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Date: 08 Mar 2008 14:08:50
From: Chess One
Subject: Chess and Intelligence
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Here is a foundation work linking chess and intelligence by two of the
foremost educational and psychological researchers of the C20th. //Phil
Innes
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> Dr. Howard Gardner, in his 1983 book Frames of Mind: The Theory of
> Multiple
> Intelligences, discussed chess as the priy example of spatial
> intelligence. In private email, Dr. Gardner has acknowledged, "Skill in
> chess probably depends on both logical, mathematical and spatial
> intelligence; and since it is a competitive game, interpersonal
> intelligence
> is probably important as well." Dr. Gardner and other Harvard professors
> were actively involved with the "Learn to Think Project" in Venezuela.
> The
> findings (based on a sample of the 4,266 second grade students) were
> nothing
> short of amazing: After a minimum of 4.5 months in the chess program,
> most
> students showed a significant gain in IQ. B.F. Skinner wrote, "There is
> no
> doubt that this project in its total form will be considered as one of the
> greatest social experiments of this century."
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Date: 08 Mar 2008 20:44:43
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Chess and Intelligence
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On 8, 10:39 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/ > wrote:
> Chess One wrote:
>
> >help bot wrote
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> >> My theory is that, since 2450 nearly-IMs
> >> have essentially no intelligence whatsoever,
>
> >My theory is that help-bot is a maliciously uneducated dunce,
>
> Get a room, you two.
I specifically requested a half-way intelligent
heckler, but no-- the powers that be misread
my intended meaning and assigned someone
with only half an intellect to my case. OTOH,
the service is free... .
-- help bot
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Date: 08 Mar 2008 13:55:56
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Chess and Intelligence
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On 8, 2:08 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Here is a foundation work linking chess and intelligence by two of the
> foremost educational and psychological researchers of the C20th. //Phil
> Innes
You lost me: C20th? (Where is my Mensa
secret decoder ring?)
My theory is that, since 2450 nearly-IMs
have essentially no intelligence whatsoever,
any research linking chess with intelligence
must have some (perhaps deeply-hidden)
flaws.
Okay, after considerable thought I have
come up with what I believe to be a *real*
link: between freaky, overinflated egos and
chess ratings and titles. The evidence is
all around us.
Rather than (general) intelligence, I have
found it very helpful if chess was learned
-- and I mean really learned -- at a young
age. Take me, for instance; I did not
learn to play until I was already turning
old and gray; this explains why I cannot
*always* beat GetClub like carrots. But
several players I have known, who were
what they call "very talented", in fact
learned the game at a MUCH younger age;
such players seem to have a quicker grasp,
a better-developed feel for the game than
oldsters who showed up late to the party.
Likewise, I have noticed that when I go
to some distant chess tournaments and
see "IMs", I later discover that they have
been competing actively for many years.
These are no Johnny-come-latelys, who
just happen to be great at everything they
try, but well-studied, battle-hardened
warriors who have honed their chess
skills to a fine edge. Is it any wonder
then, that I only draw? Kidding!
-- help bot
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Date: 08 Mar 2008 19:17:04
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Chess and Intelligence
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"help bot" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:4ac7911e-3e86-4f86-8deb-beb118dd20bb@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 8, 2:08 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Here is a foundation work linking chess and intelligence by two of the
>> foremost educational and psychological researchers of the C20th. //Phil
>> Innes
>
> You lost me: C20th? (Where is my Mensa
> secret decoder ring?)
Doh!
> My theory is that, since 2450 nearly-IMs
> have essentially no intelligence whatsoever,
My theory is that help-bot is a maliciously uneducated dunce, proud to
pronouce on his non-understanding of C20th, and couples that with his usual
stuff, resentment of strong players [every post] and insurmountable
innocence rather than ignorance. Who would blame anyone for taking off on
"C20th" when they never heard of it?
> any research linking chess with intelligence
> must have some (perhaps deeply-hidden)
> flaws.
Let me not make further comment on two pioneers of C20th educational
psychology to a complete ignormus.
Phil Innes
> Okay, after considerable thought I have
> come up with what I believe to be a *real*
> link: between freaky, overinflated egos and
> chess ratings and titles. The evidence is
> all around us.
>
> Rather than (general) intelligence, I have
> found it very helpful if chess was learned
> -- and I mean really learned -- at a young
> age. Take me, for instance; I did not
> learn to play until I was already turning
> old and gray; this explains why I cannot
> *always* beat GetClub like carrots. But
> several players I have known, who were
> what they call "very talented", in fact
> learned the game at a MUCH younger age;
> such players seem to have a quicker grasp,
> a better-developed feel for the game than
> oldsters who showed up late to the party.
>
> Likewise, I have noticed that when I go
> to some distant chess tournaments and
> see "IMs", I later discover that they have
> been competing actively for many years.
> These are no Johnny-come-latelys, who
> just happen to be great at everything they
> try, but well-studied, battle-hardened
> warriors who have honed their chess
> skills to a fine edge. Is it any wonder
> then, that I only draw? Kidding!
>
>
> -- help bot
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Date: 09 Mar 2008 02:39:43
From: Guy Macon
Subject: Re: Chess and Intelligence
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Chess One wrote:
>
>help bot wrote
>
>> My theory is that, since 2450 nearly-IMs
>> have essentially no intelligence whatsoever,
>
>My theory is that help-bot is a maliciously uneducated dunce,
Get a room, you two.
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