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Date: 12 Sep 2008 07:07:54
From: Sanny
Subject: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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After 2 month, today GetClub Chess was made Twice Stronger by removing
a Buggy code with better code.
Now, GetClub will play much stronger moves !!!.
Last 2 months there was no improvement, But today somehow GetClub was
made stronger.
Now very tough games at GetClub.
Beginner: 2200+
Easy: 2300+
Normal: 2400+
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
A few advices of Help Bot were used to improve the game. So now you
will see a real tough game at GetClub.
Now, you can play against Human Opponents also. Just choose your
Opponent and start playing with him. But you need to wait for some
opponent to arrive.
I am hoping to see more wins by GetClub against the strong players.
Bye
Sanny.
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 16 Sep 2008 01:00:16
From: Sanny
Subject: Get Club will win now.
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> =A0 It could be argued that since theGetClub
> program shows no signs of actual thinking
> during play, this is something of an unfair
> advantage for the humans-- possibly even
> explaining why Sanny's program so rarely
> wins.
Today there was a lot of improvement. And I feel now even Beginner
Level will be very difficult to win.
Play a game with Beginner Level and see how strongly it plays now.
Today GetClub beat twice.
First time Beginner Win the game with Black pieces.
Then I tried Baby Level 2 sec / move vs Jester 3 sec / move.
And GetClub was ahead by "Knight & Bishop" but it ended as Draw as
GetClb was unable to win ending with "Knight & Bishop"
So I think now it would be a lot tougher to win the Beginner Level.
Do not play with Higher levels as lower Levels are much stronger now.
As now GetClub Tactics has been improved twice.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 15 Sep 2008 10:29:02
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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On Sep 14, 10:28 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Sep 14, 10:24 pm, zzz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > Yes, looks like resetting is the only option.
> > user: Par Excellence
>
> Game removed. You can start a new game.
>
> I suggest you restart your computer
> if you have been using it for long
> hours.
Actually, buying a new computer after
each game is a preferable solution to
these minor GC hiccups.
Wlod
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Date: 15 Sep 2008 09:55:45
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: GetClub Smell Now Stonger than Ever!!
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On Sep 12, 9:11 am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
> HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
> HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
> HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
>
> I laughed 10 min after reading your mail.
Sanny, your program is slow too.
Wlod
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 13:54:55
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Stinkorama at Get Club
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On Sep 12, 1:45=A0pm, Taylor Kingston <[email protected] > wrote:
> So you were thinking
> > You thought for 5 min on this move
>
> =A0 God forbid I should think while playing chess!
It could be argued that since the GetClub
program shows no signs of actual thinking
during play, this is something of an unfair
advantage for the humans-- possibly even
explaining why Sanny's program so rarely
wins.
How about this scientific test: try playing
the Easy level using just your intuition, no
fair "thinking".
-- help bot
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 10:28:54
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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On Sep 14, 10:24=A0pm, zzz <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 14 sep, 19:15, Sanny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The game IS being played on Easy level, not Beginner.
> > > There is no point in continuing as the game is now in an incorrect
> > > state.
> > > GC has skipped its move and has put its opponent back in.- Hide quote=
d text -
>
> > Should I reset your game? So that you can start a new game.
>
> > Whats your username?
>
> > Bye
> > Sanny
>
> Yes, looks like resetting is the only option.
> user: Par Excellence
Game removed. You can start a new game.
I suggest you restart your computer if you have been using it for long
hours. As sometimes when lots of programs are working the Game slows
and hangs.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 10:24:15
From: zzz
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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On 14 sep, 19:15, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> > The game IS being played on Easy level, not Beginner.
> > There is no point in continuing as the game is now in an incorrect
> > state.
> > GC has skipped its move and has put its opponent back in.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Should I reset your game? So that you can start a new game.
>
> Whats your username?
>
> Bye
> Sanny
Yes, looks like resetting is the only option.
user: Par Excellence
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 10:15:21
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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> The game IS being played on Easy level, not Beginner.
> There is no point in continuing as the game is now in an incorrect
> state.
> GC has skipped its move and has put its opponent back in.- Hide quoted text -
Should I reset your game? So that you can start a new game.
Whats your username?
Bye
Sanny
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 09:31:56
From: zzz
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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On 14 sep, 18:07, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> > I've just re-opened this game and now the knight appears to back on
> > f3.
> > GetClub claims to have played R-h1, another impossible move: the rook
> > has been on h1 since the start of the game.
>
> Browsers do not do justice to applets and Applets gets too little
> resources So sometimes the Board pieces disappear for sometime. You
> can always restart your computer and continue the game if some error
> happens.
>
> When the game starts It always show "R-h1" as the corner point. Once
> the game is played it reset the last move.
>
> I think you are using Beginner Level. Try Easy Level and then it will
> play much stronger.
>
> Today Help Bot played against Easy Level and there was quite good
> game.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
The game IS being played on Easy level, not Beginner.
There is no point in continuing as the game is now in an incorrect
state.
GC has skipped its move and has put its opponent back in.
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 09:10:38
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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> I tried to test the "improved" GetClub against Par Excellence.
> First GC forgot its opening book after 1.e4 e5 (possibly cause I
> confused it by flipping the board).
> Then it played a series of what appeared to me as completely random
> moves, resulting in PE being a healthy exchange + pawn up.
> Then GC's knight on f3 EXPLODED!?! (seriously)
I think you are using Beginner Level. Try Easy Level and then it will
play much stronger.
Today Help Bot played against Easy Level and there was quite good
game.
> It claimed to have played the move --f3 and promptly removed its own
> knight from the board!
> After that I didn't see the point in continuing the game and I closed
> my browser.
Browsers do not do justice to applets and Applets gets too little
resources So sometimes the Board pieces disappear for sometime. You
can always restart your computer and continue the game if some error
happens.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 09:07:20
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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> I've just re-opened this game and now the knight appears to back on
> f3.
> GetClub claims to have played R-h1, another impossible move: the rook
> has been on h1 since the start of the game.
Browsers do not do justice to applets and Applets gets too little
resources So sometimes the Board pieces disappear for sometime. You
can always restart your computer and continue the game if some error
happens.
When the game starts It always show "R-h1" as the corner point. Once
the game is played it reset the last move.
I think you are using Beginner Level. Try Easy Level and then it will
play much stronger.
Today Help Bot played against Easy Level and there was quite good
game.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 07:52:14
From: zzz
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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On 14 sep, 16:46, zzz <[email protected] > wrote:
> I tried to test the "improved" GetClub against Par Excellence.
> First GC forgot its opening book after 1.e4 e5 (possibly cause I
> confused it by flipping the board).
> Then it played a series of what appeared to me as completely random
> moves, resulting in PE being a healthy exchange + pawn up.
> Then GC's knight on f3 EXPLODED!?! (seriously)
> It claimed to have played the move --f3 and promptly removed its own
> knight from the board!
> After that I didn't see the point in continuing the game and I closed
> my browser.
I've just re-opened this game and now the knight appears to back on
f3.
GetClub claims to have played R-h1, another impossible move: the rook
has been on h1 since the start of the game.
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 07:46:22
From: zzz
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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I tried to test the "improved" GetClub against Par Excellence.
First GC forgot its opening book after 1.e4 e5 (possibly cause I
confused it by flipping the board).
Then it played a series of what appeared to me as completely random
moves, resulting in PE being a healthy exchange + pawn up.
Then GC's knight on f3 EXPLODED!?! (seriously)
It claimed to have played the move --f3 and promptly removed its own
knight from the board!
After that I didn't see the point in continuing the game and I closed
my browser.
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Date: 13 Sep 2008 03:43:49
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Stinkorama at Get Club
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> > 9. Be2-g4{10} Qd8-a5{312}
>
> > You thought for 5 min on this move
>
> =A0 God forbid I should think while playing chess!
Nowm you have to think even longer as today again GetClub was
improved.
And now GetClub will play Twice stronger than earlier.
So it would be more difficult to win the Beginner & Easy Level.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 10:45:28
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Stinkorama at Get Club
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On Sep 12, 12:45=A0pm, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Your Game.
>
> You took 54 sec / move While GetClub took 15 sec / move.
No, it often took much longer than that. Your program has never
adhered to its own self-proclaimed time limits.
So you were
> thinking ~ 4 times longer on average.
Yes, I have discovered that thinking is a generally a good idea when
playing chess. Perhaps your program should try it.
> Till 9h move White was ahead with all pieces occuping the Center.
Nonsense, Sanny. White completely wasted the advantage of the first
move when it played 3.d3 and 5.Nd5 e6 6.Nf4. The latter was an
especially stupid maneuver, wasting two tempi to put the knight on an
inferior square. It also delayed the development of your QB because it
must stay behind to protect the b-pawn for the time being.
> The Bishop and Two knights were attacking your King.
Again, nonsense. The bishop and two knights were hopping around like
fleas on a hot griddle, accomplishing nothing except making themselves
vulnerable. My king was quite safe. There was no "attack."
> 9. Be2-g4{10} Qd8-a5{312}
>
> You thought for 5 min on this move
God forbid I should think while playing chess!
> and then after 6 moves you got an
> extra pawn.
Not to mention winning a piece.
> 15. Nf4-h5{8} Bg7xb2{22}
>
> Now, the White Bishop was stuck in the corner which you took on 21st
> move
Yes, your program has a great knack for getting its own pieces
trapped. This in this so-called "attack" your pieces basically tripped
over their own feet and fell on their swords.
> 21. Bh3xg4{12} f5xg4{18}
>
> Now you were a Bishop extra So you easily win the game.
>
> This was Beginner Level. Then think how good the Easy & Normal Level
> will play.
They don't play any better, they just take longer. And contrary to
your claim of improvement, beginner level actually played worse today
than a few days before.
And did you notice that it let me make two moves in a row, Black's
25th and 26th? You're getting buggier all the time, Sanny.
>
> 1. e2-e4{2} c7-c5{2}
> 2. Nb1-c3{30} Nb8-c6{8}
> 3. d2-d3{18} g7-g6{8}
> 4. Ng1-f3{22} Bf8-g7{4}
> 5. Nc3-d5{16} e7-e6{12}
> 6. Nd5-f4{10} Ng8-e7{26}
> 7. Bf1-e2{38} d7-d5{24}
> 8. Nf3-g5{22} Ke8-g8{48}
> 9. Be2-g4{10} Qd8-a5{312}
> 10. Qd1-d2{0} Qa5-d2{60}
> 11. Bc1-d2{14} h7-h6{98}
> 12. Ng5-f3{0} f7-f5{26}
> 13. e4-f5{26} e6-f5{26}
> 14. Bg4-h3{0} g6-g5{72}
> 15. Nf4-h5{8} Bg7-b2{22}
> 16. Ra1-b1{20} Bb2-h8{6}
> 17. Nh5-g3{38} Rf8-e8{60}
> 18. Ng3-e2{18} g5-g4{56}
> 19. Rh1-f1{64} Kg8-h7{46}
> 20. Rb1-b5{82} b7-b6{80}
> 21. Bh3-g4{12} f5-g4{18}
> 22. Nf3-g1{24} Bc8-a6{200}
> 23. Rb5-b1{14} Ne7-f5{166}
> 24. Ke1-d1{0} c5-c4{76}
> 25. Ne2-c1{0} Nc6-e5{26}
> 26. -e2-f4{0} c4-d3{98}
> 27. c2-c3{6} Ne5-c4{106}
> 28. Nc1-b3{0} Re8-e2{66}
> 29. Kd1-c1{8} Nc4-d2{32}
> 30. Nb3-d2{18} Bh8-c3{46}
> 31. Ng1-e2{6} d3-e2{4}
> 32. Rf1-e1{6} Ra8-c8{20}
> 33. Rb1-b2{6} Ba6-d3{52}
> 34. Rb2-c2{10} Bc3-b4{30}
> 35. Re1-e2{6} Rc8-c2{28}
> 36. Kc1-d1{6} Rc2-a2{36}
> 37. Re2-e1{0} Ra2-a1{18}
> 38. Nd2-b1{0}
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 10:06:46
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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> > Last 2 months there was no improvement
>
> What about all those posts you've made recently about how it's gotten
> stronger?
One month back after improvement was done the game degraded. as lots
of Bugs came in. It took 2 months to remove all those bugs. Now it is
playing arround Twice better than it was 2 months back.
So there was no real progress last 2 month. But today the game was
improved for the first time in these 2 months.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 09:45:24
From: Sanny
Subject: Your Game (Taylor Kingston)
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Your Game.
You took 54 sec / move While GetClub took 15 sec / move. So you were
thinking ~ 4 times longer on average.
Till 9h move White was ahead with all pieces occuping the Center.
The Bishop and Two knights were attacking your King.
9. Be2-g4{10} Qd8-a5{312}
You thought for 5 min on this move and then after 6 moves you got an
extra pawn.
15. Nf4-h5{8} Bg7xb2{22}
Now, the White Bishop was stuck in the corner which you took on 21st
move
21. Bh3xg4{12} f5xg4{18}
Now you were a Bishop extra So you easily win the game.
This was Beginner Level. Then think how good the Easy & Normal Level
will play.
Game Played between Stinky Garlnoot and beginner at GetClub.com
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Stinky Garlnoot: (Black)
beginner: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM26761&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(beginner) -- (Stinky Garlnoot)
1. e2-e4{2} c7-c5{2}
2. Nb1-c3{30} Nb8-c6{8}
3. d2-d3{18} g7-g6{8}
4. Ng1-f3{22} Bf8-g7{4}
5. Nc3-d5{16} e7-e6{12}
6. Nd5-f4{10} Ng8-e7{26}
7. Bf1-e2{38} d7-d5{24}
8. Nf3-g5{22} Ke8-g8{48}
9. Be2-g4{10} Qd8-a5{312}
10. Qd1-d2{0} Qa5-d2{60}
11. Bc1-d2{14} h7-h6{98}
12. Ng5-f3{0} f7-f5{26}
13. e4-f5{26} e6-f5{26}
14. Bg4-h3{0} g6-g5{72}
15. Nf4-h5{8} Bg7-b2{22}
16. Ra1-b1{20} Bb2-h8{6}
17. Nh5-g3{38} Rf8-e8{60}
18. Ng3-e2{18} g5-g4{56}
19. Rh1-f1{64} Kg8-h7{46}
20. Rb1-b5{82} b7-b6{80}
21. Bh3-g4{12} f5-g4{18}
22. Nf3-g1{24} Bc8-a6{200}
23. Rb5-b1{14} Ne7-f5{166}
24. Ke1-d1{0} c5-c4{76}
25. Ne2-c1{0} Nc6-e5{26}
26. -e2-f4{0} c4-d3{98}
27. c2-c3{6} Ne5-c4{106}
28. Nc1-b3{0} Re8-e2{66}
29. Kd1-c1{8} Nc4-d2{32}
30. Nb3-d2{18} Bh8-c3{46}
31. Ng1-e2{6} d3-e2{4}
32. Rf1-e1{6} Ra8-c8{20}
33. Rb1-b2{6} Ba6-d3{52}
34. Rb2-c2{10} Bc3-b4{30}
35. Re1-e2{6} Rc8-c2{28}
36. Kc1-d1{6} Rc2-a2{36}
37. Re2-e1{0} Ra2-a1{18}
38. Nd2-b1{0}
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Stinky Garlnoot: (Black)
beginner: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM26761&game=Chess
This game Taylor Kingston was thinking 4 times longer than Beginner
Level So he easily win the game.
I think Easy & Normal Level will give him good Challenge.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 09:11:02
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub Smell Now Stonger than Ever!!
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> =A0 After many improvement, GetFlub now smell stronger than ever. Now
> really big stink at GetFlub:
Ha, Ha, Ha
> =A0 Beginner: fresh cowpie
HaHa, HaHa
> =A0 Easy: rotting fish
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
> =A0 Normal: Sasquatch armpit
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
> =A0 Advanced: pit latrine
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
> =A0 Dive in at GetFlub!
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa, HaHa
I laughed 10 min after reading your mail.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 11:47:52
From: John Salerno
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:f908d3cd-0688-41a7-8ab8-30ed13bfbf47@s28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Last 2 months there was no improvement
What about all those posts you've made recently about how it's gotten
stronger?
> But today somehow GetClub was
> made stronger.
Wow, "somehow"?
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 08:34:29
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: GetClub Smell Now Stonger than Ever!!
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After many improvement, GetFlub now smell stronger than ever. Now
really big stink at GetFlub:
Beginner: fresh cowpie
Easy: rotting fish
Normal: Sasquatch armpit
Advanced: pit latrine
Dive in at GetFlub!
On Sep 12, 10:07=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> After 2 month, today GetClub Chess was made Twice Stronger by removing
> a Buggy code with better code.
>
> Now, GetClub will play much stronger moves !!!.
>
> Last 2 months there was no improvement, But today somehow GetClub was
> made stronger.
>
> Now very tough games at GetClub.
>
> Beginner: 2200+
> Easy: 2300+
> Normal: 2400+
>
> Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
> A few advices of Help Bot were used to improve the game. So now you
> will see a real tough game at GetClub.
>
> Now, you can play against Human Opponents also. Just choose your
> Opponent and start playing with him. But you need to wait for some
> opponent to arrive.
>
> I am hoping to see more wins by GetClub against the strong players.
>
> Bye
> Sanny.
>
> Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 12 Sep 2008 07:19:33
From: Alessandro J.
Subject: Re: After long time GetClub Chess improved twice.
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On 12 Set, 16:07, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Now very tough games at GetClub.
>
> Beginner: 2200+
> Easy: 2300+
> Normal: 2400+
Damn pigeons.
A classic example of taking a step forward in order to be able to take
two backwards ...
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