GC 's move e4

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Date: 26 Jul 2008 02:42:33
From: Sanny
Subject: GC 's move e4

New game between GetClub Easy Level vs IVAN 60 sec/ move

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec

White Black

1. e4

Waiting for IVANs move.

Bye
Sanny

Date: 26 Jul 2008 07:32:27
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played P-d4 (Pd2-d4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 26 Jul 2008 22:46:32
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Qxd4 (Qd1xd4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4

Took your pawn by Queen.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 27 Jul 2008 22:20:59
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Q-d5 (Qd4-d5)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5

Played Queen forward.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 28 Jul 2008 01:10:06
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Q-d3 (Qd5-d3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3

Played Queen to d3 saving the pawn.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 28 Jul 2008 09:39:37
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played B-e3 (Bc1-e3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 29 Jul 2008 08:31:44
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Q-c4 (Qd3-c4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 29 Jul 2008 22:08:55
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played N-f3 (Ng1-f3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3

Played knight.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 30 Jul 2008 03:22:35
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played B-d3 (Bf1-d3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3

I dont know why GetClub do not take your Knight?

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 30 Jul 2008 08:43:54
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Q-d4(Qc4-d4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4

GetClub one pawn down.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 30 Jul 2008 21:59:30
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Pxd3 (Pc2xd3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3

Pawn took your knight.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 31 Jul 2008 20:26:37
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* Sanny <[email protected] > (18:06) schrieb:

> Played Qxf7 (Qd4xf7)
>
> GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
> White Black
>
>
> 1. e4 e5
> 2. d4 exd4
> 3. Qxd4 Nc6
> 4. Qd5 Nf6
> 5. Qd3 Bc5
> 6. Be3 Nb4
> 7. Qc4 Be7
> 8. Nf3 Nxe4
> 9. Bd3 d5
> 10. Qd4 Nxd3+
> 11. cxd3 c5
> 12. Qxf7
>
> Queen took your pawn. Game is equal now.

That's not a legal move. Don't you mean Qxg7?

If true, I predict the answer Bf6.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 01 Aug 2008 16:27:48
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (05:43) schrieb:

> Ivan is a Excalibur product and i have had it for a few years ..I
> like their stuff , the look of the machine and the pieces BUT my biggest
> complaint is it plays White from the 7th and 8th rank and it bugs me
> because i like to play computer vs computer ..Ivan will think your black
> queen is on E-One...

I don't get your "white from the 7th and 8th rank". That's not chess.
Don't try to change the meaning of the square names or the way the
pieces can move.

Is Ivan hardware? Does it have its own board? Turn it around! Do you use
your own board? Turn it around! Or is it software?

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 01 Aug 2008 18:47:37
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (17:40) schrieb:

> F-6 x B-2 ..Bishop x pawn
>
> Ivan 2.5 ..

You should put your move in an answer to Sanny's list of moves, so he
can find it easily.

> Just go to your search engine and put in Excalibur chess computer ...

Finding the manufacturer at excaliburelectronics.com was a little bit harder.

Are we talking about IVAN II Model 712, or some older version the
website doesn't mention?

> That is how it plays White , you move the white pieces to the 7th and
> 8th rank and you put your black pieces on the first and second rank...I
> am not sure why they do it that way ?

You doing it like the manual says? Pressing MOVE at the start of the
game and then arranging the pieces like the LCD suggests?

> So Ivans white queen is on E-8 and the black queen is on E-one....
> The 7th rank has all your white pawns and the 8th has all the
> rest..Queens on their own color.

When you re-arrange without turning the board, the colors of the squares
are wrong. If one stills wants the queen-rule to be true, the pieces
have to be mirrored. I'm not sure what's more confusing.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 01 Aug 2008 08:40:15
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

F-6 x B-2 ..Bishop x pawn

Ivan 2.5 ..

It has its own board and pieces , it is a table top computer ...The
program is inside the chess board ..It is built in...I can take it
anywhere because it runs off batter and it has a long battery life
too..

Just go to your search engine and put in Excalibur chess computer ...

That is how it plays White , you move the white pieces to the 7th and
8th rank and you put your black pieces on the first and second rank...I
am not sure why they do it that way ?
So Ivans white queen is on E-8 and the black queen is on E-one....
The 7th rank has all your white pawns and the 8th has all the
rest..Queens on their own color.
It never bugged me in the past but once i started to play computer vs
computer then it started to bug me because i all most always have to
play black...

I have played it as white and black vs FRITZ 9 but the other guy was not
confused so the games worked ..Ivan lost BOTH games ...But still the
games showed me ivans weakness..

Date: 31 Jul 2008 20:43:30
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4 Simon

Yes you did get ivans move .

Ivan is a Excalibur product and i have had it for a few years ..I
like their stuff , the look of the machine and the pieces BUT my biggest
complaint is it plays White from the 7th and 8th rank and it bugs me
because i like to play computer vs computer ..Ivan will think your black
queen is on E-One...

Do you have a chess computer ?

Ivan in the chess computer world is weak but strong i the human chess
world ....

If i were to recommend one of their games i say get the " Grand Master
" game because it has come down in price ..It is larger than Ivan and
stronger elo....BUT does it play white from the 7th and 8th rank ? I do
not know , i would ask that before i would buy it .....I have thought
about getting it myself , a nice table top game but that flaw bugs me
enough i mite not ..
It does not bother me when play it myself as white , just when i want
to play other computers....

Date: 31 Jul 2008 09:06:00
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Qxf7 (Qd4xf7)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxf7

Queen took your pawn. Game is equal now.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Aug 2008 04:11:00
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* Sanny <[email protected] > (07:43) schrieb:

> Played N-d2 (Nb1-d2)

> 14. Nd2
>
> Moved its knight to d2

Which knight? There's an error in your algebraic notation: Nd2 is
ambiguous, there's a knight on f3 that could move to d2, too. The right
notation is Nbd2, specifying the originating file.

Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_chess_notation

It would be nice if added tags according to the PGN specification to your
move lists, one could copy/paste the games into Arena and the like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Game_Notation

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 01 Aug 2008 22:43:26
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played N-d2 (Nb1-d2)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nd2

Moved its knight to d2

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Aug 2008 05:04:23
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Pxe4 (Pd3xe4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4

GetClub took your Knight.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Aug 2008 10:31:12
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played B-g5 (Be3-g5)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5

Bishop attacking your Queen.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 02 Aug 2008 22:46:07
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Q-g7(Qh6-g7)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7

Queen attackng your rook.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Aug 2008 02:13:29
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played B-h6 (Bg5-h6)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6

Bishop now threathening your Rook along with the Queen.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Aug 2008 22:08:33
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played P-d5 (Pd4-d5)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. d5

Played pawn attacking your Queen.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 04 Aug 2008 14:24:45
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (07:33) schrieb:

> I am not sure the bishop can get to G-7 ..If it would have moved the
> D-pawn forward then queen takes bishop ...I was thinking bishop to C-3
> to pin the knight .....But now ivan has to save the queen .....If i was
> ivan id try and get the white bishop to e-6 and castle...

I was totally on the wrong board when I wrote that. I Thought that 15.
was dxe4 dxe4, but Ivan played d4. When I corrected that, the game made
much more sense. But I think that's where Ivans trouble started, looks
like it only saw 4 plies ahead.

> i would say GC and Ivan are even and they usually have pretty excting
> games.....

Ivan could get a small advantage back here, but I don't think it will
do f5.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 04 Aug 2008 18:39:51
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* Sanny <[email protected] > (16:38) schrieb:

> 20. Qxh7 f5
> 21. Qxe7 KxQ

> 22. Bxf8 0-0

22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0

You missed black's last move and there should be a + after each checking
move.

> Queen took your Queen. So no queens left.

But passed pawns, so that could change in the future!

Ivan could be a nearly one pawn up at the next move.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 04 Aug 2008 06:49:12
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn F-7 to F-5 ...

You and Ivan think alike .. Ivan has a Battle Screen and it shows you
what move or moves it is thinking of playing and it thought about
moving rook A-8 to B-8 for about 20 seconds then it went to a higher
level and starting thinking about the pawn F-5 move for about 30 seconds
and then it made that move..Glad it did not waste a move on the rook....

Ivan thinks it is a head by 0.I .....basically a even game now ..

I will have a longer night of work so i will move late tonight ...Maybe
ten or eleven PM Seattle time ? I HOPE i am home before that .....

This will be a interesting end game ...

Date: 04 Aug 2008 22:45:33
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

> > 20. Qxh7 f5
> > 21. Qxe7 KxQ
> > 22. Bxf8 0-0
>
> 22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
> 23. 0-0
>
> You missed black's last move and there should be a + after each checking
> move.

Corrected

Date: 05 Aug 2008 04:24:43
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played N-c4 (Nd2-c4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4

Equal game. I was thinking IVAN will win this game but now both are
equal.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Aug 2008 07:15:37
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played N-d6 (Nc4-d6)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4 Be6
26. Nd6

Yes Simon was correct GetClub played Nd6.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Aug 2008 09:04:26
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played R-d1 (Rb1-d1)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4 Be6
26. Nd6 Bxa2
27. Rd1

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Aug 2008 22:30:56
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played P-h3 (Ph2-h3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4 Be6
26. Nd6 Bxa2
27. Rd1 f4
28. h3

Played h pawn. Visit Mall whenever you are free. I hope you can get
atleast 5-10 players to GetClub Chess.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 06 Aug 2008 15:25:48
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (08:21) schrieb:

> Pawn A-7 to A-5 ...
>
> Now ivan - I.3
>
> You have to remember Toga 2 is way more powerful than Ivan .....It can
> see deeper in every move ..

But I can see what it thought at shallower depths, so I can estimate
what Ivan or Getclub might see here.

Pushing the a pawn seems the right thing to do, doing a4 now might cost
Getclub its rook.

> Toga 2 vs Ivan in the future ?

No, but give BasicFun a try, an engine I co-wrote some years ago. It's
Java like Getclub. :-)

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 07 Aug 2008 03:33:23
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* Sanny <[email protected] > (18:49) schrieb:

> There are lots of pieces left and only 1 pawn down So we may continue
> the game. Anything may happen.

I.e. losing a rook to defend against the queened a-pawn.

mfg, simon ... l

Date: 06 Aug 2008 23:48:12
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

King F-8 to E-7

ok , lets keep playing..

ivan - I.2

Date: 07 Aug 2008 00:24:34
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played N-g6+ (Nh4-g6+)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4 Be6
26. Nd6 Bxa2
27. Rd1 f4
28. h3 a5
29. Rd3 a4
30. Nh4 Ke7
31. Ng6+

Played knight to g6 giving Check.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 07 Aug 2008 22:26:37
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

On Aug 8, 8:01=A0am, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> E-7 to E-6 King move ..
>
> I made a new thread ..
> ivan - I.0 ..

Posted my Move f3 in the new Thread.

Bye
Sanny

Date: 07 Aug 2008 23:21:41
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

ok ..

Date: 07 Aug 2008 20:01:03
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

E-7 to E-6 King move ..

I made a new thread ..
ivan - I.0 ..

Date: 06 Aug 2008 08:43:31
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn A-5 to A-4 ....

Now Ivan - I.3

My webtv can not get on GC 's site ..My webtv can not do much it is very
simple ....

do you want to resign gc ? or play a few more moves ? i am open to
either.....

have another long night of work..yuck.....by by

Date: 06 Aug 2008 09:49:34
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played N-h4 (Nf3-h4)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4 Be6
26. Nd6 Bxa2
27. Rd1 f4
28. h3 a5
29. Rd3 a4
30. Nh4

Played knight to h4.

There are lots of pieces left and only 1 pawn down So we may continue
the game. Anything may happen.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Aug 2008 23:46:47
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played R-d3 (Rd1-d3)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1 b6
25. Nc4 Be6
26. Nd6 Bxa2
27. Rd1 f4
28. h3 a5
29. Rd3

This game is a complete win for IVAN.

Played h pawn. Visit Mall whenever you are free. I hope you can get
atleast 5-10 players to GetClub Chess.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Aug 2008 23:21:44
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn A-7 to A-5 ...

Now ivan - I.3

You have to remember Toga 2 is way more powerful than Ivan .....It can
see deeper in every move ..

I do not know those people personally at the Chess Mall ..It will be
awhile before i can go .
I used to work different hours and get off around II.00 AM so then i
just go there from work when i had the next day OFF ..It is so much
easier going there from my job than from my house ..
I mite not get there until Sept because my days off are so busy right
now..

Toga 2 vs Ivan in the future ?

Date: 05 Aug 2008 23:30:25
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (21:11) schrieb:

> Pawn F-5 to F-4
>
> Now ivan - I.2 ..

Still pessimistic, Toga II sees Ivan 2 pawns ahead.

According to the analysis this is a hard position for Getclub. 28 legal
moves, the three best moves from depth 15 and later are completely
different from the ones at depth 11. And the order of these 3 moves just
reversed at depth 17.

> GC will have a hard time stopping the A,B,C,D, pawns....

Yeah, If Ivan should be able to win this.

mfg, simon .... Rd3

Date: 05 Aug 2008 12:11:38
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn F-5 to F-4

Now ivan - I.2 ..

OK , i will write your link down and give it to them next time i go...I
get Tue and Sat off but i have been primering eve's of my house because
i had a new roof put on and i have a bunch of bare wood..I have 20
sections left , i just did 4 and ran out of primer ..So on Sat i will
buy more primer and start doing 5 sections every day i get off ..I just
do not want to waste my whole day off primering... So it mite be a
little while before i get to the Chess Mall as i call it...

GC will have a hard time stopping the A,B,C,D, pawns....

Date: 05 Aug 2008 08:59:44
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

On Aug 5, 8:35=A0pm, [email protected] (SAT W-7) wrote:
> Ivans move Bishop E-6 x A-2 ..Bishop takes pawn..
>
> Now ivan thinks it is winning 0.9 ..
>
> =A0 Now GC has to move the rook...
>
> The last two GC moves seem bad to me now even though i did not think
> they were bad at the time he moved ..
> =A0 I am not a strong player but i still like to play..There is a Mall
> about two cities away from me that has a Chess board in the floor and a
> clock =A0, you each get 30 minutes on your clock for a hour game if you
> use all the time..I like to go there some times when i have the time and
> a lot of players there are very good ..The chess pieces are made of wood
> and stand about =A0one to two feet tall ..+ there are benches around and
> other people watch ..If you win you can keep playing up to 3 games then
> you have to sit down..Winner picks the color too..I have lost my last 5
> games their..That bugs me ..ha ha....
> BUT I HAVE FUN..

Ask the players to play at GetClub.com Give them the link. May be some
have computer there. You too may play on their computer. Tell them
that they can play 150 Games for Free with all levels.

Chess Link: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Lets see if they are able to win the Beginner & Easy level or not.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 05 Aug 2008 08:35:39
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Ivans move Bishop E-6 x A-2 ..Bishop takes pawn..

Now ivan thinks it is winning 0.9 ..

Now GC has to move the rook...

The last two GC moves seem bad to me now even though i did not think
they were bad at the time he moved ..
I am not a strong player but i still like to play..There is a Mall
about two cities away from me that has a Chess board in the floor and a
clock , you each get 30 minutes on your clock for a hour game if you
use all the time..I like to go there some times when i have the time and
a lot of players there are very good ..The chess pieces are made of wood
and stand about one to two feet tall ..+ there are benches around and
other people watch ..If you win you can keep playing up to 3 games then
you have to sit down..Winner picks the color too..I have lost my last 5
games their..That bugs me ..ha ha....
BUT I HAVE FUN..
There is one guy i have not seen in a long time but i called him the
BOA CONSTRICTOR because of the way he moves his pawns .He rarely brings
them out two spots , just one forward and it seems like he just squeezes
you down ..I only played him one time and lost but i seen him play a
hand full of times and i never seen him lose.
Another guy i played told me he was a chess teacher , he said his elo
was around I900 ..
He took me to school ..ha ha......I let him get a knight down on me (
knight in my back ranks ) i was playing white ..and the teacher said ,
" never allow a horse in your house " that was his tip to me.....I seen
him play a hand full of games and he never lost ..I was hoping the Boa
Constrictor vs The Teacher would happen but i never did see them play
each other ..They mite have but i do not go there every day..I go there
about once every two months...Sometimes once every 3 months ..If i
lived by that place id be a regular ..The times i go there i see the
same people so they must live close by.

There is a few people i have played are about as strong as me , i have
played them a few games over the years , i won some and lost some....

Date: 05 Aug 2008 15:20:05
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (14:04) schrieb:

> Bishop C-8 to E-6 .....
>
> Ivan - 0.5 ..

That's interesting analysis. Every move other than Nd6 is a least than 2
pawn down since depth 15, and Nd6 itself is getting worse at every step
now.

> Simon , that is a powerful chess program , have you played it vs
> HIRCS ? Just wondering if you won or lost ...If i had a real computer
> that is the one id have.....

No, I don't own HIARCS. And I don't do much engine-engine matches, there
are people doing that more professionally. It's only interesting if
there is one engine involved, for which I was a (co-)developer.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 05 Aug 2008 05:04:13
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Bishop C-8 to E-6 .....

Ivan - 0.5 ..

Yes when ivan was out to a -2.5 i was thinking ivan will win too but GC
middle game is stronger than ivan's middle game that is the one thing i
have noticed about the games they have played vs each other.
To me it seems like you should improve GC 's end game a little more ..

Simon , that is a powerful chess program , have you played it vs
HIRCS ? Just wondering if you won or lost ...If i had a real computer
that is the one id have.....

Date: 05 Aug 2008 10:31:39
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (08:33) schrieb:

> Pawn B-7 to B-6 ..
>
> Simon are you using a computer to follow the game ? If yes what is the
> name of it and how strong ? If your just following it yourself you have
> made a few moves Ivan has made..

I use my Pentium 4 Windows XP computer with Arena (Chess GUI), and
different engines to analyze, currently it's Toga II.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 04 Aug 2008 23:33:47
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn B-7 to B-6 ..

Simon are you using a computer to follow the game ? If yes what is the
name of it and how strong ? If your just following it yourself you have
made a few moves Ivan has made..

Date: 04 Aug 2008 07:38:01
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played 3 Forced Moves after taking your Queen.

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7 KxQ
22. Bxf8 0-0

Queen took your Queen. So no queens left.

After your King take the Queen GetClub Played Bxf8 Taking your Rook

After your King take the Bishop GetClub plays 0-0 and does Chastling.

Theae all were Forced moves So I Played them all. If IVAN changes any
move let me know it. Else we are 3 moves ahead now.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 04 Aug 2008 22:45:13
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played R-b1 (Rf1-b1)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7 f5
21. Qxe7+ Kxe7
22. Bxf8+ Kxf8
23. 0-0 Bc3
24. Rb1

Played Rook to b1

(Now, Equal Game.)

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 04 Aug 2008 09:47:09
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

I am with you Sanny ...

Ok Ivans move is Bishop A-I to C-3 ...

This will be a interesting end game , GC's two Knight power pieces vs
Ivans two bishop power pieces ..+ we each have a rook ..

we each have 5 pawns

All 3 of my pieces have long range power vs your one rook that has
long range power .
Your two knights can jump my pieces and get behind them easy so i am not
sure who will win this game ..

Date: 03 Aug 2008 23:32:09
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Qxh7 (Qg7xh7)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6 Bxb2
14. Nbd2 Bxa1
15. dxe4 d4
16. Bg5 Qb6
17. Qg7 Rf8
18. Bh6 Qd6
19. e5 Qe7
20. Qxh7

Queen took your h7 pawn.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 03 Aug 2008 22:33:19
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Ivans move is Queen D-6 to E-7 ...

Your GC move is pawn E-4 to E-5 ..You put down D-4 to D-5 ...

Now GC has fought all the way back to a + I.3 advantage ...

I am not sure the bishop can get to G-7 ..If it would have moved the
D-pawn forward then queen takes bishop ...I was thinking bishop to C-3
to pin the knight .....But now ivan has to save the queen .....If i was
ivan id try and get the white bishop to e-6 and castle...

what about this end game GC queen takes rook , queen takes queen ,
bishop takes queen , king takes bishop ....Then who will win ? i have no
idea....
i would say GC and Ivan are even and they usually have pretty excting
games.....

Date: 03 Aug 2008 23:29:36
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (16:16) schrieb:

> GC has had ivan on the run , and bringing down his advantage from
> around 2.5 to .0.3 now ..

Yeah, the last few of both sides are very strange at least.

> Ivan need to try and castle or get the bishop to C-3..

Or maybe Ivan should get its bishop to g7.

mfg, simon .... Nxe4

Date: 03 Aug 2008 07:16:13
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Queen B-6 to D-6

GC is still on the come back trail now Ivan -0.3

Now you see why i lose a lot of games to Ivan i would have taken that
knight early in the game.

GC has had ivan on the run , and bringing down his advantage from
around 2.5 to .0.3 now ..

Ivan need to try and castle or get the bishop to C-3..

Date: 02 Aug 2008 23:29:17
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

H-8 to F-8 rook....

GC keeps fighting back , now Ivan - 0.6....

i hope ivan can castle soon on the other side.

Date: 03 Aug 2008 04:20:23
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (20:16) schrieb:

> queen D-8 to B-6
> ...........................................................................
> queen attacking queen , ivan want to open his rook up..

What?

Now your center pawn are both gone. Qd3 seems much better.

> GC is fighting back now Ivan - I.4 ..

2.55 for Ivan.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 03 Aug 2008 11:06:36
From: Simon Krahnke
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

* SAT W-7 <[email protected] > (07:42) schrieb:

> Play the game out from move number one and you will see when he has a
> chance to take the knight with his queen for free...GC did not take it.

No, it couldn't. See Peter Osterlunds excellent explanation why.

> Our computers are not strong in the chess computer world ..But in the
> human world they are strong..

Well, too strong for you and me, but also too strong for my lame chess engine.

> Glad your following the game i will go look at the sites you posted
> if my webtv can get there.

If I remember right, you had some difficulties with understanding
algebraic notation, so it could be of some use for you, too.

> I have never in my life recorded one of my games and out of all the
> games i have ever played it would be cool if i had them BUT if i could
> only pick one game it would be the only game i beat Ivan at , on this
> level...I have won one game and lost 400 + games at this level i am
> playing ivan at now ..

Back in the 80s, when I had some interest in playing chess, I played my
father's simple Mephisto chess computer. I managed to win to win against
its still limited but not easiest level once. I put that down on paper.
I still have it, and now I have as an PGN file on my computer, too.

I once analyzed it with a descent engine, quite disillusioning.

> I know ivans weakness now since i have played against other computers
> BUT i am not a strong enough player to exploit ivans weakness ..

I was never really good at chess, and now I probably suck, but I lost
interest in playing chess myself. I believe that's what computers are for.

mfg, simon .... l

Date: 02 Aug 2008 22:42:19
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Play the game out from move number one and you will see when he has a
chance to take the knight with his queen for free...GC did not take it
.Our computers are not strong in the chess computer world ..But in the
human world they are strong..

Glad your following the game i will go look at the sites you posted
if my webtv can get there.

Sanny makes the notations ..

I have never in my life recorded one of my games and out of all the
games i have ever played it would be cool if i had them BUT if i could
only pick one game it would be the only game i beat Ivan at , on this
level...I have won one game and lost 400 + games at this level i am
playing ivan at now ..

I know ivans weakness now since i have played against other computers
BUT i am not a strong enough player to exploit ivans weakness ..

Date: 03 Aug 2008 09:32:03
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

[email protected] (SAT W-7) writes:

> Play the game out from move number one and you will see when he has a
> chance to take the knight with his queen for free...GC did not take it
> .Our computers are not strong in the chess computer world ..But in the
> human world they are strong..

After 8... Nxe4, getclub could have played 9. Qxe4. However, even
getclub was strong enough to see that taking the knight would have
been a mistake. After 9. Qxe4 ivan could have responeded 9... d5. Now
getclub would have to move the queen, for example 10. Qe5, and then
Ivan could have responded 10... Nxc2+, forking the king and rook.

It looks like both Ivan and getclub were strong enough to see that
taking the knight was bad. However, getclub saw it too late. It
shouldn't have played 8. Nf3 and let Ivan win a pawn.

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 02 Aug 2008 11:16:23
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

queen D-8 to B-6
...........................................................................
queen attacking queen , ivan want to open his rook up..

GC is fighting back now Ivan - I.4 ..

Date: 02 Aug 2008 08:31:57
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn D-5 to D-4

ivan - 2.8

Queen takes E-4 Knight protects the C-2 Pawn.
This Knight he just took has been there for awhile ..

Date: 02 Aug 2008 02:51:57
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Bishop B-2 x A- I ..Bishop takes rook..

Ivan - 2.5

Ivan is playing a lot better in this game , BUT GC should have had a
free knight ..

Date: 02 Aug 2008 12:54:02
From: Peter Osterlund
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

[email protected] (SAT W-7) writes:

> Bishop B-2 x A- I ..Bishop takes rook..
>
> Ivan - 2.5
>
> Ivan is playing a lot better in this game , BUT GC should have had a
> free knight ..

No it shouldn't. Taking the knight would have been a mistake because
of d5 followed by Nxc2+.

--
Peter Osterlund - [email protected]
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340

Date: 31 Jul 2008 22:27:29
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Played Q-h6 (Qg7-h6)

GetClub-Easy IVAN -60sec
White Black

1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. Qxd4 Nc6
4. Qd5 Nf6
5. Qd3 Bc5
6. Be3 Nb4
7. Qc4 Be7
8. Nf3 Nxe4
9. Bd3 d5
10. Qd4 Nxd3+
11. cxd3 c5
12. Qxg7 Bf6
13. Qh6

Saved its Queen to h6.

If we loose thread we can restart a new thread with list of moves.
Play whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 31 Jul 2008 20:28:22
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Bishop E-7 to F-6 ..attacking queen and your rook.

Your queen move was to G-7 ...

Ivan - 2.3

Date: 30 Jul 2008 22:57:17
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn C-7 to C-5
attacking queen

Date: 30 Jul 2008 21:09:40
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

B-4 x D-3 .. check

Knight takes bishop

ivan - I.6

Date: 30 Jul 2008 08:21:43
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Pawn D-7 to D-5 ...

That is the flaw in ivans program , if you temp him with a pawn he mite
not see the piece that is covering it...

Yes GC should have took the knight with the queen and the queen covers
the C-2 pawn so GC should be a knight up now ...

will move when i get home from work....

ivan - I.8

Date: 29 Jul 2008 23:24:00
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

F-6 x E-4 Knight takes pawn ..

Ivan - I.7 now

I need to study this because i do not see why ivan made that move..

Looks like it is throwing away a knight ...

To me it looks like a bad move ..How about you ?

Date: 29 Jul 2008 09:00:59
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Bishop C-5 to E-7

Now GC + 0.I

Ivan is not taking advantage of gc moving it's queen all over the
place...

Date: 28 Jul 2008 23:43:10
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

C-6 to B-4 knight

ivan -0.3

Date: 28 Jul 2008 08:51:00
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Bishop F-8 to C-5

Ivan - 0.2

still a even game ..

i have to work longer today so my move will be later tonight....

Date: 27 Jul 2008 23:02:27
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Knight G-8 to F-6

attacking the queen

Date: 27 Jul 2008 08:42:02
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

Knight B-8 to C-6 ..

Knight attacking queen....

ivan - 0.3.....

This is my morning move and i will check when i get home from work
tonight ....

Ivan is not letting GC grab the center like it normally does ..

Date: 26 Jul 2008 09:11:35
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

E-5 x D-4 , pawn takes pawn

First blood ..

ivan -0.3 ..

Date: 26 Jul 2008 06:51:34
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: GC 's move e4

E-7 to E-5 ......

Remember if you do not see a move from me in two days you know
something is wrong so just e mail me personally ..

Sat morn now 6.52 AM ..I just woke up but i mite go back to sleep.

I will move morning and night , before and after work.....

This should be a good game , you have improved GC ...