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Date: 11 Jul 2008 12:36:33
From: Michael Diosi
Subject: Chessbase 10
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Hello Chesslovers,
As you all know by now Chessbase will release version 10 of their program on
July the 21st.. As our sources say the program is able to play Rachmaninov
music in the background now. It still doesn't understand the rules of chess,
according to our informant. By the way we didn't get any reviewer's copy. It
seems they don't like independent reviews. Only magazines depending on
ChessBase advertising will get such a copy so they can umm , you know what I
mean...
Also their corrupt sysops who kick innocent users from the servers will get
such a copy...
Best,
Michael
Mind the Base ... join the Arena
http://www.playwitharena.com
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Date: 11 Jul 2008 12:31:12
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chessbase 10
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Michael Diosi <[email protected] > wrote:
> As you all know by now Chessbase will release version 10 of their
> program on July the 21st.. As our sources say the program is able to
> play Rachmaninov music in the background now. It still doesn't
> understand the rules of chess, according to our informant. By the
> way we didn't get any reviewer's copy. It seems they don't like
> independent reviews. Only magazines depending on ChessBase
> advertising will get such a copy so they can umm , you know what I
> mean...
You're not independent -- you're a competitor. I wouldn't trust you
to write an unbiased review any more than I'd trust a ChessBase
fanboy.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Hilarious Peanut (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a roasted nut but it's a bundle
of laughs!
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Date: 11 Jul 2008 13:49:43
From: Michael Diosi
Subject: Re: Chessbase 10
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Hello
I was awaiting such a silly comment. I am independent because I don't sell
anything. I do not depend on any Chessbase adverts or sponsoring. Also I
don't sell any of ChessBase competitors software.I don't get payed by anyone
to write the review. This is what is called independent.Arena is also FREE
! So ChessBase is not a competitor at all. Go on and trust all the
ChessBase reports which don't tell you anything about the bugs. It is your
money afterall so you may spend it for any crap ChessBase software you want.
I bet you weren't aware of any pf the ChessBase bugs before I posted them !
I will continue posting each and every bug so people know before they buy
crap ChessBase software and they get informed about bugs, ChessBase sysops
behaviour on the server, ChessBase telephon support and so on. Those things
you usually don't read about in "serious" pages and magazines because they
either sell this crap ChessBase software and would make any positive review
they could or they depend on ChessBase advertising.
Michael
Mind the Base...Join the Arena
http://www.playwitharena.com
"David Richerby" <[email protected] > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4mb*[email protected]...
> Michael Diosi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As you all know by now Chessbase will release version 10 of their
>> program on July the 21st.. As our sources say the program is able to
>> play Rachmaninov music in the background now. It still doesn't
>> understand the rules of chess, according to our informant. By the
>> way we didn't get any reviewer's copy. It seems they don't like
>> independent reviews. Only magazines depending on ChessBase
>> advertising will get such a copy so they can umm , you know what I
>> mean...
>
> You're not independent -- you're a competitor. I wouldn't trust you
> to write an unbiased review any more than I'd trust a ChessBase
> fanboy.
>
>
> Dave.
>
> --
> David Richerby Hilarious Peanut (TM): it's
> like
> www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a roasted nut but it's a
> bundle
> of laughs!
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Date: 10 Sep 2008 05:25:09
From: keith
Subject: Re: Chessbase 10
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:49:43 +0200, "Michael Diosi"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>Hello
>
Hello
is there a site you could recommend where it is listed the Bugs in
Chessbase, I use CB8 but a list of CB9 or CB10 would be handy/useful
and may well strike me as familiar.
thanks
Keith (at present am googling "chessbse bugs" as well as reading
exactachess as well as the Area site)
>
>I was awaiting such a silly comment. I am independent because I don't sell
>anything. I do not depend on any Chessbase adverts or sponsoring. Also I
>don't sell any of ChessBase competitors software.I don't get payed by anyone
>to write the review. This is what is called independent.Arena is also FREE
>! So ChessBase is not a competitor at all. Go on and trust all the
>ChessBase reports which don't tell you anything about the bugs. It is your
>money afterall so you may spend it for any crap ChessBase software you want.
>I bet you weren't aware of any pf the ChessBase bugs before I posted them !
>I will continue posting each and every bug so people know before they buy
>crap ChessBase software and they get informed about bugs, ChessBase sysops
>behaviour on the server, ChessBase telephon support and so on. Those things
>you usually don't read about in "serious" pages and magazines because they
>either sell this crap ChessBase software and would make any positive review
>they could or they depend on ChessBase advertising.
>
>
>Michael
>Mind the Base...Join the Arena
>http://www.playwitharena.com
>
>
>"David Richerby" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:4mb*[email protected]...
>> Michael Diosi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As you all know by now Chessbase will release version 10 of their
>>> program on July the 21st.. As our sources say the program is able to
>>> play Rachmaninov music in the background now. It still doesn't
>>> understand the rules of chess, according to our informant. By the
>>> way we didn't get any reviewer's copy. It seems they don't like
>>> independent reviews. Only magazines depending on ChessBase
>>> advertising will get such a copy so they can umm , you know what I
>>> mean...
>>
>> You're not independent -- you're a competitor. I wouldn't trust you
>> to write an unbiased review any more than I'd trust a ChessBase
>> fanboy.
>>
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> --
>> David Richerby Hilarious Peanut (TM): it's
>> like
>> www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a roasted nut but it's a
>> bundle
>> of laughs!
>
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Date: 11 Jul 2008 20:21:31
From: SAT W-7
Subject: Re: Chessbase 10
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I would trust your review as long as you gave us the true facts and
your unbiased opinion..
Since your not being paid i would belive what you say..
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Date: 11 Jul 2008 14:39:26
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chessbase 10
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Michael Diosi <[email protected] > wrote:
> David Richerby <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You're not independent -- you're a competitor. I wouldn't trust
>> you to write an unbiased review any more than I'd trust a ChessBase
>> fanboy.
>
> I was awaiting such a silly comment. I am independent because I
> don't sell anything.
Whether you sell things is irrelevant. You are not independent
because you produce (and give away) a product that competes with those
that ChessBase sells. It is, therefore, in your best interests to
encourage people to use your product rather than ChessBase's.
> I bet you weren't aware of any pf the ChessBase bugs before I posted
> them !
I wasn't aware of the specific bugs you pointed out, no. However, my
copy of Fritz 8 is full of irritating little bugs so I'm not at all
surprised to learn of similar bugs in ChessBase. Thank you for
bringing them to our attention.
But I still don't expect you to write an unbiased review of ChessBase.
I expect you would write a truthful review of the software but that is
not the same thing.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Swiss Tree (TM): it's like a tree but
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ it's made in Switzerland!
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Date: 11 Jul 2008 16:51:13
From: Michael Diosi
Subject: Re: Chessbase 10
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Hello,
" >>> You're not independent -- you're a competitor. I wouldn't trust
>>> you to write an unbiased review any more than I'd trust a ChessBase
>>> fanboy.
>>
>> I was awaiting such a silly comment. I am independent because I
>> don't sell anything.
>
> Whether you sell things is irrelevant. You are not independent
> because you produce (and give away) a product that competes with those
> that ChessBase sells. It is, therefore, in your best interests to
> encourage people to use your product rather than ChessBase's.
>
This is what it's called independent. I do not DEPEND on ChessBase NOR on
any of their concurents NOR do I do a living out of Arena. I don't give
anything away, people download the software from our page. This is like
saying appletrees are giving apples away.
>> I bet you weren't aware of any pf the ChessBase bugs before I posted
>> them !
>
> I wasn't aware of the specific bugs you pointed out, no. However, my
> copy of Fritz 8 is full of irritating little bugs so I'm not at all
> surprised to learn of similar bugs in ChessBase. Thank you for
> bringing them to our attention.
I will continue doing this here and on the Arena and Exactachess page.
> But I still don't expect you to write an unbiased review of ChessBase.
> I expect you would write a truthful review of the software but that is
> not the same thing.
It in an independent report presenting you the true value of the product.
Only the truth, no inventions and magic advertising tricks like all other
reports you will be able to read or are already reading everywhere. Unlike
Arena where bugs were described in a forum and we also had a page describing
all bugs http://playwitharena.com/upd/upd-3.htm Chessbase doesn't have
this. You get banned on the server for mentioning such bugs. As you see this
is independent, mentioning also the bugs and not only the positive aspects
of our own software. This is true journalism and refutes your thesis about
us beeing biased. We do post own bugs, ChessBase doesn't, they are biased,
not us. We are their main concurent as Arena is free. They are not our
concurent. All proofs are out there. Check the history of the Arena pages
at http://www.archive.org
>
> Dave.
>
> --
> David Richerby Swiss Tree (TM): it's like a tree
> but
> it's made in Switzerland!
>www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/
Michael Diosi
Mind the Base...Join the Arena
http://www.playwitharena.com
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