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Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:50:30
From: Offramp
Subject: Bitter & Twisted
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I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much of it. I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, and I was driving home at tremendous speed when I hit a lamppost or tree or something. Wrecked the car. When I got out I was relieved to see that I had taken someone else's car by mistake! My whole family thought it a great joke!
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Date: 30 Jan 2009 12:28:10
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Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 30, 3:12=A0pm, madams <[email protected] > wrote: > [email protected] wrote: > > . > > > =A0Luftmenschen: Die Schachspieler von Wien for all those who read Germ= an. > > Trans: How to fly the Fw-190, eat sausage & play chess all @ the same > time.. > > m. Ah yes, the FW-190: http://www.focke-wulf190.com/ A very good plane, though by the time of the Allied invasion the Luftwaffe didn't have many pilots of comparable quality. I recently read the comments of an inexperienced German pilot who got to fly but two sorties in an FW-190, in 1944. In the second his squadron was attacked by P-38s. He described the ensuing action as "being chopped up by experts."
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Date: 31 Jan 2009 07:12:31
From: madams
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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[email protected] wrote: . > Luftmenschen: Die Schachspieler von Wien for all those who read German. Trans: How to fly the Fw-190, eat sausage & play chess all @ the same time.. m.
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On Jan 29, 4:58=A0pm, [email protected] wrote: > On 27 Jan, 22:44, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twiste= d > > > > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > > > > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too muc= h > > > > of it. > > > > Bitter is good. =A0Over the past decade I've definitely become a devo= tee > > > of heavily hopped ales. =A0Though I do like a good English ale as wel= l, > > > hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves > > > a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. > > > There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, > > > of course, unavailable in these parts. > > > > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, > > > > You really ought to let me drive. =A0I've no license to lose! > > > > I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, no= t > > > ukfdra) =A0I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recen= t > > > discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually > > > underestimated him!). > > > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is = worth > > > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zuric= h > > > 53, > > > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > > > them as a given. > > > =A0 Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are > > worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. > > =A0 Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: > > > =A0 Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) > > =A0 The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) > > =A0 Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) > > =A0 The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) > > =A0 Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards > > (1965) > > =A0 Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) > > =A0 My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, > > 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) > > =A0 The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935) > "Draw!" by Wolfgang Heidenfeld (edited by John Nunn) - a marvellously annotated game collection.- Hide quoted text - To put in a plug for an obscure modern book, I recommend Luftmenschen: Die Schachspieler von Wien for all those who read German. Jerry Spinrad > - Show quoted text -
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The availabilty to read old material on-line opens up new possibilities. The Westminster Papers and City of London Chess Magazine, available on google books, read very well. I found A Century of British Chess quite interesting reading, as are the books of the 1st and 5th American Chess Congress (books of 2, 3, and 4 are not worth reading). The 1st 2 volumes of American Chess Magazine (the late 19th century version) are also available and interesting. More and more is becoming available all the time. Recently, many of Steinitz' columns in the NY Tribune (through August 1891, and picking up again from Jan 1893 through Apr 1893 at the moment) became available through the Library of Congress website, and I imagine that it will not be long before all of them appear there. He was really an excellent annotator. I have not seen his International Chess Magazine; the mix of wonderful analysis and violent personal attacks would prpbably make excellent reading. Jerry Spinrad On Jan 29, 9:39=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > On Jan 27, 5:44=A0pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twiste= d > > > > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > > > > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too muc= h > > > > of it. > > > > Bitter is good. =A0Over the past decade I've definitely become a devo= tee > > > of heavily hopped ales. =A0Though I do like a good English ale as wel= l, > > > hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves > > > a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. > > > There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, > > > of course, unavailable in these parts. > > > > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, > > > > You really ought to let me drive. =A0I've no license to lose! > > > > I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, no= t > > > ukfdra) =A0I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recen= t > > > discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually > > > underestimated him!). > > > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is = worth > > > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zuric= h > > > 53, > > > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > > > them as a given. > > > =A0 Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are > > worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. > > =A0 Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: > > > =A0 Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) > > =A0 The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) > > =A0 Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) > > =A0 The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) > > =A0 Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards > > (1965) > > =A0 Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) > > =A0 My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, > > 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) > > =A0 The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935) > > =A0 Some others I find very useful and interesting: > > =A0 Chess Tournament Crosstables 1851-1900 (1969) > =A0 Chess Tournament Crosstables 1901-1910 (1971) > =A0 Chess Tournament Crosstables 1911-1920 (1972) > =A0 Chess Tournament Crosstables 1921-1930 (1974) > =A0 Chess Tournaments =97 A Checklist 1849-1950 (1985) > =A0 Chess Personalia (1987) > > =A0 All the above by that supreme chess archivist, Jeremy Gaige. And I > should mention: > > =A0 Hundert Jahre Schachzweik=E4mpfe 1851-1950 by Dr. P. Feenstra-Kuiper > (1967) > > =A0 These are all pure reference tomes for the serious chess historian > or history buff, probably not all that interesting to the average > reader. I find them invaluable in preparing the International Chess > Calendar every year (http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=3D1096). > > =A0 Another similarly useful book, which does have some narrative text > and is therefore more accessible, is "Chess: The Records" by Ken Whyld > (1986). Beaucoup data on World Championships (men's, women's, juniors, > U-16, correspondence, blind, etc.), Candidates tournaments and > matches, Olympiads, major tournaments, national and major city > championships, etc.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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Date: 29 Jan 2009 14:58:21
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Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On 27 Jan, 22:44, [email protected] wrote: > On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted > > > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > > > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much > > > of it. > > > Bitter is good. =A0Over the past decade I've definitely become a devote= e > > of heavily hopped ales. =A0Though I do like a good English ale as well, > > hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves > > a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. > > There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, > > of course, unavailable in these parts. > > > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, > > > You really ought to let me drive. =A0I've no license to lose! > > > I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, not > > ukfdra) =A0I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recent > > discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually > > underestimated him!). > > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is wo= rth > > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zurich > > 53, > > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > > them as a given. > > =A0 Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are > worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. > =A0 Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: > > =A0 Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) > =A0 The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) > =A0 Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) > =A0 The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) > =A0 Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards > (1965) > =A0 Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) > =A0 My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, > 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) > =A0 The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935) "Draw!" by Wolfgang Heidenfeld (edited by John Nunn) - a marvellously annotated game collection.
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Date: 29 Jan 2009 07:39:00
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Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 27, 5:44=A0pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted > > > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > > > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much > > > of it. > > > Bitter is good. =A0Over the past decade I've definitely become a devote= e > > of heavily hopped ales. =A0Though I do like a good English ale as well, > > hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves > > a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. > > There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, > > of course, unavailable in these parts. > > > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, > > > You really ought to let me drive. =A0I've no license to lose! > > > I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, not > > ukfdra) =A0I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recent > > discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually > > underestimated him!). > > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is wo= rth > > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zurich > > 53, > > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > > them as a given. > > =A0 Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are > worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. > =A0 Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: > > =A0 Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) > =A0 The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) > =A0 Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) > =A0 The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) > =A0 Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards > (1965) > =A0 Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) > =A0 My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, > 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) > =A0 The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935) Some others I find very useful and interesting: Chess Tournament Crosstables 1851-1900 (1969) Chess Tournament Crosstables 1901-1910 (1971) Chess Tournament Crosstables 1911-1920 (1972) Chess Tournament Crosstables 1921-1930 (1974) Chess Tournaments =97 A Checklist 1849-1950 (1985) Chess Personalia (1987) All the above by that supreme chess archivist, Jeremy Gaige. And I should mention: Hundert Jahre Schachzweik=E4mpfe 1851-1950 by Dr. P. Feenstra-Kuiper (1967) These are all pure reference tomes for the serious chess historian or history buff, probably not all that interesting to the average reader. I find them invaluable in preparing the International Chess Calendar every year (http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=3D1096). Another similarly useful book, which does have some narrative text and is therefore more accessible, is "Chess: The Records" by Ken Whyld (1986). Beaucoup data on World Championships (men's, women's, juniors, U-16, correspondence, blind, etc.), Candidates tournaments and matches, Olympiads, major tournaments, national and major city championships, etc.
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Date: 28 Jan 2009 12:23:31
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Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 28, 2:42=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jan 27, 5:44=A0pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is = worth > > > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zuric= h > > > 53, > > > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > > > them as a given. > > > =A0 Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are > > worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. > > My thought was that these have been discussed here quite a bit in the > past few years, as have certain classics from the earlier period. =A0But > some great books are sliding into obscurity. =A0Or so it seems to me. > > > =A0 Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: > > > =A0 Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) > > A remarkable book, full of real games played under stress. And Pachman does a good job of setting the scene. So often, examining a game in the quiet of one's home, one sees it in isolation, as an abstract composition. But Pachman puts the game in full context, telling the reader about the players, the tournament standings at that moment, what was at stake, and what effect the game may have had on later history. And his selection of games is good; many are ones where careers were made or unmade, or that marked the end of an old era and the beginning of a new, or were similarly significant. > > =A0 The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) > > I =A0thought it was OK, but no more. =A0Why was I wrong? I wouldn't say you were wrong; probably just a matter of taste. There are lot of similar books in this genre, the general historical survey of the world champions and their major rivals. I like Hartston's prose style and personal insights, e.g. Alekhine's "book of the [New York] 1927 tournament ... lays out in great detail all this thoughts about Capablanca. It is one of the greatest character assassinations in chess literature." > > =A0 Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) > > IIRC I have never even seen a copy of this. =A0Could you tell me a bit > more about it? It's somewhat like Euwe's "The Development of Chess Style," a general historical survey, but concerned less with individuals and more with the development of opening theory, strategic ideas, and most of all the concept of dynamic play. Starting with the time of Morphy, it discusses the development of chess through the Romantic, Classical, and Hypermodern periods into the era of Soviet hegemony. > > =A0 The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) > > Very enjoyable. It has quite a number of minor factual errors (Winter compiled a long list), but I don't feel that detracts much from the book's main theme, which is to portray the world champions as human beings and give insights to their personalities. Loved his image of Alekhine voluntarily locking himself in an oubliette to play Capablanca. > > =A0 Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards > > (1965) > > This also sounds like something I should read. It's an academic work by an Oxford don. Compared to Soltis' "Soviet Chess 1917-1991" it's more scholarly, game-poor but fact- and history- rich, drawing on a lot of Russian sources most Western writers would not have. Has a lot about the administrative aspects of the Soviet chess machine, and the propaganda use chess was put to in the USSR. > > =A0 Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) > > A perennial favourite. =A0I wish I had seen this book when I was a B > player. It's the book that, more than any other, changed me from a complete patzer to a B-player. > > =A0 My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, > > 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) > > I read volume one by the "predict Alekhine's next move" method, then > didn't have the energy to do volume two. > > > =A0 The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935) > > Another book I should have read when younger. =A0For years I played, not > so much to win, as to avoid ever losing a pawn. =A0I never sacrificed > anything unless I could prove that the material would come back, or > mate result. =A0Chess became much more fun when I started sacrificing - > soundly or otherwise. > > William Hyde
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Date: 28 Jan 2009 11:42:16
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 27, 5:44=A0pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is wo= rth > > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zurich > > 53, > > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > > them as a given. > > =A0 Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are > worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. My thought was that these have been discussed here quite a bit in the past few years, as have certain classics from the earlier period. But some great books are sliding into obscurity. Or so it seems to me. > =A0 Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: > > =A0 Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) A remarkable book, full of real games played under stress. > =A0 The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) I thought it was OK, but no more. Why was I wrong? > =A0 Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) IIRC I have never even seen a copy of this. Could you tell me a bit more about it? > =A0 The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) Very enjoyable. > =A0 Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards > (1965) This also sounds like something I should read. > =A0 Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) A perennial favourite. I wish I had seen this book when I was a B player. > =A0 My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, > 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) I read volume one by the "predict Alekhine's next move" method, then didn't have the energy to do volume two. > =A0 The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935) Another book I should have read when younger. For years I played, not so much to win, as to avoid ever losing a pawn. I never sacrificed anything unless I could prove that the material would come back, or mate result. Chess became much more fun when I started sacrificing - soundly or otherwise. William Hyde
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Date: 27 Jan 2009 21:57:34
From: Offramp
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 27, 9:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted > > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much > > of it. > > Bitter is good. =A0Over the past decade I've definitely become a devotee > of heavily hopped ales. =A0Though I do like a good English ale as well, > hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves > a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. > There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, > of course, unavailable in these parts. > > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, > > You really ought to let me drive. =A0I've no license to lose! > > I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, not > ukfdra) =A0I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recent > discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually > underestimated him!). > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is wort= h > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zurich > 53, > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > them as a given. > > William Hyde Grandmaster Achievement and The Sicilian Labyrinth by Lev Polugaevsky.
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Date: 27 Jan 2009 14:44:00
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Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 27, 4:43=A0pm, William Hyde <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted > > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much > > of it. > > Bitter is good. =A0Over the past decade I've definitely become a devotee > of heavily hopped ales. =A0Though I do like a good English ale as well, > hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves > a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. > There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, > of course, unavailable in these parts. > > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, > > You really ought to let me drive. =A0I've no license to lose! > > I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, not > ukfdra) =A0I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recent > discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually > underestimated him!). > > So a question to all. =A0What pre-1990 chess book do you =A0think is wort= h > discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zurich > 53, > My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll =A0take > them as a given. Bill, wouldn't it be easier to list post-1990 chess books that are worthwhile? At least they'd be fewer in number. Anyway, for what it's worth, a few of my pre-1990 favorites: Decisive Games in Chess History, by Ludek Pachman (1972) The Kings of Chess, by William Hartston (1985) Dynamic Chess, by R.N. Coles (1966) The Human Side of Chess, by Fred Reinfeld (1952) Soviet Chess: Chess and Communism in the USSR, by D.J. Richards (1965) Logical Chess: Move by Move, by Irving Chernev (1957) My Best Games of Chess, by Alexander Alekhine (two volumes, 1908-1923 and 1924-1937) The Art of Sacrifice, by Rudolf Spielmann (1935)
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Date: 27 Jan 2009 13:43:11
From: William Hyde
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote: > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much > of it. > Bitter is good. Over the past decade I've definitely become a devotee of heavily hopped ales. Though I do like a good English ale as well, hard as they are to come by in this part of Toronto (local bar serves a toxic mess of ale that's been sitting in the tanks since D day).. There's a wonderfully bitter IPA brewed not ten miles from here, but, of course, unavailable in these parts. > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, You really ought to let me drive. I've no license to lose! I think we should talk about chess books more here (rgcm, that is, not ukfdra) I'm browsing the "candidates 68" book, inspired by a recent discussion as to Spassky's strength (looks like I actually underestimated him!). So a question to all. What pre-1990 chess book do you think is worth discussing here and now? Let's leave off some classics, such as Zurich 53, My System, Lasker's Manual, and Fischer's 60 memorable, we'll take them as a given. William Hyde
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Date: 28 Jan 2009 21:00:04
From: Esra Sdrawkcab
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:43:11 -0000, William Hyde <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jan 25, 2:50�am, Offramp <[email protected]> wrote: >> I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted >> (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in >> especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much >> of it. >> Noting the x-post, I wonder if the pub (name lost due to beer) in Eton still has a strong chess club? -- "Nuns ! NUNS ! REVERSE ! REVERSE !"
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Date: 27 Jan 2009 04:04:11
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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probably ran over someone
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Date: 26 Jan 2009 22:21:38
From: Simon Cooper
Subject: Re: Bitter & Twisted
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On Jan 25, 2:50=A0am, Offramp <[email protected] > wrote: > I had two very good ales in the Spoon's last night. Bitter & Twisted > (3.8%) and Ale Lang Syne (4.5%). The second one was brought in > especially for Burns' Night, and unfortunately I drank much too much > of it. > > I had a lot of trouble getting back in the car, and I was driving home > at tremendous speed when I hit a lamppost or tree or something. > Wrecked the car. When I got out I was relieved to see that I had taken > someone else's car by mistake! Probably just as well you drank all that beer, otherwise it might have hurt too.
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