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Date: 21 Jul 2008 18:05:25
From: samsloan
Subject: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Bill Brock sold me a book on eBay for one cent. Of course, he probably did not realize that he was selling it to me because the real identity of the buyer is not generally revealed until the auction is over. Also, I did not immediately realize that he was the seller when I bid on that and other chess books. The book Bill Brock boldly sold me was "The 64-Square Looking Glass: Great Games of Chess in World Literature" by the late Burt Hochberg. Item number 220253883953 So I bought Burt's book by Bill Brock. http://myworld.ebay.com/billbrock http://myworld.ebay.com/xxcomicsxx Naturally, I am sure that Bill Brock did not intend to sell Burt's book for only one penny. He probably intended one cent to be just a low starting bid. When only I bid for it, I became the buyer. Naturally, I feared that Bill Brock would not send Burt's book when he realized that I was the buyer. However, not only did it arrive but it came by UPS, an expedited delivery. Tracking number was 1Z GT7 302 03 9071 205 2 http://www.amazon.com/dp/081291929 Those of you who do not play chess will not realize what is so surprising about all this. It is that I have a lawsuit pending in federal court against Bill Brock: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/new-lawsuit-against-chess-federation/ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/058eee283f11a6b3 As a result of filing this lawsuit, I have been banned from posting to Wikipedia. Apparently Wikipedia has an unwritten rule that anybody on Wikipedia who sues anybody else who also happens to be on Wikipedia gets banned. Now, it seems that I have been kicked off of eBay too. I still have not heard anything back from eBay as to the reason. As a result of being suspended from eBay, I cannot give Bill Brock the positive feedback he is entitled to receive for completing this transaction. Sam Sloan
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Date: 09 Aug 2008 02:45:21
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Here is my latest letter to eBay: Your responses have failed to answer one simple question: What can I do to get the suspension listed? It does your company no good to permanently suspend people. You should know that Bill Brock is bragging on the eBay Google group that he got me suspended. Take a look at: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketing.online.ebay/browse_thread/thread/518019a9ba408017/d20819be8f212480?lnk=st&q=ebay#d20819be8f212480 http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketing.online.ebay/msg/d20819be8f212480?dmode=source This is the same person that I am suing in federal court for impersonating me. There are right now three federal cases going on about this. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html?_r=1&oref=slogin I imagine that you are at the bottom of the Totem Pole over there at eBay. I mean no disrespect but I think you should show this to your top management because you are making yourself a party to a bunch of existing lawsuits that you probably do not want to be involved in. The first thing that is going to happen after the currently pending motions before Judge Chin are resolved is that you are going to be hit with a Subpoena. The latest case was filed in San Francisco Superior Court last week and you are likely to be named as one of the "John Doe" Defendants. http://www.anusha.com/uscf-does.pdf I just want to make sure that you know exactly what you are doing. We know that you are in contact with Bill Brock about this, so that makes you a party to these cases. Sam Sloan On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:33 PM, eBay Customer Support <[email protected] > wrote: Dear Sam, Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your current account status. As you are aware, our records indicate that your account is currently suspended for the following violation: Previously Suspended User - samsloan As a courtesy to you, I have reviewed your suspension once more but concluded that your account will not be reinstated. If you choose to send future requests for reinstatement, unless we receive additional information pertaining to your suspension, we may not be able to respond. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Penelope C. eBay Customer Support Original Message Follows: ------------------------- From: Sam Sloan < [email protected] > To: eBay Customer Support < [email protected] > Subject: Re: FA91003 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety Department (KMM298734145V34938L0KM) We are going in circles. I cannot reinstate the samsloan account because I do not have access to that account. If I could, I would. Why waste time? If you will give me access to that account I will pay whatever is due especially since you told me that it is only $76.00 Why do you refuse to give me access to that account when you apparently are claiming that that is my account? Why is this so difficult to understand? Sam Sloan On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:03 AM, eBay Customer Support <[email protected] >wrote: > Dear Sam, > > Thank you for writing to eBay regarding the suspension of your account. > > I've reviewed your previous emails, as well as our responses. As clearly > explained in those responses, your xxcomicsxx account will be considered > for reinstatement once the suspension of the samsloan account due to > Non-payment of Fees is resolved. Once the Non-payment suspension of the > samsloan account is resolved, you can then appeal the suspension of the > xxcomicsxx account by responding to this email. > > You mentioned that you have been in contact with Billing Chat regarding > the Non-payment suspension. Once the matter is resolved and the > Non-payment suspension removed from the samsloan account, please inform > us and we will review xxcomicsxx for reinstatement as well. > > However, as explained previously, until the Non-payment suspension of > the samsloan account is resolved, no appeals regarding the xxcomicsxx > account will be accepted for any reason. Please understand that this > decision is final. > > Thank you for your time. > > Sincerely, > > Dewey > eBay Customer Support > _____________________________________________ > > 8/6/08 > > > > Original Message Follows: > ------------------------- > > Please explain how to go about reinstating that account. Kindly > understand > that I contacted your representatives on the help desk and offered to > pay > what ever debt is owed on that account just to resolve this matter and > to go > back into business. > > I was told that the account dates back to 2000 and the amount owed is > $76.00. > > That is a trivial amount, about what I was doing on the average day when > you > abruptly suspended. Yet, you keep stonewalling me when I ask you what > can be > done to resolve this matter. > > Please find a way to end this impasse. > > Sam Sloan > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:36 PM, eBay Customer Support > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Dear Sam, > > > > Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the suspension of your > accounts. > > > > > > I understand that you feel we have been unfair in upholding this > > suspension, and we take your complaint very seriously. However, we've > > reviewed the information you've provided, as well as our records > > regarding both accounts and confirmed that we cannot reinstate this > > account unless and until the original suspension is resolved. Please > > understand that this decision is final. > > > > I'm sorry I could not be of more help to you in this matter. Thank you > > for your time. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dewey > > eBay Customer Support > > _____________________________________________ > > > > 8/4/08 > > > > Original Message Follows: > > ------------------------- > > > > I do not know why you keep saying the same thing. I do not have access > > to > > any information about that account. I know of no way to get it either. > > > > Have you read yesterday's newspaper: Take a look at this: > > > > http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/072808/loc_310582593.shtml > > > > There are massive lawsuits going on right now in Texas, California and > > New > > York about my identity being stolen and me being impersonated. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:47 PM, eBay Customer Support > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Dear Sam, > > > > > > Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your current account status. > > > > > > If you can't recall or access the email address you used when you > > > registered your samsloan account, please respond to this message and > > > include the following information as it would appear on that > account: > > > > > > Full name: > > > User ID: samsloan > > > Address: > > > City: > > > State: > > > ZIP Code: > > > Country: > > > Phone number: > > > > > > Once we receive your response, we will be able to assist you further > > > with your appeal. > > > > > > Thank you for your time. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Penelope C. > > > > > > eBay Customer Support > > > > > > > > > Original Message Follows: > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > From: Sam Sloan < [email protected]> > > > To: eBay Customer Support < [email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: FA91003 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety > > > Department (KMM298105198V37245L0KM) > > > > > > How many times do I have to say the same thing? > > > > > > I cannot appeal the suspension of that account because I do not have > > > access > > > to that account. > > > > > > If you will give me the user name and password to that account I > will > > > see > > > what I can do. You cannot reasonably object to this since you claim > > that > > > it > > > is my account. > > > > > > I have had my xxcomicsxx account since 2002. I am aware that a > person > > > named > > > Bill Brock who has been charged with impersonating me brags that he > > got > > > my > > > ebay account suspended. > > > > > > We have been running on circles on this situation for two weeks. You > > > have to > > > provide some way to break the impasse. > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:00 PM, eBay Customer Support > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Sam, > > > > > > > > Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the suspension of your > > > account. > > > > > > > > As our previous response explained, this account was suspended > > because > > > > it is linked to a previously suspended account: > > > > > > > > samsloan > > > > > > > > As also explained in that response, this account cannot be > > reinstated > > > > unless and until the original suspension is resolved. > > > > > > > > To appeal the original suspension, please review the instructions > in > > > our > > > > previous response. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Winifred > > > > eBay Customer Support > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > 7/30/08 > > > > > > > > Original Message Follows: > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > From: Sam Sloan <[email protected]> > > > > To: eBay Customer Support <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: FA91003 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety > > > > (KMM297449240V99894L0KM) > > > > > > > > I do not have access to the account that you cite. I cannot find > out > > > > anything about it. If I knew what was wrong with that account I > > could > > > > try to > > > > resolve this issue but I know of no way for me to do that. > > > > > > > > You also need to know that William Brock from whom I won an ebay > > > auction > > > > just before you suspended me is now bragging on the Internet that > he > > > got > > > > me > > > > suspended from eBay. > > > > > > > > You are getting involved in a problem much bigger than you can > > > imagine. > > > > On > > > > October 2, 2007 I filed a lawsuit in Federal court against Bill > > Brock > > > > for > > > > doing things exactly like this. There have been ten articles > about > > > this > > > > case published in the New York Times, see > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html > > > > "Chess Group Officials Accused of Using Internet to Hurt Rivals" > > > > > > > > I think you would be best advised to reinstate my account. I doubt > > > that > > > > you > > > > really want to get involved in the middle of a lawsuit that is > > already > > > > pending in federal court. Otherwise, I wish to appeal, as you > leave > > me > > > > no > > > > choice. > > > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:57 AM, eBay Customer Support > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sam, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the suspension on your > > > > account. > > > > > > > > > > Your account was suspended from eBay due to the violation of our > > > > > Previously Suspended User Policy. > > > > > > > > > > Our records indicate that you either allowed a suspended user to > > > > access > > > > > our site through your account or you are the owner of the > > following > > > > > previously suspended account: > > > > > > > > > > samsloan > > > > > Original Suspension Reason: NonPayment > > > > > > > > > > The outstanding balance on the above mentioned account must be > > paid > > > > > before we can consider this account for reinstatement. > > > > > > > > > > In order to rectify this matter as quickly as possible, please > > > follow > > > > > these steps and make a one time payment: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Click on "Site Map" located at the top of the eBay Home page. > > > > > 2. Locate the "My Selling Account" heading. > > > > > 3. Click on "Make a Single Payment." > > > > > > > > > > If you are unable to access the email address currently > registered > > > to > > > > > the account in question, please resolve all Billing concerns by > > > > > contacting our Billing Department Live Help at: > > > > > > > > > > http://pages.ebay.com/help/account/livehelp-billing.html > > > > > > > > > > If you want to appeal the original suspension, you will need to > > > > contact > > > > > us from the email address currently registered to that account. > > > > However, > > > > > if you are not able to email us from the registered email > address, > > > you > > > > > can log in to the suspended account and email us through eBay's > > Web > > > > > Form. > > > > > > > > > > To access eBay's Web Form, go to: > > > > > > > > > > http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_inline/index.html > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Zack > > > > > > > > > > eBay Customer Support > > > > > > > > > > Original Message Follows: > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Form Message: %42233% 090702 > > > > > D_ID071820082038D_ID/W_ID150012338W_ID/S_ID000S_ID > > > > > Member entered email address: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: IV%A00266 Suspended Account [#US &MC055 ?00 ] > > > > > User Feedback: 122 > > > > > User State: ?00 > > > > > Browser info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; > > > > > rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16 > > > > > Home > Help Topics > Account Information and Billing > > > > Suspended > > > > > Account > Suspended Account > > > > > Message: I have just been informed that my account has been > > > suspended. > > > > > What is the reason? I have a perfect record.
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 17:45:06
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... _ On Jul 23, 3:38 pm, I wrote: 7 That is false. _ On Jul 23, 8:19 pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 Here is an example of one of the 19 Louis Blair postings. 7 It can still be found at 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester/Personal_Archive_2#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 Sam Sloan announcement 7 7 "I did not 'attempt' to post 100 chess biographies on 7 Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. 7 All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until 7 [ Rook wave ], [ Phr ] and Louis Blair were not looking 7 and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday 7 and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that 7 they will vandalize it again." - Sam Sloan 7 ([email protected], NNTP-Posting-Host: 7 68.199.110.255, 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700) 7 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en 7 7 "My Biography of Dimitrije Bjelica" - Sam Sloan 7 ([email protected], NNTP-Posting-Host: 7 68.199.110.255, Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:09:34 GMT) 7 http://groups.google.com/group/samsloan/msg/eefc91bb2aeda9d0?hl=en 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrije_Bjelica 7 - Louis Blair (July 19, 2006) _ On Jul 28, 1:14 am, I wrote: 7 What exactly is his objection to my posting? _ On Jul 28, 3:11 am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.187.25.167) wrote: 7 The objection to your postings is that you posted a bogus 7 "Sam Sloan Announcement" to the User Talk pages of 19 7 Wikipedia Administrators, when I had made no such 7 announcement. 7 ... _ On Jul 28, 11:13 am, I wrote: 7 Is he denying writing this? 7 7 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en _ _ On Jul 28, 11:25 am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 No. I do not deny writing this. However, that is not 7 an "Announcement". That is just a normal posting to 7 rec.games.chess.politics in response to ... _ _ My understanding of the word, announcement, is that it refers to "a public notification or declaration". http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/announcement _ Is a claim being made that http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en was not publicly declaring something? _ Does anyone imagine that my use of the word, announcement, made any difference to people at Wikipedia? _ Is there anything in the CONTENT of my post, other than the word, announcement, that is claimed to be inappropriate? _ _ On Jul 28, 11:25 am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... just a normal posting to rec.games.chess.politics 7 in response to your repeated vandalism of biographies 7 of chess personalities that I had posted to Wikipedia. _ _ Can some specific examples (of my supposed vandalism of chess personality biographies) be provided? _ _ On Jul 28, 11:25 am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 Now, do you deny posting the so-called "Sam Sloan 7 Announcement" to the User Talk pages of the 7 aforementioned 19 Wikipedia Administrators? _ _ I only saw 10 Wikipedia-names mentioned in http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketing.online.ebay/msg/126f0c846639b9c5?hl=en (JzG, Howcheng, Jdforrester, Olorin28, Billbrock, Phr, Rook_wave, Sasquatch, Sjakkalle, and Dmcdevit). _ In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketing.online.ebay/msg/82df7638802a5aa3?hl=en I asked, "Why does he believe that there were nine others?" _ So far, it seems that question is not to be answered. _ _ On Jul 28, 11:25 am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 You have been dancing around and evading that question 7 for the past two years. 7 7 Why do you refuse to own up to your acts? _ _ I have been and am quite willing to acknowledge that the specific quote in http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketing.online.ebay/msg/d8cd3fb9341f519d?hl=en is mine. Note the words, "my posting", in http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketing.online.ebay/msg/82df7638802a5aa3?hl=en _ I see no reason why I should "own up" to false statements such as the claim that I "wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about ... Sam Sloan, and pointed to" his "biographies of" Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg. _ _ _ In case the link http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en does not work for anyone, here is a copy of the post to which it connects: _ Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com! m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "samsloan" <[email protected] > Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,misc.legal,alt.chess Subject: Re: 16 Fake Sam Sloan messages posted while I was at the World Open Date: 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <[email protected] > References: <[email protected] > <[email protected] > <[email protected] > <[email protected] > <[email protected] > <[email protected] > <[email protected] > <[email protected] > NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1152620597 6696 127.0.0.1 (11 Jul 2006 12:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:23:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <[email protected] > User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv: 1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: [email protected] Injection-Info: m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com; posting- host=68.199.110.255; posting-account=2jt8PAsAAABkihm-TH9reeEIPrfGXdh2 Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod) wrote: > Since you have admitted to an attempt at posting > a HUNDRED bigraphies in wikiedia, it is only > right and logical that counter-actions were "constant", > and that "several" of your posts were deleted. > I wish, ALL of your attempts failed. I did not "attempt" to post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until Ralf Callenberg, Paul Rubin and Louis Blair were not looking and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that they will vandalize it again. Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 14:20:58
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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OK. Now we have the answer. It was Bill Brock's complaint that got me suspended from eBay.com For those Ebayers who are not familiar with Bill Brock, starting in 2004 he has posted thousands of times that I am a child molester, which is obviously not true because if it was true I would be in jail now. I have never been investigated, charged, arrested, tried, found guilty or anything else pertaining to child molestation or any thing similar. On October 2, 2007 I finally filed suit in federal court against Bill Brock for falsely calling me a child molester thousands of times. It was Bill Brock who got me blocked from Wikipedia and It is now Bill Brock who got me suspended from eBay. Naturally, I will add this to the damages clause of my federal suit against Bill Brock, but I still have to make a living in the mean time which includes selling my books on eBay. Bill Brock is obviously a very sick may who admits that he has sexual fantasies about child molestation. Sam Sloan On Jul 28, 3:34 pm, billbrock <[email protected] > wrote: > I must say that eBay is responsive! > > **** > > from eBay Customer Support <[email protected]> > reply-to eBay Customer Support <[email protected]> > to [email protected] > date Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM > subject IV91010 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety > Department (KMM297079945V26855L0KM) > mailed-by ebay.com > signed-by ebay.com > > hide details Jul 24 (4 days ago) > > Reply > > Dear William, > > Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your report of a previously > suspended user. > > We're concerned about violations on eBay and have investigated your > report thoroughly. Please be assured that we've consulted eBay policy > and taken the appropriate actions. > > Our actions might include: > > - Issuing a warning > - Restricting the member's account > - Terminating the membership > > At this time, our records indicate the member you reported is no > longer > a registered eBay user. > > For the protection of all eBay users, we can't provide specific > information regarding the results of our investigations. We hope this > also assures you that your personal account history will always remain > private. > > Thank you for using eBay for your online trading needs. > > Sincerely, > > Petrov > eBay Customer Support > > Original Message Follows: > ------------------------- > > Form Message: %42222% 031399 > D_ID071820081423D_ID/W_ID149998071W_ID/S_ID000S_ID > Subject: IV%P00111 Previously Suspended Users [#US 100763T ?01 ] > User Feedback: 74 > User State: ?01 > Browser info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; > rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1 > > Home > Help Topics > Rules and Policies > Rules for Everyone > > Previously Suspended Users > Previously Suspended Users > Suspicious Accounts: xxcomicsxx 122 US !42233! 090702 ?00 > Other Associated Accounts: > samsloan 425 > Associated item numbers: > 220253883953 $US US !42222! 031399 > > Message: Not really a complaint, but I wanted to alert you to an > extremely > unusual situation and possible misuse of eBay. > > Sam Sloan, user xxcomicsxx is the same person as former user samsloan. > I do not know whether Mr. Sloan's previous account was terminated for > cause or not. We even had a previous eBay transaction: see auction > 3066834043. > > Mr. Sloan is a convicted felon; his websites take an inordinate > interest > in adult sexual relations with children. See my sitehttp://direkickfeud.blogspot.com/ > > Mr. Sloan is also a serial litigant. He is currently suing me > (groundlessly, in my opinion) for $10,000,000 in the US District Court > for the Southern District of NY (Case # 1:07-cv-08537-DC; I am one of > fourteen defendants). [snip #1] > > Back to eBay. He won the auction for $0.01, God bless him, and I'm > sending him the item via UPS tomorrow. Hopefully that's the end of it. > [snip #2]
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 11:25:39
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 28, 2:13 pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jul 28, 3:11=A0am, <[email protected]>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.187.25.167) wrote: > > 7 On Jul 28, 4:14 am, [email protected] wrote: > 7 > 7 > What exactly is his objection to my posting? > 7 > 7 The objection to your postings is that you posted a bogus > 7 "Sam Sloan Announcement" to the User Talk pages of 19 > 7 Wikipedia Administrators, when I had made no such > 7 announcement. > 7 ... > _ > _ > Is he denying writing this? > _http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f... No. I do not deny writing this. However, that is not an "Announcement". That is just a normal posting to rec.games.chess.politics in response to your repeated vandalism of biographies of chess personalities that I had posted to Wikipedia. Now, do you deny posting the so-called "Sam Sloan Announcement" to the User Talk pages of the aforementioned 19 Wikipedia Administrators? You have been dancing around and evading that question for the past two years. Why do you refuse to own up to your acts? Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 11:13:54
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 28, 3:11=A0am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.187.25.167) wrote: 7 On Jul 28, 4:14 am, [email protected] wrote: 7 7 > What exactly is his objection to my posting? 7 7 The objection to your postings is that you posted a bogus 7 "Sam Sloan Announcement" to the User Talk pages of 19 7 Wikipedia Administrators, when I had made no such 7 announcement. 7 ... _ _ Is he denying writing this? _ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 11:09:18
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 28, 3:11=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: 7 On Jul 28, 4:14 am, [email protected] wrote: 7 7 > What exactly is his objection to my posting? 7 7 The objection to your postings is that you posted a bogus 7 "Sam Sloan Announcement" to the User Talk pages of 19 7 Wikipedia Administrators, when I had made no such 7 announcement. 7 ... _ _ Is he denying writing this? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl= =3Den
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 10:24:00
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 28, 10:44 am, billbrock <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 26, 1:07 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Come on Sam? Why must you always tear people down. I resigned due to > > poor health... I never disappeared. My resignation letter was in the > > hands of the board members at Los Angeles and is published in my blog. > > My whereabouts have been know continuously ever since by USCF board > > members and staff. I never missed an issue of Chess Life in the past > > five years because they were all mailed to my address by USCF staff. I > > have talked to Judy and Tracy in the office on numerous occasions and > > with more than half of the USCF Board members, in person or by e-mail, > > as well as with each of the USCF Executive Directors who served > > between me and Bill Hall. > > > I didn't respond to your law suit because it was nonsense. Besides > > that, it was never properly served. You will see a response in my > > upcoming book, however. > > > By the way, the Harold Dondis book was edited by me. As Editor, the > > printer gave me a few extra courtesy copies from the overrun free of > > charge. Rather than have them stay on a shelf and gather dust I > > decided to sell them on eBay and send 100% of the proceeds to the U.S. > > Chess Trust c/o Barbara DeMaro. > > > You knew that already but, of course, neglected to mention it. You > > also knew that the eBay account is my wife's (check your return > > address label) and not mine. I am spending more or less full time on > > my book these days. > > > Best wishes to all, > > Frank Niro > > [email protected]://www.twchesssafari.blogspot.com > > Did you send the book via UPS? If so, what was the tracking number? > > Sloan's penny also went to a charitable cause: the Illinois Chess > Association's Warren Junior Program. My year-to-date auctions (all of > which started at a penny--it works more often than not) have raised > $291 for the program and cleared shelf space for new books. No. Frank Niro sent the book by regular US Mail. I saved the envelope so I have his return address, but it would be unethical for me to give it to you (even though I am suing both you and Frank Niro in federal court (strange bedfellows)). Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 03:11:45
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 28, 4:14 am, [email protected] wrote: > What exactly is his objection to my posting? The objection to your postings is that you posted a bogus "Sam Sloan Announcement" to the User Talk pages of 19 Wikipedia Administrators, when I had made no such announcement. Here is one example of the 19 postings by you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng/Archive6#Sam_Sloan_announcement Each of these 19 administrators that you selected had a history of deleting or modifying my postings. For example, the one above, User:Howcheng, whose name is Howard Cheng, had deleted my biography of Tom Dorsch, USCF Treasurer. There had been no "Sam Sloan Announcement". I had merely posted to rec.games.chess.politics that I would post no more biographies of chess personalities until such time as Louis Blair was not active, in view of your long history of attacking me and of vandalizing my biographies. Among the 19 Wikipedia administrators to whose talk pages you posted this bogus "Sam Sloan Announcement", 18 did nothing, but the remaining one, User:JzG, whose real name is Guy Chapman, in the space of a half hour, deleted or modified my biographies of 50 chess personalities, thus erasing months of work. This was exactly the result that you intended would happen when you posted the bogus "Sam Sloan Announcement". Among those 50 were the biographies of Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg. These were the candidates nominated by the USCF for election to the positions of FIDE Vice-President, Secretary and Treasurer on the Reform slate of Bessel Kok. User:JzG proceeded to "salt the earth" of the biographies of Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg. He also tried to salt the earth of the biography of Bessel Kok as well, but that was reversed by other Wikipedia administrators because Bessel Kok is very well known. After great effort over a period of the next two years, I have been able to get the earth "unsalted" with respect to Ali Nihat Yazici, who is President of the Turkish Chess Federation and organizer of the recent World Youth Championships where the USCF sent a large delegation. His reinstated biography is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Nihat_Yazici However, the other three, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg, still have the earth salted. Meanwhile International Master Geoffrey Borg has emerged as an even more important chess personality and FIDE Vice-President. Now, because of the malicious acts of Louis Blair in vandalizing my Wikipedia biographies, Bill Goichberg appointed Louis Blair to the "Forum Oversight Committee" which had the power to delete my postings to the USCF Issues Forum. Goichberg did this at the time I was an elected member of the USCF Executive Board and running for re- election. Goichberg mailed 17,000 postcards to USCF members attacking me and he also appointed Louis Blair, giving Blair the power to delete my Forum postings, as a reward for the act of Louis Blair in posting these 19 fake "Sam Sloan Announcement" postings which resulted in Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg having the earth salted. This is part of my lawsuit against Goichberg and Truong as announced in the New York Times. I did not name Louis Blair as a defendant although I considered it. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html Does that answer your question? Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 Jul 2008 00:02:59
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:11:45 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >Among those 50 were the biographies of Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar >Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg. These were the >candidates nominated by the USCF for election to the positions of FIDE >Vice-President, Secretary and Treasurer on the Reform slate of Bessel >Kok. User:JzG proceeded to "salt the earth" of the biographies of Ali >Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and >Geoffrey Borg. He also tried to salt the earth of the biography of >Bessel Kok as well, but that was reversed by other Wikipedia >administrators because Bessel Kok is very well known. > I have finally figured this out. Sam Sloan is an Al Qaeda operative (real name: Sami Sabu al-Oan) and he is using Usenet to send out coded messages to sleeper agents in the US. These are not real names. No one is actually named "Bessel Kok" or "Ali Nihat Yazici". These are references to passages in the book _Zen And The Art of the Queen's Pawn Opening_ that tell the sleeper agents where and when to plant explosive devices. "Julio Cesar Ingolotti", when run through a modified Captain Midnight decoder ring, means "Read Chapter 3, third paragraph, transpose every third vowel and substitute "K" for "J", "P" for "C", and "I" for Tuesday. That gives the instruction to "Put a bomb in the Super K-Mart in Parma, Ohio. The bomb is rigged to go off when the Blue Light Special is activated." There is no other explanation possible. You are urged to forward all future posts by "Sam Sloan" to the Department of Homeland Security. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 28 Jul 2008 01:14:44
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Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 1:02=3DA0pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... _ On Jul 23, 3:38 pm, I wrote: 7 That is false. _ _ On Jul 23, 7:41 pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 Here are 10 of the 19 letters Louis Blair wrote to 7 Wikipedia administrators on July 19, 2006: 7 7 These were entitled as "Sam Sloan announcement" 7 by Louis Blair: _ _ Why does he believe that there were nine others? _ _ On Jul 23, 7:41 pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Olorin28#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Billbrock#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phr#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rook_wave 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sasquatch#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjakkalle#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dmcdevit#Sam_Sloan_announcement 7 7 Only one of the above administrators acted in his 7 request. That was User LzG who deleted or modified 7 about 50 of my chess biographies:. 7 ... _ _ None of the above links are to letters by me that pointed to biographies of Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg. None of the above links are to letters by me that requested deletion or modification of any biographies. _ _ On Jul 23, 8:19=A0pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 Here is an example of one of the 19 Louis Blair postings. 7 It can still be found at 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester/Personal_Archive_2#Sam= _Sloan_announcement 7 7 Sam Sloan announcement 7 7 "I did not 'attempt' to post 100 chess biographies on 7 Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. 7 All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until 7 [ Rook wave ], [ Phr ] and Louis Blair were not looking 7 and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday 7 and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that 7 they will vandalize it again." - Sam Sloan 7 ([email protected], NNTP-Posting-Host: 7 68.199.110.255, 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700) 7 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?= hl=3Den 7 7 "My Biography of Dimitrije Bjelica" - Sam Sloan 7 ([email protected], NNTP-Posting-Host: 7 68.199.110.255, Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:09:34 GMT) 7 http://groups.google.com/group/samsloan/msg/eefc91bb2aeda9d0?hl=3Den 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrije_Bjelica 7 - Louis Blair (July 19, 2006) _ _ What exactly is his objection to my posting?
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Date: 26 Jul 2008 11:07:33
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Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Come on Sam? Why must you always tear people down. I resigned due to poor health... I never disappeared. My resignation letter was in the hands of the board members at Los Angeles and is published in my blog. My whereabouts have been know continuously ever since by USCF board members and staff. I never missed an issue of Chess Life in the past five years because they were all mailed to my address by USCF staff. I have talked to Judy and Tracy in the office on numerous occasions and with more than half of the USCF Board members, in person or by e-mail, as well as with each of the USCF Executive Directors who served between me and Bill Hall. I didn't respond to your law suit because it was nonsense. Besides that, it was never properly served. You will see a response in my upcoming book, however. By the way, the Harold Dondis book was edited by me. As Editor, the printer gave me a few extra courtesy copies from the overrun free of charge. Rather than have them stay on a shelf and gather dust I decided to sell them on eBay and send 100% of the proceeds to the U.S. Chess Trust c/o Barbara DeMaro. You knew that already but, of course, neglected to mention it. You also knew that the eBay account is my wife's (check your return address label) and not mine. I am spending more or less full time on my book these days. Best wishes to all, Frank Niro [email protected] http://www.twchesssafari.blogspot.com On Jul 22, 8:33=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 22, 8:53 pm, Roy Carin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > On 07/22/2008 01:28 PM, samsloan wrote: > > > > I received the book FrankNirosold me in the mail today. > > > > Thank you FrankNiro. > > > > The book is "100 Chess Columns of Harold B. Dondis" (2002) > > > > A good book. I hope to read it some time. > > > > Unlike Bill Brock who only charged me one red cent for his book, I > > > paid $9.99 for the FrankNirobook. > > > > Now, if I can only get the other defendants to my lawsuit to sell me > > > their chess books cheap. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > No one cares about hearing about every book you buy on Ebay. Please kee= p > > your musings in a single newsgroup. Thanks. > > > Followups to alt.chess. > > Since you do not play chess you do not understand the irony of this > situation. > > FrankNirowas the Executive Director of the United States Chess > Federation drawing a six figure salary. On or about August 6, 2003 > FrankNiroabruptly disappeared. Coincidentally at the same time, > about $600,000 in USCF funds disappeared. We are not saying that he > stole the money, but he was seen playing in very high stakes poker > games in Foxwoods Casino where he could have lost a substantial part > of that $600,000. > > We do know that on August 20, 2003 he got Polgar and Truong to steal > the USCFs laptop computer off his former desk in the USCF offices in > New Windson NY. That laptop would have provided us with information > about what happened to the missing $600,000. > > Five years pass. No word from FrankNiro. I sue him in federal court > but cannot serve the summons because his whereabouts are unknown. > > Suddenly, I win a chess book in an eBay auction and who should turn > out to be the seller but FrankNiro!!!! Having gone through the > $600,000, he is now down to selling his old chess books to keep going. > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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Date: 24 Jul 2008 09:23:16
From: redleg
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 1:19=A0pm, "Lumpy" <[email protected] > wrote: > Louis Blair wrote: > > I have not written to any Wikipedia administrators, about > > Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, > > and Geoffrey Borg. > So Lumpy, whats better? Crappy Spam or postings from highly educated coneheads?
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 20:34:57
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Here is another one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phr/Archive-2006-08-01#Sam_Sloan_announcement Anybody who reads all these postings by Louis Blair will readily understand that he is overtly hostile to me. This is why it is especially objectionable that Bill Goichberg, knowing this, appointed Louis Blair to the Forum Oversight Committee. Sam Sloan
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 20:19:47
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 10:41 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 23, 5:38 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, <[email protected]> > > > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: > > > 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, > > 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat > > 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and > > 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... > > > _ > > That is false. > > Here are 10 of the 19 letters Louis Blair wrote to Wikipedia > administrators on July 19, 2006: > > These were entitled as "Sam Sloan announcement" by Louis Blair: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester#Sam_Sloan_announce... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Olorin28#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Billbrock#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phr#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rook_wave > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sasquatch#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjakkalle#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dmcdevit#Sam_Sloan_announcement > > Only one of the above administrators acted in his request. That was > User > LzG who deleted or modified about 50 of my chess biographies:. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG > > Louis Blair fails to recognize that by these attacks, he did not hurt > me. Rather he hurt the people whose biographies he had deleted. > > Sam Sloan By his 19 postings, Louis Blair managed to get about 50 biographies of chess players deleted from Wikipedia. This was clearly a malicious act of vandalism on his part. This also tells us a lot about Bill Goichberg, who rewarded Louis Blair for his acts of vandalism. Here is an example of one of the 19 Louis Blair postings. It can still be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester/Personal_Archive_2#Sam_Sloan_announcement Sam Sloan announcement "I did not 'attempt' to post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until [ Rook wave ], [ Phr ] and Louis Blair were not looking and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that they will vandalize it again." - Sam Sloan ([email protected], NNTP-Posting- Host: 68.199.110.255, 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en "My Biography of Dimitrije Bjelica" - Sam Sloan ([email protected], NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:09:34 GMT) http://groups.google.com/group/samsloan/msg/eefc91bb2aeda9d0?hl=en http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrije_Bjelica - Louis Blair (July 19, 2006)
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Date: 24 Jul 2008 04:10:23
From: Roy Carin
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On 07/23/2008 10:19 PM, samsloan wrote: > > By his 19 postings, Louis Blair managed to get about 50 biographies of > chess players deleted from Wikipedia. This was clearly a malicious act > of vandalism on his part. This also tells us a lot about Bill > Goichberg, who rewarded Louis Blair for his acts of vandalism. > [...] Why the h311 is this in alt.marketing.online.ebay? Why does everyone need to know about your disagreements with people? Why must you crosspost to so many groups? Why can't you set followups? It is rude to crosspost to many newsgroups without setting followups. Please stop being rude. And IN NO WAY is getting non-noteworthy articles deleted from Wikipedia vandalism of any sort. If you believe those people are so important, create a blog and put them on it. You have a need to express yourself. Create a blog for that too. (followups to alt.chess)
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 19:41:10
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 5:38 pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, <[email protected]> > > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: > > 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, > 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat > 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and > 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... > > _ > That is false. Here are 10 of the 19 letters Louis Blair wrote to Wikipedia administrators on July 19, 2006: These were entitled as "Sam Sloan announcement" by Louis Blair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Olorin28#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Billbrock#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phr#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rook_wave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sasquatch#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjakkalle#Sam_Sloan_announcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dmcdevit#Sam_Sloan_announcement Only one of the above administrators acted in his request. That was User LzG who deleted or modified about 50 of my chess biographies:. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG Louis Blair fails to recognize that by these attacks, he did not hurt me. Rather he hurt the people whose biographies he had deleted. Sam Sloan Sam Sloan
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Date: 24 Jul 2008 00:19:25
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:41:10 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >On Jul 23, 5:38 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, <[email protected]> >> >> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: >> >> 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, >> 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat >> 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and >> 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... Very few people notice that "Panupand" is an anagram for "Panda Pun" and that "Vijjuprabha" is an anagram for "Hajj Via Burp". Amazing, innit, that such things don't catch our immediate attention? Sam Sloan, though, can be anagrammed to "Anal Moss". Most readers here will have caught this, of course. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 22:30:44
From: Pogonip
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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tony cooper wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:41:10 -0700 (PDT), samsloan > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Jul 23, 5:38 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, <[email protected]> >>> >>> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: >>> >>> 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, >>> 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat >>> 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and >>> 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... > > Very few people notice that "Panupand" is an anagram for "Panda Pun" > and that "Vijjuprabha" is an anagram for "Hajj Via Burp". Amazing, > innit, that such things don't catch our immediate attention? > > Sam Sloan, though, can be anagrammed to "Anal Moss". Most readers > here will have caught this, of course. > I would have, Tony, but I couldn't tear myself away from The Aesthetics of Ambiguity in the Works of John Updike. -- Joanne stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Date: 24 Jul 2008 00:11:09
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:41:10 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >On Jul 23, 5:38 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, <[email protected]> >> >> (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: >> >> 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, >> 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat >> 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and >> 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... >> >> _ >> That is false. > >Here are 10 of the 19 letters Louis Blair wrote to Wikipedia >administrators on July 19, 2006: > >These were entitled as "Sam Sloan announcement" by Louis Blair: > This is getting more fascinating by the day. It tempts me to set aside my copy of _ Nitrogen and phosphorus losses in surface runoff and drainage water after application of slurry and mineral fertilizer to perennial grass ley_ by E. Turtola and E. Kemppainen, although it is indeed an exciting read, and follow Mr Sloan's saga. There are those in this newsgroup who might want Mr Sloan to discontinue his posts on this subject. I say "No! Wait till we get to the bits about the honey trap episode in the Hotel Ork in Reykjavik!" where the International Federation of Really Dull People and Chess Players sent in a doe-eyed seductress with huge tits to microfilm the contents of Mr Sloan's briefcase. We'll all have a jolly laugh when Mr Sloan reveals that the Minox film contained only images of a pimento cheese on whole wheat sandwich and some pages from "The Horsey Moves Two Squares Straight and One to the Side" by M. Pranger-Smyth for _Highlights_ magazine. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 24 Jul 2008 08:27:45
From: R. Totale
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:11:09 -0400, tony cooper <[email protected] > wrote: > some pages from "The Horsey >Moves Two Squares Straight and One to the Side" by M. Pranger-Smyth >for _Highlights_ magazine. No library in the world has this book. I checked.
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 15:38:47
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 1:02=A0pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, 7 Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of [Ali Nihat 7 Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and 7 Geoffrey Borg] ... _ That is false.
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 13:02:04
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 2:46 pm, Louis Blair <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 22, 7:37 pm, <[email protected]> > > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: > > 7 ... > 7 I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to > 7 those same 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to > 7 remove the ban on publishing biographies of those four > 7 chess personalities. > 7 > 7 Why cannot you do that simple thing? > 7 ... > > _ > I have not written to any Wikipedia administrators, about > Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, > and Geoffrey Borg. I see no reason for me to start doing so > now. Yes. But you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, Sam Sloan, and pointed to my biographies of those four chess personalities who had been nominated by the USCF as candidates for election to the top positions in FIDE, the World Chess Federation. Because of your acts, the earth was "salted" with respect to those four persons and no biography of them can ever be published by anybody on Wikipedia. You are just playing games with words to avoid taking responsibility for you acts. You are acting like a little kid who lies to his teacher about the reasons he did not do his homework. Sam Sloan
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 17:00:59
From: BrotherBart
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Sammy: >Yes. But you wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators about me, Sam Sloan, >and pointed to my biographies of those four chess personalities who >had been nominated by the USCF as candidates for election to the top >positions in FIDE, the World Chess Federation. I wrote to your mommy and your parole officer.
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 12:46:18
From: Louis Blair
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 7:37=A0pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to 7 those same 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to 7 remove the ban on publishing biographies of those four 7 chess personalities. 7 7 Why cannot you do that simple thing? 7 ... _ I have not written to any Wikipedia administrators, about Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg. I see no reason for me to start doing so now.
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 13:19:22
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Louis Blair wrote: > I have not written to any Wikipedia administrators, about > Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, > and Geoffrey Borg. I did. Lumpy In Your Ears for 40 Years www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 09:59:12
From: redleg
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 9:52=EF=BF=BDam, "Lumpy" <[email protected] > wrote: > redleg wrote: > > Lumpy, haven't you ever played with a woman's chest? > > Sure. Here's one of my girl groups in Oakland -http://www.digitalcartogra= phy.com/posse/lumpettes.jpg > > Same girls in Des Moines, different wardrobe -http://www.digitalcartograp= hy.com/posse/SpaceGirls. > > And here's the bass player's break out album -http://www.digitalcartograp= hy.com/boobs/IttyBittyTitties.jpg > Those breasts defy gravity
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 09:25:53
From: redleg
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 7:06=EF=BF=BDam, R. Totale <[email protected] > wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:26:03 -0700, "Lumpy" > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >samsloan wrote: > >> Since you do not play chess you > >> do not understand the irony of this > >> situation. > > >And so you continue to entertain us over in > >the eBay newsgroup. > > >We've managed to get you kicked off wiki > >and eBay. Why not list any other organizations > >you belong to and we'll take care of your > >membership there as well. > > Obviously MENSA is not on the list. Add Hell Money to your daily shopping list
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 09:25:21
From: redleg
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 23, 7:06=EF=BF=BDam, R. Totale <[email protected] > wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:26:03 -0700, "Lumpy" > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >samsloan wrote: > >> Since you do not play chess you > >> do not understand the irony of this > >> situation. > > >And so you continue to entertain us over in > >the eBay newsgroup. > > >We've managed to get you kicked off wiki > >and eBay. Why not list any other organizations > >you belong to and we'll take care of your > >membership there as well. > > Obviously MENSA is not on the list.
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 09:25:11
From: redleg
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 9:26=EF=BF=BDpm, "Lumpy" <[email protected] > wrote: > samsloan wrote: > > Since you do not play chess you > > do not understand the irony of this > > situation. > > And so you continue to entertain us over in > the eBay newsgroup. > > We've managed to get you kicked off wiki > and eBay. Why not list any other organizations > you belong to and we'll take care of your > membership there as well. > Lumpy, haven't you ever played with a woman's chest?
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 09:52:32
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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redleg wrote: > Lumpy, haven't you ever played with a woman's chest? Sure. Here's one of my girl groups in Oakland - http://www.digitalcartography.com/posse/lumpettes.jpg Same girls in Des Moines, different wardrobe - http://www.digitalcartography.com/posse/SpaceGirls. And here's the bass player's break out album - http://www.digitalcartography.com/boobs/IttyBittyTitties.jpg Lumpy In Your Ears for 40 Years www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 20:33:47
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 8:53 pm, Roy Carin <[email protected] > wrote: > On 07/22/2008 01:28 PM, samsloan wrote: > > > I received the book Frank Niro sold me in the mail today. > > > Thank you Frank Niro. > > > The book is "100 Chess Columns of Harold B. Dondis" (2002) > > > A good book. I hope to read it some time. > > > Unlike Bill Brock who only charged me one red cent for his book, I > > paid $9.99 for the Frank Niro book. > > > Now, if I can only get the other defendants to my lawsuit to sell me > > their chess books cheap. > > > Sam Sloan > > No one cares about hearing about every book you buy on Ebay. Please keep > your musings in a single newsgroup. Thanks. > > Followups to alt.chess. Since you do not play chess you do not understand the irony of this situation. Frank Niro was the Executive Director of the United States Chess Federation drawing a six figure salary. On or about August 6, 2003 Frank Niro abruptly disappeared. Coincidentally at the same time, about $600,000 in USCF funds disappeared. We are not saying that he stole the money, but he was seen playing in very high stakes poker games in Foxwoods Casino where he could have lost a substantial part of that $600,000. We do know that on August 20, 2003 he got Polgar and Truong to steal the USCFs laptop computer off his former desk in the USCF offices in New Windson NY. That laptop would have provided us with information about what happened to the missing $600,000. Five years pass. No word from Frank Niro. I sue him in federal court but cannot serve the summons because his whereabouts are unknown. Suddenly, I win a chess book in an eBay auction and who should turn out to be the seller but Frank Niro!!!! Having gone through the $600,000, he is now down to selling his old chess books to keep going. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 21:26:03
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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samsloan wrote: > Since you do not play chess you > do not understand the irony of this > situation. And so you continue to entertain us over in the eBay newsgroup. We've managed to get you kicked off wiki and eBay. Why not list any other organizations you belong to and we'll take care of your membership there as well. Lumpy In Your Ears for 40 Years www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 10:06:06
From: R. Totale
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:26:03 -0700, "Lumpy" <[email protected] > wrote: >samsloan wrote: >> Since you do not play chess you >> do not understand the irony of this >> situation. > >And so you continue to entertain us over in >the eBay newsgroup. > >We've managed to get you kicked off wiki >and eBay. Why not list any other organizations >you belong to and we'll take care of your >membership there as well. Obviously MENSA is not on the list.
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Date: 23 Jul 2008 11:53:07
From: =?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: AW: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Lumpy wrote: > samsloan wrote: >> Since you do not play chess you >> do not understand the irony of this >> situation. > > And so you continue to entertain us over in > the eBay newsgroup. > > We've managed to get you kicked off wiki > and eBay. Why not list any other organizations > you belong to and we'll take care of your > membership there as well. > > > Lumpy > > In Your Ears for 40 Years > www.LumpyMusic.com He sells copied books on Amazon. He doesn't own the copyright to the majority of these. Write to Amazon and get all your friends to do the same. He 'publishes' using the name ISHI Press. Also write to the IRS reminding them to check on (F)ishi press. And write to the NYC Department of Social Services to get them to check out Sloan for welfare fraud.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 20:18:57
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 9:47 pm, [email protected] wrote: > samsloan wrote: > > On Jul 22, 8:59 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected]> > > > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: > > > > 7 ... > > > 7 You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with > > > 7 a known history of deleting my postings and, pointing > > > 7 to my biographies of [Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar > > > 7 Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg], > > > 7 wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this time!" > > > 7 ... > > > > _ > > > That is false. > > > > _ > > > On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected]> > > > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: > > > > 7 ... > > > 7 I have asked you many times to write again to those > > > 7 Wikipedia administrators and get those biographies > > > 7 reinstated, but you have refused to do so. > > > > _ > > > I have not seen you produce a quote of anything > > > inappropriate that I have written to any Wikipedia > > > administrator about those biographies. > > > I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to those same > > 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to remove the ban on > > publishing biographies of those four chess personalities. > > > Why cannot you do that simple thing? > > > I have not seen you deny that you did write to those 19 in the first > > place. > > > The four that you got banned happened to be the US's official > > candidates for election to the top FIDE Positions in the 2006 > > elections in Italy. Because of your acts, it may have contributed to > > the election defeats of our four candidates. That is why it is > > especially objectionable that Goichberg rewarded you for your attacks > > on me by appointing you to the Forum Oversight Committee. > > > Sam Sloan > > Sam, you really never grasped how Wikipedia works. It operates by > consensus. Anybody can post something, and anybody else can edit or > delete it. If you want something included, you have to _persuade_ > people that you're right. Unlike Usenet, shouting, filibustering, and > holding your breath until you turn blue just won't work. You have to > persuade. And you're not very good at that, since you're idea of > reasoned argument is "I know more than you do so you should believe > me." You generally don't, but that's not the point. The fact that you > come across as a loud-mouthed jerk and an opinionated crank is. If > you're looking for enemies -- look in the mirror. Sorry, but it is you who fail to understand how Wikipedia works. Any one Wikipedia administrator can block or ban anybody or can salt the earth. Once blocked, banned or salted it is almost impossible to get reinstated, because any administrator knows that if he unblocks somebody he will get into a major lengthy fight with the person who placed the block. There is no concensus in Wikipedia. It is just a dog fight. Louis Blair wrote to 19 Wikipedia administrators. He eventually found one of them that did what he wanted. The Guy who actually placed the block is almost without doubt the most objectionable person in Wikipedia. He constantly complains that people are trying to kill him. There are those who wonder why somebody does not finish the job. He gets in such tremendous fights all the time that almost every month his user page gets filled up and has to be sent to archives. By the way, I do not know any of those people. I do not know Guy Chapman or the other 19 Wikipedia administrators that Louis Blair wrote and I do not know the four chess personalities that had the earth salted. I wrote and posted their biographies because they were our official candidates for FIDE election. The Guy that Louis Blair wrote to who carried our the task currently writes the following on his Wikipedia user talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG "I am under considerable personal stress at the moment; my father died and I have a lot of other stuff going on in RL including a new job as senior engineer for enterprise storage and virtual infrastructure in a Fortune 500 company. Great job, lots of shiny expensive toys, big responsibility. But Wikipedia is still one of my top hobbies, and I come here to do what I can. I respond much better to polite requests than to demands. People who taunt me with "I dare you to block me" may have cause to regret it," As you can see, he wants us to feel sorry for him. He writes, "I come here to do what I can." Those of us who are familiar with this Guy wish that he would just go away and never come back. Actually, he did leave a few months ago, saying that his life had been threatened. He also deleted his user page. But, alas, he came back. Question: If somebody really does finally kill this Guy, will that be the first murder in history caused by an Internet posting?
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 19:47:45
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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samsloan wrote: > On Jul 22, 8:59 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected]> > > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: > > > > 7 ... > > 7 You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with > > 7 a known history of deleting my postings and, pointing > > 7 to my biographies of [Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar > > 7 Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg], > > 7 wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this time!" > > 7 ... > > > > _ > > That is false. > > > > _ > > On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected]> > > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: > > > > 7 ... > > 7 I have asked you many times to write again to those > > 7 Wikipedia administrators and get those biographies > > 7 reinstated, but you have refused to do so. > > > > _ > > I have not seen you produce a quote of anything > > inappropriate that I have written to any Wikipedia > > administrator about those biographies. > > I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to those same > 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to remove the ban on > publishing biographies of those four chess personalities. > > Why cannot you do that simple thing? > > I have not seen you deny that you did write to those 19 in the first > place. > > The four that you got banned happened to be the US's official > candidates for election to the top FIDE Positions in the 2006 > elections in Italy. Because of your acts, it may have contributed to > the election defeats of our four candidates. That is why it is > especially objectionable that Goichberg rewarded you for your attacks > on me by appointing you to the Forum Oversight Committee. > > Sam Sloan Sam, you really never grasped how Wikipedia works. It operates by consensus. Anybody can post something, and anybody else can edit or delete it. If you want something included, you have to _persuade_ people that you're right. Unlike Usenet, shouting, filibustering, and holding your breath until you turn blue just won't work. You have to persuade. And you're not very good at that, since you're idea of reasoned argument is "I know more than you do so you should believe me." You generally don't, but that's not the point. The fact that you come across as a loud-mouthed jerk and an opinionated crank is. If you're looking for enemies -- look in the mirror.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 19:37:01
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 8:59 pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected]> > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: > > 7 ... > 7 You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with > 7 a known history of deleting my postings and, pointing > 7 to my biographies of [Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar > 7 Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg], > 7 wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this time!" > 7 ... > > _ > That is false. > > _ > On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected]> > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: > > 7 ... > 7 I have asked you many times to write again to those > 7 Wikipedia administrators and get those biographies > 7 reinstated, but you have refused to do so. > > _ > I have not seen you produce a quote of anything > inappropriate that I have written to any Wikipedia > administrator about those biographies. I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to those same 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to remove the ban on publishing biographies of those four chess personalities. Why cannot you do that simple thing? I have not seen you deny that you did write to those 19 in the first place. The four that you got banned happened to be the US's official candidates for election to the top FIDE Positions in the 2006 elections in Italy. Because of your acts, it may have contributed to the election defeats of our four candidates. That is why it is especially objectionable that Goichberg rewarded you for your attacks on me by appointing you to the Forum Oversight Committee. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 22:50:57
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to those same >19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to remove the ban on >publishing biographies of those four chess personalities. > >Why cannot you do that simple thing? Look, if he won't do it, pour salt on his tail. It works with magpies. When you catch him, and four-and-nineteen others, bake him in a pie. Then you set the pie before the king. Then you castle. Mate in six. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 26 Jul 2008 16:12:44
From: JC Dill
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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tony cooper wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT), samsloan > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to those same >> 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to remove the ban on >> publishing biographies of those four chess personalities. >> >> Why cannot you do that simple thing? > > Look, if he won't do it, pour salt on his tail. It works with > magpies. When you catch him, and four-and-nineteen others, bake him > in a pie. Then you set the pie before the king. Then you castle. > Mate in six. Snort! I am SO glad I didn't just tell my newsreader to "catch-up" with my unread AMOE postings. These guys are more entertaining than the coin guys, that's for damn sure. And Tony, you are in Fine Form. [jc bows with a flourish] jc
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 19:52:47
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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tony cooper wrote: > Look, if he won't do it, pour salt on his tail. It works with > magpies. When you catch him, and four-and-nineteen others, bake him > in a pie. Then you set the pie before the king. Then you castle. > Mate in six. Those guys that play with their little plastic horseys are preoccupied with salt. Wanna buy my biography? Lumpy You were the "OPERATION" game voice? Yes. Take out wrenched ankle. www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 19:48:47
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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samsloan wrote: > I have asked you to do one simple thing: Write a letter to those same > 19 Wikipedia administrators and ask them to remove the ban on > publishing biographies of those four chess personalities. > > Why cannot you do that simple thing? > > I have not seen you deny that you did write to those 19 in the first > place. I wrote to Wiki and asked them to ban those biographies. Lumpy In Your Ears for 40 Years www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 19:08:34
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 4:54=A0pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with 7 a known history of deleting my postings and, pointing 7 to my biographies of [Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar 7 Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg], 7 wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this time!" 7 ... _ That is false. _ On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 I have asked you many times to write again to those 7 Wikipedia administrators and get those biographies 7 reinstated, but you have refused to do so. _ I have not seen you produce a quote of anything inappropriate that I have written to any Wikipedia administrator about those biographies.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 18:59:55
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 4:54=A0pm, <[email protected] > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: 7 ... 7 You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with 7 a known history of deleting my postings and, pointing 7 to my biographies of [Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar 7 Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, and Geoffrey Borg], 7 wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this time!" 7 ... _ That is false. _ On Jul 22, 4:54 pm, <[email protected] > (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)) wrote: 7 ... 7 I have asked you many times to write again to those 7 Wikipedia administrators and get those biographies 7 reinstated, but you have refused to do so. _ I have not seen you produce a quote of anything inappropriate that I have written to any Wikipedia administrator about those biographies.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 17:01:53
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 6:38 pm, "Lumpy" <[email protected] > wrote: > [email protected] wrote: > > That is false. > > These freakin chess heads are stoopid'r > than da coin heads. > > Someone give me the address of these god-like wiki > administrators so that I can write to them and > tell them to ban the people I don't like. > > Lumpy > > In Your Ears for 40 Years > www.LumpyMusic.com The one who I believe actually salted the Earth with those biographies was Guy Chapman, who calls himself "Just Another Guy". Louis Blair could write him and ask him to unsalt the earth but I do not see him doing so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 6:26 pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jul 22, 3:37 am, <[email protected]>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: > > 7 ... > 7 The five people that Louis Blair got deleted from Wikipedia > 7 and salted the earth were: > 7 > 7 Ali Nihat Yazici > 7 Julio Cesar Ingolotti > 7 Panupand Vijjuprabha > 7 Geoffrey Borg > > _ > I have not written anything to Wikipedia people about > Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, > or Geoffrey Borg. > > _ > On Jul 22, 3:37 am, <[email protected]>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: > > 7 ... Louis Blair accomplished this by writing to 19 Wikipedia > 7 administrators asking that all my chess biographies be deleted. > > _ > That is false. You are playing with words. You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with a known history of deleting my postings and, pointing to my biographies of the above four persons, wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this time!" You knew that the result of your letters would be that the biographies of those four persons would be deleted. Ypu probably did not realize that because of your letters the Earth would be "salted", so that no biographies of those four persons can never be published again. I have asked you many times to write again to those Wikipedia administrators and get those biographies reinstated, but you have refused to do so. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 21:34:56
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >On Jul 22, 6:26 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> On Jul 22, 3:37 am, <[email protected]>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: >> >> 7 ... >> 7 The five people that Louis Blair got deleted from Wikipedia >> 7 and salted the earth were: >> 7 >> 7 Ali Nihat Yazici >> 7 Julio Cesar Ingolotti >> 7 Panupand Vijjuprabha >> 7 Geoffrey Borg >> >> _ >> I have not written anything to Wikipedia people about >> Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, >> or Geoffrey Borg. >> >> _ >> On Jul 22, 3:37 am, <[email protected]>(NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: >> >> 7 ... Louis Blair accomplished this by writing to 19 Wikipedia >> 7 administrators asking that all my chess biographies be deleted. >> >> _ >> That is false. > >You are playing with words. > >You wrote emails to 19 Wikipedia administrators with a known history >of deleting my postings and, pointing to my biographies of the above >four persons, wrote, in effect, "Look at what Sam Sloan did this >time!" > >You knew that the result of your letters would be that the biographies >of those four persons would be deleted. Ypu probably did not realize >that because of your letters the Earth would be "salted", so that no >biographies of those four persons can never be published again. > >I have asked you many times to write again to those Wikipedia >administrators and get those biographies reinstated, but you have >refused to do so. > Damn! I had no idea that chess players live such exciting lives. It's like reading a Dan Brown novel. Have there been any assassinations? Drive-by shootings at Washington Square Arch? Exploding rooks? What's the equivalent of Opus Dei in the chess world? You guys wear celice belts when playing? -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 18:51:32
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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tony cooper wrote: > What's the equivalent of Opus Dei in > the chess world? Do they have a parade on Opus Dei? Is there an Opus Queen? Do the ladies all show off their canned salt at the Opus Festival? Lumpy In Your Ears for 40 Years www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 16:26:16
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 3:37=A0am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 The five people that Louis Blair got deleted from Wikipedia 7 and salted the earth were: 7 7 Ali Nihat Yazici 7 Julio Cesar Ingolotti 7 Panupand Vijjuprabha 7 Geoffrey Borg _ I have not written anything to Wikipedia people about Ali Nihat Yazici, Julio Cesar Ingolotti, Panupand Vijjuprabha, or Geoffrey Borg. _ On Jul 22, 3:37 am, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... Louis Blair accomplished this by writing to 19 Wikipedia 7 administrators asking that all my chess biographies be deleted. _ That is false.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 16:38:36
From: Lumpy
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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[email protected] wrote: > That is false. These freakin chess heads are stoopid'r than da coin heads. Someone give me the address of these god-like wiki administrators so that I can write to them and tell them to ban the people I don't like. Lumpy In Your Ears for 40 Years www.LumpyMusic.com
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 16:55:43
From: Pogonip
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Lumpy wrote: > [email protected] wrote: > >> That is false. > > These freakin chess heads are stoopid'r > than da coin heads. > > Someone give me the address of these god-like wiki > administrators so that I can write to them and > tell them to ban the people I don't like. > > > Lumpy > > In Your Ears for 40 Years > www.LumpyMusic.com > > > Let's have a side order of wiki with our mojitos. -- Joanne stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 16:19:21
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 21, 7:22=A0pm, <[email protected] > (NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.44.134.237) wrote: 7 ... 7 ... Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most 7 important chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", 7 which means that their biographies can never be posted on 7 Wikipedia. One of these is Geoffrey Borg, an International 7 Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try creating a Wikipedia 7 biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. He can 7 blame Louis Blair for this. 7 ... _ I have not made any "salt the earth" requests. I have not written anything to Wikipedia about Geoffrey Borg or his biography.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 13:07:31
From: Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 12:18 pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jul 21, 9:15 pm, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry, the book by Burt Bill Brock sold me is listed on Amazon athttp://www.amazon.com/dp/0812919297/ > > > It is a big book and arrived here in perfect, near mint condition. > > > I could make a wisecrack here about how Bill Brock should have studied > > this book (which he obviously did not do or it would be ragged now) > > and then he might not have lost the grudge match to me. > > "The 64-square Looking Glass" is for the most part a literary book, > not an instructional book. Reading it would have had little effect on > Brock's (or anyone's) playing strength. But Sam was joking. (Thank you, Taylor, for the information all the same). Wlod
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 12:18:54
From:
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 21, 9:15=A0pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Sorry, the book by Burt Bill Brock sold me is listed on Amazon athttp://w= ww.amazon.com/dp/0812919297/ > > It is a big book and arrived here in perfect, near mint condition. > > I could make a wisecrack here about how Bill Brock should have studied > this book (which he obviously did not do or it would be ragged now) > and then he might not have lost the grudge match to me. "The 64-square Looking Glass" is for the most part a literary book, not an instructional book. Reading it would have had little effect on Brock's (or anyone's) playing strength.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 12:08:46
From: Andrew Usher
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 21, 8:22 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > On Wikipedia, the only significant complaints made against me came > from Louis Blair, an Internet gadfly who frequently attacks me here. > Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most important > chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", which means that > their biographies can never be posted on Wikipedia. One of these is > Geoffrey Borg, an International Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try > creating a Wikipedia biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. > He can blame Louis Blair for this. Sloan is completely right when it comes to Wikipedia. The people that run things there are a terrible bunch of jerks and this is certainly not unusual for them. Andrew Usher
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 11:28:11
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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I received the book Frank Niro sold me in the mail today. Thank you Frank Niro. The book is "100 Chess Columns of Harold B. Dondis" (2002) A good book. I hope to read it some time. Unlike Bill Brock who only charged me one red cent for his book, I paid $9.99 for the Frank Niro book. Now, if I can only get the other defendants to my lawsuit to sell me their chess books cheap. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 20:53:39
From: Roy Carin
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On 07/22/2008 01:28 PM, samsloan wrote: > I received the book Frank Niro sold me in the mail today. > > Thank you Frank Niro. > > The book is "100 Chess Columns of Harold B. Dondis" (2002) > > A good book. I hope to read it some time. > > Unlike Bill Brock who only charged me one red cent for his book, I > paid $9.99 for the Frank Niro book. > > Now, if I can only get the other defendants to my lawsuit to sell me > their chess books cheap. > > Sam Sloan No one cares about hearing about every book you buy on Ebay. Please keep your musings in a single newsgroup. Thanks. Followups to alt.chess.
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 07:33:26
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 7:31 am, J=FCrgen R. <[email protected] > wrote: > Of course - the famous Ali Nihat Yacizi - I forgot about him (actually, > I never heard of him before) - clearly he must be the most important > person in the chess world. > J=FCrgen R. J=FCrgen R. is right for a change. Ali Nihat Yacizi really is the most important person in the world of chess. I am surprised that you knew than since you seem to know very little else about chess. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 03:37:35
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 22, 2:14 am, J=FCrgen R. <[email protected] > wrote: > "samsloan" <[email protected]> schrieb im > > Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most important > > chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", which means that > > their biographies can never be posted on Wikipedia. One of these is > > Geoffrey Borg, an International Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try > > creating a Wikipedia biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. > > He can blame Louis Blair for this. > > LOL. Geoffrey Borg is one of the four most important chess personalities? > The other three are all named Sam Sloan, I suppose. The five people that Louis Blair got deleted from Wikipedia and salted the earth were: Ali Nihat Yazici Julio Cesar Ingolotti Panupand Vijjuprabha Geoffrey Borg Louis Blair accomplished this by writing to 19 Wikipedia administrators asking that all my chess biographies be deleted. The administrators not only deleted them, but "salted the earth". After great effort, I was able to get the biography of Ali Nihat Yazici restored. The rest still have the earth salted. Goichberg rewarded Louis Blair for doing this by appointing Louis Blair to the Forum Oversight Committee, over my strenuous objections. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 14:31:09
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:4d1cf8d1-6b55-4657-a6c6-971572ea7be1@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 22, 2:14 am, J�rgen R. <[email protected]> wrote: >> "samsloan" <[email protected]> schrieb im > >> > Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most important >> > chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", which means that >> > their biographies can never be posted on Wikipedia. One of these is >> > Geoffrey Borg, an International Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try >> > creating a Wikipedia biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. >> > He can blame Louis Blair for this. >> >> LOL. Geoffrey Borg is one of the four most important chess personalities? >> The other three are all named Sam Sloan, I suppose. > > The five people that Louis Blair got deleted from Wikipedia and salted > the earth were: > > Ali Nihat Yazici > Julio Cesar Ingolotti > Panupand Vijjuprabha > Geoffrey Borg Can count to 4 but not to 5? > > Louis Blair accomplished this by writing to 19 Wikipedia > administrators asking that all my chess biographies be deleted. > > The administrators not only deleted them, but "salted the earth". > > After great effort, I was able to get the biography of Ali Nihat > Yazici restored. Of course - the famous Ali Nihat Yacizi - I forgot about him (actually, I never heard of him before) - clearly he must be the most important person in the chess world. And who would know more about him than the person who knows everything about everybody who is anybody, namely our beloved Ali Ismail Sloan? > > The rest still have the earth salted. > > Goichberg rewarded Louis Blair for doing this by appointing Louis > Blair to the Forum Oversight Committee, over my strenuous objections. > > Sam Sloan
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 19:47:19
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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samsloan wrote: > On Wikipedia, the only significant complaints made against me came > from Louis Blair, an Internet gadfly who frequently attacks me here. > Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most important > chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", which means that > their biographies can never be posted on Wikipedia. One of these is > Geoffrey Borg, an International Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try > creating a Wikipedia biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. > He can blame Louis Blair for this. > > By the way, Louis Blair was rewarded for his attacks on me by being > made a member of the "Forum Oversight Committee" which regulates > postings to the USCF Issues Forum. Apparently, Mr. Sloan must think nobody reads the other postings here, such as the one in which Mr. Sloan was shown to be clueless as to the rantings of Bobby Fischer on 9/11/2001. Mr. Blair climbed into his time machine, went back and fetched actual quotes of BF from that day, which unsurprisingly, refuted some silly claims by Mr. Sloan. In sum, it seems more likely that Mr. Blair's "attacks" are not directed at Mr. Sloan himself so much as they are directed at his multitudinous errors. This reminds me of the complaints regarding pedant Edward Winter, who felt compelled to correct a few of the errors of Larry Evans-- a man who cannot stomach constructive criticism due to the combination of a bloated ego and a very thin skin. Pedantry can be very annoying, it is true; but unless you have an unlimited supply of bullets, killing the messengers -- those who point out the obvious -- is doomed to fail. And suppose for a moment that you succeeded in killing /all/ of these annoying messengers-- how would you dispose of all the bodies? It's a logistics nightmare... . -- help bot
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 19:22:45
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Jul 21, 9:00 pm, Roy Carin <[email protected] > wrote: > On 07/21/2008 08:05 PM, samsloan wrote: > > > > > Bill Brock sold me a book on eBay for one cent. Of course, he probably > > did not realize that he was selling it to me because the real identity > > of the buyer is not generally revealed until the auction is over. > > Also, I did not immediately realize that he was the seller when I bid > > on that and other chess books. > > > The book Bill Brock boldly sold me was "The 64-Square Looking Glass: > > Great Games of Chess in World Literature" by the late Burt Hochberg. > > Item number 220253883953 > > > So I bought Burt's book by Bill Brock. > >http://myworld.ebay.com/billbrock > >http://myworld.ebay.com/xxcomicsxx > > > Naturally, I am sure that Bill Brock did not intend to sell Burt's > > book for only one penny. He probably intended one cent to be just a > > low starting bid. When only I bid for it, I became the buyer. > > > Naturally, I feared that Bill Brock would not send Burt's book when he > > realized that I was the buyer. However, not only did it arrive but it > > came by UPS, an expedited delivery. Tracking number was > > 1Z GT7 302 03 9071 205 2 > > >http://www.amazon.com/dp/081291929 > > > Those of you who do not play chess will not realize what is so > > surprising about all this. It is that I have a lawsuit pending in > > federal court against Bill Brock: > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html > >http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/new-lawsuit-against-chess-... > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/058eee283... > > > As a result of filing this lawsuit, I have been banned from posting to > > Wikipedia. Apparently Wikipedia has an unwritten rule that anybody on > > Wikipedia who sues anybody else who also happens to be on Wikipedia > > gets banned. > > > Now, it seems that I have been kicked off of eBay too. I still have > > not heard anything back from eBay as to the reason. > > > As a result of being suspended from eBay, I cannot give Bill Brock the > > positive feedback he is entitled to receive for completing this > > transaction. > > > Sam Sloan > > Always, /always/ set followups to a *single* newsgroup when you > crosspost. I seriously doubt the people in the other newsgroups want to > hear your whining in the first place. > > Evidently you were an abusive user of both ebay and wikipedia, and > you've been spanked by both ebay and wikipedia. Good. Now stop whining > and get over it. > > If you can't keep yourself from whining, do it in alt.whine. Not true. If you look at my eBay profile you will see that I have been a member since 2002 and have a 100% positive feedback rating. http://myworld.ebay.com/xxcomicsxx It is completely crazy that eBay would suspend me without telling me the reason. On Wikipedia, the only significant complaints made against me came from Louis Blair, an Internet gadfly who frequently attacks me here. Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most important chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", which means that their biographies can never be posted on Wikipedia. One of these is Geoffrey Borg, an International Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try creating a Wikipedia biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. He can blame Louis Blair for this. By the way, Louis Blair was rewarded for his attacks on me by being made a member of the "Forum Oversight Committee" which regulates postings to the USCF Issues Forum. Sam Sloan
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Date: 22 Jul 2008 09:14:31
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R.?=
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email protected]... > > Not true. If you look at my eBay profile you will see that I have been > a member since 2002 and have a 100% positive feedback rating. > http://myworld.ebay.com/xxcomicsxx > > It is completely crazy that eBay would suspend me without telling me > the reason. You have broken their rules and so they have zapped you. Google a bit and you will find thousands complaining that the same thing has happened to them. You can also find 'services' instructing these poor slobs how to get back on ebay. Essentially they are told to create a new identity. This is not an option for you because the list of pirated books you are trying to sell will be recognized immediately. You can also apply to ebay for reinstatement, provided that you can figure out how to get the application form, but then you have to sign a statement promising that you are the rightful owner of the goods you are selling, i.e you would need to sign a false statement... > > On Wikipedia, the only significant complaints made against me came > from Louis Blair, an Internet gadfly who frequently attacks me here. The stuff you wrote on Wikipedia was mostly hearsay and tendentious drivel. If Wikipedia is to have any credibility at all, it is obvious that inveterate liars like you must not be allowed to write there. > Louis Blair, while attacking me, also got four of the most important > chess personalities in the world "salted the earth", which means that > their biographies can never be posted on Wikipedia. One of these is > Geoffrey Borg, an International Master and FIDE Vice-President. Try > creating a Wikipedia biography for Geoffrey Borg and see what happens. > He can blame Louis Blair for this. LOL. Geoffrey Borg is one of the four most important chess personalities? The other three are all named Sam Sloan, I suppose.
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 23:48:47
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >chess personalities There's an entry for my collection of oxymorons. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 21:00:05
From: Roy Carin
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On 07/21/2008 08:05 PM, samsloan wrote: > Bill Brock sold me a book on eBay for one cent. Of course, he probably > did not realize that he was selling it to me because the real identity > of the buyer is not generally revealed until the auction is over. > Also, I did not immediately realize that he was the seller when I bid > on that and other chess books. > > The book Bill Brock boldly sold me was "The 64-Square Looking Glass: > Great Games of Chess in World Literature" by the late Burt Hochberg. > Item number 220253883953 > > So I bought Burt's book by Bill Brock. > http://myworld.ebay.com/billbrock > http://myworld.ebay.com/xxcomicsxx > > Naturally, I am sure that Bill Brock did not intend to sell Burt's > book for only one penny. He probably intended one cent to be just a > low starting bid. When only I bid for it, I became the buyer. > > Naturally, I feared that Bill Brock would not send Burt's book when he > realized that I was the buyer. However, not only did it arrive but it > came by UPS, an expedited delivery. Tracking number was > 1Z GT7 302 03 9071 205 2 > > http://www.amazon.com/dp/081291929 > > Those of you who do not play chess will not realize what is so > surprising about all this. It is that I have a lawsuit pending in > federal court against Bill Brock: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html > http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/new-lawsuit-against-chess-federation/ > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/058eee283f11a6b3 > > As a result of filing this lawsuit, I have been banned from posting to > Wikipedia. Apparently Wikipedia has an unwritten rule that anybody on > Wikipedia who sues anybody else who also happens to be on Wikipedia > gets banned. > > Now, it seems that I have been kicked off of eBay too. I still have > not heard anything back from eBay as to the reason. > > As a result of being suspended from eBay, I cannot give Bill Brock the > positive feedback he is entitled to receive for completing this > transaction. > > Sam Sloan Always, /always/ set followups to a *single* newsgroup when you crosspost. I seriously doubt the people in the other newsgroups want to hear your whining in the first place. Evidently you were an abusive user of both ebay and wikipedia, and you've been spanked by both ebay and wikipedia. Good. Now stop whining and get over it. If you can't keep yourself from whining, do it in alt.whine.
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 21:42:02
From: tony cooper
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:05:25 -0700 (PDT), samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: >Bill Brock sold me a book on eBay for one cent. Of course, he probably >did not realize that he was selling it to me because the real identity >of the buyer is not generally revealed until the auction is over. >Also, I did not immediately realize that he was the seller when I bid >on that and other chess books. > >The book Bill Brock boldly sold me was "The 64-Square Looking Glass: >Great Games of Chess in World Literature" by the late Burt Hochberg. >Item number 220253883953 > >So I bought Burt's book by Bill Brock. >http://myworld.ebay.com/billbrock >http://myworld.ebay.com/xxcomicsxx > >Naturally, I am sure that Bill Brock did not intend to sell Burt's >book for only one penny. He probably intended one cent to be just a >low starting bid. When only I bid for it, I became the buyer. > >Naturally, I feared that Bill Brock would not send Burt's book when he >realized that I was the buyer. However, not only did it arrive but it >came by UPS, an expedited delivery. Tracking number was >1Z GT7 302 03 9071 205 2 > >http://www.amazon.com/dp/081291929 > >Those of you who do not play chess will not realize what is so >surprising about all this. It is that I have a lawsuit pending in >federal court against Bill Brock: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/nyregion/08chess.html >http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/new-lawsuit-against-chess-federation/ >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/msg/058eee283f11a6b3 > >As a result of filing this lawsuit, I have been banned from posting to >Wikipedia. Apparently Wikipedia has an unwritten rule that anybody on >Wikipedia who sues anybody else who also happens to be on Wikipedia >gets banned. > >Now, it seems that I have been kicked off of eBay too. I still have >not heard anything back from eBay as to the reason. > >As a result of being suspended from eBay, I cannot give Bill Brock the >positive feedback he is entitled to receive for completing this >transaction. > This is far, far more important to you than it is to anyone else. That probably includes Bill Brock. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 18:42:23
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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samsloan wrote: > I could make a wisecrack here about how Bill Brock should have studied > this book (which he obviously did not do or it would be ragged now) > and then he might not have lost the grudge match to me. How would studying a book of /great games/ have helped Mr. Brock when facing you? I wonder if Mr. Brock might not have done better to just study tactics-- mainly in crazy positions where the opponent does not understand /real chess/. -- help bot
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Date: 21 Jul 2008 18:15:52
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Thank you Bill Brock for your One Penny book!!!
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Sorry, the book by Burt Bill Brock sold me is listed on Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/dp/0812919297/ It is a big book and arrived here in perfect, near mint condition. I could make a wisecrack here about how Bill Brock should have studied this book (which he obviously did not do or it would be ragged now) and then he might not have lost the grudge match to me. Sam Sloan
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