Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

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Date: 08 Aug 2008 10:18:23
From: JBradshaw
Subject: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

Just upgraded from Fritz 6 to Fritz 11.

I used to be able to view the dates of the games in my database, including
month, day, year. Now all I see is year. Not very helpful.

Anyone know how to add the full dates in the database view?

thanks

Date: 08 Aug 2008 11:52:54
From: John Sheatsley
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

"JBradshaw" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Just upgraded from Fritz 6 to Fritz 11.
>
> I used to be able to view the dates of the games in my database, including month, day, year. Now all I see is year. Not very
> helpful.
>
> Anyone know how to add the full dates in the database view?
>
> thanks
>

If it's done the same way as Fritz 10 (I haven't updated yet) then:

Open the database window. Select the 'Games' tab. Right click and select
'List Format

Date: 11 Aug 2008 11:55:17
From: JBradshaw
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

That did the trick, thanks!

"John Sheatsley" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "JBradshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just upgraded from Fritz 6 to Fritz 11.
>>
>> I used to be able to view the dates of the games in my database,
>> including month, day, year. Now all I see is year. Not very helpful.
>>
>> Anyone know how to add the full dates in the database view?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>
> If it's done the same way as Fritz 10 (I haven't updated yet) then:
>
> Open the database window. Select the 'Games' tab. Right click and select
> 'List Format

Date: 09 Aug 2008 13:08:45
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (07:29) schrieb:

> Can your Fritz eleven beat Fritz ten or your Fritz 6 ?

It can probably beat Fritz 11.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 09 Aug 2008 23:05:59
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (17:59) schrieb:

> Do you mean your Toga 2 can beat Fritz eleven ?

I mean, Fritz 11 can beat Fritz 11. Any real good engine can.

> I was wondering if his Fritz eleven can beat Fritz ten ...That would
> tell me Fritz eleven is stronger....

Sure it can, it's the wrong question.

> Id like to see your Toga 2 vs Fritz eleven

Sorry, it's not mine, and I don't have Fritz 11.

> I wish some one else would play computer vs computer on here like
> Sanny and I do because id like to watch a few battles beside ours all
> the time..

You can find plenty of engine matches on the net.

> HIRCS vs Fritz eleven or Toga 2 would be a great battle too ..

You can probably find that somewhere.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 10 Aug 2008 02:45:14
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (01:26) schrieb:

> I can find that stuff if i had a real computer , i have webtv which is
> very limited...+ just playing through a game is OK like i will for the
> two games that are posted here , id rather come here every day before
> and after work like i usually do and see two computers battling it out
> every day so i can just follow it that way ..

But Usenet is not you chess service. An Asus EeePC or something like
that will do for the web and is Internet access more expansive than your
WebTV?

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 09 Aug 2008 16:26:39
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

I can find that stuff if i had a real computer , i have webtv which is
very limited...+ just playing through a game is OK like i will for the
two games that are posted here , id rather come here every day before
and after work like i usually do and see two computers battling it out
every day so i can just follow it that way ..

Date: 09 Aug 2008 08:59:55
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

Do you mean your Toga 2 can beat Fritz eleven ?

I was wondering if his Fritz eleven can beat Fritz ten ...That would
tell me Fritz eleven is stronger....

Id like to see your Toga 2 vs Fritz eleven ....Lets say the time i
play at the chess mall , 30 min each side ....Or maybe like my Ivan ,
I45 Minutes for 45 moves....

I wish some one else would play computer vs computer on here like
Sanny and I do because id like to watch a few battles beside ours all
the time..

HIRCS vs Fritz eleven or Toga 2 would be a great battle too ..

Date: 09 Aug 2008 18:40:35
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

[email protected] (SAT W-7) writes:

> I wish some one else would play computer vs computer on here like
> Sanny and I do because id like to watch a few battles beside ours all
> the time..

Here are two games I played between crafty 22.1 and glaurung 2.1.
Crafty was running on a Core2 Quad 2.4GHz CPU and glaurung was running
on a Core2 Duo 2.6GHz CPU. Both games were unfortunately pretty boring
and ended in a draw.

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.08.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Glaurung 2.1"]
[Black "crafty"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "60/300"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Bb7 5. Nc3 d5 6. cxd5 Nxd5 7. e3 Be7 8.
Bb5+ c6 9. Bd3 O-O 10. e4 Nxc3 11. bxc3 c5 12. O-O Nd7 13. Bf4 Rc8 14. d5
c4 15. Bc2 exd5 16. exd5 Bf6 17. Rc1 Re8 18. d6 Rc5 19. Nd4 Be5 20. Bxe5
Rcxe5 21. Ba4 Rd5 22. Qf3 Rxd4 23. Qxb7 Rxd6 24. Qxa7 Ree6 25. Bxd7 Qxd7
26. Qxd7 Rxd7 27. Rfd1 Rxd1+ 28. Rxd1 Re8 29. f3 f5 30. Rd4 b5 31. Rd5 Ra8
32. Rxf5 Rxa3 33. Rxb5 Rxc3 34. f4 Rc2 35. Rb7 c3 36. Rc7 Kf8 37. Kf1 h6
38. f5 h5 39. h4 Ke8 40. Rxg7 Rb2 41. Rc7 c2 42. Ke1 Kd8 43. Rc3 Ke7 44.
Kd2 Kf6 45. Kc1 Rb4 46. g3 Kxf5 47. Kxc2 Kg4 48. Ra3 Kh3 49. Rd3 Rg4 50.
Kd2 Rxg3 51. Rd4 Rf3 52. Ra4 Kg3 53. Rb4 Rf1 54. Ke2 Rc1 55. Ke3 Rc3+ 56.
Kd4 Rc1 57. Kd5 Re1 58. Rd4 Re2 59. Ra4 Re1 60. Rb4 Re2 61. Rc4 Re1 62. Ra4
Re2 63. Kd6 Re1 64. Rb4 Re2 65. Rc4 Re1 66. Kd5 Re2 67. Kd4 Rd2+ 68. Ke3
Rd1 69. Ra4 Rd6 70. Ke2 Rd7 71. Rb4 Rd6 72. Ke3 Re6+ 73. Kd2 Re7 74. Rd4
Re6 75. Kd3 Re1 76. Rb4 Rd1+ 77. Ke3 Rd6 78. Ra4 Rd1 79. Rc4 Re1+ 80. Kd2
Re6 81. Kd3 Rd6+ 82. Ke2 Rd7 83. Re4 Rd6 84. Ke3 Rd1 85. Ke2 Rd6 86. Rb4
Rd7 87. Ke3 Re7+ 88. Kd2 Re6 89. Kd3 Re1 90. Ra4 Re6 91. Kd4 Kxh4 92. Kd5+
Kg5 93. Kxe6 h4 94. Ra1 Kg4 95. Rg1+ Kf3 96. Kf5 h3 97. Rh1 Kg3 98. Ra1 h2
99. Ra3+ Kg2 100. Ra2+ Kg3 101. Ra1 Kg2 102. Rb1 h1=Q 103. Rxh1
{Insufficient material} 1/2-1/2

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.08.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Crafty-22.1"]
[Black "Glaurung 2.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "60/300"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Bd3 d5 6. Nf3 c5 7. O-O Nc6 8.
a3 Bxc3 9. bxc3 Qc7 10. cxd5 exd5 11. Nh4 Qa5 12. Bb2 Re8 13. a4 Ne4 14.
dxc5 Qxc5 15. Qc2 Na5 16. Nf3 Bd7 17. Rfd1 Bg4 18. Rdb1 Bxf3 19. gxf3 Ng5
20. Kg2 Kh8 21. h4 Ne6 22. Ba3 Qc7 23. Rb5 Rad8 24. h5 a6 25. Rb4 h6 26.
Rg4 Nc4 27. f4 Nxa3 28. Rxa3 Nc5 29. Kg1 Ne4 30. Rg2 Re7 31. Qb2 Qa5 32.
Qb4 Qxb4 33. cxb4 d4 34. Rh2 Nf6 35. Rh3 dxe3 36. Rxe3 Rc7 37. Be2 Kg8 38.
f5 Kf8 39. Bf3 b6 40. a5 b5 41. Rac3 Rxc3 42. Rxc3 Rd4 43. Rc8+ Ke7 44. Ra8
Rxb4 45. Rxa6 Ra4 46. Ra7+ Kd6 47. a6 b4 48. Kg2 Nd7 49. Be2 Ra3 50. Rb7 b3
51. a7 b2 52. Rxb2 Rxa7 53. f4 Nc5 54. Kh3 Ra3+ 55. Kh4 Ke7 56. Rb4 Re3 57.
Bf1 Ne4 58. Bh3 Nd6 59. Rb1 Rc3 60. Re1+ Kf6 61. Re5 Rf3 62. Kg4 Rd3 63.
Bf1 Rd1 64. Bh3 Rg1+ 65. Kf3 Rc1 66. Kg4 Nc4 67. Rb5 Rc3 68. Kh4 Rf3 69.
Kg4 Ra3 70. Rc5 Ne3+ 71. Kh4 Ra6 72. Kg3 Nd1 73. Rb5 Nc3 74. Rb2 Nd5 75.
Rb5 Ra3+ 76. Kg4 Rd3 77. Ra5 Rd4 78. Ra6+ Ke7 79. Ra7+ Ke8 80. Ra8+ Kd7 81.
Ra7+ Kd8 82. Ra8+ Kc7 83. Ra7+ Kd6 84. Rxf7 Nf6+ 85. Kg3 Nxh5+ 86. Kh4 Nf6
87. Rxg7 Rxf4+ 88. Bg4 Rd4 89. Kh3 h5 90. Bxh5 Nxh5 91. Rb7 Nf6 92. Kg3 Ke5
93. Re7+ Kxf5 94. Kf3 Ra4 95. Ke2 Nd5 96. Re8 Ra3 97. Rh8 Ke4 98. Re8+ Kd4
99. Rh8 Nf4+ 100. Kd2 Ra2+ 101. Ke1 Nd3+ 102. Kd1 Nf2+ 103. Ke1 Ne4 104.
Rg8 Ke3 105. Rd8 Re2+ 106. Kd1 Nf2+ 107. Kc1 Nd3+ 108. Kb1 Rb2+ 109. Ka1
Rc2 110. Kb1 Rd2 111. Re8+ Kd4 112. Rh8 Rb2+ 113. Ka1 Rc2 114. Kb1 Re2 115.
Rg8 Rb2+ 116. Ka1 Rc2 117. Rd8+ Ke4 118. Kb1 Rb2+ 119. Ka1 Rd2 120. Kb1 Rg2
121. Re8+ Kf3 122. Rh8 Rb2+ 123. Ka1 Rd2 124. Kb1 Rg2 125. Rf8+ Ke3 126.
Rh8 Rb2+ 127. Ka1 Rf2 128. Kb1 Rg2 129. Re8+ Kd4 130. Rh8 Rf2 131. Rg8 Rh2
132. Rf8 Kd5 133. Rg8 Rb2+ 134. Ka1 Rf2 135. Kb1 Ne5 136. Kc1 Nc6 137. Kd1
Rh2 138. Rf8 Kd4 139. Rg8 Ne5 140. Rf8 Kd3 141. Rd8+ Ke4 142. Rg8 Ra2 143.
Rh8 Nd3
{Draw by fifty-move rule} 1/2-1/2

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 09 Aug 2008 13:31:51
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

Is the time control 60 moves for 300 minutes ?

What are their estamated ELO's ?

Thanks

O , glad you played them as black and white too..

Date: 09 Aug 2008 21:24:02
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

[email protected] (SAT W-7) writes:

> Is the time control 60 moves for 300 minutes ?

No, it's 60 moves in 300 seconds, ie 5 seconds / move on average.

> What are their estamated ELO's ?

According to this list:

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_120_ratinglist/ratinglist/rangliste.html

glaurung 2.1 on a dual 64 bit CPU has rating 2876, but I'm not sure
how well that rating scale matches the scale used in human player
tournaments.

I didn't find crafty 22.1 on a quad CPU in any rating list.

Here is another game that also ended in a draw. The time control here
was 40 moves in 40 minutes. Note however that crafty has been running
on a computer that is almost twice as fast as the computer glaurung
was running on. Maybe the games will be more interesting if I let
glaurung have the fastest computer instead.

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "quad.localdomain"]
[Date "2008.08.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Glaurung 2.1"]
[Black "Crafty-22.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "40/2400"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Bg5 Bb7
8. f3 h6 9. Bh4 d5 10. e3 Nbd7 11. cxd5 Nxd5 12. Bxd8 Nxc3 13. Bxc7 Nd5 14.
Bb5 Rfc8 15. Bf4 g5 16. Bxd7 Rc2 17. Rb1 gxf4 18. Ba4 Rxg2 19. e4 Ne7 20.
Ne2 Ng6 21. h4 Ba6 22. Bd1 Rd8 23. h5 Bxe2 24. Bxe2 Ne7 25. Rc1 f5 26. Kf1
Rg3 27. d5 exd5 28. Rh4 Kf7 29. Rxf4 Kf6 30. exf5 Rh3 31. Rc7 a5 32. Rb7
Rd6 33. Rb8 Rxh5 34. Bd3 Rh2 35. Rg4 Rd2 36. f4 Nxf5 37. Rf8+ Ke7 38. Rxf5
Rxd3 39. Rg7+ Ke6 40. Rh5 d4 41. b4 axb4 42. axb4 Rf3+ 43. Ke2 Rxf4 44.
Rg6+ Kd7 45. Rhxh6 Rxg6 46. Rxg6 Kc7 47. Kd3 Rh4 48. Rg5 Kc6 49. Kc4 b5+
50. Kd3 Rf4 51. Rc5+ Kb6 52. Rd5 Kc6 53. Rc5+ Kb6 54. Rd5 Kc6 55. Rc5+
{Draw by repetition} 1/2-1/2

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 09 Aug 2008 13:29:41
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

I03 and I43 move draws , wow that seem like exciting games to me ...Hard
fought they are even programs to me because to move that many times and
end up in a draw tells me they did not blunder to much ..

I will play them out later thank you ..

I have never heard of Glaurung..

Date: 09 Aug 2008 21:11:43
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

[email protected] (SAT W-7) writes:

> I03 and I43 move draws , wow that seem like exciting games to me ...Hard
> fought they are even programs to me because to move that many times and
> end up in a draw tells me they did not blunder to much ..

The games were dead draws about 50 moves before they ended though, but
because computers don't easily get bored, they typically just keep
playing until the 50-move rule sets in. Human players would most
likely have agreed to a draw much earlier.

> I have never heard of Glaurung..

Glaurung is a very strong open source chess program. The home page is
here:

http://www.glaurungchess.com/

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 09 Aug 2008 16:28:52
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

Yes my Ivan never wants to quit , you have to kill him ..checkmate him
...

Thanks for that link

Date: 09 Aug 2008 11:08:56
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

waiting for IVANS move

Bye
Sanny

Date: 08 Aug 2008 22:29:41
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Viewing Dates on Games in Fritz 11

Can your Fritz eleven beat Fritz ten or your Fritz 6 ?