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Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:53:41
From: samsloan
Subject: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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I'll do anything to stop Polgar from getting elected. This bitch is not
going to stop my dream of getting re-elected for the executive board. I
want 4 more years. I'll take her down. I'll do whatever it takes. Her
idea of getting non-chess politicians to run for the EB is stupid.
It'll never work. The USCF needs chess politicians like me. Vote for
me! 4 more years! 4 more years!
Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 21:29:20
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Another Sloan Lie: Polgar's "Free Ads" in Chess Life
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samsloan wrote:
> I am not trying to stop Polgar from being elected. She will be elected,
> regardless of whether I or anybody else tries to stop her.
>
> I will ask that her free ads in Chess Life magazine be stopped.
> Everybody else but Polgar has to pay for ads in Chess Life. In the
> December, 2006 issue, she has free ads on pages 79, 69, 68 and 46, plus
> there is an interview, picture and ad of her on pages 44-45. Her
> regular column, for which she is paid, is on pages 12-13.
>
> This should all be stopped, now that she is a candidate for election.
>
> Sam sloan
Of course, you can provide PROOF of these "free ads," right, Sloan?
RIGHT??
<silence >
Of course he can't. Because it is yet another bald-faced LIE.
Voters, take note.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:30:19
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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samsloan wrote:
> I'll do anything to stop Polgar from getting elected. This bitch is not
> going to stop my dream of getting re-elected for the executive board. I
> want 4 more years. I'll take her down. I'll do whatever it takes. Her
> idea of getting non-chess politicians to run for the EB is stupid.
> It'll never work. The USCF needs chess politicians like me. Vote for
> me! 4 more years! 4 more years!
>
> Sam Sloan
The above is another Fake Sam Sloan post.
I am not trying to stop Polgar from being elected. She will be elected,
regardless of whether I or anybody else tries to stop her.
I will ask that her free ads in Chess Life magazine be stopped.
Everybody else but Polgar has to pay for ads in Chess Life. In the
December, 2006 issue, she has free ads on pages 79, 69, 68 and 46, plus
there is an interview, picture and ad of her on pages 44-45. Her
regular column, for which she is paid, is on pages 12-13.
This should all be stopped, now that she is a candidate for election.
Sam sloan
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 20:03:48
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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>
>The above is another Fake Sam Sloan post.
>
>I am not trying to stop Polgar from being elected. She will be elected,
>regardless of whether I or anybody else tries to stop her.
>
>I will ask that her free ads in Chess Life magazine be stopped.
Why?
>Everybody else but Polgar has to pay for ads in Chess Life. In the
>December, 2006 issue, she has free ads on pages 79, 69, 68 and 46, plus
>there is an interview, picture and ad of her on pages 44-45. Her
>regular column, for which she is paid, is on pages 12-13.
Unlike other chessplayers she is a former World Champion so doesn't
she get a little slack. Doesn't it make you upset that other women
chessplayers who aren't even in her league get more attention? More
breaks etc, etc.
>
>This should all be stopped, now that she is a candidate for election.
Oh yeah? What if Gata put an ad in the Magazine. I bet you wouldn't
get upset. Right now Gata is one of the top players in the world
already and if he got a shot at the title he would have a good chance
to win it. If Gata got some support from putting a free ad in the
magazine then why not?
EZoto
>Sam sloan
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 15:31:00
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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EZoto wrote:
>
> Unlike other chessplayers she is a former World Champion so doesn't
> she get a little slack.
No. As a former World Champion, Chess Life columnist, etc., she is
expected to be aware of the rules of the game and the traditions of the
organization.
Newbies like Joel Channing were cut some slack because they were so
obviously ignorant of context and had to be allowed some time to come up
to speed. Sock puppets are to be pitied and coddled. Some grew up and
become independent, repected voices. Some have not.
As for your comments about being a woman...I submit that "cutting her
some slack" on that score simply opens the door to allowing fellow EB
members to ignore her once she is elected. Why pay attention to someone
who needed "slack" to be admitted to the club?
Perhaps more than anyone else, GM Polgar knows the value of entering the
contest on an even basis, and asking for no special dispensation.
I trust she is aware of previous GM members of the (then) Policy Board
who sometimes gave off the attitude "I'm a GM, you have to listen to
me". That approach has always failed miserably - and with good reason.
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 21:45:23
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:31:00 -0600, Kenneth Sloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>EZoto wrote:
>
>>
>> Unlike other chessplayers she is a former World Champion so doesn't
>> she get a little slack.
>
>No. As a former World Champion, Chess Life columnist, etc., she is
>expected to be aware of the rules of the game and the traditions of the
>organization.
>
>Newbies like Joel Channing were cut some slack because they were so
>obviously ignorant of context and had to be allowed some time to come up
>to speed. Sock puppets are to be pitied and coddled. Some grew up and
>become independent, repected voices. Some have not.
So why was Joel Channing cut some slack? Polgar isn't a sock puppet.
The Pogar's are known around the chess world. There voice is
definitely independent and well respected.
>As for your comments about being a woman...I submit that "cutting her
>some slack" on that score simply opens the door to allowing fellow EB
>members to ignore her once she is elected. Why pay attention to someone
>who needed "slack" to be admitted to the club?
Who said she needed it?
>Perhaps more than anyone else, GM Polgar knows the value of entering the
>contest on an even basis, and asking for no special dispensation.
She probably does.
>I trust she is aware of previous GM members of the (then) Policy Board
>who sometimes gave off the attitude "I'm a GM, you have to listen to
>me". That approach has always failed miserably - and with good reason.
She hasn't even been elected to the board and already your judging her
attitude. I know that previous GM's were pretty arrogant but at least
give her a chance before we start throwing stones. I for one was
totally not a supporter of Sam Sloam being elected but he hasn't shown
things that people were afraid of. While some who were elected in
high regard turned out to be total morons.
EZoto
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 16:17:54
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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EZoto wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:31:00 -0600, Kenneth Sloan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> EZoto wrote:
>>
>>> Unlike other chessplayers she is a former World Champion so doesn't
>>> she get a little slack.
>> No. As a former World Champion, Chess Life columnist, etc., she is
>> expected to be aware of the rules of the game and the traditions of the
>> organization.
>>
>> Newbies like Joel Channing were cut some slack because they were so
>> obviously ignorant of context and had to be allowed some time to come up
>> to speed. Sock puppets are to be pitied and coddled. Some grew up and
>> become independent, repected voices. Some have not.
>
> So why was Joel Channing cut some slack?
"Newbies like Joel Channing..."
> Polgar isn't a sock puppet.
No one said she was.
> The Pogar's are known around the chess world. There voice is
> definitely independent and well respected.
>
>> As for your comments about being a woman...I submit that "cutting her
>> some slack" on that score simply opens the door to allowing fellow EB
>> members to ignore her once she is elected. Why pay attention to someone
>> who needed "slack" to be admitted to the club?
>
> Who said she needed it?
someone named "EZoto" wrote: "...so doesn't she get a little slack?"
>
>> Perhaps more than anyone else, GM Polgar knows the value of entering the
>> contest on an even basis, and asking for no special dispensation.
>
> She probably does.
>
>> I trust she is aware of previous GM members of the (then) Policy Board
>> who sometimes gave off the attitude "I'm a GM, you have to listen to
>> me". That approach has always failed miserably - and with good reason.
>
> She hasn't even been elected to the board and already your judging her
> attitude.
Where did I do that? What part of "I trust..." do you not understand?
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 01:19:52
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: I will stop Polgar from getting elected to the EB
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:17:54 -0600, Kenneth Sloan
<[email protected] > wrote:
>EZoto wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:31:00 -0600, Kenneth Sloan
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> EZoto wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unlike other chessplayers she is a former World Champion so doesn't
>>>> she get a little slack.
>>> No. As a former World Champion, Chess Life columnist, etc., she is
>>> expected to be aware of the rules of the game and the traditions of the
>>> organization.
>>>
>>> Newbies like Joel Channing were cut some slack because they were so
>>> obviously ignorant of context and had to be allowed some time to come up
>>> to speed. Sock puppets are to be pitied and coddled. Some grew up and
>>> become independent, repected voices. Some have not.
>>
>> So why was Joel Channing cut some slack?
>
>"Newbies like Joel Channing..."
>
>> Polgar isn't a sock puppet.
>
>No one said she was.
>
>> The Pogar's are known around the chess world. There voice is
>> definitely independent and well respected.
>>
>>> As for your comments about being a woman...I submit that "cutting her
>>> some slack" on that score simply opens the door to allowing fellow EB
>>> members to ignore her once she is elected. Why pay attention to someone
>>> who needed "slack" to be admitted to the club?
>>
>> Who said she needed it?
>
>someone named "EZoto" wrote: "...so doesn't she get a little slack?"
>
>>
>>> Perhaps more than anyone else, GM Polgar knows the value of entering the
>>> contest on an even basis, and asking for no special dispensation.
>>
>> She probably does.
>>
>>> I trust she is aware of previous GM members of the (then) Policy Board
>>> who sometimes gave off the attitude "I'm a GM, you have to listen to
>>> me". That approach has always failed miserably - and with good reason.
>>
>> She hasn't even been elected to the board and already your judging her
>> attitude.
>
>Where did I do that? What part of "I trust..." do you not understand?
I apologize. I missed that.
EZoto
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