Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 21:37:20
From: usenet patzer
Subject: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

I'm a newcomer to this bulletin board. I am puzzled. I spent
hours in archivedotorg finding out why the "Trolgarites" and
"Sloanistas" hate each others guts. OK I got it. I found out
why "Ray Gordon" files his lawsuits. To get $$. I found out
why "Marcus Roberts" does what he does. Because he went nuts.
I found out why "The Historian" hates "Chess One". Because he
is envious.

But one question I could not answer. Could someone explain it
to me....PLEASE? Why does every one hate "Brian Lafferty"? It
cannot be because he spends every waking minute attacking the
"Trolgars" because they are not very popular either. It could
be that I am missing some insight into WHY "Brian Lafferty"
hates the "Trolgars" so much. The loathing now is mutual, but
it seems clear from the record that it started out the way I
said, in the chess issues USCF forum.

I would be grateful if some good samaritan could bring me up
to speed.

Date: 13 Dec 2008 09:47:41
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 12, 3:52=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 12, 3:39=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 8:48=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
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> > > On Dec 12, 8:25=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > On Dec 11, 11:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need =
be said?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > =A0 Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
> > > > > was not /all/ bad. =A0 And then there are the
> > > > > paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
> > > > > human exploitation, but rather in technical
> > > > > business work-- much like an accountant
> > > > > or an economist.
>
> > > > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > > > Perry Mason was gay!
>
> > > =A0 Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so w=
ere/
> > > are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
> > > Preston and Rock Hudson.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > And Eric Johnson but I digress...
>
> =A0 Eric Johnson is an actor?

Chesspride certainly did pose.....

Date: 12 Dec 2008 15:45:30
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

What's the difference between a laywer and a prostitute? The
prostitute stops fucking you when your dead.

On Dec 11, 12:16=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> > =A0 Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
> > =A0 A: One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish.
>
> > =A0 "Lawyer, n.: One skilled in the circumvention of the law." =97 Ambr=
ose
> > Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
>
> > =A0 "Lawsuit, n.: A machine which you go into as a pig and come out as =
a
> > sausage." =97 ibid.
>
> > =A0 "Lawyers are ... operators of the toll bridge which anyone in searc=
h
> > of justice must pass." =97 Jane Bryant Quinn
>
> > =A0 "The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if
> > it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence."
> > =97 H.L. Mencken
>
> I hear that scientists now prefer to experiment on lawyers instead of
> rats. They give their reasons as
>
> 1) There are some things a rat just won't do, and
> 2) Scientists say they don't become as attached to them.
>
> Phil Innes

Date: 12 Dec 2008 14:34:08
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 12, 8:48=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 12, 8:25=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Perry Mason was gay!

> =A0 Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so were/
> are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
> Preston and Rock Hudson.- Hide quoted text -

Wow-- you guys sure know a lot about /some/
things. (I knew only of Rock Hudson being gay.)

-- help bot

Date: 13 Dec 2008 00:49:25
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: AW: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

help bot wrote:
> On Dec 12, 8:48 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Dec 12, 8:25 am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Perry Mason was gay!
>
>> Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so were/
>> are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
>> Preston and Rock Hudson.- Hide quoted text -
>
>
> Wow-- you guys sure know a lot about /some/
> things. (I knew only of Rock Hudson being gay.)
>
>
> -- help bot

But did you know that he was a "fine actor"?

Date: 12 Dec 2008 14:29:48
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 12, 3:52=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 12, 3:39=A0pm, None <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 8:48=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 12, 8:25=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 11, 11:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need =
be said?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > =A0 Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
> > > > > was not /all/ bad. =A0 And then there are the
> > > > > paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
> > > > > human exploitation, but rather in technical
> > > > > business work-- much like an accountant
> > > > > or an economist.
>
> > > > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > > > Perry Mason was gay!
>
> > > =A0 Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so w=
ere/
> > > are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
> > > Preston and Rock Hudson.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > And Eric Johnson but I digress...
>
> =A0 Eric Johnson is an actor?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Eric Johnson was an assoc professer of a NY College. Two a penny but
he is as gay as the driven newt, and was much persecuted in this ng
for it by people who now can't remenber they did that - or said
nothing at the time - but honest of his very fixed opinion. He has
not written here for abt. 3 years, and it seems to me it is not
entirely ok to mention his orientations to chess, or to anything like
that.

I have never agreed Eric very much, who would dress young chess
players up into boy-scout like uniforms, but he is no actor. What he
says is what he directly thinks.

Pity he wasnna back here awhile, since he is a strong player too, and
we could do with some of them to discuss chess, rather than the
mediocrities who do so these days - at least, I kid my recent game
critics, not so much for if I was right or wrong in my game v
Bornholz, but in as much as how it is to play that stuff OTB with 2.5
mins per move at your disposal.

That is real chess. Real politics needs to connect with that,
otherwise it has no basis in pretentending to be real at all, and you
end up with a meglo-maniac like Sloan running for office, 99% of whose
posts are about him, the Sloan, not anything to do with We, the
Players.

That is the big issue among grown-up opinion.

Phil Innes

Date: 12 Dec 2008 12:52:41
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 12, 3:39=A0pm, None <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 12, 8:48=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 8:25=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 11, 11:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be=
said?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > =A0 Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
> > > > was not /all/ bad. =A0 And then there are the
> > > > paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
> > > > human exploitation, but rather in technical
> > > > business work-- much like an accountant
> > > > or an economist.
>
> > > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > > Perry Mason was gay!
>
> > =A0 Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so wer=
e/
> > are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
> > Preston and Rock Hudson.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> And Eric Johnson but I digress...

Eric Johnson is an actor?

Date: 12 Dec 2008 12:39:30
From: None
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 12, 8:48=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 12, 8:25=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 11, 11:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be s=
aid?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > =A0 Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
> > > was not /all/ bad. =A0 And then there are the
> > > paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
> > > human exploitation, but rather in technical
> > > business work-- much like an accountant
> > > or an economist.
>
> > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > Perry Mason was gay!
>
> =A0 Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so were/
> are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
> Preston and Rock Hudson.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And Eric Johnson but I digress...regarding lawyer jokes, there are
only three...all the rest are true.

Date: 12 Dec 2008 06:22:42
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 10, 11:37=A0pm, usenet patzer <[email protected] > wrote:

> I found out why "The Historian" hates "Chess One". Because he
> is envious.

Of what? I don't aspire to be a chucklehead and netloon, so there is
no reason to be jealous of P Innes.

Date: 12 Dec 2008 05:48:00
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 12, 8:25=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 11, 11:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be sai=
d?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > =A0 Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
> > was not /all/ bad. =A0 And then there are the
> > paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
> > human exploitation, but rather in technical
> > business work-- much like an accountant
> > or an economist.
>
> > =A0 -- help bot
>
> Perry Mason was gay!

Raymond Burr, the actor who played Perry Mason, was gay, but so were/
are many fine actors, e.g. Charles Laughton, Montgomery Clift, Robert
Preston and Rock Hudson.

Date: 12 Dec 2008 05:25:46
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 11, 11:42=A0pm, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be said?=
- Hide quoted text -
>
> =A0 Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
> was not /all/ bad. =A0 And then there are the
> paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
> human exploitation, but rather in technical
> business work-- much like an accountant
> or an economist.
>
> =A0 -- help bot

Perry Mason was gay!

Date: 11 Dec 2008 15:42:56
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 11, 3:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:

> Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be said?- =
Hide quoted text -

Well, Perry Mason was a lawyer, and he
was not /all/ bad. And then there are the
paper-shuffler lawyers, who deal not in
human exploitation, but rather in technical
business work-- much like an accountant
or an economist.

-- help bot

Date: 11 Dec 2008 09:16:44
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

> =A0 Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
> =A0 A: One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish.
>
> =A0 "Lawyer, n.: One skilled in the circumvention of the law." =97 Ambros=
e
> Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
>
> =A0 "Lawsuit, n.: A machine which you go into as a pig and come out as a
> sausage." =97 ibid.
>
> =A0 "Lawyers are ... operators of the toll bridge which anyone in search
> of justice must pass." =97 Jane Bryant Quinn
>
> =A0 "The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if
> it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence."
> =97 H.L. Mencken

I hear that scientists now prefer to experiment on lawyers instead of
rats. They give their reasons as

1) There are some things a rat just won't do, and
2) Scientists say they don't become as attached to them.

Phil Innes

Date: 11 Dec 2008 07:48:04
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 11, 10:02=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> Are lawyers so bad?

Some are, some aren't, Sanny. There are lawyers who get rich helping
known criminals stay out of jail, or helping corporations get away
with polluting the environment or selling shoddy products, or filing
unjustified lawsuits against wealthy targets. There are also lawyers
who defend the innocent, bring the guilty to justice, or devote
themselves to noble causes.
Most lawyers are probably just honest guys doing their jobs the best
they can, working in low-profile fields such as real estate, business
contracts, banking, tax law etc. But the dishonest types in high-
profile positions are a favorite subject of novels and films, for
example "The Godfather," "The Firm," "Devil's Advocate" etc., and so
the public gets a biased image of the legal profession as corrupt and
parasitical, and jokes and quotes like this make the rounds:

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
A: One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish.

"Lawyer, n.: One skilled in the circumvention of the law." =97 Ambrose
Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

"Lawsuit, n.: A machine which you go into as a pig and come out as a
sausage." =97 ibid.

"Lawyers are ... operators of the toll bridge which anyone in search
of justice must pass." =97 Jane Bryant Quinn

"The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if
it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence."
=97 H.L. Mencken

Date: 11 Dec 2008 07:02:00
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 11, 1:56=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> usenet patzer wrote:
> > I'm a newcomer to this bulletin board. I am puzzled. I spent
> > hours in archivedotorg finding out why the "Trolgarites" and
> > "Sloanistas" hate each others guts. OK I got it. I found out
> > why "Ray Gordon" files his lawsuits. To get $$. I found out
> > why "Marcus Roberts" does what he does. Because he went nuts.
> > I found out why "The Historian" hates "Chess One". Because he
> > is envious.
>
> > But one question I could not answer. Could someone explain it
> > to me....PLEASE? Why does every one hate "Brian Lafferty"? It
> > cannot be because he spends every waking minute attacking the
> > "Trolgars" because they are not very popular either. It could
> > be that I am missing some insight into WHY "Brian Lafferty"
> > hates the "Trolgars" so much. The loathing now is mutual, but
> > it seems clear from the record that it started out the way I
> > said, in the chess issues USCF forum.
>
> > I would be grateful if some good samaritan could bring me up
> > to speed.
>
> Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be said?- =
Hide quoted text -

Are lawyers so bad?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 11 Dec 2008 00:56:21
From:
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

usenet patzer wrote:
> I'm a newcomer to this bulletin board. I am puzzled. I spent
> hours in archivedotorg finding out why the "Trolgarites" and
> "Sloanistas" hate each others guts. OK I got it. I found out
> why "Ray Gordon" files his lawsuits. To get $$. I found out
> why "Marcus Roberts" does what he does. Because he went nuts.
> I found out why "The Historian" hates "Chess One". Because he
> is envious.
>
> But one question I could not answer. Could someone explain it
> to me....PLEASE? Why does every one hate "Brian Lafferty"? It
> cannot be because he spends every waking minute attacking the
> "Trolgars" because they are not very popular either. It could
> be that I am missing some insight into WHY "Brian Lafferty"
> hates the "Trolgars" so much. The loathing now is mutual, but
> it seems clear from the record that it started out the way I
> said, in the chess issues USCF forum.
>
> I would be grateful if some good samaritan could bring me up
> to speed.

Brian is a lawyer. He's not even ashamed of it. What more need be said?

Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:32:41
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Could someone explain it to me....PLEASE?

On Dec 10, 11:37=A0pm, usenet patzer <[email protected] > wrote:

> I'm a newcomer to this bulletin board. I am puzzled. I spent
> hours in archivedotorg finding out why the "Trolgarites" and
> "Sloanistas" hate each others guts. OK I got it. I found out
> why "Ray Gordon" files his lawsuits. To get $$. I found out
> why "Marcus Roberts" does what he does. Because he went nuts.
> I found out why "The Historian" hates "Chess One". Because he
> is envious.

This is a very astute observation, for as was
pointed out in an old movie, of all the people in
a small town, the only one who was truly happy
was the village idiot (i.e. Dr. IMnes)!; and who
would not be envious of another's utter bliss?

However, it is unclear as to why Mr. Brennan
has been singled out here, for everyone wants
to be happy; everyone must envy this one
aspect of Dr. IMnes' peculiar mental condition.
Perhaps we are simply seeing a manifestation
of your own psychological projection?

> But one question I could not answer. Could someone explain it
> to me....PLEASE? Why does every one hate "Brian Lafferty"?

Hold on a second. I do not even know who
Mr. Lafferty is, apart from very vague attacks
in which puerile name-calling is used (i.e.
"jackass Lafferty"). How can you assert
that "everyone" hates this man, when some
of us, perhaps many, do not even know who
he is?

> It cannot be because he spends every waking minute attacking the
> "Trolgars" because they are not very popular either. It could
> be that I am missing some insight into WHY "Brian Lafferty"
> hates the "Trolgars" so much. The loathing now is mutual, but
> it seems clear from the record that it started out the way I
> said, in the chess issues USCF forum.

Wow-- you must be one of those speed
readers, to have gleaned so much info in
so short a time!

> I would be grateful if some good samaritan could bring me up
> to speed.

Perhaps your pal Rob Mitchell can help?
But as far as bringing you up to speed--
that's a very tall order indeed, doctor.

Look, this is one of those rare instances
where a poll can actually answer the
question posed; why not then poll the rgc
audience, and see how many really hate
Jackass-- er, I mean hate Brian Lafferty,
and how many love him, and how many,
like me, are unemotional, or should I say,
neutral?

Better still, if somebody would explain
just exactly who this guy is, and then we
can take our little poll.

-- help bot