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Date: 03 Dec 2006 22:23:35
From: John Evans
Subject: Help with Game Analysis
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Can you guys look at this game. This is my second attempt at an analysis of one of my games. http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/2006/12/game-analysis.html -- Thanks, John http://growwithchess.com/
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 02:44:05
From: Ivan Baricevic
Subject: Re: Help with Game Analysis
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"John Evans" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:H7Ich.5541$%[email protected]... > Can you guys look at this game. This is my second attempt at an analysis of > one of my games. > > http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/2006/12/game-analysis.html > > -- > Thanks, > John > http://growwithchess.com/ > > Excalibur2 (1930) - PapaDragon (1696) [D20] GCS GCS, 26.11.2006 1.d4 d5 2.c4 Ok. For gambits you should know that you don't need to try too hard to protect the pawn but instead counter somehow. 2...dxc4 3.e4 Nc6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Bxc4 e6 6.d5 Ne5 This knight move was bad. Don't complicate things. Make it simple. Better was just grabbing the pawn. 7.Qa4+ Nd7 8.Ne5 Ngf6 9.f3 Actually you are slightly better here. Instead of running, just try to counter opponents more dangerous pieces. In this position exd5. If he takes your bishop and you take his... yes, you exchanged bishops. But the difference is that you get rid of your bad bishop because his pawns lock him and your opponent loses its active bishop. 9...Bh5 10.dxe6 fxe6 11.Bxe6 In this position I'd play either c6 with the threat of Nxe5 or maybe fork on c5 or Qe7 when white is forced to exchange his active and dangerous pieces. 11...Bd6 12.Nxd7 Nxd7 13.Bxd7+ Qxd7 14.Qxd7+ Kxd7 15.0-0 Ok, you say you don't have a plan here. Well, ask yourself how can you improve your position and placement of your pieces? My suggestions are... 1. Move your inactive bishop from h5. He is locked there so he has to be given the square that at least has the potential of good bishop development - say Bf72. Try to move your rooks to d and e files 15...Bc5+ 16.Kh1 Rad8 17.Bg5 Why not counter with Be7? You are running all of the game. FIGHT! 17...Rde8 18.Nc3 c6 19.Rad1+ Someone said Ke6? I think Kc8 is more acurate. It makes your king more safe and away from nasty looking f and e file pawns. 19...Kc8 20.Rc1 Kb8 I simply can't understand the idea behind this move. It just enables white to check you again. I prefer Bd6 - placing you bishop on the crucial diagonal and then if Nb5 > Bb1 21.Bf4+ Ka8 22.Nb5 I would chose Bb6 here. I feel it's more sound and doesn't open the c file. 22...cxb5 23.Rxc5 Again, if you considered placing your bishop on f7 way back when you had no plan, this hanging of a bishop would never hapen. But, you are human and you too make mistakes. Then again, if WC Kramnik can overlook mate in one, you can hang pieces too :) 23...a6 24.Rxh5 h6 25.Rc1 g5 26.Be3 Rd8 27.Rc7 Rd1+ 28.Bg1 Kb8 29.Rg7 Rd6 30.h3 h4 for your opponent was better. 30...Ka8 31.Rgxg5 Rc8 32.Rd5 Rdc6 33.Rc5 Rd6 Another in series of blunders but black was lost anyway. 34.Rxc8# So, to conclude. 1. Don't complicate - play simple chess2. I suggest playing open games at the begining of your chess career3. Don't run - FIGHT!! Make your opponents life a hell.4. Every single move (no matter black or white) ask yourself some questions:a. what's his idea?b. if I can refute his idea, what is he leaving to me with that move?c. am I leaving something to my opponent by playing this move?d. if nothing is happening, how can I improve my position? What's the plan? Hope this comments help. BTW in one of your variations at the begining white had mate in one - Qe6#, examine them again 1-0
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 18:57:02
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Help with Game Analysis
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Here's the game, with my notes embedded. [Event "GCS"] [Site "GCS"] [Date "2006.11.26"] [Round "?"] [White "Excalibur2"] [Black "PapaDragon"] [Result "1-0"] [TimeControl "900"] [Annotator "Evans,John"] [ECO "D20"] [EventDate "2006.??.??"] [PlyCount "67"] [WhiteElo "1930"] [ModificationDate "2006.12.03"] [BlackElo "1696"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 {I recognized that this is the queens gambit accepted, but the truth is that after this I have no idea what the correct continuation is for black. RM: Okay, but you're black here. You get to make the choice. Do you know more about the QGD than the QGA? In any event, you're accepting a gambit. You do have a choice here.} 3. e4 {I see that he is tryng to get back the pawn he's down right away. So I decided to go on the attack and try to keep my pawn advantage by attacking the d4 pawn. RM: I understand antionio's reticence to give lots of tactical variations, but I simply want to point out other strategic considerations: black has a big center which you're probably going ot want to strike back at with your c-pawn.} Nc6 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. Bxc4 e6 {I didn't take the knight because I was worried about the the mate tthreat on f7 after the exchange. And I don't think and can force anything. See variations} (5. ... Bxf3 6. Qxf3 Nf6 7. e5 Nxd4 8. Qd1 Ne4 (8. ... Ng8 $1 {saves the knight - RM} ) 9.Be3 Nc6 10. Qxd8+ Nxd8 11. f3 {and then I'm down a knight.}) (5. ... Nxd4 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Ng5+ Kf6 8. Qxg4 Nc2+ 9. Ke2 Nh6 10. e5+ {white has much better ... find it} Kxe5 11. Qe4+ Kd6 {I'm just in a horrible position. So I think I cant take the knight or pawn} 12. Qxc2 {white has much better ... find it.}) 6. d5 {I have several options here, but I want to attack so I do. I miss the queen check on a4. RM: That's "hope chess." You can't attack unless you have an advantage of some kind.} Ne5 7. Qa4+ Nd7 (7. ... c6 8. dxc6 {you let this pass without comment. You think it's losing for black?}) 8. Ne5 Nf6 9. f3 {I can only save the Bishop by moving it. RM: not true! Look harder at this position.} Bh5 10. dxe6 fxe6 11. Bxe6 Bd6 {This was a mistake. I have three pieces attacking d7 and only two protecting it. RM: not true. Your knight is protected by a knight, your queen, and your king. You: I need to get a piece off that square and the only thing that does that is c6. This move is a losing move.} (11. ... c6 12.Nxd7 Nxd7 13. Qd4 {I still think I'm in trouble because he can castle and put more prssure on d7, but i hav some more time now. RM: White is clealry better here, but this is nowhere close to losing after} Nc5 {white is up a pawn but behind in development.}) 12. Nxd7 Nxd7 13. Bxd7+ Qxd7 14. Qxd7+ Kxd7 {I hate havin g my king out like this but i felt like i was still in the game. I'm down two pawns so its not looking good I'm hoping he makes a mistake. i have no plan. RM: As has been pointing out, you're not down two pawns, you're down one. That being said, you're much worse, because your opponent has a protected passed pawn. However: you procede to make your position much worse over the next several moves.} 15. O-O Bc5+ 16. Kh1 Rad8 17. Bg5 Rde8 18. Nc3 c6 {Did this to prevent Nb5, but now I see thats no a threat because the bishop protects a7 and the king protect c7} (18. ... h6 19. Bf4 g5 20. Rad1+ Kc8 21. Bg3 Rd8 22. Rxd8+ Rxd8 23. Nb5 {RM: but in this position, you can play c6 and be perfectly safe.}) 19. Rad1+ Kc8 {RM: did you consider Ke6 here? Why or why not?} 20. Rc1 Kb8 21.Bf4+ Ka8 22. Nb5 cxb5 23. Rxc5 a6 {Blunder!! Left Bishop hanging} 24. Rxh5 h6 25. Rc1 g5 26. Be3 Rd8 27. Rc7 Rd1+ 28. Bg1 Kb8 29. Rg7 Rd6 30. h3 Ka8 31. Rgxg5 Rc8 32. Rd5 Rdc6 33. Rc5 Rd6 34. Rxc8# 1-0
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 23:29:42
From: John Evans
Subject: Re: Help with Game Analysis
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This was very much appreciated. I am very interested in going over your comments and I will let you know what I discover with you guided questions. -- Thanks, John http://growwithchess.com/ "Ron" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Here's the game, with my notes embedded. > > [Event "GCS"] > > [Site "GCS"] > > [Date "2006.11.26"] > > [Round "?"] > > [White "Excalibur2"] > > [Black "PapaDragon"] > > [Result "1-0"] > > [TimeControl "900"] > > [Annotator "Evans,John"] > > [ECO "D20"] > > [EventDate "2006.??.??"] > > [PlyCount "67"] > > [WhiteElo "1930"] > > [ModificationDate "2006.12.03"] > > [BlackElo "1696"] > > > > 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 {I recognized that this is the queens gambit > accepted, but the truth is that after this I have no idea what the > correct continuation is for black. RM: Okay, but you're black here. You > get to make the choice. Do you know more about the QGD than the QGA? In > any event, you're accepting a gambit. You do have a choice here.} 3. e4 > {I see that he is tryng to get back the pawn he's down right away. So I > decided to go on the attack and try to keep my pawn advantage by > attacking the d4 pawn. RM: I understand antionio's reticence to > give lots of tactical variations, but I simply want to point out other > strategic considerations: black has a big center which you're probably > going ot want to strike back at with your c-pawn.} Nc6 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. > Bxc4 e6 {I didn't take the knight because I was worried about the the > mate tthreat on f7 after the exchange. And I don't think and can force > anything. See variations} (5. ... Bxf3 6. Qxf3 Nf6 7. e5 Nxd4 8. Qd1 Ne4 > (8. ... Ng8 $1 {saves the knight - RM} ) 9.Be3 Nc6 10. Qxd8+ Nxd8 11. f3 > {and then I'm down a knight.}) (5. ... Nxd4 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Ng5+ Kf6 8. > Qxg4 Nc2+ 9. Ke2 Nh6 10. e5+ {white has much better ... find it} Kxe5 > 11. Qe4+ Kd6 {I'm just in a horrible position. So I think I cant take > the knight or pawn} 12. Qxc2 {white has much better ... find it.}) 6. > d5 {I have several options here, but I want to attack so I do. I miss > the queen check on a4. RM: That's "hope chess." You can't attack unless > you have an advantage of some kind.} Ne5 7. Qa4+ Nd7 (7. ... c6 8. dxc6 > {you let this pass without comment. You think it's losing for black?}) > 8. Ne5 Nf6 9. f3 {I can only save the Bishop by moving it. RM: not true! > Look harder at this position.} Bh5 10. dxe6 fxe6 11. Bxe6 Bd6 {This was > a mistake. I have three pieces attacking d7 and only two protecting it. > RM: not true. Your knight is protected by a knight, your queen, and your > king. You: I need to get a piece off that square and the only thing that > does that is c6. This move is a losing move.} (11. ... c6 12.Nxd7 Nxd7 > 13. Qd4 {I still think I'm in trouble because he can castle and put > more prssure on d7, but i hav some more time now. RM: White is clealry > better here, but this is nowhere close to losing after} Nc5 {white is up > a pawn but behind in development.}) 12. Nxd7 Nxd7 13. Bxd7+ Qxd7 14. > Qxd7+ Kxd7 {I hate havin g my king out like this but i felt like i was > still in the game. I'm down two pawns so its not looking good I'm hoping > he makes a mistake. i have no plan. RM: As has been pointing out, you're > not down two pawns, you're down one. That being said, you're much worse, > because your opponent has a protected passed pawn. However: you procede > to make your position much worse over the next several moves.} 15. O-O > Bc5+ 16. Kh1 Rad8 17. Bg5 Rde8 18. Nc3 c6 {Did this to prevent Nb5, but > now I see thats no a threat because the bishop protects a7 and > the king protect c7} (18. ... h6 19. Bf4 g5 20. Rad1+ Kc8 21. Bg3 Rd8 > 22. Rxd8+ Rxd8 23. Nb5 {RM: but in this position, you can play c6 and be > perfectly safe.}) 19. Rad1+ Kc8 {RM: did you consider Ke6 here? Why or > why not?} 20. Rc1 Kb8 21.Bf4+ Ka8 22. Nb5 cxb5 23. Rxc5 a6 {Blunder!! > Left Bishop hanging} 24. Rxh5 h6 25. Rc1 g5 26. Be3 Rd8 27. Rc7 Rd1+ 28. > Bg1 Kb8 29. Rg7 Rd6 30. h3 Ka8 31. Rgxg5 Rc8 32. Rd5 Rdc6 33. Rc5 Rd6 > 34. Rxc8# 1-0
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