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Date: 15 Jul 2008 17:08:57
From: samsloan
Subject: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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Beat by a Computer on eBay
Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
Schuster.
The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=320272393065
Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
hitting the refresh key.
Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
outbid me. I rushed to place a higher bid but my computer is not that
fast and just before I got my bid in the time was up.
I am aware that there are computer programs to enable a bidder on eBay
to place a bid just seconds before the time is up. That is obviously
what this person did because it would be almost impossible for a human
to time a bid so perfectly as to come in just ten seconds before the
end. A normal human could never do that.
The bidder is named bookforlove
http://myworld.ebay.com/bookforlove/
He is probably sitting there laughing his ass off that his computer
program beat me by ten seconds. He probably does not even care about
the book. He probably plans just to flip it to somebody. Meanwhile I
really need that book.
But I am going to get that guy. I am going to find out who bookforlove
is. He thinks this is a big joke. I am not joking. He is no better
than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 10:32:14
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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That is not the problem bookforlove has.
His problem is that somebody reprinted the book today!!!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891463
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Date: 27 Jul 2008 20:17:04
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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The same bidder, Bookforlove, also got the next book to go on sale
with ebay.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=270257390499
This time he bid with only 13 seconds left.
But I have a little surprise for him. The value of his inventory is
about to go way down.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 00:11:54
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:17:04 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>The same bidder, Bookforlove, also got the next book to go on sale
>with ebay.
>
>http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=270257390499
>
>This time he bid with only 13 seconds left.
>
>But I have a little surprise for him. The value of his inventory is
>about to go way down.
>
I think I saw that movie. The book the seller (played by Forrest
Tucker) offering was printed using disappearing ink on the pages where
the end moves were listed. The buyer (played by Larry Storch)
intended to use Fischer's moves in a high stakes chess game to be held
in a spooky castle in Romania against an international chess champion
and renowned farrier for the Lippizaner stables (played by Vincent
Price). Storch had bet the deed to the family pet cemetery on the
outcome.
At the last minute, Storch's girlfriend (played by Mickey Rooney in
drag)(chess players don't exactly pull lookers, you know) discovered
that Fischer was using the famous J.S. Sarratt end moves because the
original notes had been written in onion juice and holding a match
under the page revealed them. Storch won the match and used winnings
to expand the family pet cemetery's revenue by adding a giant toilet
bowl where owners of deceased goldfish could give them a fitting send-
off.
Unfortunately, Storch's character died at the end of the movie. He
was standing on the side of the giant toilet bowl bragging about his
victory and fell in and drowned.
You might say he was flushed by his success.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 18:57:40
From: jtees4
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:08:57 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>Beat by a Computer on eBay
>
>Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
>edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
>July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
>
>The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
>Schuster.
>
>The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=320272393065
>
>Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
>here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
>hitting the refresh key.
>
>Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
>outbid me. I rushed to place a higher bid but my computer is not that
>fast and just before I got my bid in the time was up.
>
>I am aware that there are computer programs to enable a bidder on eBay
>to place a bid just seconds before the time is up. That is obviously
>what this person did because it would be almost impossible for a human
>to time a bid so perfectly as to come in just ten seconds before the
>end. A normal human could never do that.
>
>The bidder is named bookforlove
>http://myworld.ebay.com/bookforlove/
>
>He is probably sitting there laughing his ass off that his computer
>program beat me by ten seconds. He probably does not even care about
>the book. He probably plans just to flip it to somebody. Meanwhile I
>really need that book.
>
>But I am going to get that guy. I am going to find out who bookforlove
>is. He thinks this is a big joke. I am not joking. He is no better
>than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
>
>Sam Sloan
Your "most generous" bid was not generous enough. The time a bid is
laced is not relavent...the amount of the bid is what matters.
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 13:13:14
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 19, 3:55 pm, Pogonip <[email protected] > wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
> > The suspension notice came at 5:09 PM. I did not see it right away
> > because at 4:40 PM I had left my house to mail some books I had sold
> > on ebay. The post office closes at 5:00 PM. I saw it when I came home
> > at 11:00 PM.
>
> > It says, "INV NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension - User
> > [email protected] is Linked to a Suspended User".
>
> > I am trying to find out who the "suspended user" is. Just a few
> > minutes before this happened, Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell, a long time
> > antagonist, posted that he was going to complain to the Sheriff of
> > Amherst County Virginia about my website. At the same time I
> > complained about a book I had purchased on ebay for one cent from Bill
> > Brock and I have not received the book yet. I am wondering if either
> > of those two things had something to do with me being suspended on
> > ebay.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> If they told you that they linked you to a suspended user, then they've
> connected you to a suspended user. Someone in your household, someone
> who used your credit card, someone who used the same computer that you
> did -- take a look around and you'll find the suspended user. IF you
> have a good explanation, you can appeal.
> --
> Joanne
> stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.comhttp://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
Are they going to tell me who the suspended user is and what links me
to him?
I first thought of my son. He is active on ebay but he is not
suspended so it could not be him.
I sent them an email but no answer yet. Will they answer and if so
when?
Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 18:13:46
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>
>Are they going to tell me who the suspended user is and what links me
>to him?
Probably not.
>I first thought of my son. He is active on ebay but he is not
>suspended so it could not be him.
Often it's because it looks like someone you are connected with bid on
one of your auctions. Shill bidding.
>I sent them an email but no answer yet. Will they answer and if so
>when?
Don't hold your breath.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 17:48:22
From: Arnie Quarry
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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Will they answer and if so
<when?
No, they will never respond. You are toast.
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 13:22:17
From: Pogonip
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan wrote:
> On Jul 19, 3:55 pm, Pogonip <[email protected]> wrote:
>> samsloan wrote:
>>> The suspension notice came at 5:09 PM. I did not see it right away
>>> because at 4:40 PM I had left my house to mail some books I had sold
>>> on ebay. The post office closes at 5:00 PM. I saw it when I came home
>>> at 11:00 PM.
>>> It says, "INV NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension - User
>>> [email protected] is Linked to a Suspended User".
>>> I am trying to find out who the "suspended user" is. Just a few
>>> minutes before this happened, Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell, a long time
>>> antagonist, posted that he was going to complain to the Sheriff of
>>> Amherst County Virginia about my website. At the same time I
>>> complained about a book I had purchased on ebay for one cent from Bill
>>> Brock and I have not received the book yet. I am wondering if either
>>> of those two things had something to do with me being suspended on
>>> ebay.
>>> Sam Sloan
>> If they told you that they linked you to a suspended user, then they've
>> connected you to a suspended user. Someone in your household, someone
>> who used your credit card, someone who used the same computer that you
>> did -- take a look around and you'll find the suspended user. IF you
>> have a good explanation, you can appeal.
>> --
>> Joanne
>> stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.comhttp://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
>
> Are they going to tell me who the suspended user is and what links me
> to him?
>
> I first thought of my son. He is active on ebay but he is not
> suspended so it could not be him.
>
> I sent them an email but no answer yet. Will they answer and if so
> when?
>
> Sam Sloan
I don't know for sure. They used to tell you who it was, unless they
thought it was so obvious that you were just playing games with them.
That has happened with some users, especially some who have had multiple
accounts suspended, yet keep coming back with a new ID, new first name,
etc. Be aware that if your wife, child, brother-in-law, grandfather who
has used your address or your computer and been suspended, that connects
you sufficiently to suspend you, too.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 11:23:18
From: rjn
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> I was just suspended from EBay, a few minutes ago.
> Is it possible that they suspended me because they
> do not like my postings to this group?
Could be:
"But I am going to get that guy. I am going to find
out who <deleted > is."
Making threats of physical harm (or possibly so
construed) against other eBay users is a Policy violation.
<http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-unwelcome-email-threats.html >
I wouldn't have read it that way, but perhaps someone did.
Although there is some evidence that eBay employees monitor
amoe, there's never been any indication that they've taken
action against a user for merely complaining about eBay,
or about some eBay user (when only vaguely identified).
Where the postings are evidence of Policy violations,
or actual libel, amoe visibility may hasten action.
Posting Contact Info about other users in particular
seems to awaken the CSRs.
But you don't have to wait for the eBay amoe Squad to
stumble onto it. Regular readers and lurkers here, as well
as any other parties in the transaction at hand, may file
a complaint and include the amoe reference.
--
Regards, Bob Niland mailto:[email protected]
http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 04:09:41
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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The suspension notice came at 5:09 PM. I did not see it right away
because at 4:40 PM I had left my house to mail some books I had sold
on ebay. The post office closes at 5:00 PM. I saw it when I came home
at 11:00 PM.
It says, "INV NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension - User
[email protected] is Linked to a Suspended User".
I am trying to find out who the "suspended user" is. Just a few
minutes before this happened, Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell, a long time
antagonist, posted that he was going to complain to the Sheriff of
Amherst County Virginia about my website. At the same time I
complained about a book I had purchased on ebay for one cent from Bill
Brock and I have not received the book yet. I am wondering if either
of those two things had something to do with me being suspended on
ebay.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 12:55:30
From: Pogonip
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan wrote:
> The suspension notice came at 5:09 PM. I did not see it right away
> because at 4:40 PM I had left my house to mail some books I had sold
> on ebay. The post office closes at 5:00 PM. I saw it when I came home
> at 11:00 PM.
>
> It says, "INV NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension - User
> [email protected] is Linked to a Suspended User".
>
> I am trying to find out who the "suspended user" is. Just a few
> minutes before this happened, Rob ("The Robber") Mitchell, a long time
> antagonist, posted that he was going to complain to the Sheriff of
> Amherst County Virginia about my website. At the same time I
> complained about a book I had purchased on ebay for one cent from Bill
> Brock and I have not received the book yet. I am wondering if either
> of those two things had something to do with me being suspended on
> ebay.
>
> Sam Sloan
If they told you that they linked you to a suspended user, then they've
connected you to a suspended user. Someone in your household, someone
who used your credit card, someone who used the same computer that you
did -- take a look around and you'll find the suspended user. IF you
have a good explanation, you can appeal.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 13:42:58
From: R. Totale
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:09:41 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
> I am wondering if either
>of those two things had something to do with me being suspended on
>ebay.
You see, it's just as I told you.
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 04:12:56
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan wrote:
> the Sheriff of Amherst County Virginia
He's one of us.
Lumpy
You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 08:40:02
From: Don Lancaster
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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Lumpy wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
>> the Sheriff of Amherst County Virginia
>
> He's one of us.
>
>
> Lumpy
>
> You Played on Lawrence Welk?
> Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
>
> www.LumpyMusic.com
>
>
Um, two actually. If you count the late at night stuff.
--
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Date: 18 Jul 2008 21:54:48
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 19, 12:15 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> I was just suspended from EBay, a few minutes ago.
>
> I have no idea of the reason. I have been a member of eBay for 5
> years. I have a 100% record.
>
> Is it possible that they suspended me because they do not like my
> postings to this group?
Is it possible that threatening to "get" bookforlove
was taken as a /real/ threat? Maybe they just
aren't familiar with the Mr. Sloans, the Mr. Repas,
and others who make these "threats"? And what
about that crazy guy from St. Kitts-- the one who
was always "threatening" to get people? Or...
maybe it was Rob "da robber" Mitchell? Anyway,
ebay can sometimes be a real bear; I "won" an
auction a while back where the seller was rated
about 2700 USCF equivalent, but he took me to
the cleaners and I never got 'round to doing
anything about it. Ninety-nine percent of his
customers were happy as clams, while I expect
I made up the other one percent. I sure wish I
had "gotten" him-- by filing complaints and
posting his due feedback. Procrastination
doesn't pay. (No, Mr. Sloan, not /prostitution/;
procrastination is where you put things off, and
never seem to get around to doing them.)
-- help bot
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Date: 18 Jul 2008 21:15:20
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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I was just suspended from EBay, a few minutes ago.
I have no idea of the reason. I have been a member of eBay for 5
years. I have a 100% record.
Is it possible that they suspended me because they do not like my
postings to this group?
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 17:46:47
From: Arnie Quarry
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was just suspended from EBay, a few minutes ago. I have no idea of the
reason. I have been a member of eBay for 5 years. I have a 100% record.
Is it possible that they suspended me because they <do not like my postings
to this group?
Yes. You never should have revealed your ID and then made negative
comments. Just like in North Korea.....any negative comment about "fearless
leader" will not be tolerated. Only difference is they suspend your ability
to breathe air in North Korea.
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 14:05:05
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
>I was just suspended from EBay, a few minutes ago.
>
> I have no idea of the reason. I have been a member of eBay for 5
> years. I have a 100% record.
>
> Is it possible that they suspended me because they do not like my
> postings to this group?
No, but it is very possible that they discovered that practically
every one of your book sales constitutes copyright infringement.
They don't like the legal costs that they will inevitably incur.
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Date: 19 Jul 2008 06:35:43
From: R. Totale
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:15:20 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>Is it possible that they suspended me because they do not like my
>postings to this group?
No one at eBay cares what people say in this newsgroup. We suspended
you because there is no one in the world less competent to use eBay
than you. I checked.
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 15:06:30
From: white, fat and fugly
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 16, 2:27=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > what? =A0that book? =A0we got two editions here in our library and a ol=
d
> > book seller has one in their store.
>
> > huh?
>
> > why $150?
>
> No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
> checked. Also, your old book seller does not have one either.
>
> What they probably have is "Bobby Fischer's Chess Games" which is a
> different book.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischers-Chess-Games-Fischer/dp/038508627X/
>
> Sam Sloan
like i said.. you're not that good, you've just proven that.
do without.
you didn't check jack and or shit.
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 15:03:41
From: white, fat and fugly
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 16, 2:27=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > what? =A0that book? =A0we got two editions here in our library and a ol=
d
> > book seller has one in their store.
>
> > huh?
>
> > why $150?
>
> No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
> checked. Also, your old book seller does not have one either.
>
> What they probably have is "Bobby Fischer's Chess Games" which is a
> different book.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischers-Chess-Games-Fischer/dp/038508627X/
>
> Sam Sloan
what pisses you off is we have and you don't.
simple as that.
can't tolerate that, no wonder you do without.
you either ask if we want to sell or the address and phone number of
the book seller OR not.
i don't give a fuck.
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 12:42:30
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 16, 3:24 pm, R. Totale <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:27:50 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
>
> >> what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
> >> book seller has one in their store.
>
> >> huh?
>
> >> why $150?
>
> >No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
> >checked.
>
> http://www.catalog.slsa.sa.gov.au/search/t?SEARCH=Bobby+Fischer%27s+g...
Thank you. That is the book.
Apparently they are not connected to worldcat.org
worldcat.org only lists the British edition.
http://www.worldcat.org/
Sam Sloan
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 11:56:36
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 16, 2:42 pm, "Jim Menning" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
> >> book seller has one in their store.
>
> >> huh?
>
> >> why $150?
>
> > No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
> > checked. Also, your old book seller does not have one either.
>
> > What they probably have is "Bobby Fischer's Chess Games" which is a
> > different book.
>
> >http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischers-Chess-Games-Fischer/dp/038508627X/
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Telegraph Books in Berkeley, CA has a copy.
>
> http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1043568602&searchurl...
>
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Right. Exactly. That is Moe's Bookstore on Telegraph Avenue in
Berkeley. I called them several times over a period of a month about
this book and spoke to Lawrence there but I could not convince them to
come down from their price of $225.
Also, what they have is the British Edition. The one offered on Ebay
was the American edition. I do not know what the difference is between
the two books.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 15:13:22
From: clams_casino
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan wrote:
> I do not know what the difference is between
>the two books.
>
>
>
Eleven.
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 12:11:02
From: NotEbay
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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In article <0e9d16d3-4b43-46c5-a2b8-72620ab7319c@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com >,
samsloan says...
>
>On Jul 16, 2:42 pm, "Jim Menning" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
>> >> book seller has one in their store.
>>
>> >> huh?
>>
>> >> why $150?
>>
>> > No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
>> > checked. Also, your old book seller does not have one either.
>>
>> > What they probably have is "Bobby Fischer's Chess Games" which is a
>> > different book.
>>
>> >http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischers-Chess-Games-Fischer/dp/038508627X/
>>
>> > Sam Sloan
>>
>> Telegraph Books in Berkeley, CA has a copy.
>>
>> http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1043568602&searchurl...
>>
>> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
>Right. Exactly. That is Moe's Bookstore on Telegraph Avenue in
>Berkeley. I called them several times over a period of a month about
>this book and spoke to Lawrence there but I could not convince them to
>come down from their price of $225.
>
>Also, what they have is the British Edition. The one offered on Ebay
>was the American edition. I do not know what the difference is between
>the two books.
>
>Sam Sloan
With the British Edition, the cover is in colour.
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 11:27:50
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected] >
wrote:
> what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
> book seller has one in their store.
>
> huh?
>
> why $150?
No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
checked. Also, your old book seller does not have one either.
What they probably have is "Bobby Fischer's Chess Games" which is a
different book.
http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischers-Chess-Games-Fischer/dp/038508627X/
Sam Sloan
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 15:24:36
From: R. Totale
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:27:50 -0700 (PDT), samsloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
>> book seller has one in their store.
>>
>> huh?
>>
>> why $150?
>
>No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
>checked.
http://www.catalog.slsa.sa.gov.au/search/t?SEARCH=Bobby+Fischer%27s+games+of+chess
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 13:42:24
From: Jim Menning
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, "white, fat and fugly" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
>> book seller has one in their store.
>>
>> huh?
>>
>> why $150?
>
> No, you do not. No library in the world has this book. I already
> checked. Also, your old book seller does not have one either.
>
> What they probably have is "Bobby Fischer's Chess Games" which is a
> different book.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Fischers-Chess-Games-Fischer/dp/038508627X/
>
> Sam Sloan
>
Telegraph Books in Berkeley, CA has a copy.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1043568602&searchurl=bsi%3D30%26tn%3DBobby%2BFischer%2527s%2BGames%2Bof%2BChess%26x%3D12%26y%3D12
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 10:31:57
From: white, fat and fugly
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 16, 11:21=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jul 15, 8:08=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Beat by a Computer on eBay
>
> > Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
> > edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
> > July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
>
> > The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
> > Schuster.
>
> > The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEBIDX:.=
..
>
> > Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
> > here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
> > hitting the refresh key.
>
> > Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
> > outbid me. I rushed to place a higher bid but my computer is not that
> > fast and just before I got my bid in the time was up.
>
> > I am aware that there are computer programs to enable a bidder on eBay
> > to place a bid just seconds before the time is up. That is obviously
> > what this person did because it would be almost impossible for a human
> > to time a bid so perfectly as to come in just ten seconds before the
> > end. A normal human could never do that.
>
> > The bidder is named bookforlovehttp://myworld.ebay.com/bookforlove/
>
> > He is probably sitting there laughing his ass off that his computer
> > program beat me by ten seconds. He probably does not even care about
> > the book. He probably plans just to flip it to somebody. Meanwhile I
> > really need that book.
>
> > But I am going to get that guy. I am going to find out who bookforlove
> > is. He thinks this is a big joke. I am not joking. He is no better
> > than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> =A0 Hmmm. Our Sam recently told us he's living in poverty in a dreadful
> neighborhood. Presumably, one or more of his children are too. Yet he
> is willing to spend $150 on a chess book? Strange priorities.
> =A0 Or is this yet another FSS post?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
listen, it's a usenet group.. you already know that answer.
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 10:25:49
From: white, fat and fugly
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 15, 8:08=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> Beat by a Computer on eBay
>
> Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
> edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
> July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
>
> The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
> Schuster.
>
> The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEBIDX:..=
.
>
> Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
> here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
> hitting the refresh key.
>
> Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
> outbid me. I rushed to place a higher bid but my computer is not that
> fast and just before I got my bid in the time was up.
>
> I am aware that there are computer programs to enable a bidder on eBay
> to place a bid just seconds before the time is up. That is obviously
> what this person did because it would be almost impossible for a human
> to time a bid so perfectly as to come in just ten seconds before the
> end. A normal human could never do that.
>
> The bidder is named bookforlovehttp://myworld.ebay.com/bookforlove/
>
> He is probably sitting there laughing his ass off that his computer
> program beat me by ten seconds. He probably does not even care about
> the book. He probably plans just to flip it to somebody. Meanwhile I
> really need that book.
>
> But I am going to get that guy. I am going to find out who bookforlove
> is. He thinks this is a big joke. I am not joking. He is no better
> than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
>
> Sam Sloan
what? that book? we got two editions here in our library and a old
book seller has one in their store.
huh?
why $150?
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 08:21:51
From:
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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On Jul 15, 8:08=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> Beat by a Computer on eBay
>
> Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
> edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
> July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
>
> The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
> Schuster.
>
> The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEBIDX:..=
.
>
> Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
> here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
> hitting the refresh key.
>
> Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
> outbid me. I rushed to place a higher bid but my computer is not that
> fast and just before I got my bid in the time was up.
>
> I am aware that there are computer programs to enable a bidder on eBay
> to place a bid just seconds before the time is up. That is obviously
> what this person did because it would be almost impossible for a human
> to time a bid so perfectly as to come in just ten seconds before the
> end. A normal human could never do that.
>
> The bidder is named bookforlovehttp://myworld.ebay.com/bookforlove/
>
> He is probably sitting there laughing his ass off that his computer
> program beat me by ten seconds. He probably does not even care about
> the book. He probably plans just to flip it to somebody. Meanwhile I
> really need that book.
>
> But I am going to get that guy. I am going to find out who bookforlove
> is. He thinks this is a big joke. I am not joking. He is no better
> than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
>
> Sam Sloan
Hmmm. Our Sam recently told us he's living in poverty in a dreadful
neighborhood. Presumably, one or more of his children are too. Yet he
is willing to spend $150 on a chess book? Strange priorities.
Or is this yet another FSS post?
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 10:01:05
From: clams_casino
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan wrote:
>
>Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
>edition of a book for a year.
>
>Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
>outbid me. He is no better
>than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
>
>Sam Sloan
>
>
Is that like using a book to cheat at chess, but in the 21st century?
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Date: 16 Jul 2008 15:22:03
From: Don Lancaster
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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clams_casino wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
>
>>
>> Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
>> edition of a book for a year.
>> Finally, with just ten seconds remaining in the auction, someone
>> outbid me. He is no better
>> than a chess player who uses a computer to cheat at chess.
>>
>> Sam Sloan
>>
>>
>
> Is that like using a book to cheat at chess, but in the 21st century?
Almost as bad as practicing to cheat at chess.
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: [email protected]
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Date: 15 Jul 2008 20:58:10
From: clams_casino
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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samsloan wrote:
>Beat by a Computer on eBay
>
>Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
>edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
>July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
>
>The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
>Schuster.
>
>The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=320272393065
>
>Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
>here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
>hitting the refresh key.
>
>
>
What you really need is a book on how to bid on eBay.
The winner likely used a snipe program, but you have no idea as to when
he placed that bid or what his highest bid was. It could have been
placed before yours and was likely much higher than the final bid.
Hint - bid the maximum the item is worth to you (maximum bid = maximum
price you are willing to pay less S/H), late in the auction (last few
minutes is best or if a small fee is of little importance, subscribe to
a sniping service). You either win the item at or less than your
maximum bid or you can sit there laughing your ass off that the other
bidder paid way too much.
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Date: 15 Jul 2008 18:50:40
From: Don Lancaster
Subject: Re: Beat by a Computer on eBay
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clams_casino wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
>
>> Beat by a Computer on eBay
>>
>> Boy am I really pissed off. I have been trying to buy a particular
>> edition of a book for a year. Finally I saw one listed on eBay. So, on
>> July 8, 2008 I placed a most generous bid of $150.03 for the book.
>>
>> The book is Bobby Fischer's Games of Chess, published by Simon &
>> Schuster.
>>
>> The auction was expiring just now, at Jul-15-08 15:57:30 PDT.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=320272393065
>>
>>
>> Because I knew that there might be a last minute bid I was sitting
>> here counting down the seconds until the auction was over. I kept
>> hitting the refresh key.
>>
>>
>>
>
> What you really need is a book on how to bid on eBay.
>
> The winner likely used a snipe program, but you have no idea as to when
> he placed that bid or what his highest bid was. It could have been
> placed before yours and was likely much higher than the final bid.
>
> Hint - bid the maximum the item is worth to you (maximum bid = maximum
> price you are willing to pay less S/H), late in the auction (last few
> minutes is best or if a small fee is of little importance, subscribe to
> a sniping service). You either win the item at or less than your
> maximum bid or you can sit there laughing your ass off that the other
> bidder paid way too much.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaybuy.pdf
For most bidders most of the time on most items, it does not matter in
the least whether you bid three minutes or three seconds from close.
Especially if you value your time or there are several items closing.
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: [email protected]
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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