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Date: 31 May 2008 09:32:21
From: samsloan
Subject: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is right and Ed Trice is a fraud. On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: The Gothic Chess Federation re: Ed Labate http://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html Labate Chess re: Ed Trice http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a hoax ... US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery by GM Larry Evans February 1, 2008 http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax by GM Larry Evans April 10, 2008 http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal complaint with the FBI) ... Chess Ninja Daily Dirt Fischer Book http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games Google Groups http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread/thread/18cd6eed1a0b0851/50d6ec973d0f119f?lnk=raot#50d6ec973d0f119f Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel lawsuit is filed ... The Gothic Chess Forum re: Ed Labate page 1 http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b7a8c0b046a7c6613362bcf&showtopic=422&st=0 page 2 http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aacc5ba3afae879d554dedc6&showtopic=422&st=15
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Date: 14 Sep 2008 12:32:18
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: CJA, decline and de Nile
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Can't we get this thread back to its original topic?? On Jul 17, 7:23=A0am, Edward Labate <[email protected] > wrote: > Ed Trice, you can=92t even see how foolish you look. =A0You claim 4000+ > player tournaments, yet you can=92t even show an organized event with > six boards in an organized tournament setting. =A0Where are the clocks, > where are the scoresheets? =A0Where are the rows and rows and rows of > tables, chairs and actual games in progress???? > You=92re in one of the picture, another one of your pictures has kids on > the floor playing a chess variant, and another picture is clearly a > skittles room where people are just playing it for fun. =A0 =A0Here=92s s= ome > picture of how actual attended events look like, not imaginary: > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Chess_tourna... > > http://www.boardlink.bz/Obj/B000309001/Images/AsianYouthInd0China.JPG > > http://www.greenvillechessclub.org/images/Tournament%20room%20of%20at... > > http://hwebbjr.typepad.com/openloops/DSCF0490_small.jpg > > http://www.boardlink.bz/Obj/B000309001/Images/NR2005hallview.JPG > > Additionally, where=92s the schedule for 2008 tournaments??? =A0When is > the NEXT gothic chess tournament??? > > =93On Jul 16, 9:19 am, Ed Trice <[email protected]: > Links to some tournaments that people say never happened > =93The 2002 college scholarship event was just for 1 year's tuition. We > had 895 participants. Here=92s a panoramic view of this event.=94http://w= ww.gothicchess.com/tournaments/sn3. > > =93In 2003 we had 1640. =A0Here=92s a panoramic view of this event:=94htt= p://www.gothicchess.com/tournaments/conor. > > =93In 2004, over 2000. Here=92s a panoramic view of this event.=94http://= www.gothicchess.com/tournaments/supernats. > > In 2005 we offered 2 years' tuition, and it was a fiasco, with over > 4000 registrations, maybe 60% of the registrations coming within 1 > month of the event, and people showing up "at the door" even though > radio ads were mentioning the tournament was, in fact, closed. =A0Here=92= s > a panoramic view of this event.=94http://www.gothicchess.com/tournaments/= dave_bryan.http://www.gothicchess.com/tournaments/ed_dave. > > I suppose you will all claim they are CGI, especially > Labate, you're a lunatic. You are insane. There, save that. Ed Trice=94 > > Yep, you showed me Ed Trice!! =A0I=92m the LOONEY!!
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Date: 01 Aug 2008 04:03:32
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 18, 8:10=A0am, SBD <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jun 17, 3:35 pm, Edward Labate <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Rob <[email protected]> write: > > > "Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any > > plans for it?" > > > Yeah...put it up on ebay with an opening bid of 1 cent, and a buy-it- > > now of 2 cents... and hope I don't get sued for overstating it's > > value!!! > > > Best Wishes, > > Edward Labate > > Very nice. Or perhaps sell it for a bit more, and make a fitting > memorium to Capa with the cash - whose idea was ripped off anyway. A very good suggestion
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Date: 18 Jun 2008 06:13:58
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 18, 5:46 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Have you looked at the Wikipedia biography of Ed Trice? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Trice > > It is filled with claims that are almost certainly not true and almost > all of it was probably written by fake personalities created by Ed > Trice. > > Sam Sloan I don't know, Sam, it doesn't look that inaccurate. Not that that should be seen as support for Trice....
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Date: 18 Jun 2008 06:10:44
From: SBD
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 17, 3:35 pm, Edward Labate <[email protected] > wrote: > Rob <[email protected]> write: > > "Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any > plans for it?" > > Yeah...put it up on ebay with an opening bid of 1 cent, and a buy-it- > now of 2 cents... and hope I don't get sued for overstating it's > value!!! > > Best Wishes, > Edward Labate Very nice. Or perhaps sell it for a bit more, and make a fitting memorium to Capa with the cash - whose idea was ripped off anyway.
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Date: 18 Jun 2008 03:46:11
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Have you looked at the Wikipedia biography of Ed Trice? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Trice It is filled with claims that are almost certainly not true and almost all of it was probably written by fake personalities created by Ed Trice. Sam Sloan
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Date: 17 Jun 2008 19:37:32
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 17, 9:27 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jun 17, 4:13 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > On Jun 17, 9:35 pm, Edward Labate <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Rob <[email protected]> write: > > > > "Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any > > > plans for it?" > > > > Yeah...put it up on ebay with an opening bid of 1 cent, and a buy-it- > > > now of 2 cents... and hope I don't get sued for overstating it's > > > value!!! > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Edward Labate > > > The problem is Trice doesn't own the patent any more, he lost it by > > not paying the maintenance fees which were due three years after he > > was first awarded the patent:http://www.latepatents.net/6481716.htm > > > I believe Trice is stony broke. If he had any money he wouldn't be > > trying to rip off a complete stranger for $6000. The risk involved was > > enormous and he could still end up going to prison for it (fingers > > crossed). > > > Jon D'Souza-Eva > > Readhttp://www.labatechess.com/61_games.htmlforthe full sordid > > story of "My 61 Memorable Games" > > Can the patent be claimed by someone else if the fees are paid? If the patent truely has expired... the it's open for exploitation: http://www.inc.com/articles/2000/03/18174.html Patent expired. After the patent expires, the patent owner has no further rights, although infringement suits can still be brought for any infringement that occurred during the patent's in-force period as long as the suit is filed within the time required by law. An expired patent remains a valid "prior-art reference" forever.
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Date: 17 Jun 2008 19:27:53
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 17, 4:13 pm, [email protected] wrote: > On Jun 17, 9:35 pm, Edward Labate <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Rob <[email protected]> write: > > > "Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any > > plans for it?" > > > Yeah...put it up on ebay with an opening bid of 1 cent, and a buy-it- > > now of 2 cents... and hope I don't get sued for overstating it's > > value!!! > > > Best Wishes, > > Edward Labate > > The problem is Trice doesn't own the patent any more, he lost it by > not paying the maintenance fees which were due three years after he > was first awarded the patent:http://www.latepatents.net/6481716.htm > > I believe Trice is stony broke. If he had any money he wouldn't be > trying to rip off a complete stranger for $6000. The risk involved was > enormous and he could still end up going to prison for it (fingers > crossed). > > Jon D'Souza-Eva > Readhttp://www.labatechess.com/61_games.htmlfor the full sordid > story of "My 61 Memorable Games" Can the patent be claimed by someone else if the fees are paid?
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Date: 17 Jun 2008 14:13:55
From:
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 17, 9:35 pm, Edward Labate <[email protected] > wrote: > Rob <[email protected]> write: > > "Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any > plans for it?" > > Yeah...put it up on ebay with an opening bid of 1 cent, and a buy-it- > now of 2 cents... and hope I don't get sued for overstating it's > value!!! > > Best Wishes, > Edward Labate The problem is Trice doesn't own the patent any more, he lost it by not paying the maintenance fees which were due three years after he was first awarded the patent: http://www.latepatents.net/6481716.htm I believe Trice is stony broke. If he had any money he wouldn't be trying to rip off a complete stranger for $6000. The risk involved was enormous and he could still end up going to prison for it (fingers crossed). Jon D'Souza-Eva Read http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html for the full sordid story of "My 61 Memorable Games"
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Date: 17 Jun 2008 13:35:37
From: Edward Labate
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Rob <[email protected] > write: "Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any plans for it?" Yeah...put it up on ebay with an opening bid of 1 cent, and a buy-it- now of 2 cents... and hope I don't get sued for overstating it's value!!! Best Wishes, Edward Labate
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Date: 17 Jun 2008 12:28:37
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 17, 2:09=A0pm, Edward Labate <[email protected] > wrote: > On May 8th, I, Edward Labate, through my attorney Alfred T. Newell, > mailed Ed Trice/Gothic Chess the following 'Demand For Retraction', > > ALFRED T. NEWELL, IV > ATTORNEY AT LAW > P. O. =A0Box 101432 > BIRMINGHAM, AL 35210-6432 > PHONE (205) 956-8281 > FAX (205) 951-2855 > > NOTICE OF DEMAND FOR RETRACTION > > TO: =A0 =A0 =A0ED TRICE > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 GOTHIC CHESS ASSOCIATION > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1735 MARKET STREET SUITE A-456 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 PHILADELPHIA, PA 19103 > > DEAR ED TRICE: > > PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THE UNDERSIGNED REPRESENTS EDWARD LABATE. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ON THE 1st DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2008 THROUGH THE 7TH D= AY OF > MAY, 2008 YOU PUBLISHED FALSE AND DEFAMATORY REMARKS BY PUBLISHING > ARTICLES, LETTERS, EMAILS, OR MATTER, COPIES OF WHICH ARE ATTACHED > HERETO REGARDING EDWARD LABATE; > > 1] IN THAT YOU SAID =93Ed Labate =3D "Helgi" from "My 61 Memorable Games= =94, > NOW ESTABLISHED AS A BOOK PUBLISHING HOAX; > > 2] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF SELLING A FRAUDULENT BOBBY FISCHER > AUTOGRAPHED BOOK, MY 60 MEMORABLE GAMES; > > 3] ALSO =A0ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF BEING THE PERPATRATOR OF THE =91My 61 > Memorable Games=92 HOAX TO THE POINT OF ACTUALLY PRINTING A VERY LARGE > QUANTITY OF SAID BOOKS AND THEN SHIPPING THEM TO EUROPE; > > 4] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF POSTING FRAUDLENT CORRESPONDENCE WITH > YOU ON HIS WEBSITE; > > 5] ALSO STATED YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF "...an AOL representative's > letter stating they were spoofed, fabricated entirely by Labate." > > 6] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF FABRICATING AND 'DOCTORING' > CORRESPONDENCE FROM OTHER CONTACTS; > > 7] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF FABRICATING EMAILS WITH CATHY PURDY > OF BOOKMASTERS, YOUR CONTACT PERSON WHEN YOU YOURSELF INQUIRED ABOUT > PRINTING =91My 61 Memorable Games=92 IN THE SUMMER OF 2007. > > 8] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF FABRICATING YOUR ATTEMPTS TO PROCURE > INVESTORS FOR YOUR UNATHORIZED PRINTING OF =91My 61 Memorable Games=92, > INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO FRANK CAMARATTA, BRUCE TOWELL, ETC. > > 9] ALSO STATED YOU SUCCESSFULLY HAD THE LIMESTONE COUNTY SHERIFF VISIT > EDWARD LABATE ON OR ABOUT JAN. 17, 2008, AT HIS 'RESIDENCE' WHEREIN HE > HAD NOT RESIDED SINCE JUNE 2007; > > 10] ALSO YOU POSTED ON CHESSGAMES.COM; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Labate, you're the liar who fabricated EVERYTHING on that= > page. And since you don't know what "per se defamation" is, you've > been invited to Philadelphia to learn all about it. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 You claim the sheriff never visited your house, yet why th= en, > did you remove the slander from your eBay auction one day later? I > called and spoke with "Pat" (who answers their phone) many times. I > called the local police on you because HARASSMENT is the first item > that needs filing before civil proceedings commence. And the local > police told me it was a Limestone County issue, since the mudhole you > live in does not dispatch officers to your location. That's already on > the ledger, first thing's first. > =A0 =A0 =A0 I've already have had an arbitration board convene to assess > damages at $1000 per day for each day you have that b.s. on your page. > I've asked you to remove it, you've refused (God knows what you have > to gain by it) so now each day from the first day of contact will be > money in my pocket. I've already negotiated 50 cents on the dollar to > a firm that buys civil judgments. Let's see where you'll move to next, > since you have gone bankrupt in California." > > SAID REMARKS, ARTICLES, LETTERS OR EMAILS WERE PUBLISHED TO THE > GENERAL PUBLIC AND STILL REMAIN POSTED TO THIS DAY UNDER your name of > Ed Trice, as well as your numerous aliases, including but not limited > to, 'James', 'Mark', 'Paul Mugno', 'Blood of Bulls', 'ChessV'; 'Alan > McCormick', 'GothicChessInventor'; 'AverageWoodpusher'; > > to numerous websites but not limited to; chessgames.com; > chessninja.com; NY Times Daily Blog; ChessVibes.com; uschess.org; > redhotpawn.com, polgarchess.com; GothicChess.com; etc.; > > to NUMEROUS CONTACTS BUT NOT LIMITED TO, FRANK CAMARATTA, House of > Staunton; =A0DAN HEISMAN, Chess Master, Teacher, and Chess Columnist; > CATHY PURDY, Printer/Bookmasters; Ed Hall, US Chess Executive > Director, etc. > > PURSUANT TO CODE OF ALABAMA, 1975, 6-5-186, I HEREBY DEMAND THAT YOU > PUBLISH A FULL AND FAIR RETRACTION OF SUCH ACCUSATIONS IN AN EQUALLY > PUBLIC AND PROMINENT PLACE AND MANNER WITHIN FIVE (5) DAYS OF YOUR > RECEIPT OF THIS LETTER. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 DATED THIS 7TH DAY OF MAY, 2008. > > SINCERELY YOURS, > > _______________________________________ > > ALFRED T. NEWELL, IV > ATTORNEY AT LAW > > which was received and signed for on May 12, 2008. =A0Instead of Ed > Trice retracting all his lies, he continues to provide more counts for > my lawsuit. > > Therefore, we have no choice and are proceeding with a Multi-Million > Lawsuit against Ed Trice for libel/defamation. =A0As anyone who has been > involved in a lawsuit know, the first thing each side files are > discoveries and requests for depositions. =A0This is where the 'fun' now > starts. =A0Everything you say in these are considered 'under oath' and > false statement are criminal acts, punishable by fines and jail time. > For example Ed Trice claims that I had 'My 61 Memorable Games' > printed. =A0Our very first question will be for Ed Trice to provide > proof of this statement. =A0Now let's see whose story changes, and whose > story remains the same!! > > Additionally, anyone receiving this notice and publishes Ed Trice's > lies, will also be held accountable. =A0I am sick and tired of these > last six months having to deal with this scumbag Trice, who can't seem > to read a damn thing presented to him. =A0 I have never, ever dealt with > such a low life in my 53 years. =A0And yes, some of you will be getting > letters as to your communication with Ed Trice. =A0I'm sorry, but I > didn't bring this on, Ed Trice did. > > I will admit it, I have only one goal: > > To destroy Ed Trice for lying about me, and for taking advantage of a > dying Bobby Fischer!! =A0Bobby Fischer is on his deathbed, and Ed Trice > is claiming he's got Fischer's permission to reprint My 61 Memorable > Games. =A0FOLKS: =A0Is there a lower LOWLIFE in the chess community than > Ed Trice??? > > Edward Labate > > May 23, 2008 Do you have evidence he was served? Looks as if you may become the owner of the Gothic Chess patent. Any plans for it?
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Date: 17 Jun 2008 12:09:39
From: Edward Labate
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On May 8th, I, Edward Labate, through my attorney Alfred T. Newell, mailed Ed Trice/Gothic Chess the following 'Demand For Retraction', ALFRED T. NEWELL, IV ATTORNEY AT LAW P. O. Box 101432 BIRMINGHAM, AL 35210-6432 PHONE (205) 956-8281 FAX (205) 951-2855 NOTICE OF DEMAND FOR RETRACTION TO: ED TRICE GOTHIC CHESS ASSOCIATION 1735 MARKET STREET SUITE A-456 PHILADELPHIA, PA 19103 DEAR ED TRICE: PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THE UNDERSIGNED REPRESENTS EDWARD LABATE. ON THE 1st DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2008 THROUGH THE 7TH DAY OF MAY, 2008 YOU PUBLISHED FALSE AND DEFAMATORY REMARKS BY PUBLISHING ARTICLES, LETTERS, EMAILS, OR MATTER, COPIES OF WHICH ARE ATTACHED HERETO REGARDING EDWARD LABATE; 1] IN THAT YOU SAID =93Ed Labate =3D "Helgi" from "My 61 Memorable Games=94,= NOW ESTABLISHED AS A BOOK PUBLISHING HOAX; 2] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF SELLING A FRAUDULENT BOBBY FISCHER AUTOGRAPHED BOOK, MY 60 MEMORABLE GAMES; 3] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF BEING THE PERPATRATOR OF THE =91My 61 Memorable Games=92 HOAX TO THE POINT OF ACTUALLY PRINTING A VERY LARGE QUANTITY OF SAID BOOKS AND THEN SHIPPING THEM TO EUROPE; 4] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF POSTING FRAUDLENT CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU ON HIS WEBSITE; 5] ALSO STATED YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF "...an AOL representative's letter stating they were spoofed, fabricated entirely by Labate." 6] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF FABRICATING AND 'DOCTORING' CORRESPONDENCE FROM OTHER CONTACTS; 7] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF FABRICATING EMAILS WITH CATHY PURDY OF BOOKMASTERS, YOUR CONTACT PERSON WHEN YOU YOURSELF INQUIRED ABOUT PRINTING =91My 61 Memorable Games=92 IN THE SUMMER OF 2007. 8] ALSO ACCUSED EDWARD LABATE OF FABRICATING YOUR ATTEMPTS TO PROCURE INVESTORS FOR YOUR UNATHORIZED PRINTING OF =91My 61 Memorable Games=92, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO FRANK CAMARATTA, BRUCE TOWELL, ETC. 9] ALSO STATED YOU SUCCESSFULLY HAD THE LIMESTONE COUNTY SHERIFF VISIT EDWARD LABATE ON OR ABOUT JAN. 17, 2008, AT HIS 'RESIDENCE' WHEREIN HE HAD NOT RESIDED SINCE JUNE 2007; 10] ALSO YOU POSTED ON CHESSGAMES.COM; "Labate, you're the liar who fabricated EVERYTHING on that page. And since you don't know what "per se defamation" is, you've been invited to Philadelphia to learn all about it. You claim the sheriff never visited your house, yet why then, did you remove the slander from your eBay auction one day later? I called and spoke with "Pat" (who answers their phone) many times. I called the local police on you because HARASSMENT is the first item that needs filing before civil proceedings commence. And the local police told me it was a Limestone County issue, since the mudhole you live in does not dispatch officers to your location. That's already on the ledger, first thing's first. I've already have had an arbitration board convene to assess damages at $1000 per day for each day you have that b.s. on your page. I've asked you to remove it, you've refused (God knows what you have to gain by it) so now each day from the first day of contact will be money in my pocket. I've already negotiated 50 cents on the dollar to a firm that buys civil judgments. Let's see where you'll move to next, since you have gone bankrupt in California." SAID REMARKS, ARTICLES, LETTERS OR EMAILS WERE PUBLISHED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND STILL REMAIN POSTED TO THIS DAY UNDER your name of Ed Trice, as well as your numerous aliases, including but not limited to, 'James', 'Mark', 'Paul Mugno', 'Blood of Bulls', 'ChessV'; 'Alan McCormick', 'GothicChessInventor'; 'AverageWoodpusher'; to numerous websites but not limited to; chessgames.com; chessninja.com; NY Times Daily Blog; ChessVibes.com; uschess.org; redhotpawn.com, polgarchess.com; GothicChess.com; etc.; to NUMEROUS CONTACTS BUT NOT LIMITED TO, FRANK CAMARATTA, House of Staunton; DAN HEISMAN, Chess Master, Teacher, and Chess Columnist; CATHY PURDY, Printer/Bookmasters; Ed Hall, US Chess Executive Director, etc. PURSUANT TO CODE OF ALABAMA, 1975, 6-5-186, I HEREBY DEMAND THAT YOU PUBLISH A FULL AND FAIR RETRACTION OF SUCH ACCUSATIONS IN AN EQUALLY PUBLIC AND PROMINENT PLACE AND MANNER WITHIN FIVE (5) DAYS OF YOUR RECEIPT OF THIS LETTER. DATED THIS 7TH DAY OF MAY, 2008. SINCERELY YOURS, _______________________________________ ALFRED T. NEWELL, IV ATTORNEY AT LAW which was received and signed for on May 12, 2008. Instead of Ed Trice retracting all his lies, he continues to provide more counts for my lawsuit. Therefore, we have no choice and are proceeding with a Multi-Million Lawsuit against Ed Trice for libel/defamation. As anyone who has been involved in a lawsuit know, the first thing each side files are discoveries and requests for depositions. This is where the 'fun' now starts. Everything you say in these are considered 'under oath' and false statement are criminal acts, punishable by fines and jail time. For example Ed Trice claims that I had 'My 61 Memorable Games' printed. Our very first question will be for Ed Trice to provide proof of this statement. Now let's see whose story changes, and whose story remains the same!! Additionally, anyone receiving this notice and publishes Ed Trice's lies, will also be held accountable. I am sick and tired of these last six months having to deal with this scumbag Trice, who can't seem to read a damn thing presented to him. I have never, ever dealt with such a low life in my 53 years. And yes, some of you will be getting letters as to your communication with Ed Trice. I'm sorry, but I didn't bring this on, Ed Trice did. I will admit it, I have only one goal: To destroy Ed Trice for lying about me, and for taking advantage of a dying Bobby Fischer!! Bobby Fischer is on his deathbed, and Ed Trice is claiming he's got Fischer's permission to reprint My 61 Memorable Games. FOLKS: Is there a lower LOWLIFE in the chess community than Ed Trice??? Edward Labate May 23, 2008
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Date: 18 Jun 2008 10:00:05
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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In news:bfb1fdd5-d061-4a19-8181-48b1d472a78b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com Edward Labate <[email protected] > wrote: > On May 8th, I, Edward Labate, through my attorney Alfred E. Neuman, > mailed Ed Trice/Gothic Chess the following 'Demand For Retraction', > > ALFRED E. NEUMAN, IV ATTORNEY AT LAW That your attorney shares his name with the icon of MAD magazine is fitting. > Is there a lower LOWLIFE in the chess community than > Ed Trice??? Easy. Sam H. Sloan to name one. > Edward Labate > > May 23, 2008 Fuck your legal threats, biotch.
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Date: 15 Jun 2008 07:13:40
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 13, 6:30 pm, [email protected] wrote: > The only time Gothic Chess was played by more than a handful of people > is when it was on BrainKing.com. Unfortunately when Ed Trice was > allowed to be the moderator of the Gothic Chess message board be ended > up banning 43 people! Gothic Chess was eventually removed from the > site altogether. > > Trice liked to invent fictitious characters even then. Here is his > impression of a school girl called "ScarletRose":http://brainking.com/en/B= oard?bc=3D34&u=3D2925 > > "I expected to see a man who was all business like wearing dark rimmed > glasses and having a pencil stuck behind his ear.. But, you seem far > from that.. You actually are a nice looking man there Trice.." > > Creepy stuff. I think I prefer him as a 63 year old night watchman. It is obvious that both "Victor Rose" and "Scarlet Rose" (father- daughter?) are fake personalities created by Ed Trice, especially since she often writes about how "intelligent" he is. Here is one quote from a posting by "Scarlet Rose": "I do not mean to say Ed wasn=92t tempted to come down to everyone else=92s level.. Cause he is only human.. And he did at times.. That is when I started chatting more with him.. Seeing his side of the playing field.. And I learned that I was one lucky gal to have pushed the feelings aside that were openly stated throughout the site and actually get to know who is he rather than cast judgment on him for his type written words.. I am glad to call him a great friend. I have learned he has a wonderful sense of humor, is very intelligent and very real."
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Date: 13 Jun 2008 05:10:54
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 12, 1:48 pm, [email protected] wrote: > I am a night watchman. I also post regularly to the Gothic Chess Blog. > I also play on the Gothic-Chess.com game server. Someone sent an email > to everyone on the Gothic Chess blog with a link back to this page. > For whatever reason. I came here because one of you baiters asked me > and the rest of the Gothic Chess people here. I only posted because > all of you Labate supporters are out of your minds. Ed Labate is > mentally retarded. I've played Ed Trice many times. I've watched Ed > Trice play Cartaphilus and I watched both of them yell at each other > on the web, back and forth, for half a hour sometimes. Other people > played Ed while Cartaphilus was online also playing during the many > online tournaments that were run. You guys just say nonsense and > expect everyone to believe it. > > Well, you're all wrong! Can you provide us with that email that linked back to this? I don't know how you would get someones info off of a "blog". Also, if they got your information off of the discussion group they would have to be a member of that group and we could try to figure out who it was that sent the email. Would you please post the email here?
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Date: 12 Jun 2008 11:48:11
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Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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I am a night watchman. I also post regularly to the Gothic Chess Blog. I also play on the Gothic-Chess.com game server. Someone sent an email to everyone on the Gothic Chess blog with a link back to this page. For whatever reason. I came here because one of you baiters asked me and the rest of the Gothic Chess people here. I only posted because all of you Labate supporters are out of your minds. Ed Labate is mentally retarded. I've played Ed Trice many times. I've watched Ed Trice play Cartaphilus and I watched both of them yell at each other on the web, back and forth, for half a hour sometimes. Other people played Ed while Cartaphilus was online also playing during the many online tournaments that were run. You guys just say nonsense and expect everyone to believe it. Well, you're all wrong!
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Date: 06 Jun 2008 12:20:57
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Ed Trice also claims to be the co-author of the computer program that "solved" the game of checkers. However, the official website only lists Ed Trice as one of many and under "database verification" which I suppose means that he played some games against the computer. http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~chinook/thankyou/ Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Jun 2008 03:40:15
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Take a look at what is happening over on the Wikipedia biography of Bobby Fischer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bobby_Fischer#No.2C_we_don.27t_need_Gothic_Chess_mentioned_here Somebody (no doubt Ed Trice himself) keeps posting to the biography of Bobby that Bobby agreed to play a match of Gothic Chess. Of course, this is not true, a pure fabrication. Bobby would not even agree to play a match of regular chess. Sam Sloan
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Date: 04 Jun 2008 03:52:28
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Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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I'll just address one of your points for now. Ed Trice (hereafter called "that buffoon Ed Trice" to distinguish him from any other Ed Trices) definitely lives in Radnor, Pennsylvania. The whois server for gothicchess.com: http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=gothicchess.com&prog_id=godaddy lists his address as 309 Tory Turn, Radnor. Funnily enough, this is also the address of the Colgan family. Brian Colgan is one of the few people who actually exist in the Gothic Chess Federation apart from that buffoon Ed Trice himself, though Colgan is certainly not involved with Gothic Chess full time. Since that buffoon Ed Trice went bankrupt and lost his house in 2004: http://tinyurl.com/49rkog The most likely explanation is that Trice now lives in a bedsit at the home of his friend, Brian Colgan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games" read all about it here: http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html On 4 Jun, 06:05, [email protected] wrote: > > The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but > > Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you > find > > Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY > Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY > Ed Trice in Syosset, NY > Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY > Ed Trice in North Wales, PA > Ed Trice in Jamison, PA > Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA > Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA > Ed Trice in Dover, DE > Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE > Ed Trice in District Heights, MD > Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD > Ed Trice is Denton, MD > > 4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age. > 3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age. > 6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age. > > The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of > 2004. I assume that is not the person. > > The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial > "A". > The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A > Trice lives in Delaware. > So, this must be the person in question. > > The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making > posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible > conclusion.
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Date: 03 Jun 2008 22:05:32
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Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Lots to read. Some things contradict. Tough to sort out. A few things though You can't take anyone to court after you blab about it the way stuff went on here. Legal matters are private matters. Someone wronged you, you have to go through proper channels. The fact that both people ranted about it on the web is grounds to dismiss anything mentioned as evidence. The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you find Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY Ed Trice in Syosset, NY Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY Ed Trice in North Wales, PA Ed Trice in Jamison, PA Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA Ed Trice in Dover, DE Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE Ed Trice in District Heights, MD Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD Ed Trice is Denton, MD 4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age. 3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age. 6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age. The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of 2004. I assume that is not the person. The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial "A". The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A Trice lives in Delaware. So, this must be the person in question. The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible conclusion. Next item. Long long post on the blog about the Fischer match thing. Seems to be from a few years back. Seems some company asked for money and did nothing to make the match happen. Only way to resolve it - can people who contacted Fischer prove it? What would they be willing to stake to back up their claims? Seems a simple way. Do a 3 way call with the Iceland folks. Mitchell, Trice, whoever else. Record it. Turn it into an MP3. Host it. That will answer that. As for the book deal and the 6 month scam for $6000. Seems like a contract is needed. Email is not a contract. Also, saw somewhere Labate said 'No thanks.' End of story. Declining a deal is no way to claim 'foul' once you are out. Did a whole Intelius search on Labate too. Seems he won some sort of huge law suit from years back. Was a hell of a lot more than $30,000. Had an extra zero on it. Don't have all the detail, don't care for them. I saw the scan of the docket. So what's the docket number for the thing with Trice? No docket means no case and all the rest is just a bunch of hot air. V. Rosen On 31 May, 12:32, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed > Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. > > I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, > but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as > a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a > recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is > right and Ed Trice is a fraud. > > On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the > USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the > TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed > Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" > Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a > lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. > > Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: > > The Gothic Chess Federation > re: Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html > > Labate Chess > re: Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html > > Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. > > As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a > hoax ... > > US Chess Federation > My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery > by GM Larry Evans > February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 > > US Chess Federation > My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax > by GM Larry Evans > April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 > > Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal > complaint with the FBI) ... > > Chess Ninja > Daily Dirt > Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm > > Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games > Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread... > > Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel > lawsuit is filed ... > > The Gothic Chess Forum > re: Ed Labate > page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b... > page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...
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Date: 02 Jun 2008 14:56:52
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 2, 5:42 pm, Rob <[email protected] > wrote: > Believe Mr. Labate Interesting point: It is primarily because of Ed Trice that Rob "The Robber" Mitchell got his moniker "The Robber". So, as it becomes increasingly clear that Ed Trice was behind the "My 61 Memorable Games Hoax", one must consider the possibility, however unlikely as it may seem, that Rob Mitchell really did not try to swindle Ed Trice out of $35,000. Also, it was Ed Trice who claimed that he had written a computer program that had solved the game of checkers. This turns out not to be true either. So, we must look back and re-evaluate all the claims that Ed Trice has been making. Sam Sloan
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Date: 02 Jun 2008 14:42:26
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Jun 2, 6:48=A0am, [email protected] wrote: > Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the > eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007: > > "Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better. > Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email > address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding > resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100 > or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask > the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list. > Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do > the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller > purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to > [email protected] and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I > did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the > book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when > everyone else turned their backs on him." > > This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement > was, does it? > > On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed > > Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. > > > I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, > > but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as > > a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a > > recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is > > right and Ed Trice is a fraud. > > > On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the > > USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the > > TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed > > Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" > > Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a > > lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. > > > Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: > > > The Gothic Chess Federation > > re: Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html > > > Labate Chess > > re: Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html > > > Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. > > > As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a > > hoax ... > > > US Chess Federation > > My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery > > by GM Larry Evans > > February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 > > > US Chess Federation > > My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax > > by GM Larry Evans > > April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 > > > Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal > > complaint with the FBI) ... > > > Chess Ninja > > Daily Dirt > > Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for= _real.htm > > > Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games > > Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/bro= wse_thread... > > > Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel > > lawsuit is filed ... > > > The Gothic Chess Forum > > re: Ed Labate > > page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=3D779ce= ae97b... > > page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=3D71c84= 948aa...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Believe Mr. Labate
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Date: 02 Jun 2008 04:48:31
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Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007: "Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better. Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100 or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list. Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to [email protected] and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when everyone else turned their backs on him." This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement was, does it? On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed > Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. > > I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, > but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as > a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a > recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is > right and Ed Trice is a fraud. > > On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the > USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the > TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed > Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" > Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a > lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. > > Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: > > The Gothic Chess Federation > re: Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html > > Labate Chess > re: Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html > > Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. > > As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a > hoax ... > > US Chess Federation > My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery > by GM Larry Evans > February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 > > US Chess Federation > My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax > by GM Larry Evans > April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 > > Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal > complaint with the FBI) ... > > Chess Ninja > Daily Dirt > Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm > > Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games > Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread... > > Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel > lawsuit is filed ... > > The Gothic Chess Forum > re: Ed Labate > page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b... > page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...
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Date: 31 May 2008 12:08:42
From: Edward Labate
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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<Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a tournament organizer for at least 40 years. > Sam, I'm 53 years old...I've been selling chess books since 1979, and running tournaments since 1981,i.e. 24 years old and 26 years old, not at 13 years old! <On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. > Sam, I've emailed you on this before, and yet you persist and misstating what happened: The USCF suspended my affiliation without due process, i.e., notice. This was the famous "We received your money. However, your flag fell!' Gerry Dullea witticism. The USCF refuse to reinstate me, even though I know had a ZERO balance, thereby destroying my business. My business was based on foot traffic. Yes, they paid me to settle out of court $30,000.00, 13 months later!! Well, the damage was done. I won the battle and lost the war. My business never recovered and in 1990 I closed down my chess center and starting selling vintage sportscards. Best Wishes! Edward Labate National Chess Master P.O. Box 1404 Athens,AL. 35612 256.829.2298 / LEAVE MESSAGE OUTSIDE OF ALABAMA, TOLL FREE 877.336.7021 / LEAVE MESSAGE [email protected] P.S. newest website listings http://www.labatechess.com/store/ http://www.amazon.com/shops/labatechess ALSO, MUST READING / Please forward as a warning and Public Service Announcement/PSA to all you know: http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html RE: My 61 Memorable Games Hoax http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html RE: 'PHILLY PHRAUD', Ed Trice/ Gothic Chess http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.htmlm RE: Convicted Felon/ Pedophile, Robert Snyder
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Date: 31 May 2008 21:38:22
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:08:42 -0700 (PDT), Edward Labate <[email protected] > wrote: >http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.html Ed, is this the same guy who has a variation of the Sicilian named after him, and a variation in the Blackmar-Diemer gambit?
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Date: 31 May 2008 10:54:02
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Subject: Re: Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice
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From the Gothic Chess Forum http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b... We have Trice saying "You see, I am not married, nor have I ever been" And yet back in 2003 on www.gothicchess.org: http://web.archive.org/web/20040423184606/gothicchess.org/ic_2003_04.html the "Gothic Chess Patriarch" quoth: "I was there with my wife Ellie" (I love the WayBack Machine! - www.archive.org) This is just example where Trice has been caught out lying. The most hilarious examples can be found when he talks about the Gothic Chess tournaments he held which attracted 4000 or more participants! http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=54078&page=5 Would you buy a chunk of Mars from this man? www.legallyownlandonmars.com Ed Trice. A man who retired at 32 and owns three homes with no mortgage on any of them: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=317580&page=3 And yet was forced into bankrupcy in 2004: http://tinyurl.com/49rkog I am one of many people who Trice has crossed over the years. He is the sort of man who can start an argument (and initiate a scam) in an empty room.
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