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Date: 08 Jan 2009 22:32:34
From: Sanny
Subject: Help bot wins the Master Level.
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Help Bot today played against Master Level and was able to win the
game.
The game was lost in the Middle game. There was some Mate Threath that
Master Level sacrificed its Rook and then sacrificed its Queen and
then resigned.
What was wrong. Was there any way to save the king from the two Rooks?
Till 31st move the game was Equal.
I think instead of playing 31..... K-h8 Master should have played
31.... R-f7 and exchanged the Rooks. and may have drawn the game.
As when Help Bot Played 32. Rc7 The game was totally Lost.
Game Played between help bot and master at GetClub.com
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help bot: (White)
master: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM37012&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(help bot) -- (master)
1. Ng1-f3{8} Ng8-f6{0}
2. g2-g3{8} d7-d5{0}
3. Bf1-g2{4} e7-e6{0}
4. Ke1-g1{4} Bf8-e7{0}
5. d2-d3{12} Nf6-g4{418}
6. c2-c4{40} Nb8-c6{754}
7. Nb1-d2{112} d5-c4{558}
8. Nd2-c4{18} h7-h5{670}
9. h2-h3{82} Ng4-f6{528}
10. a2-a3{96} Ke8-g8{560}
11. b2-b4{94} Nc6-d4{870}
12. Nf3-d4{38} Qd8-d4{326}
13. Bc1-b2{42} Qd4-d8{562}
14. Ra1-c1{80} h5-h4{520}
15. g3-g4{474} c7-c6{522}
16. d3-d4{140} Nf6-d5{484}
17. e2-e4{28} Nd5-f4{530}
18. Nc4-e3{92} Be7-g5{408}
19. Rc1-c5{204} b7-b6{472}
20. Rc5-c2{138} Bc8-a6{880}
21. Ne3-c4{226} Nf4-g2{452}
22. Kg1-g2{12} Ba6-c4{814}
23. Rc2-c4{18} Qd8-d6{420}
24. Qd1-f3{108} f7-f6{558}
25. Bb2-c1{94} b6-b5{340}
26. Rc4-c5{106} Bg5-c1{368}
27. Rf1-c1{56} Qd6-d4{654}
28. Rc5-c6{28} e6-e5{366}
29. Rc1-d1{84} Qd4-b2{546}
30. Rd1-d5{124} a7-a6{352}
31. Rd5-d7{116} Kg8-h8{1522}
32. Rc6-c7{120} f6-f5{320}
33. Rd7-g7{104} Ra8-a7{1312}
34. Rc7-a7{30} Qb2-a3{240}
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help bot: (White)
master: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM37012&game=Chess
Why was Master level not able to exhange the Rooks. Was the move
31.... R-f7 By Master Level had not saved the Mate by exchanging the
Rooks?
I think only 31... K-g8 (instead of 31... R-f7) was the wrong move or
was there any other wrong move in this game?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 15 Jan 2009 17:06:01
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: Help bot wins the Master Level.
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Sanny wrote:
> Help Bot today played against Master Level and was able to win the
> game.
"Dog bites Man"
let us know when "Man bites Dog"...
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/
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Date: 11 Jan 2009 23:50:52
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Help bot wins the Master Level.
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Today GetClub was further improved now Easy level will give good
challenge to you.
Today Easy Level (30 sec / move) vs Rybka (6 sec / move) game went
till 49 moves.
It was for the first time that Rybka could not find a quick mate
against the Easy Level.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 09 Jan 2009 00:26:46
From: help bot
Subject: Re: Help bot wins the Master Level.
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On Jan 9, 1:32=A0am, Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM37012&game=
=3DChess
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> Why was Master level not able to exhange the Rooks.
Because White would still be left with one Rook
on the seventh rank, and the White Queen can
penetrate as well.
> Was the move 31.... R-f7 By Master Level had not
> saved the Mate by exchanging the Rooks?
After 31. ...Rf7 there follows: 32. Rxf7 Kxf7,
33. g5, and the f6 pawn (and square) falls.
> I think only 31... K-g8 (instead of =A031... R-f7) was the wrong move or
> was there any other wrong move in this game?
Sanny, there were a lot of wrong moves in this
game.
I completely overlooked ...Nf4, which destroyed
my entire plan. Near the end, Rybka shows a
number of mate-in-twenty ideas which never even
occured to me, for some reason or other (damn
these confounded 3000+ players).
As for GetClub, it found several strong moves
but missed its opportunity after ...Ba6 by just
exchanging the Bishop on c4, when it could
have tortured me with tactics by leaving both
the Knight (on f4) and Bishop (on a6) on, and
throwing in a timely ...p-f5 to secure the d5
square for Black's Queen.
Right now, I'm getting hammered by one of
the middle levels at GC, having carelessly
overlooked what ought to have been an
obvious tactical cheap shot. I think I will
have to change my entire strategy against
this program; I'm going anti-computer, to
regain my self-respect (and stop getting
beaten up by unexpected tactical shots).
-- help bot
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