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Date: 07 Jun 2008 13:39:17
From: Michael Diosi
Subject: Chessbase GUI/Fritz 11...
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Hello,
You all know about nice features in Chessbase as they are regularry
announced on their homepage. One of them is the position explainer. Here is
a nice screenshot of how "usefull" this feature is:
http://www.playwitharena.com/common/pic/stellungserklaerer.jpg (In German it
says, white has a constricted position...) hmm really ?
Also you surelly heard about the reliable cheating detecting software. We
have some screenshots of this software in action:
http://www.playwitharena.com/common\pic\fritz11. (who cheated here ?)
http://www.playwitharena.com\common\pic\f10-struggling5. (take a look at
the score)
http://www.playwitharena.com\\common\pic\f11-struggling2.png here the
cheating detection software took away the points from white for ranking
manipulation, as the programm indicated an advantage of +23.16
This features are not aproblem of course, it is the support/Chessbase sysop
reaction if you tell them about the bugs. Remember you all pay for this crap
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Michael Diosi
http://www.playwitharena.com
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Date: 09 Jun 2008 12:21:20
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chessbase GUI/Fritz 11...
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Michael Diosi <[email protected] > wrote:
> Also you surelly heard about the reliable cheating detecting
> software. We have some screenshots of this software in action:
>
> http://www.playwitharena.com/common\pic\fritz11. (who cheated here ?)
> http://www.playwitharena.com\common\pic\f10-struggling5. (take a look at
> the score)
> http://www.playwitharena.com\\common\pic\f11-struggling2.png here the
> cheating detection software took away the points from white for ranking
> manipulation, as the programm indicated an advantage of +23.16
Those URLs got mangled. The correct ones are
http://www.playwitharena.com/common/pic/fritz11.
http://www.playwitharena.com/common/pic/f10-struggling5.
http://www.playwitharena.com/common/pic/f11-struggling2.png
To be honest, I'm not sure what the first two are supposed to show.
It is impossible to say that anyone has cheated in the first one; has
Fritz asserted that somebody did? In the second one, why is it a
problem that the GUI quotes an evaluation of exact equality in a
position where the game is over? Sure, it would be nice if it blanked
that part of the display but it's hardly a serious problem.
The third one is bad, however -- the engine evaluating a position as
+23.16 when every legal move stalemates black. (By the way, the
knight on d5 looks redundant to me; does the problem still occur if
that piece is removed?)
Dave.
--
David Richerby Perforated Strange Tongs (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a pair of tongs but it's totally
weird and full of holes!
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From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: Chessbase GUI/Fritz 11...
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Date: 09 Jun 2008 15:49:51
From: Michael Diosi
Subject: Re: Chessbase GUI/Fritz 11...
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Hello David,
Thank you for correcting the URL's. The point is that Chessbase and their
sysops say the software is RELIABLE when they kick people from the server
for what they call "cheating". But their software is not reliable. So I will
let the people know before buying such a software they should know that
ChessBase sysops will accuse them for cheating if they don't like their
face...
If you take away the knight everything is o.k.
Michael
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Date: 09 Jun 2008 16:34:26
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chessbase GUI/Fritz 11...
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Michael Diosi <[email protected] > wrote:
> The point is that Chessbase and their sysops say the software is
> RELIABLE when they kick people from the server for what they call
> "cheating". But their software is not reliable.
Thanks for the clarification.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Surprise Devil Drink (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a refreshing juice beverage that's
possessed by Satan but not like
you'd expect!
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