Joel Channing is attacking me again

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Date: 24 Dec 2006 07:51:24
From: samsloan
Subject: Joel Channing is attacking me again

Sam,

I, and perhaps some others, would like to know whom your confidants
are. Who calls you frequently to give you counsel? Four or five names
names have been mentioned frequently, but I would not care to
speculate. So, why don't you just tell us? Are any of them former
enemies of yours? Inquiring minds want to know: have you become the
unwitting tool of sinister forces?

Joel

XOXOXOXOXOXO

Joel Channing wants me to betray my friends Leroy Dubeck, Beatriz
inello, Don Schultz, Steve Doyle and Sunil Weeramantry. That won't
happen. My slate can beat your slate any day.

Sam Sloan

Date: 20 Oct 2007 21:13:03
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

On Oct 20, 6:29 pm, "Tom tinak" <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > Exactly how
> > would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
> > chess in the US?
>
> Wouldn't the USCF be better off today if the FSS had been identified prior
> to the last EB election?
>
> - Tom tinak

Would we know that spending time hunting down the "FSS" would have led
to that result? Woudn't the USCF be better off today if we had a US
world chess champion?

Date: 21 Oct 2007 05:27:56
From: Tom Martinak
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

>>> "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> Exactly how
>>> would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
>>> chess in the US?

>>Tom tinak" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wouldn't the USCF be better off today if the FSS had been identified
>> prior
>> to the last EB election?

>"Randy Bauer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Would we know that spending time hunting down the "FSS" would have led
> to that result?

But that isn't the question that you asked. You are the one that made the
assumption that we would catch and identify FSS - and then asked exactly how
that would have furthered chess. It looks like now that your question has
been answered, you want to change your question and say that we might not
have succeeded anyway.

- Tom tinak

Date: 20 Oct 2007 19:33:23
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

On Oct 20, 5:35 pm, Randy Bauer <[email protected] > wrote:

> There is often complaining on this newsgroup that the USCF does little
> to accomplish its mission to further chess in the US. Exactly how
> would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
> chess in the US?

If it's an EB member, the answer is obvious.

Incidentally, Randy, there were faked posts under my name too.

Date: 20 Oct 2007 19:31:18
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

On Oct 20, 6:39 pm, Kenneth Sloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> Tom tinak wrote:
> > "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> >> Exactly how
> >> would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
> >> chess in the US?
>
> > Wouldn't the USCF be better off today if the FSS had been identified prior
> > to the last EB election?
>
> > - Tom tinak
>
> do you always answer a question WITH a question?

Isn't that the purpose of this thread?

Date: 20 Oct 2007 19:28:24
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

Date: 21 Oct 2007 00:17:08
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

The Historian wrote:
> On Oct 20, 6:39 pm, Kenneth Sloan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tom tinak wrote:
>>> "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Exactly how
>>>> would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
>>>> chess in the US?
>>> Wouldn't the USCF be better off today if the FSS had been identified prior
>>> to the last EB election?
>>> - Tom tinak
>> do you always answer a question WITH a question?
>
> Isn't that the purpose of this thread?
>

No.

--
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University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/

Date: 20 Oct 2007 15:35:18
From: Randy Bauer
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

On Oct 20, 10:44 am, [email protected] (Sam Sloan) wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2006 07:58:16 -0800, "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >The Fake samsloan wrote:
> >> Sam,
>
> >> I, and perhaps some others, would like to know whom your confidants
> >> are. Who calls you frequently to give you counsel? Four or five names
> >> names have been mentioned frequently, but I would not care to
> >> speculate. So, why don't you just tell us? Are any of them former
> >> enemies of yours? Inquiring minds want to know: have you become the
> >> unwitting tool of sinister forces?
>
> >> Joel
>
> >> XOXOXOXOXOXO
>
> >> Joel Channing wants me to betray my friends Leroy Dubeck, Beatriz
> >> inello, Don Schultz, Steve Doyle and Sunil Weeramantry. That won't
> >> happen. My slate can beat your slate any day.
>
> >> Sam Sloan
>
> >The Fake Sam Sloan beat me to it. He read Channings post over on
> >http://www.uschess.org/forumsand posted his fake response over here
> >even before I read it there.
>
> >This guy is really fast. Somebody should check to see who has been
> >logged in over there.
>
> >The Real Sam Sloan
>
> Here is an example. The Fake Sam Sloan took something I had posted on
> the USCF Forums, changed it and reposted it over to rgcp within a few
> minutes.
>
> Obviously, the Fake Sam Sloan could have been caught and identified
> had Mike Nolan or anyone else with administrator priviliges tried.
>
> The Real Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mike Nolan is a paid private contractor for the USCF. Which part of
his project duties would this have fallen under?

There is often complaining on this newsgroup that the USCF does little
to accomplish its mission to further chess in the US. Exactly how
would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
chess in the US?

Try and be rational in your analysis.

Randy Bauer

Date: 20 Oct 2007 23:29:29
From: Tom Martinak
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

"Randy Bauer" <[email protected] > wrote

> Exactly how
> would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
> chess in the US?

Wouldn't the USCF be better off today if the FSS had been identified prior
to the last EB election?

- Tom tinak

Date: 20 Oct 2007 18:39:06
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

Tom tinak wrote:
> "Randy Bauer" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Exactly how
>> would catching and identifying the "Fake Sam Sloan" have furthered
>> chess in the US?
>
> Wouldn't the USCF be better off today if the FSS had been identified prior
> to the last EB election?
>
> - Tom tinak
>
>
do you always answer a question WITH a question?

--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

Date: 20 Oct 2007 18:09:52
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

Randy Bauer wrote:
>
> Try and be rational in your analysis.
>
> Randy Bauer
>
>

Lead by example.

--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

Date: 24 Dec 2006 07:58:16
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

The Fake samsloan wrote:
> Sam,
>
> I, and perhaps some others, would like to know whom your confidants
> are. Who calls you frequently to give you counsel? Four or five names
> names have been mentioned frequently, but I would not care to
> speculate. So, why don't you just tell us? Are any of them former
> enemies of yours? Inquiring minds want to know: have you become the
> unwitting tool of sinister forces?
>
> Joel
>
> XOXOXOXOXOXO
>
> Joel Channing wants me to betray my friends Leroy Dubeck, Beatriz
> inello, Don Schultz, Steve Doyle and Sunil Weeramantry. That won't
> happen. My slate can beat your slate any day.
>
> Sam Sloan

The Fake Sam Sloan beat me to it. He read Channings post over on
http://www.uschess.org/forums and posted his fake response over here
even before I read it there.

This guy is really fast. Somebody should check to see who has been
logged in over there.

The Real Sam Sloan

Date: 20 Oct 2007 15:44:13
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: Joel Channing is attacking me again

On 24 Dec 2006 07:58:16 -0800, "samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote:

>The Fake samsloan wrote:
>> Sam,
>>
>> I, and perhaps some others, would like to know whom your confidants
>> are. Who calls you frequently to give you counsel? Four or five names
>> names have been mentioned frequently, but I would not care to
>> speculate. So, why don't you just tell us? Are any of them former
>> enemies of yours? Inquiring minds want to know: have you become the
>> unwitting tool of sinister forces?
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> XOXOXOXOXOXO
>>
>> Joel Channing wants me to betray my friends Leroy Dubeck, Beatriz
>> inello, Don Schultz, Steve Doyle and Sunil Weeramantry. That won't
>> happen. My slate can beat your slate any day.
>>
>> Sam Sloan
>
>The Fake Sam Sloan beat me to it. He read Channings post over on
>http://www.uschess.org/forums and posted his fake response over here
>even before I read it there.
>
>This guy is really fast. Somebody should check to see who has been
>logged in over there.
>
>The Real Sam Sloan

Here is an example. The Fake Sam Sloan took something I had posted on
the USCF Forums, changed it and reposted it over to rgcp within a few
minutes.

Obviously, the Fake Sam Sloan could have been caught and identified
had Mike Nolan or anyone else with administrator priviliges tried.

The Real Sam Sloan