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Date: 13 Dec 2008 16:36:03
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Subject: Herman Steiner designed sets
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Not selling, but curious.
My dad met Mrs. Steiner and in 1966 acquired quite a few sets that
were designed by Herman (he was planning to market sets, boards, etc.
before he died in 1955).
(similar to these pieces http://www2.polito.it/didattica/polymath/htmlS/argoment/Matematicae/A...)
Any ideas on the best way to get these sets into the hands of fans and
enthusiasts? Seems a shame to leave them stored in Dad's garage...
-Josh
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Date: 16 Dec 2008 08:02:19
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 188)
PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM
"Before becoming a legend, this star of The Maltese Falcon hustled
strangers at chess in New York City." =97Question on Jeopardy
After the stock market crash in 1929, Humphrey Bogart played for chump
change against all comers at penny arcades and parks. He was a
director for the U.S. Chess Federation and also the best player in the
Hollywood enclave. In Casablanca, the Oscar-winning film of 1943, he
suggested that putting chess into the script would give more dimension
to Rick, a cynical, world-weary loner who fought too many lost causes.
Some of the dialogue was autobiographical.
When interviewed in 1945, he said chess was one of those things that
mattered to him most. Bogie added that he played every day between
those tedious waits between takes when making movies. So did John
Wayne and, more recently, Will Smith.
Bogie made 75 movies. In 1999 the American Film Institute dubbed him
the Greatest Male Star of All Time. He won the academy award only once
for The African Queen which was filmed in the Congo where he often
passed time playing chess with the crew. Dr. Paul Limbos, who was
staying at the same hotel in Stanleyville, recalls their meeting in
1951:
[One of their games is cited.]
[email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 16, 9:05?am, [email protected] wrote:
> > Thanks for all of the replies.
> >
> > Taylor, thanks for the link. The knights do have thicker manes and the
> > bishops have a more simple design.
> >
> > Will make a trip to Dad's this weekend and get the pieces out of the
> > garage. I'll post picture asap and hopefully we can clear up the
> > Staunton/Steiner confusion once and for all.
>
> I look forward to seeing what you have. Steiner was not only a very
> strong player, but also an energetic chess promoter, and it doesn't
> surprise me that he would endorse his own line of sets.
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Date: 16 Dec 2008 06:53:08
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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On Dec 16, 9:05=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> Thanks for all of the replies.
>
> Taylor, thanks for the link. The knights do have thicker manes and the
> bishops have a more simple design.
>
> Will make a trip to Dad's this weekend and get the pieces out of the
> garage. I'll post picture asap and hopefully we can clear up the
> Staunton/Steiner confusion once and for all.
I look forward to seeing what you have. Steiner was not only a very
strong player, but also an energetic chess promoter, and it doesn't
surprise me that he would endorse his own line of sets.
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Date: 16 Dec 2008 06:05:25
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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Thanks for all of the replies.
Taylor, thanks for the link. The knights do have thicker manes and the
bishops have a more simple design.
Will make a trip to Dad's this weekend and get the pieces out of the
garage. I'll post picture asap and hopefully we can clear up the
Staunton/Steiner confusion once and for all.
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Date: 15 Dec 2008 07:27:45
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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On Dec 14, 7:44=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 14, 6:49=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On Dec 15, 12:13=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 14, 8:19=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > Fixed link:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/brow=
se_thread/thr...
>
> > > =A0 Neither link takes one to any chess sets. Your link above just lo=
ops
> > > endlessly to this newgrsoup thread.
>
> > Sorry - this link should work:http://www2.polito.it/didattica/polymath/=
htmlS/argoment/Matematicae/A...
>
> =A0 This is simply a well-known photo of Steiner with movie stars
> Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, and Charles Boyer. A better version of
> the same photo is found in "The Bobby Fischer I Knew and Other
> Stories" by Arnold Denker & Larry Parr. The chess set appears to be
> just a standard Staunton pattern, with nothing unique or distinctive
> about it. What supposedly makes it a "Herman Steiner designed set,"
> and what about it is different from the usual Staunton set?
> > Also, Dad confirmed that the first time he saw the set was at "the
> > Second Piatigorsky Cup tournament in Los Angeles (July 17 to August
> > 15, 1966)"
Are you saying these Steiner-designed sets were used by the GMs in
that event? I have both Piatigorsky Cup tournament books, 1963 and
1966. Photos again show standard Staunton sets being used. The only
distinctive feature, compared to most sets, is that the knights are
more like real horse heads, with arched necks and thick manes, similar
to, though not exactly like, those shown here: http://tinyurl.com/56rsch
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Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:11:29
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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On Dec 15, 12:44=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 14, 6:49=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On Dec 15, 12:13=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 14, 8:19=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > Fixed link:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/brow=
se_thread/thr...
>
> > > =A0 Neither link takes one to any chess sets. Your link above just lo=
ops
> > > endlessly to this newgrsoup thread.
>
> > Sorry - this link should work:http://www2.polito.it/didattica/polymath/=
htmlS/argoment/Matematicae/A...
>
> > Also, Dad confirmed that the first time he saw the set was at =A0"the
> > Second Piatigorsky Cup tournament in Los Angeles (July 17 to August
> > 15, 1966)"
>
> =A0 This is simply a well-known photo of Steiner with movie stars
> Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, and Charles Boyer. A better version of
> the same photo is found in "The Bobby Fischer I Knew and Other
> Stories" by Arnold Denker & Larry Parr. The chess set appears to be
> just a standard Staunton pattern, with nothing unique or distinctive
> about it. What supposedly makes it a "Herman Steiner designed set,"
> and what about it is different from the usual Staunton set?
It's the old Staunton/Steiner confusion again.
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Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:44:05
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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On Dec 14, 6:49=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 15, 12:13=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14, 8:19=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > Fixed link:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/browse=
_thread/thr...
>
> > =A0 Neither link takes one to any chess sets. Your link above just loop=
s
> > endlessly to this newgrsoup thread.
>
> Sorry - this link should work:http://www2.polito.it/didattica/polymath/ht=
mlS/argoment/Matematicae/A...
>
> Also, Dad confirmed that the first time he saw the set was at =A0"the
> Second Piatigorsky Cup tournament in Los Angeles (July 17 to August
> 15, 1966)"
This is simply a well-known photo of Steiner with movie stars
Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, and Charles Boyer. A better version of
the same photo is found in "The Bobby Fischer I Knew and Other
Stories" by Arnold Denker & Larry Parr. The chess set appears to be
just a standard Staunton pattern, with nothing unique or distinctive
about it. What supposedly makes it a "Herman Steiner designed set,"
and what about it is different from the usual Staunton set?
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Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:49:54
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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On Dec 15, 12:13=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 14, 8:19=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Fixed link:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/browse_t=
hread/thr...
>
> =A0 Neither link takes one to any chess sets. Your link above just loops
> endlessly to this newgrsoup thread.
Sorry - this link should work:
http://www2.polito.it/didattica/polymath/htmlS/argoment/Matematicae/Aprile_=
04/Img/image049.jpg
Also, Dad confirmed that the first time he saw the set was at "the
Second Piatigorsky Cup tournament in Los Angeles (July 17 to August
15, 1966)"
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Date: 14 Dec 2008 07:13:04
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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On Dec 14, 8:19=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> Fixed link:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/browse_thr=
ead/thr...
Neither link takes one to any chess sets. Your link above just loops
endlessly to this newgrsoup thread.
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Date: 14 Dec 2008 05:19:17
From:
Subject: Re: Herman Steiner designed sets
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Fixed link: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/browse_thread/thread/c0a81fe9ab2b0666#
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