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Date: 21 Aug 2007 13:03:08
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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I just upgraded my CPU to a Core2 Duo Q6600 (quad 2.4GHz). I am not
overclocking [yet] or doing anything fancy. If I try and run analysis using
the latest Rybka (2.3.2a? ... I am not local to the machine to verify at the
moment) the Fritz UI will go "not responding" in pretty short order. I had
trouble in the past with my E6600 as well, but it wasn't as problematic as
now. Oddly, running an engine match on Playchess from the Fritz UI works
fine.
Does anybody else see this? Is this just another bug with Fritz UI and UCI
engines? I have tried using ChessDB (Scid) for analysis, but it is very
unintuitive and not all that configurable.
Thanks for comments on experience and solutions.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 13:03:03
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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Date: 21 Aug 2007 15:48:06
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected] > wrote:
> I just upgraded my CPU to a Core2 Duo Q6600 (quad 2.4GHz). I am not
> overclocking [yet] or doing anything fancy. If I try and run
> analysis using the latest Rybka (2.3.2a? ... I am not local to the
> machine to verify at the moment) the Fritz UI will go "not
> responding" in pretty short order. I had trouble in the past with
> my E6600 as well, but it wasn't as problematic as now. Oddly,
> running an engine match on Playchess from the Fritz UI works fine.
I have vague memories of Rybka being locked to the hardware you first
installed it on, but with the ability to re-key it when you upgrade.
On the other hand, I can see nothing about this at rybkachess.com so
maybe I've misremembered?
Dave.
--
David Richerby Psychotic Composer (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a pupil of Beethoven but it wants to
kill you!
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 20:43:15
From: M L
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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David Richerby wrote:
> I have vague memories of Rybka being locked to the hardware you first
> installed it on, but with the ability to re-key it when you upgrade.
> On the other hand, I can see nothing about this at rybkachess.com so
> maybe I've misremembered?
I think you did misremember.
Older Fruit commercial version (2.2; now 2.3.1 has just been released
for free) and Loop have such a hardware-checking protection.
Rybka has no copy protection at all
c Lacrosse
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Date: 03 Sep 2007 11:51:09
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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M L <[email protected] > wrote:
> David Richerby wrote:
>> I have vague memories of Rybka being locked to the hardware you first
>> installed it on, but with the ability to re-key it when you upgrade.
>> On the other hand, I can see nothing about this at rybkachess.com so
>> maybe I've misremembered?
>
> I think you did misremember.
Thanks, c -- it sounds like I was confusing Fruit and Rybka.
Dave.
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David Richerby Lead Clock (TM): it's like a clock
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ that weighs a ton!
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Date: 21 Aug 2007 15:00:51
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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David Richerby <[email protected] > wrote:
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> I have vague memories of Rybka being locked to the hardware you first
> installed it on, but with the ability to re-key it when you upgrade.
> On the other hand, I can see nothing about this at rybkachess.com so
> maybe I've misremembered?
>
There were no alterations to the original file for it to even know. I
downloaded it and saved it on CD.
As I indicated, it works fine when used in engine competitions at
Playchess.com. It just seems to fail in analysis or when playing a game
against it [or infinite analysis]. I will happily play Fritz, but for
analysis, I like Rybka. BTW ... it is ChessProgram8.exe that actually locks
up, not Rybka. ChessProgram8.exe is part of the FritzUI.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 25 Aug 2007 09:06:11
From: JohnnyT
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> David Richerby <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have vague memories of Rybka being locked to the hardware you first
>> installed it on, but with the ability to re-key it when you upgrade.
>> On the other hand, I can see nothing about this at rybkachess.com so
>> maybe I've misremembered?
>>
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> There were no alterations to the original file for it to even know. I
> downloaded it and saved it on CD.
>
> As I indicated, it works fine when used in engine competitions at
> Playchess.com. It just seems to fail in analysis or when playing a game
> against it [or infinite analysis]. I will happily play Fritz, but for
> analysis, I like Rybka. BTW ... it is ChessProgram8.exe that actually locks
> up, not Rybka. ChessProgram8.exe is part of the FritzUI.
>
Double check for updates to your program, or change UI's to a more
updated one than Fritz 8. Fritz 9 works pretty well, and it's 20 bucks
on Amazon. Or try Arena it's free. Or look hard for Fritz 8 updates.
But I suspect it is because the whole UCI thing was just not that mature
under fritz 8.
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 13:27:03
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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JohnnyT <[email protected] > wrote:
> Double check for updates to your program, or change UI's to a more
> updated one than Fritz 8. Fritz 9 works pretty well, and it's 20 bucks
> on Amazon. Or try Arena it's free. Or look hard for Fritz 8 updates.
> But I suspect it is because the whole UCI thing was just not that mature
> under fritz 8.
I use the Fritz 10 interface and it pulled down a nice sized update when I
logged into Playchess. I am aware that updates come down based upon what your
active engine is, so I logged in with Fritz as the active engine to get
updates.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 22:51:16
From: JohnnyT
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> JohnnyT <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Double check for updates to your program, or change UI's to a more
>> updated one than Fritz 8. Fritz 9 works pretty well, and it's 20 bucks
>> on Amazon. Or try Arena it's free. Or look hard for Fritz 8 updates.
>> But I suspect it is because the whole UCI thing was just not that mature
>> under fritz 8.
>
> I use the Fritz 10 interface and it pulled down a nice sized update when I
> logged into Playchess. I am aware that updates come down based upon what your
> active engine is, so I logged in with Fritz as the active engine to get
> updates.
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if you double check your post it says chessprogram8.exe
That is fritz 8 not 10.
Fritz 10, is predictably chessprogram10.exe
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Date: 04 Sep 2007 12:28:09
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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JohnnyT <[email protected] > wrote:
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>> I use the Fritz 10 interface and it pulled down a nice sized update when I
>> logged into Playchess. I am aware that updates come down based upon what your
>> active engine is, so I logged in with Fritz as the active engine to get
>> updates.
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> if you double check your post it says chessprogram8.exe
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> That is fritz 8 not 10.
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> Fritz 10, is predictably chessprogram10.exe
Yes, you are correct [I think I corrected myself elsewhere]. Just faulty
memory or tired typing.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 21 Aug 2007 12:12:45
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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I am not sure how to fix your problem since i have a webtv .
Can you play Fritz vs Rybka at one minute per move and see who wins
and post the game ?
id like to see that....Play two games so each can be black..
thank you
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Date: 23 Aug 2007 08:45:55
From: Henri Arsenault
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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I have installed Rybka on my quad processor Mac running Fritz 9 under
Windows under Bootcamp and it has no lockup problems. Sound to me like
Fritz might be running out of memory (I have 4 Gb). If you are low on
memory, try reducing the hash size.
As for single-processor Fritz9 vs multi-processor Rybka, Rybka won 8-2-0
on my 3 Ghz quad computer, but it was 1-8-1 on my 1.8 GHz duo.
Henri
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Date: 23 Aug 2007 13:27:27
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fritz UI "Not responding" with Rybka
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Henri Arsenault <[email protected] > wrote:
> I have installed Rybka on my quad processor Mac running Fritz 9 under
> Windows under Bootcamp and it has no lockup problems. Sound to me like
> Fritz might be running out of memory (I have 4 Gb). If you are low on
> memory, try reducing the hash size.
>
I have 4GB of DDR2-800 4-4-4-12. I run the 64-bit version of Rybka(mp) in the
Fritz 10 UI (not deep fritz). Vista 64-bit Ultimate. I get the same lockup
problems with Windows XP 64-bit (professional). It is worth mentioning that
it is the Fritz UI that is freezing (ChessProgram8.exe or somesuch) and not
Rybka.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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