The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 12:49:49
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:

> Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.

The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty
son-of-a-gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of
thousands of dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall
has been executive director.

Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
his job.

What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
managers do in the real world of business.

I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.

Sam Sloan

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:04:44
From: Rob
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 7:49=A0am, [email protected] (Sam Sloan) wrote:
> On Aug 5, 5:32 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Bill Hall is a very nice guy from what I have seen. I think he is in a
> > position to effect little change and can't make a decision without
> > permission from the board first. WHy don't they just sell the USCF to
> > Bill Goichberg? At leat then it could be run as a business and there
> > would be no pretence of having to be fair or honest about anything.
>
> The problem is exactly that Bill Hall is a "nice guy". The USCF does
> not need a "nice guy". The USCF needs right now a mean, nasty
> son-of-a-gun who will return profits rather than the hundreds of
> thousands of dollars that the USCF has lost every year that Bill Hall
> has been executive director.
>
> Even Bill Goichberg is not happy with Bill Hall, but Bill Goichberg
> keeps Bill Hall anyway because Bill Hall is his yes-man. Bill Hall
> does the bare minimum of what Bill Goichberg wants him to do to keep
> his job.
>
> What the USCF needs right now is a mean-son-of-gun who will fire an
> employee in a second who is not doing a good job. That is what real
> managers do in the real world of business.
>
> I have such a person in mind but will not say his name until we
> finally somehow get rid of Bill Hall.
>
> Sam Sloan

Wow Sam. I am flattered!

Date: 06 Aug 2008 09:04:44
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

You rang?

Date: 10 Sep 2008 21:50:15
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Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

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Date: 08 Aug 2008 16:46:35
From: Rob
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 8, 4:53=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
>
> > > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>
> > Proving a claim that YOU made?
>
> > How amusing.
>
> > --
> > --
> > Ray Gordon
>
> OK, cretin, let's try this: If you can get the Copyright Office to
> accept a chess game for copyright registration, I'll personally
> apologize to you. Since that will happen when pigs fly (sorry, didn't
> mean to insult your relatives), I'm not worried.
>
> Can't we set up a separate news group (alt.babbling.loons) so that
> people like Parker and MI-5 can drool at each other while not annoying
> the sane?

LOL

Date: 08 Aug 2008 14:53:12
From:
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>
> Proving a claim that YOU made?
>
> How amusing.
>
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon

OK, cretin, let's try this: If you can get the Copyright Office to
accept a chess game for copyright registration, I'll personally
apologize to you. Since that will happen when pigs fly (sorry, didn't
mean to insult your relatives), I'm not worried.

Can't we set up a separate news group (alt.babbling.loons) so that
people like Parker and MI-5 can drool at each other while not annoying
the sane?

Date: 11 Sep 2008 23:30:46
From: Krus T. Olfard
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

[email protected] wrote in news:0c351324-ad16-4e8b-aaf1-
[email protected]:

>
>
> Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
>> > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>>
>> Proving a claim that YOU made?
>>
>> How amusing.
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Ray Gordon
>
>
> OK, cretin, let's try this: If you can get the Copyright Office to
> accept a chess game for copyright registration, I'll personally
> apologize to you. Since that will happen when pigs fly (sorry, didn't
> mean to insult your relatives), I'm not worried.
>
> Can't we set up a separate news group (alt.babbling.loons) so that
> people like Parker and MI-5 can drool at each other while not annoying
> the sane?
>

gordon roy parker actually has a newsgroup solely dedicated to his
seduction rantings. It has no visiters and no posts, not even gordy roy.
Even gordon roy parker will not visit someplace dedicated to him.
To paraphrase Groucho, gordon roy parker would not visit a place that
would welcome someone like him.

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Date: 07 Aug 2008 06:46:57
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> > Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on
>
> Proving a claim that YOU made?
>
> How amusing.

Kinda what everybody thought about Gordo in his latest thread, "USCF
is paper-blitzing me."

Hypocrite.

Date: 07 Aug 2008 02:58:24
From:
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> > Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
> > the courts for nearly a century.
>
> Got cite?
>
> No the SCORE of a game. Saying that one player beat another isn't what I'm
> talking about.
>
> In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon

Several, but I'm not going to waste them on a moron like you. (You
might start by looking up Alexander Rueb, a copyright lawyer and the
first president of FIDE.) The courts (and the U.S. Copyright Office)
have consistently taken the position that the moves of a game are a
fact/event. Facts can't be copyrighted. This is not the same thing as
a film of a football game, a creative work which can be copyrighted.
Anybody can watch a football game and report the results, but only the
owner can reproduce a tape or film. This is kindergarten stuff. Of
course, complete pointlessness ha never stopped you from filing
lawsuits. By all means waste more of your time.

Date: 07 Aug 2008 09:32:24
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

> Several <cits>, but I'm not going to waste them on

Proving a claim that YOU made?

How amusing.

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 23:26:33
From: Vance
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 8:00=A0pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> > Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
> > the courts for nearly a century.
>
> Got cite?
>
> No the SCORE of a game. =A0Saying that one player beat another isn't what=
I'm
> talking about.
>
> In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>

Explain how "In chess, the 'game score' is really a GAME FILM", just
for giggles.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 17:50:37
From:
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
> ADD: Protection of game copyrights and player right to publicity. Look at
> NFL Films.
>
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon

Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
the courts for nearly a century. That's not going to change unless
Congress changes the law.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 23:00:55
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

> Talk to your congresscritter. Copyright on games has been rejected by
> the courts for nearly a century.

Got cite?

No the SCORE of a game. Saying that one player beat another isn't what I'm
talking about.

In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.

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Date: 11 Sep 2008 23:27:00
From: Krus T. Olfard
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> In chess, the "game score" is really a GAME FILM.
>
>

No, it's not.

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Date: 07 Aug 2008 02:22:53
From: Non scrivetemi
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

In article <[email protected] >
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> You rang?

Further information on the newsloon's behavior is available at
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http://samvak.tripod.master.com/texis/master/search/?q=persecutory

For a more detailed view of pathological narcissism and the
Narcissistic
Personality Disorder (NPD) - click on these links:

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/npdglance.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/narcissismglance.html

Other Personality Disorders

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faqpd.html

Pathological Narcissism and Other Mental Health Disorders

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq82.html

NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and AsPD (Antisocial
Personality
Disorder, Psychopathy, or Sociopathy)

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders16.html

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 10:34:33
From: SBD
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 9:28 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:

>
> By the way, do you know the name of the hospital where Frank Niro was
> the administrator?
>
> That's funny. Nobody else does either.

I did Sam because I included him in an article I wrote on hospital
administration. The article about him was fairly easy to find.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:58:54
From: Rob
Subject: What Sloan doesn't know?

On Aug 6, 9:28=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Aug 6, 9:04 am, SBD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.
>
> > But based on Sam's criteria, one would have thought Niro would have
> > made the best ED - all that hospital experience, finding ways to make
> > profits, no problems in laying off employees, etc.....
>
> Niro did not fire anybody. To the contrary, he wrote, "There is not a
> person here that I do not want to keep".
>
> After Niro disappeared and $600,000 plus the USCF's laptop computer
> disappeared at the same time, Beatriz Marinello came in and fired 17
> people in one day, August 20, 2003.
>
> That is what we need to survive right now.
>
> By the way, do you know the name of the hospital where Frank Niro was
> the administrator?
>
> That's funny. Nobody else does either.
>
> Sam Sloan

Yes they do. Funny you don't know.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:28:59
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 9:04 am, SBD <[email protected] > wrote:
> The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.
>
> But based on Sam's criteria, one would have thought Niro would have
> made the best ED - all that hospital experience, finding ways to make
> profits, no problems in laying off employees, etc.....

Niro did not fire anybody. To the contrary, he wrote, "There is not a
person here that I do not want to keep".

After Niro disappeared and $600,000 plus the USCF's laptop computer
disappeared at the same time, Beatriz Marinello came in and fired 17
people in one day, August 20, 2003.

That is what we need to survive right now.

By the way, do you know the name of the hospital where Frank Niro was
the administrator?

That's funny. Nobody else does either.

Sam Sloan

Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:04:19
From: SBD
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.

But based on Sam's criteria, one would have thought Niro would have
made the best ED - all that hospital experience, finding ways to make
profits, no problems in laying off employees, etc.....

And then why was Edmondson such a qualified success (did much good,
much bad - at least in the long-term)? Did he do too much or did
people simply not follow his aggressive strategies later?

It would be a neat project for a graduate student in business. What is
needed to run the USCF and turn it around? I would say a charismatic
type who would indeed follow his own plan only.

But indeed could such a person last? Would the much-feared "Old Guard"
drive him out? (I personally find the whole "Old Guard" theory stupid
- you are simply talking about people who gained and have retained
power, much to the chagrin of those who would like to grab it away,
but aren't smart enough - listening, Phil?)

Date: 06 Aug 2008 13:06:31
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

ADD: Protection of game copyrights and player right to publicity. Look at
NFL Films.

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Date: 06 Aug 2008 13:06:08
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

> The question of who would be an effective leader is interesting.

1. Online magazine
2. Abolishing dues
3. Profitng per member on B&E
4. Partner with top players so they can sell products and profit from
increased distribution of free membership.
5. First-rate online server with rated online play

A better setup would be like ICC, where the server generates the revenue,
and everything else is provided (like ratings) peripherally.

ICC is almost like a chess federation unto itself. USCF missed that boat.

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Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
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Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
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Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
from what they teach.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
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Date: 06 Aug 2008 07:04:15
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 8:04=A0am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> You rang?

Actually, I did.

I'd like a Number 1, supersized, with a Dr. Pepper.

And step on it, fruitcake.

Date: 06 Aug 2008 06:26:04
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: The USCF does not need a "nice guy" as Executive Director

On Aug 6, 8:04 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<[email protected] > wrote:
> You rang?

Sorry, Ray, but you were not the person I had in mind as a future
executive director of the USCF.