by only a few
hundred votes out of nearly 3 million cast, and a recount was in the
offing.
Regarding Rush Limbaugh, Franken wrote a book titled "Rush Limbaugh
is a Big Fat Idiot" in which he pointed out many of RL's frequent
errors, fabrications and fallacies. Also "Lies and the Lying Liars Who
Tell Them," a look at such right-wing pundits as Bill O'Reilly, Ann
Coulter, and Sean Hannity.
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Date: 05 Nov 2008 19:42:15
From: help bot
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 5, 11:20=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> > =A0 Anyway, it is amazing how all of these guys can
> > have strong opinions on everything, includng those
> > things they nothing about.
> =A0 =A0Quite so. The only time I watched Limbaugh's show was for a few
> minutes when I came upon it by chance while channel-surfing. He was
> expressing a vehement opinion on the subject of whales evolving from
> land animals, a hypothesis which is very well supported by scientific
> evidence. Rush would have none of it, saying it was impossible because
> whales could not walk on their tails.
> =A0 On hearing that, I could only concur in Al Franken's assessment of
> Limbaugh's intellectual ability.
After selecting "I'm feeling lucky" as my search tool,
all I got was "who the heck is Al Franken?" when I
typed in the above info.; strangely, I was then
redirected to a Web site for Chevy Chase... .
So I decided to test this "lucky" tool against Google.
I typed in "Sanny" and Google had 1.6 million hits in
0.18 seconds!-- fast, but useless. I'm feelin' lucky took
me straight to GetClub.com, suggested I try the Easy
level and even offered to give move hints if for some
reason I did not win inside of thirty moves. Lucky said
she usually offers the GetClub program QN odds, to
make things more interesting.
Anyway, everybody and his brother knows that
whales have "five fingers" inside their flippers, due to
having evolved from some land animal. Strangely
enough, pennipegs -- walruses, sea lions and seals --
are related to bears, as in polar bears, who spend
much of their time in the water and who feast on
their "cousins". I am hardly surprised that Mr.
Limbaugh would upend whales and picture them as
bipedal tail-walking fish, rather than as quadruped
mammals who, like otters, just loved to swim.
What I want to know is this: who pays all these
idiots to bloviate over the airwaves? I know that
"dead air" must be avoided at all cost, but you
would think they could find /somebody/ better than
these guys (maybe even Al Franken).
-- help bot
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 06:15:53
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 6, 4:26=A0am, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
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> I was talking about Rush the rock band ..
Ah, my apologies for misunderstanding. Since the conversation had
taken a political turn, I assumed you meant Rush Limbaugh. I have
enjoyed some of the band Rush's music, though they really need to get
someone besides Geddy Lee to do the singing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dto-PAFG25uI
> Mr Hide said he was from Canada ..
Among Canadian bands, I would prefer the Tragically Hip or the Guess
Who to Rush.
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 08:21:38
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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Thanks for that YOUTUBE clip , unfortunately my webtv sucks and i can
not get youtube ..I can go there and see the pics but that is it ..
Look up the YOUTUBE clips of all those songs i told you about ..
Main Monkey Business
HOPE
Malignant Narcissism
Those above are the names of the 3 instrumentals...
Armor and Sword and Spindrift are good songs too..
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 08:09:02
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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By the way those other two bands , i like them too.....
Seriously look up these songs off Snakes and Arrows..
My favorite song called " The Larger Bowl "
These songs are very good too..
Which Way The Wind Blows .
Working Them Angels
Far Cry
ALL 3 INSTRUMENTALS are very good too.
+ if your not big on Geddys voice he does not sing on these ..Check
them out ..
+ all the other songs on the CD , this to me is a VERY strong effort on
their part ..They worked very hard on this CD ..
Alex plays the acoustic guitar allot on this CD
Neils lyrics are VERY strong on this CD too..
Neil the drummer writes 98 % of ALL Rush lyrics ....
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 07:00:38
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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Get their last CD called Snakes & Arrows , it is very , very good
..Geddy can not sing those high notes anymore , his voice has come way
down ...I think all three are between 53 to 56 years old ? Ged and Alex
have know each other since they were tweleve...
They have had the same 3 members since I974 , Alex Lifson , Geddy Lee
and Neil Pert .
Think about that .....Amazing they have not broken up yet .
The DVD of their last tour , Snakes and Arrows tour will be out on
November 29 th .....
They filmed it in Rotterdam , i belive..
On the political part , what i was asking Mr Hyde about taxes ..I
heard a interview with Geddy Lee years ago when some one asked him why
they did not try and live in tax exile to save some of his money ..Ged
said he likes living in Canada and did not want to move so he pays the
higher taxes ...
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Date: 06 Nov 2008 01:26:02
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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I was talking about Rush the rock band ..
Mr Hide said he was from Canada ..
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Date: 05 Nov 2008 09:29:55
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 5, 11:20=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
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> =A0 =A0Quite so. The only time I watched Limbaugh's show was for a few
> minutes when I came upon it by chance while channel-surfing. He was
> expressing a vehement opinion on the subject of whales evolving from
> land animals, a hypothesis which is very well supported by scientific
> evidence. Rush would have none of it, saying it was impossible because
> whales could not walk on their tails.
> =A0 On hearing that, I could only concur in Al Franken's assessment of
> Limbaugh's intellectual ability.
He is a river of ignorance flowing to his listeners.
William Hyde
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Date: 05 Nov 2008 08:20:22
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 8:12=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 4, 6:21=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
>
> > I am a big Rush fan and i heard a interview with Geddy one time , he
> > said they chose to stay in Canada and pay their high taxes instead of
> > trying to live in tax exile ...
>
> =A0 I listened to one of his radio shows once. =A0He talked
> and talked, mainly about how great he was. =A0Yet I
> could not help bot wonder-- if he was so great, why
> was he just on the radio, and not television like Bill
> O-Reiley and Sean Hannity?
Limbaugh did have a TV show for a while, in which he did basically
the same stuff as his radio show.
> =A0 Anyway, it is amazing how all of these guys can
> have strong opinions on everything, includng those
> things they nothing about.
Quite so. The only time I watched Limbaugh's show was for a few
minutes when I came upon it by chance while channel-surfing. He was
expressing a vehement opinion on the subject of whales evolving from
land animals, a hypothesis which is very well supported by scientific
evidence. Rush would have none of it, saying it was impossible because
whales could not walk on their tails.
On hearing that, I could only concur in Al Franken's assessment of
Limbaugh's intellectual ability.
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Date: 05 Nov 2008 17:44:50
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:20:22 -0800 (PST), Taylor Kingston
<[email protected] > wrote:
>The only time I watched Limbaugh's show was for a few
>minutes when I came upon it by chance while channel-surfing. He was
>expressing a vehement opinion on the subject of whales evolving from
>land animals, a hypothesis which is very well supported by scientific
>evidence. Rush would have none of it, saying it was impossible because
>whales could not walk on their tails.
Heh, heh. Maybe he knows where happy pills come from.
> On hearing that, I could only concur in Al Franken's assessment of
>Limbaugh's intellectual ability.
Franken was being polite.
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 18:41:14
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 6:21=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> How much do you pay for your healthcare ? or do you know ? =A0
About one third less than you do.
I lived in the US for about ten years so I've seen both systems at
work.
> I am a big Rush fan
This comes as no surprise.
William Hyde
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 17:12:49
From: help bot
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 6:21=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> I am a big Rush fan and i heard a interview with Geddy one time , he
> said they chose to stay in Canada and pay their high taxes instead of
> trying to live in tax exile ...
I listened to one of his radio shows once. He talked
and talked, mainly about how great he was. Yet I
could not help bot wonder-- if he was so great, why
was he just on the radio, and not television like Bill
O-Reiley and Sean Hannity?
Anyway, it is amazing how all of these guys can
have strong opinions on everything, includng those
things they nothing about. I expect if you asked one
of them at random who was better at chess: Fred
Flintstone or Barney Rubble, they would not only
have an opinion, but viciously attack anyone who
did not wholeheartedly support it... .
-- help bot
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 15:21:13
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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How much do you pay for your healthcare ? or do you know ? Why do
people in Vancouver come to my state of Washington for operations ? I
will tell you what they tell us , they do not want to wait as long as it
takes to get that stuff done ...Think about it when every one gets so
called " FREE " healthcare it has to be limited .
If i lived in your country could i get my teeth cleaned at the dentist
every month for free ? I bet not ...
Most people here in the US get healthcare through their jobs . I
like it that way but when Obama wins he wants your One Payer healthcare
system ....Wish you would explain it to me so i understand what is
coming...
How much in taxes do you pay ?
I am a big Rush fan and i heard a interview with Geddy one time , he
said they chose to stay in Canada and pay their high taxes instead of
trying to live in tax exile ...
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 12:20:47
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 4, 3:02=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> God that is funny , Russia ..
>
> What disturbs me now is we may be going communist if Obama wins and i
> think he will.
Will we then at least have Soviet-style hegemony in chess?
> At the least we may be like France ....I hate that too.
Yeah, France hasn't been any good in chess since the days of
Labourdonnais and Saint-Amaint.
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 12:02:06
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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God that is funny , Russia ..
What disturbs me now is we may be going communist if Obama wins and i
think he will.
At the least we may be like France ....I hate that too...
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 08:53:48
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 3, 7:26=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 3, 4:36=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Fischer won $250 000 in 1972; $125 000 as the original prize fund
> > offered by the Icelanders, and =A350 000 added by Jim Slater, which is
> > also $125 000.
>
> =A0 It's a pity they could not have offered the loser at least
> meal money... say $100 to help him limp back home,
I think it was Kotov who pointed out that Spassky would have had to
win a hundred tournaments to get as much prize money as he got from
the first Fischer-Spassky match.
Alas, he was still a Soviet, so probably had to pay about 90% of his
winnings to the government.
William Hyde
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Date: 04 Nov 2008 00:44:02
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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The prize fund was split. 5/8 to the winner. 3/8 to the loser. I
will let you do the math.
Terry
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Date: 03 Nov 2008 16:26:42
From: help bot
Subject: Re: How much did Fischer win in 1972?
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On Nov 3, 4:36=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> Fischer won $250 000 in 1972; $125 000 as the original prize fund
> offered by the Icelanders, and =A350 000 added by Jim Slater, which is
> also $125 000.
It's a pity they could not have offered the loser at least
meal money... say $100 to help him limp back home,
forlorn and defeated. Better still, $500 or $1000-- can
not the winner afford to sacrifice such a pittance? Heck,
why not split the prize money 60/40, or even 70/30? Oh
well, what's done is done. If you say that BF got 100%
of the prize money, we must learn to accept it and move
on. The Worldwide Church of God is happier that way.
-- help bot
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