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Date: 04 Jan 2007 14:54:24
From: samsloan
Subject: Dirty stuff from Nolan, Vaughn and Brock
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They're trying to invalidate my election petition by forcing me to show the names of the people who signed my petition. That's dirty tactic from them. Why should I tell them who signed my petition? It's none of their business. Sam Sloan
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Date: 04 Jan 2007 15:43:14
From: samsloan
Subject: Dirty stuff from Nolan, Owens, Vaughn and Brock
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samsloan wrote: > samsloan wrote: > > samsloan wrote: > > > They're trying to invalidate my election petition by forcing me to show > > > the names of the people who signed my petition. That's dirty tactic > > > from them. Why should I tell them who signed my petition? It's none of > > > their business. > > > > > > Sam Sloan > > > > Yes. It is a matter of record and any USCF member has a right to see > > it. > > > > If they want to see it, all the have to do is get on a bus, travel to > > Crossville Tennessee, go to the office and the office staff will be > > happy to show it to them, although they will not be allowed to copy it. > > > > > > However, telling the signer that his signature will be published in > > Chess Life Magazine or on a website will frighten away some signers. > > The only purpose of including that sentence in the petition is to > > frighten and scare away supporters of a certain candidate. > > > > Sam Sloan > > > Dirty trick from Mike Nolan: > > While I will agree that signing someone's petition is NOT an > endorsement of that person, I think it is clear under Illinois law that > election nomination petitions are important corporate governance > records, which ANY USCF MEMBER is entitled to inspect. > > I've talked to a number of people who have run for elected offices > (including two members of the USCF Election Committee--Harry Sabine and > Woody Harris), and in EVERY CASE they have said that their nomination > petitions were a matter of public record. > > I've run for public office in Nebraska (for school board and also as a > delegate to my political party's county convention), and although > neither nomination petition required any signatures other than my own, > as I recall the forms indicated that the information I was providing > was a matter of public record. > > Mike Nolan More dirty tactic by Steve Owens. Sam Sloan often tries to make an issue of a non-issue. So it is here. Signing a petition is tantamount to vouching for the petitioner to other members that the petitioner is worthy of the office they wish to hold in the opinion of the signer. How does one vouch for another in secret? In complaining about the public nature of a public process, jonnybear is relying on a Sam Sloan tactic of using non-facts to erect a straw man and knock it down. There is no issue. Petitions are public records. The objection of jonnybear's is absurd. I think it is hilarious that Sam Sloan, the person who makes every tidbit he can find about anyone public, is trying to keep facts relating to him private. _________________ Steve OWENS in Tennessee Just a USCF Member It is time to GROSS
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Date: 04 Jan 2007 14:58:15
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Dirty stuff from Nolan, Vaughn and Brock
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samsloan wrote: > samsloan wrote: > > They're trying to invalidate my election petition by forcing me to show > > the names of the people who signed my petition. That's dirty tactic > > from them. Why should I tell them who signed my petition? It's none of > > their business. > > > > Sam Sloan > > Yes. It is a matter of record and any USCF member has a right to see > it. > > If they want to see it, all the have to do is get on a bus, travel to > Crossville Tennessee, go to the office and the office staff will be > happy to show it to them, although they will not be allowed to copy it. > > > However, telling the signer that his signature will be published in > Chess Life Magazine or on a website will frighten away some signers. > The only purpose of including that sentence in the petition is to > frighten and scare away supporters of a certain candidate. > > Sam Sloan Dirty trick from Mike Nolan: While I will agree that signing someone's petition is NOT an endorsement of that person, I think it is clear under Illinois law that election nomination petitions are important corporate governance records, which ANY USCF MEMBER is entitled to inspect. I've talked to a number of people who have run for elected offices (including two members of the USCF Election Committee--Harry Sabine and Woody Harris), and in EVERY CASE they have said that their nomination petitions were a matter of public record. I've run for public office in Nebraska (for school board and also as a delegate to my political party's county convention), and although neither nomination petition required any signatures other than my own, as I recall the forms indicated that the information I was providing was a matter of public record. Mike Nolan
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Date: 04 Jan 2007 14:55:17
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Dirty stuff from Nolan, Vaughn and Brock
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samsloan wrote: > They're trying to invalidate my election petition by forcing me to show > the names of the people who signed my petition. That's dirty tactic > from them. Why should I tell them who signed my petition? It's none of > their business. > > Sam Sloan Yes. It is a matter of record and any USCF member has a right to see it. If they want to see it, all the have to do is get on a bus, travel to Crossville Tennessee, go to the office and the office staff will be happy to show it to them, although they will not be allowed to copy it. However, telling the signer that his signature will be published in Chess Life Magazine or on a website will frighten away some signers. The only purpose of including that sentence in the petition is to frighten and scare away supporters of a certain candidate. Sam Sloan
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