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Date: 15 Mar 2008 09:34:36
From: samsloan
Subject: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her program. However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as anybody has been able to find out. Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number of children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our partners' curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: "AF4C 25,000 "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 "Kid Chess 6,000 "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000
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Date: 05 Apr 2008 20:32:02
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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[quote="Condor"]The only one that rather bugs me is that the insurance thing has been going on for so long before somebody brings this back into the light for review.[/quote] Since when? I have been complaining about this "Internet Insurance" from day one. In the first place, I did not think there was any such thing as Internet Insurance. I repeatedly demand that Bill Hall tell us what the Internet Insurance covered. He refused to answer the question and the rest of the board would not back me up on this. All of the things that Ron Suarez is complaining about, I complained about too, at the time they were occurring. The reason you do not know that is most of my complaints were deleted from the USCF Forum as "violations of the AUG". Sam Sloan
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Date: 04 Apr 2008 18:01:01
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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Ron is correct. It was at Channing's insistence that the USCF Purchase "Internet Insurance". In 2006, I made a motion that the Internet insurance be canceled. My motion lost. It is true that a majority voted for it, but that was because Channing was extremely insistent on it. It was also Channing's idea to hold the "Retreat" to Florida. At the time it was first announced, I assumed that Channing was going to pay for it because he had just gotten elected on the basis of being a very wealthy man. No vote was taken and I am sure that the board would never have voted for this. I and many other USCF members were stunned and shocked when we learned that the USCF had to pay for it. At the last Executive Board meeting, Bill Goichberg proposed that the Internet Insurance be canceled. All board members were in favor of this, except for Channing who said that he would resign from the board if the Internet Insurance were canceled. The other board members have been treading lightly about this threat or promise. We are waiting to see what will happen next. Sam Sloan
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Date: 18 Mar 2008 17:52:50
From: Chess Nuggets
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 10:42 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On 15, 12:35 pm, Chess Nuggets <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 15, 9:34 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > > > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > > > program. > > > > However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. > > > Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > > > anybody has been able to find out. > > > > Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > > > > "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number > > > of > > > children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > > > partners' > > > curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > > > > "AF4C 25,000 > > > "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 > > > "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 > > > "Kid Chess 6,000 > > > "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 > > > Why is that so preposterous, ridiculous and absurd? How many children > > do you think have received chess instruction from the Susan Polgar > > Foundation? > > What is the correct number, Mr. Sloan? > > zero Why should I believe you, Sam. Didn't you claim to be a former rated USCF master, and a current USCF rated expert in front of a camera? Perhaps if you had received instruction from Ms. Polgar on how to play chess, you might be able to achieve your dream of being a USCF Master. Susan Polgar does more for chess in one day than you have done in your entire life, Mr. Sloan. What has Sam Sloan ever done for chess in the US?
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Date: 16 Mar 2008 08:21:02
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 4:34 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > program. Hoorah-hoorah-hoorah-Yay Over the hills with the pawns of threehundredthousand kids!
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Date: 16 Mar 2008 04:07:18
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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[quote="samsloan"]Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number of children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our partners' curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: "AF4C 25,000 "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 "Kid Chess 6,000 "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000[/quote] The other programs on this list are believed to actually hire and pay teachers who are sent out to a network of schools who have contracted for their services. Examples are Dean Ippolito's school in New Jersey and, I believe, Sophia Rohde's school in New York, plus Chess-in-the- Schools. Simply faxing the "Polgar curriculum" for free to a school district should not count. The real issues here are that the programs that receive this "endorsement" claim the right to have a banner ad posted on the uschess website and this was the outcome of the "retreat" by insiders to Florida in 2006. Sam Sloan
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Date: 16 Mar 2008 08:00:58
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 20:52:10
From: Quadibloc
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 3:47 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote: > Offramp wrote: > > [Hysterical laughter. A man has a seizure and dies, sadly.] > > The question begs, how does one die sadly? Likely parsing error. It can be sad that someone has a seizure and dies. John Savard
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 20:50:50
From: Quadibloc
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 12:53 pm, [email protected] wrote: > So while FIDE threatens to smuggle guns into Nevis to mout a coup > de ta, to mount a coup d'etat? I realize that FIDE has been hijacked by a Central Asian former Soviet Republic, but I've never heard of a country called Nevis - it sounds like a place in Great Britain, with which, I should think, the CIS would be hesitant about letting any of its members start a war. John Savard
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 20:47:49
From: Quadibloc
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 10:34 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > program. If he had claimed that she had given *birth* to 300,000 children, *that* really would have been "one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims imaginable". But he didn't, although the title of your post could be taken as implying that. Even if Mr. Channing is making false claims, one should still be careful not to, in turn, appear to be making false claims about him! John Savard
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 16:39:38
From:
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 4:47=A0pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote: > Offramp wrote: > > On 15, 7:50 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> samsloan wrote: > >>> In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > >>> imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > >>> program. > >>> However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program.= > >>> Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > >>> anybody has been able to find out. > >>> Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > >>> "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. =A0The number= > >>> of > >>> children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > >>> partners' > >>> curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > >>> "AF4C =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A025,000 > >>> "Berkeley Chess School =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= 5,000 > >>> "Kasparov Foundation =A075,000 - 100,000 > >>> "Kid Chess =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 6,000 > >>> "Susan Polgar Foundation =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0300,000 > >> All of this done by the Susan Polgar Foundation, Inc. with total > >> reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 and total > >> expenses of $79,039.00. =A0Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears t= o > >> be related to chess and children. =A0So that breaks down to a whopping > >> 90cents per child touched by the Susan Polgar Foundation. =A0Maybe they= > >> were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's programs? =A0Maybe Jo= el > >> misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? > > >> Brian Lafferty > > > Carol Channing comes back on stage: > > Hello everyone. > > Oh! Oh! Did I tell you? All of this done by the Susan Polgar > > Foundation, Inc. > > [Laughter] > > ...with total reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 > > and total expenses of $79,039.00. > > [Laughter] > > Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to be related to chess and > > children. =A0[Laughter] > > So that breaks down to a whopping 90cents per child touched by the > > Susan Polgar Foundation. > > [Laughter] > > Maybe they were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's > > programs? > > [Hysterical laughter] > > Maybe Joel misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? > > [Hysterical laughter. A man has a seizure and dies, sadly.] > > The question begs, how does one die sadly?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - This problem of making up stuff really has destroyed all of chess worldwide. All of these fake bomb threats by Paul Truong, now fake numbers from Channing. It is just whatever pops into their head. Truong has this mental thing with BOMBS, and Channing likes big numbers. The Ethics Committee needs to force the chessplayers to quit lying, like the bar assocaition. There is no more truth anymore, and this negative environment has litarelly destroyed all of chess in a world chess war. I speak the truth. Even the UN General Secretary got in on this fight. I have Felony charges in Europe, and becasue I am an Ambassdor, nobody even tells me what the charges were. We are all up shit creek. Kirsan is in front of the boat, and we have no paddle. We are heading for TURD lake if Kirsan doesn't do something fast, and a big whirloolp, and we are about to get washed down the drain.... cus Roberts Permanent Delegate (Ambassador) of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 14:23:27
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 7:50 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected] > wrote: > samsloan wrote: > > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > > program. > > > However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. > > Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > > anybody has been able to find out. > > > Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > > > "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number > > of > > children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > > partners' > > curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > > > "AF4C 25,000 > > "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 > > "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 > > "Kid Chess 6,000 > > "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 > > All of this done by the Susan Polgar Foundation, Inc. with total > reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 and total > expenses of $79,039.00. Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to > be related to chess and children. So that breaks down to a whopping > 90cents per child touched by the Susan Polgar Foundation. Maybe they > were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's programs? Maybe Joel > misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? > > Brian Lafferty Carol Channing comes back on stage: Hello everyone. Oh! Oh! Did I tell you? All of this done by the Susan Polgar Foundation, Inc. [Laughter] ...with total reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 and total expenses of $79,039.00. [Laughter] Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to be related to chess and children. [Laughter] So that breaks down to a whopping 90cents per child touched by the Susan Polgar Foundation. [Laughter] Maybe they were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's programs? [Hysterical laughter] Maybe Joel misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? [Hysterical laughter. A man has a seizure and dies, sadly.]
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 21:47:19
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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Offramp wrote: > On 15, 7:50 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email protected]> wrote: >> samsloan wrote: >>> In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims >>> imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her >>> program. >>> However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. >>> Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as >>> anybody has been able to find out. >>> Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: >>> "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number >>> of >>> children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our >>> partners' >>> curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: >>> "AF4C 25,000 >>> "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 >>> "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 >>> "Kid Chess 6,000 >>> "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 >> All of this done by the Susan Polgar Foundation, Inc. with total >> reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 and total >> expenses of $79,039.00. Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to >> be related to chess and children. So that breaks down to a whopping >> 90cents per child touched by the Susan Polgar Foundation. Maybe they >> were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's programs? Maybe Joel >> misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? >> >> Brian Lafferty > > Carol Channing comes back on stage: > Hello everyone. > Oh! Oh! Did I tell you? All of this done by the Susan Polgar > Foundation, Inc. > [Laughter] > ...with total reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 > and total expenses of $79,039.00. > [Laughter] > Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to be related to chess and > children. [Laughter] > So that breaks down to a whopping 90cents per child touched by the > Susan Polgar Foundation. > [Laughter] > Maybe they were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's > programs? > [Hysterical laughter] > Maybe Joel misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? > [Hysterical laughter. A man has a seizure and dies, sadly.] The question begs, how does one die sadly?
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 19:50:45
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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samsloan wrote: > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > program. > > However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. > Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > anybody has been able to find out. > > Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > > "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number > of > children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > partners' > curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > > "AF4C 25,000 > "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 > "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 > "Kid Chess 6,000 > "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 All of this done by the Susan Polgar Foundation, Inc. with total reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 and total expenses of $79,039.00. Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to be related to chess and children. So that breaks down to a whopping 90cents per child touched by the Susan Polgar Foundation. Maybe they were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's programs? Maybe Joel misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? Brian Lafferty
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Date: 16 Mar 2008 05:45:03
From: Heywood Jablowme
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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Jackass "Brian Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote on 15 2008: > All of this done by the Susan Polgar Foundation, Inc. with total > reported revenue for 2006 per form 990EZ of $ 91,102.00 and total > expenses of $79,039.00. Of those expenses, only $27,035.00 appears to > be related to chess and children. So that breaks down to a whopping > 90cents per child touched by the Susan Polgar Foundation. Maybe they > were facilitating 299,999 kids via other people's programs? $27K on 300K kids makes for 9 cents per child, not 90 cents per child. Maybe the jackass should cut back on his weekend allowance of coke? > Maybe Joel misread the numbers off the cocktail napkin? Maybe Joel didn't, but the braying jackass did. > Brian Lafferty
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 12:20:43
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 4:34 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > program. It was actually Carol Channing. She said: "Hey! Didya hear about that Polgar woman? The one in the sheitl? I wouldn't say she likes to have oompah oompah but she has three hundred thousand kids! Didya like that one? No, not you. The one in the sheitl. Is it sheitl or shtetl? For you - shtetl. Polgar has a friend called Sam Sloan. He's known as the bacon-crunching sheitl-bashing bishop-banging space-suit-farting lap-top-seeking Morden-cordon-Auden- Warden and here's a song about the USCF. [laughter] [Carol sings] Polgar polgar polgar, koonoo mata mia. Tingo tingo tingo, Kala kala kala ... [A demon appears on the stage] Carol: Gaaaaaaah!! Audience: Gaaaaaah!!!
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 11:53:17
From:
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 1:01=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > I was teaching a chess class in the Queens Public Library in Flushing > Queens New York near to the Polgar Chess Center for a number of years. > I never met even one kid who was in the Polgar Chess Program. However, > many of the kids in my class were also in the Chess in the Schools > with IM Yuri Lapshun as their teacher or were in other chess programs > around the city. > > The number of 300,000 probably represents the number of all kids > combined in chess programs in the entire United States. The USCF only > has about 30,000 scholastic members. If the 300,000 claim is true, > then she has ten times more kids in her personal program than the USCF > has in the entire United States. > > Sam Sloan So while FIDE threatens to smuggle guns into Nevis to mout a coup de ta, Polgar makes the truth more hard to find with these crazy claims. Just what is truthful anymore? Are we going to have another chess election and Chessplayers just start SHOOTING in Nevis? Who can call who crazy? The Channing lies like this, I am attempted with FIDE arrest, and S Poglar keeps up with these ridiculous claims. 30,000 would be crazy..... cus Roberts
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 11:03:33
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 11:34 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > program. > > However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. > Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > anybody has been able to find out. > > Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > > "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number > of > children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > partners' > curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > > "AF4C 25,000 > "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 > "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 > "Kid Chess 6,000 > "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 It reminds me of the alleged 'hundreds of millions of viewers' a 2005 chess broadcast allegedly drew. Trolgar was involved with that as well.
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 11:01:31
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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I was teaching a chess class in the Queens Public Library in Flushing Queens New York near to the Polgar Chess Center for a number of years. I never met even one kid who was in the Polgar Chess Program. However, many of the kids in my class were also in the Chess in the Schools with IM Yuri Lapshun as their teacher or were in other chess programs around the city. The number of 300,000 probably represents the number of all kids combined in chess programs in the entire United States. The USCF only has about 30,000 scholastic members. If the 300,000 claim is true, then she has ten times more kids in her personal program than the USCF has in the entire United States. Sam Sloan
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 10:42:33
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 12:35 pm, Chess Nuggets <[email protected] > wrote: > On 15, 9:34 am, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > > program. > > > However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. > > Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > > anybody has been able to find out. > > > Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > > > "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number > > of > > children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > > partners' > > curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > > > "AF4C 25,000 > > "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 > > "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 > > "Kid Chess 6,000 > > "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 > > Why is that so preposterous, ridiculous and absurd? How many children > do you think have received chess instruction from the Susan Polgar > Foundation? > What is the correct number, Mr. Sloan? zero
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Date: 15 Mar 2008 10:35:09
From: Chess Nuggets
Subject: Re: Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids
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On 15, 9:34 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > In one of the most preposterous, ridiculous and absurd claims > imaginable, Joel Channing claims that Polgar has 300,000 kids in her > program. > > However, there is no evidence that Polgar has any kids in her program. > Polgar has no schools, no students and no program anywhere, as far as > anybody has been able to find out. > > Here is what Joel Channing wrote in the BINFOS: > > "We currently have five executed endorsement agreements. The number > of > children recently reported as receiving chess instruction from our > partners' > curricula and/or participating in their other programs is as follows: > > "AF4C 25,000 > "Berkeley Chess School 5,000 > "Kasparov Foundation 75,000 - 100,000 > "Kid Chess 6,000 > "Susan Polgar Foundation 300,000 Why is that so preposterous, ridiculous and absurd? How many children do you think have received chess instruction from the Susan Polgar Foundation? What is the correct number, Mr. Sloan?
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