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Date: 02 Dec 2008 21:01:28
From: help bot
Subject: GetClub server blown up
Well, almost.

After a very tough fight against the Advance level,
I stepped back down to face the Normal level, at a
more normal time control. Here is the result:

1. d4 Nf6

2. c4 e6

3. Nf3 Bb4+

4. Nc3 Bxc3+

5. bc3 Nc6

6. Qc2 O-O

7. e4 Ng4

8. Bd3 h5

9. h3 Nf6

10. Bg5 Ne7

11. e5 Ne8

12. g4 hg

13. Bh7+ Kh8

14. hg g6

15. O-O-O Ng7

16. Bxg6+ Kg8

17. Bh7+ Kh8

18. Bg8+ Kg8

19. Kxg8 Qh7++


Even as I type this, new fuses are being
installed (Sanny uses old pennies, which
if you recall, were made of real copper).
Fortunately, no one was hurt in the blast.


-- miniaturizer bot







 
Date: 04 Dec 2008 07:59:33
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub server blown up
On Dec 4, 6:35=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 4, 3:20=A0am, Sanny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Today again GetClub was improved. Now it will play like a big
> > elephant. And throw big trees to whoever plays with it.
>
> > It will be very difficult to get a win now.
>
> =A0 I watched a movie about Alexander the Great
> yesterday, and they had him conquering just
> about everybody-- until he invaded India! =A0 In
> the movie the Indians had war-elephants, and
> all the stunt men on foot were apparently killed.
> (Okay, that was just computer graphics.)
>

I too saw that movie an year back. Remember the Snakes?


> =A0 If the world's strongest chess engine can be
> called "little fish", then I suppose it only makes
> sense that GetClub is the "big elephant".

Should I rename GetClub Chess as Elephant Chess?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




 
Date: 04 Dec 2008 05:35:03
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub server blown up
On Dec 4, 3:20=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:

> Today again GetClub was improved. Now it will play like a big
> elephant. And throw big trees to whoever plays with it.
>
> It will be very difficult to get a win now.


I watched a movie about Alexander the Great
yesterday, and they had him conquering just
about everybody-- until he invaded India! In
the movie the Indians had war-elephants, and
all the stunt men on foot were apparently killed.
(Okay, that was just computer graphics.)

If the world's strongest chess engine can be
called "little fish", then I suppose it only makes
sense that GetClub is the "big elephant".


-- help bot




 
Date: 04 Dec 2008 00:20:21
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub server blown up
Today again GetClub was improved. Now it will play like a big
elephant. And throw big trees to whoever plays with it.

It will be very difficult to get a win now.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




 
Date: 03 Dec 2008 08:34:23
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub server blown up
On Dec 3, 12:01=A0am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:

Computer analysis has identified my move,
12. g4, as somewhat inferior, and GetClub's
reply, ...hg, as a horrific, Keene-size blunder.


> =A0 1. d4 =A0Nf6
>
> =A0 2. c4 =A0e6
>
> =A0 3. Nf3 =A0Bb4+
>
> =A0 4. Nc3 =A0Bxc3+
>
> =A0 5. bc3 =A0Nc6
>
> =A0 6. =A0Qc2 =A0O-O
>
> =A0 7. e4 =A0Ng4
>
> =A0 8. Bd3 =A0h5
>
> =A0 9. h3 =A0Nf6
>
> =A010. Bg5 =A0Ne7
>
> =A011. e5 =A0Ne8
>
> =A012. g4 =A0hg


-- help bot



 
Date: 03 Dec 2008 04:13:12
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub server blown up
On Dec 3, 2:20=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:

> There was one thing modified that made its King defence weaker. Now
> that weakness has been removed. Remember yesterday there was 4 times
> improvement. Now that was done by weakening the King. There was an
> error in that and that have been corrected.


I haven't run this game through yet, but it
seems to me that in addition to exposing its
King via ...hxg4, GetClub also made crude
positional errors. One example was the
move ...h5 (which no human in his right
mind would ever play).
The general rule is that you should not
move the pawns in front of your own King,
unless necessary.

In this game, GetClub also made another
one of those crazy Knight "attacks" with
...Ng4. I suspect you give a bonus for
moves like this which attack squares
inside the enemy camp, or something like
that. It would be better if there were a
tiny bonus for piece development, so the
program would lean toward getting *all*
of its pieces into the game. This kind of
thing -- hopping Knights or Queen about
while leaving most of your army behind
-- is why some critics charge that the
program is only around 1000 strength,
for that is precisely the way many weak
human players tend to play.

Another small issue is the move ...Bxc3+.
This gives White doubled pawns, but it is
not wise to play the capture right away like
that. Note how in the game White had the
option of playing Ba3, and how White's
doubled pawns were /not exposed/ on a
half-open file, and neither was White
compelled to play e3, shutting in the QB.
In sum, Black hung the minor exchange
(Bishop for only a Knight).


-- help bot





 
Date: 02 Dec 2008 23:20:02
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub server blown up
On Dec 3, 10:01=A0am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> =A0 Well, almost.
>
> =A0 After a very tough fight against the Advance level,
> I stepped back down to face the Normal level, at a
> more normal time control. =A0 Here is the result:
>

There was one thing modified that made its King defence weaker. Now
that weakness has been removed. Remember yesterday there was 4 times
improvement. Now that was done by weakening the King. There was an
error in that and that have been corrected.

After that I played with Jester and it took 60 Moves for Jester to
win.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html