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Date: 07 Jan 2009 04:46:34
From: Mrs Cynthia Beloff
Subject: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.

I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.

It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
high fees.

If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
spamblock.

Cynthia
[email protected]






 
Date: 08 Jan 2009 02:44:19
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
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Date: 07 Jan 2009 17:06:31
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
Perhaps the most obvious thing is she wanted somebody rated "over
1900" and my current rating happens to be 1901.


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 15:49:13
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 6:55 am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:

> More likely the first thing that attracted Sam was "13 yr old
> daughter." The second was "lessons will need to be held at the coach's
> apartment." The third was "very quiet and obedient," and the fourth
> was " I would pay for the motel."


The "mom" didn't have money for the chess
lessons, but did have plenty for motel.
"Beloff's" post was sewn with such a thick thread
that it was not interesting until Sam's response
made me smile. Now the whole thing is a bit funny.
Oh, and that Russian twist, and a husband dead, to
create a defenseless impression. Life is full of
trivial surprises. I would never guess that Sam
will swallow the hook and everything. This reminds
me of a cop in a basement garage of an elegant
building of a few companies in Boca Raton, 1985.
It was perhaps about 2am. I worked odd hours. Anyway,
I went to the cop out of curiosity of life or to just
politely strike a brief nothing conversation. To my
amazement he checked my id. "A criminalist wouldn't
come to a you [to a police officer]" I mentioned.
And he said "you'd be surprised". Indeed.

Regards,

Wlod


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 10:28:02
From: None
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 9:55=A0am, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 7, 9:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 5:56=A0am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jan 7, 12:42 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 3:24 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > > > > > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > > > > > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > > > > > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > > > > > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
>
> > > > > > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > > > > > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > > > > > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > > > > > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
>
> > > > > > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > > > > > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > > > > > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > > > > > high fees.
>
> > > > > > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > > > > > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > > > > > spamblock.
>
> > > > > > Cynthia
> > > > > > [email protected]
>
> > > > > I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
>
> > > > > Is that your correct address
>
> > > > =A0 =A0Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .
>
> > > > =A0 The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
> > > > the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
> > > > who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
> > > > chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
> > > > who likes very young females; know anybody
> > > > fitting that description? =A0 Duh.
>
> > > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > > The hm-mom was even offering to pay for motel rooms :-)
> > > (on the top of sending her teenage daughter to the
> > > hm-coach apt. And till now I thought that Sam is
> > > intelligent :-) Another illusion went down the drain.
>
> > > Wlod
>
> > You are right. It is too obvious and I should have thought about that.
>
> > The first thing that attracted me to this posting was that I also have
> > a daughter and I am looking for a chess teacher for her in the Bronx.
>
> =A0 More likely the first thing that attracted Sam was "13 yr old
> daughter." The second was "lessons will need to be held at the coach's
> apartment." The third was "very quiet and obedient," and the fourth
> was " I would pay for the motel."
>
> > I cannot teach my daughter anything because she pays no attention to
> > what I try to tell her ... My daughter is 7.
>
> =A0 She is wise beyond her years.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

> I cannot teach my daughter anything because she pays no attention to
> what I try to tell her ... My daughter is 7. - Sham Sloan

She is wise beyond her years. - Kingston

Not really, no one ever pays attention to poor Sam and it must have
become obvious to her when she first began to become cognitive. She
has many half-siblings who exhibit the exact same characteristics so
it is no coincidence. I suspect Larry Parr and Don Schultz have
similar issue.





 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 06:55:07
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 9:36=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 7, 5:56=A0am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 12:42 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 7, 3:24 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > > > > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > > > > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > > > > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > > > > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
>
> > > > > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > > > > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > > > > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > > > > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
>
> > > > > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > > > > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > > > > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > > > > high fees.
>
> > > > > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > > > > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > > > > spamblock.
>
> > > > > Cynthia
> > > > > [email protected]
>
> > > > I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
>
> > > > Is that your correct address
>
> > > =A0 =A0Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .
>
> > > =A0 The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
> > > the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
> > > who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
> > > chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
> > > who likes very young females; know anybody
> > > fitting that description? =A0 Duh.
>
> > > =A0 -- help bot
>
> > The hm-mom was even offering to pay for motel rooms :-)
> > (on the top of sending her teenage daughter to the
> > hm-coach apt. And till now I thought that Sam is
> > intelligent :-) Another illusion went down the drain.
>
> > Wlod
>
> You are right. It is too obvious and I should have thought about that.
>
> The first thing that attracted me to this posting was that I also have
> a daughter and I am looking for a chess teacher for her in the Bronx.

More likely the first thing that attracted Sam was "13 yr old
daughter." The second was "lessons will need to be held at the coach's
apartment." The third was "very quiet and obedient," and the fourth
was " I would pay for the motel."

> I cannot teach my daughter anything because she pays no attention to
> what I try to tell her ... My daughter is 7.

She is wise beyond her years.


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 06:36:05
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 5:56=A0am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 7, 12:42 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 3:24 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > > > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > > > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > > > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > > > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
>
> > > > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > > > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > > > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > > > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
>
> > > > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > > > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > > > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > > > high fees.
>
> > > > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > > > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > > > spamblock.
>
> > > > Cynthia
> > > > [email protected]
>
> > > I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
>
> > > Is that your correct address
>
> > =A0 =A0Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .
>
> > =A0 The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
> > the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
> > who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
> > chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
> > who likes very young females; know anybody
> > fitting that description? =A0 Duh.
>
> > =A0 -- help bot
>
> The hm-mom was even offering to pay for motel rooms :-)
> (on the top of sending her teenage daughter to the
> hm-coach apt. And till now I thought that Sam is
> intelligent :-) Another illusion went down the drain.
>
> Wlod

You are right. It is too obvious and I should have thought about that.

The first thing that attracted me to this posting was that I also have
a daughter and I am looking for a chess teacher for her in the Bronx.

I cannot teach my daughter anything because she pays no attention to
what I try to tell her, so I have been looking for a teacher for her.
My daughter is 7.

Sam Sloan


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 02:57:57
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 2:56 am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
<[email protected] > wrote:

> Another illusion went down the drain.

Or was it another FSS?

Wlod


 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 02:56:16
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 12:42 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jan 7, 3:24 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
>
> > > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
>
> > > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > > high fees.
>
> > > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > > spamblock.
>
> > > Cynthia
> > > [email protected]
>
> > I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
>
> > Is that your correct address
>
> Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .
>
> The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
> the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
> who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
> chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
> who likes very young females; know anybody
> fitting that description? Duh.
>
> -- help bot

The hm-mom was even offering to pay for motel rooms :-)
(on the top of sending her teenage daughter to the
hm-coach apt. And till now I thought that Sam is
intelligent :-) Another illusion went down the drain.

Wlod


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 02:25:03
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
>From 76.199.97.51, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jan 7, 12:42 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 3:24 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > > > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > > > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > > > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > > > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
> >
> > > > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > > > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > > > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > > > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
> >
> > > > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > > > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > > > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > > > high fees.
> >
> > > > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > > > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > > > spamblock.
> >
> > > > Cynthia
> > > > [email protected]
> >
> > > I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
> >
> > > Is that your correct address
> >
> > Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .
> >
> > The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
> > the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
> > who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
> > chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
> > who likes very young females; know anybody
> > fitting that description? Duh.
> >
> > -- help bot
>
> The hm-mom was even offering to pay for motel rooms :-)
> (on the top of sending her teenage daughter to the
> hm-coach apt. And till now I thought that Sam is
> intelligent :-) Another illusion went down the drain.
>
> Wlod

No, it was not FSS but RSS. I looked to see. It is from 68.199.110.237. I
pinged, issued whois (SS does not even use a firewall. Why?) netstats and
compared it with other messages.

You underestimate RSS. He was never fooled. Like Lasker, if I recall
correctly, RSS deliberately makes a "bad move". His purpose in replying is
different from what you speculate. SS has a scent of his oppressor(s). LOL.
Why else did he claim the email [email protected] bounced?

As I am a newbie here, do not take offense when I sat the name "Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski (Wlod)" sounds quite improbable. Can you give some ID, or admit
it is a fakename like mine (N.N., who lost thousands of games throughout
the chess literature)? Thanks.





































  
Date: 08 Jan 2009 01:07:18
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 10:45 pm, Nomen Nescio <[email protected] > wrote:

>
> As I am a newbie here, do not take offense when I sat the name "Wlodzimierz
> Holsztynski (Wlod)" sounds quite improbable. Can you give some ID, or admit
> it is a fakename like mine (N.N., who lost thousands of games throughout
> the chess literature)? Thanks.

I really don't care :-)

You seem fluent in the Internet ways,
you will easily establish whatever
you want.

Wlod


  
Date: 08 Jan 2009 07:45:19
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
>From 76.199.97.51, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jan 7, 12:42 am, help bot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 3:24 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > > > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > > > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > > > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > > > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
> >
> > > > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > > > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > > > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > > > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
> >
> > > > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > > > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > > > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > > > high fees.
> >
> > > > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > > > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > > > spamblock.
> >
> > > > Cynthia
> > > > [email protected]
> >
> > > I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
> >
> > > Is that your correct address
> >
> > Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .
> >
> > The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
> > the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
> > who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
> > chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
> > who likes very young females; know anybody
> > fitting that description? Duh.
> >
> > -- help bot
>
> The hm-mom was even offering to pay for motel rooms :-)
> (on the top of sending her teenage daughter to the
> hm-coach apt. And till now I thought that Sam is
> intelligent :-) Another illusion went down the drain.
>
> Wlod

No, it was not FSS. I looked to see. It is from 68.199.110.237. I pinged,
issued whois (SS does not even use a firewall. Why?) netstats etc and
compared it with other messages. It is RRSS in the Bronx, for certain. But
I think you underestimate SS. He was never fooled. Like Lasker, if I recall
correctly, often SS deliberately makes "bad moves". His purpose in replying
is different from what you speculate. SS has a scent of his oppressor(s).
LOL.

As I am a newbie here, do not take offense when I sat the name "Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski (Wlod)" sounds quite improbable. Can you give some ID, or admit
it is a fakename like mine (N.N., who lost thousands of games throughout
the chess literature)? Thanks.






































 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 00:42:21
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 7, 3:24=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:

> > My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> > I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> > chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> > the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> > coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
>
> > I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> > coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> > live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> > raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
>
> > It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> > to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> > her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> > high fees.
>
> > If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> > you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> > spamblock.
>
> > Cynthia
> > [email protected]
>
> I just tried that email address. The email bounced.
>
> Is that your correct address


Mr. Sloan-- you aren't a very bright fellow... .

The post was *obviously* meant as a jab at
the sexual-predatoriality of a particular chap,
who happens to live in the Bronx, have a
chess rating somewhere around 1900, and
who likes very young females; know anybody
fitting that description? Duh.


-- help bot



 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 00:24:46
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Chess lessons for my daughter? (BRONX)
On Jan 6, 10:46=A0pm, "Mrs Cynthia Beloff"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> My 13 yr old daughter was taught chess by my late husband.
> I cannot play chess. Her school says she would benefit from
> chess lessons once or twice a week as she is too strong for
> the school club or teachers. They said I should look for a
> coach who has recently been rated 1,900 or higher.
>
> I work nights, so the lessons will need to be held at the
> coach's apartment. I have just moved from out of state and
> live in the Bronx. My daughter is very quiet and obedient,
> raised very strictly, so discipline should not be an issue.
>
> It would be a bonus if the coach could allow my daughter
> to accompany him or her to chess competitions to broaden
> her experience. I would pay for the motel. I cannot afford
> high fees.
>
> If you can help or know someone who can please reply, thank
> you so much. If you want to email, please take out the
> spamblock.
>
> Cynthia
> [email protected]

I just tried that email address. The email bounced.

Is that your correct address?