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Date: 08 Aug 2006 14:43:57
From: Tom
Subject: Boycott Gettysburg
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Link to Gettysburg photos showing the Gettysburg battlefield before
superintendent John Latschar's ego ran amok and ruined it.
http://users.snip.net/~hart/
We loved Gettysburg: ried there, took dozens of week-long trips, spent
many thousands of dollars there, and even considered moving there. But those
days are over thanks to park superintendent John Latschar. He's ruining the
Gettysburg battlefield. He calls it restoration. Desecration is more
descriptive. If we spent another dime we'd be supporting the destruction. We
refuse.
Trees are being ripped out wholesale. The deer have been slaughtered.
Visiting on a November evening is an experience everyone should be able to
enjoy, but he shortened the decades-old operating hours so you'll be
ticketed and labeled criminals. He threw up so many one-way signs that
traffic in town has become a tourist's nighte. His nonsense goes on and
on.
He likes saying, "The time for comment was during the planning, not now."
Well, Bozo, the public DID and continues to comment, but you ignore them.
Tens of 1000s have voiced their concern, but you act as though the
Gettysburg battlefield is your own private domain to use and abuse as you
please. It belongs to the taxpayers, not an arrogant, government-appointed
bureaucratic freeloader.
Gettysburg battlefield ghost hunters have been turned away in droves because
he equates them with drug users and drinkers. What a moron. Not only is the
town losing a fortune toward the local economy, the park is losing thousands
of watchful eyes from some of the most respectful visitors. Those with evil
intent will always gain access at night as was proven by recent vandalism.
Closing the park merely keeps honest folks out. John Latschar has, in
effect, given vandals free rein.
Attendance is lagging. He blames everything except his own bumbling. He
constantly moans about never having enough money to fix rotting cannons,
monuments and buildings, yet continues wasting funds on mindnumbingly
senseless projects that divide the townspeople and drives others away. It's
typical government ineptness.
Looks like John Latschar sits around dreaming up new ways to piss people
off. If he's not shooting the wildlife, cutting down 100s of acres of trees,
changing the hours or screwing up traffic flow, he'll devise some other
dumbass plan. Chances are he'll eventually move on to another location
leaving his mess and debts behind for someone else. It wouldn't be the first
time.
What's worse than allowing John Latschar to inflict so much damage to the
Gettysburg battlefield? Most of you sit idly by and let it happen without so
much as a whimper. Talk is cheap, but a Gettysburg boycott speaks volumes.
We're doing our part. Good bye Gettysburg. You were our favorite place on
Earth until John Latschar raped you. Now you're just a memory. What a pity
and disgrace.
Cassie and Tom
http://users.snip.net/~hart/
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 00:13:47
From: Ange1o DePa1ma
Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg
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"Tom" <[email protected] > wrote
> Trees are being ripped out wholesale. The deer have been slaughtered.
Sorry about the trees. Kill 95% of the deer and all of us will be better
off. There are too many deer in the US NE.
adp
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 01:01:02
From: pulgao
Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:43:57 -0400, "Tom"
<[email protected] > wrote:
>Link to Gettysburg photos showing the Gettysburg battlefield before
>superintendent John Latschar's ego ran amok and ruined it.
>http://users.snip.net/~hart/
>
>We loved Gettysburg: ried there, took dozens of week-long trips, spent
>many thousands of dollars there, and even considered moving there. But those
>days are over thanks to park superintendent John Latschar. He's ruining the
>Gettysburg battlefield. He calls it restoration. Desecration is more
>descriptive. If we spent another dime we'd be supporting the destruction. We
>refuse.
Admission to the park is free. So where are you spending any "dimes"?
>
>Trees are being ripped out wholesale.
The battlefield is being returned to its 1863 appearance. Foliage that
was not present at the time of the battle is being removed. You've
conveniently forgotten to mention that trees are also being *planted*
to refoliate acreage that was forested at the time of the battle. The
same thing is being done at Antietam, as well as at other national
battlefield sites.
>The deer have been slaughtered.
Because the vegetation can't support the overgrown deer population.
They're not *all* being killed (or "slaughtered", as your hot-button
hyoerbole would have it); the herds are being reduced to a level that
the park's vegetation can support.
>Visiting on a November evening is an experience everyone should be able to
>enjoy, but he shortened the decades-old operating hours so you'll be
>ticketed and labeled criminals.
The park hours have been shortened due to the *numerous* acts of
vandalism that have been plaguing the park. This past spring, several
monuments were horrifcally vandalized -- among them, the bronze Zouave
statue alongside Rt 15 was dragged off of the ble pedestal
(apparently by a chain pulled by a truck), falling 15 feet to the
ground and destroying a wrought iron fence which surrounded the
monument. It's a miracle that the monument wasn't destroyed.
The park remains open until 10 PM (as is the case with most other
Civil War battlefields). Since dusk comes around 6 PM in November, I
find it necessary to question your motives in wishing to stay longer.
If it's ghost hunting (see below), my GH friends tell me that just
before dawn and just after dusk are the likely times for spirit
activity.
>He threw up so many one-way signs that
>traffic in town has become a tourist's nighte. His nonsense goes on and
>on.
The only one-way signs are where they've always been, ever since I was
a child: on the *tour roads*. There's little impact on the traffic in
town proper. The *real* problem is that the park draws several
thousand tourists a day to a town in which many of the streets aren't
much wider than they were in horse and buggy days.
>He likes saying, "The time for comment was during the planning, not now."
>Well, Bozo, the public DID and continues to comment, but you ignore them.
>Tens of 1000s have voiced their concern,
Citation on the numbers, please.
>but you act as though the
>Gettysburg battlefield is your own private domain to use and abuse as you
>please. It belongs to the taxpayers, not an arrogant, government-appointed
>bureaucratic freeloader.
>
>Gettysburg battlefield ghost hunters have been turned away in droves because
>he equates them with drug users and drinkers. What a moron.
Interesting theory, but without any factual basis whatsoever. I was on
the battlefield for all three of the anniversary days last month and
saw *packs* of ghost hunters. One hunter even asked for my help as an
experienced historian in locating points of interest. We toured the
park (ghost hunting) until well after dark on July 3rd, with nary a
glance from the numerous rangers we encountered. (I personally believe
most of the ghost hunting stuff is pretty much bogus, but it was an
interesting diversion at the end of three days of historical research.
The fact that the lady was cute certainly helped).
>Not only is the
>town losing a fortune toward the local economy,
Now you're just ranting because you like the sound. On July 1st 2006,
I saw *more* people present at the park than I have at any previous
time in my 30+ years of frequent visits, including any of the three
days of the 140th anniversary in 2003.
>the park is losing thousands
>of watchful eyes from some of the most respectful visitors. Those with evil
>intent will always gain access at night as was proven by recent vandalism.
>Closing the park merely keeps honest folks out. John Latschar has, in
>effect, given vandals free rein.
>
>Attendance is lagging.
Cite, please? I beg to differ. I'm seeing more people there now than
ever before (but more on this later at the end of my reply).
>He blames everything except his own bumbling. He
>constantly moans about never having enough money to fix rotting cannons,
>monuments and buildings, yet continues wasting funds on mindnumbingly
>senseless projects that divide the townspeople and drives others away. It's
>typical government ineptness.
An example, please, of where the money is being "wasted", if you don't
mind. The biggest problem with the park is that they *don't* charge an
admission fee as do most other national parks and historic sites.
Gettysburg draws more tourists by far than any other Civil War
battlefield (1.5 million people a year, compared to Antietam's quarter
million. And places like Monocacy are just laughable as far as
attendance -- I'm willing to bet they don't get much more than
double-digit attendance, even in the summer months).
The main thing dividing the townspeople is the **casino** issue. I
hear about that endlessly, but nary a word about current Park Service
administration.
>
>Looks like John Latschar sits around dreaming up new ways to piss people
>off. If he's not shooting the wildlife, cutting down 100s of acres of trees,
>changing the hours or screwing up traffic flow, he'll devise some other
>dumbass plan. Chances are he'll eventually move on to another location
>leaving his mess and debts behind for someone else. It wouldn't be the first
>time.
>
>What's worse than allowing John Latschar to inflict so much damage to the
>Gettysburg battlefield?
Listening to you rant about things of which you have no clue? Just a
guess. Make that question multiple choice next time around.
>Most of you sit idly by and let it happen without so
>much as a whimper.
Most of us have a semblance of a clue as to what's actually going on,
unlike yourself who seems to be doing all of the whimpering here.
>Talk is cheap, but a Gettysburg boycott speaks volumes.
And how would that be gauged, since there's no admission fee to the
park? The only thing you'd be hurting is the local economy which you
were so ineptly championing several turgid paragraphs ago.
>We're doing our part. Good bye Gettysburg. You were our favorite place on
>Earth until John Latschar raped you. Now you're just a memory. What a pity
>and disgrace.
>
>Cassie and Tom
>http://users.snip.net/~hart/
Now for what I think is *really* going on here.
1) You love the place, but you're pissed off at the number of visitors
-- makes it hard for you to get around. So a "boycott" would suit your
purposes well, since you seem to think the park ought to be your
private domain.
2) You have some personal axe to grind with Mr. Latschar other than
what you've somewhat more than hysterically related here.
3) You're an overzealous pair of ghost hunters who overstepped the
bounds and somehow ran afoul of Park Service administration.
4) Some combination of #1 - #3.
Either way, you're misinformed, your facts are skewed, fabricated, or
non-existent, and your hyperbolic tone is far past hysterical.
In short, you're full of shit. Please boycott the park -- the other
1.5 million of us won't miss you.
And on top of that, you're posting to the wrong newsgroup.
Watch out for that door impacting your ass on the way out.
-- Steve Lopez
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