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Date: 25 Nov 2006 02:59:55
From: John Evans
Subject: Achieving Your Chess Goals

I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/

Date: 27 Nov 2006 04:21:44
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

John Evans wrote:
> I appreciate your input, but I disagree with your assessment of the post. I
> did list why I failed which is the first step to fixing any problem, but
> as a fellow chess player I'm sure you agree with doing this first. Also, I
> thought for every problem I mentioned I gave a solution that has worked for
> me. As for the accountability step, I believe you should look deep into
> yourself and find whatever you have too in order to reach your goals. In
> some cases that's the help of others. You grab motivation from wherever you
> can get it.
>
> In any event, I honestly appreciate that fact that you took the time to read
> it and write me such a detailed response. I will look at checking the book
> you suggested out from the library to see if I like it.
>
> My goal is to improve and with your help and others here I know I will do
> it.
>
> Oh, I enjoy reading your post on your site that's what motivated me to post
> my training schedule. Keep up the good work!
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John
> http://growwithchess.com/
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > John Evans wrote:
> >> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
> >> chess.
> >> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
> >>
> >> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
> >> site.
> >> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
> >>
> >> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> John
> >> http://growwithchess.com/
> >
> > Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
> > as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
> > but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
> > advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.
> >
> > But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
> > and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
> > commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
> > but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
> > 'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
> > itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
> > attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
> > is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
> > really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
> > about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
> > and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.
> >
> > Regards,
> > http://chess-training.blogspot.com
> >

The problem with you being motivated by what others think is that you
have NO CONTROL over that. One day you will come to work and come to
the realization that no-one at work really, truly cares about your
chess skills. Then, where does that leave you? Do you 'reassess' your
motivation?

You cannot replace motivation from within by externalizing it. You will
fail. That is why you need to forget about ratings and what they say to
the outside world about your chess skills. It's just a number that
changes after every game, and if you get hung on them, you'll start
cherry-picking whom and when you play, and that in itself is
detrimental to your game.

My 2cs.

http://chess-training.blogspot.com

Date: 28 Nov 2006 03:56:36
From: John Evans
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

I see the misunderstanding. I did not mean to imply that my only motivation
is derived from others. I use it to get me through the lazy times. When I
say I'm too tired to study or I want to stop I think of my friends and
family who come to all my tournaments to see how I'm doing. I don't want to
let myself or them down. This gives me that extra boost.

I do agree with you about ratings and that the core of your motivation has
to come from within.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> John Evans wrote:
>> I appreciate your input, but I disagree with your assessment of the post.
>> I
>> did list why I failed which is the first step to fixing any problem,
>> but
>> as a fellow chess player I'm sure you agree with doing this first. Also,
>> I
>> thought for every problem I mentioned I gave a solution that has worked
>> for
>> me. As for the accountability step, I believe you should look deep into
>> yourself and find whatever you have too in order to reach your goals. In
>> some cases that's the help of others. You grab motivation from wherever
>> you
>> can get it.
>>
>> In any event, I honestly appreciate that fact that you took the time to
>> read
>> it and write me such a detailed response. I will look at checking the
>> book
>> you suggested out from the library to see if I like it.
>>
>> My goal is to improve and with your help and others here I know I will do
>> it.
>>
>> Oh, I enjoy reading your post on your site that's what motivated me to
>> post
>> my training schedule. Keep up the good work!
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> http://growwithchess.com/
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > John Evans wrote:
>> >> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
>> >> chess.
>> >> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>> >>
>> >> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
>> >> site.
>> >> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>> >>
>> >> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> John
>> >> http://growwithchess.com/
>> >
>> > Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
>> > as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
>> > but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
>> > advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.
>> >
>> > But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
>> > and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
>> > commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
>> > but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
>> > 'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
>> > itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
>> > attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
>> > is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
>> > really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
>> > about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
>> > and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > http://chess-training.blogspot.com
>> >
>
> The problem with you being motivated by what others think is that you
> have NO CONTROL over that. One day you will come to work and come to
> the realization that no-one at work really, truly cares about your
> chess skills. Then, where does that leave you? Do you 'reassess' your
> motivation?
>
> You cannot replace motivation from within by externalizing it. You will
> fail. That is why you need to forget about ratings and what they say to
> the outside world about your chess skills. It's just a number that
> changes after every game, and if you get hung on them, you'll start
> cherry-picking whom and when you play, and that in itself is
> detrimental to your game.
>
> My 2cs.
>
> http://chess-training.blogspot.com
>

Date: 26 Nov 2006 14:19:30
From:
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

John Evans ha escrito:

> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>
> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John

Hello,

I think you need to do some more things to analyze a game:

1) To add personal feelings, personal evaluations, your main idea. I
think it's important to verbalize.

You only posted a single personal note: 5. h3 a6 {i'm worried about
Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4)
And that comment is importnat because I can answer I think 5...a6 is a
waste of time 5...Nf6 is better and black has nothing to fear after
6.Na4 because He has Nxe4 winning a pawn.

Adding persnal view you help us to helping you: for example it's very
different to write "I saw 20....Rf4 21.Nxh5 and I allow it because I
though that to open the g line was good for black" and "I though
20...Rf4 would win white queen but I failed to see 21.Nxh5!"

2) Long lines without evaluations or annotations are nonsense

For example you have written: "(43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46.
Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5 Kf7 49.f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52.
Ke7" without any verbal annotation.

I mean I prefer something like:
Does not change the result 43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4
Kf6 47. f5 winning white easily advancing his "f " pawn and eating for
free the black "h" pawns.

3) There are no conclusions.

If I had studied that game I would try to find where I did wrong
suggesting alternatives.

In that case I think 37...h4?? to be the losing mistake no matter I
think it has some plan (like prepare Kf5-g5-f4 ... unfortunately that
can be avoided by white playing Ke3 and f4!).
I suggest you to study 37...d5 and the line 22...h4! 23.Qh2 Qc6! 24.Rc3
Qb6!

Antonio Torrecillas

------------ Copied form your site: -------------------

My first real analysis
Saturday, November 25, 2006

I spent about two hours looking at this game I lost and after going
over it I think I should have won it. This may sound strange, but this
maybe the first game I have ever analyzed on my own. I put the game in
fritz, but I did all the analysis. Doing analysis is still new to me so
if you have any suggestions on how to do it better or what I should be
looking for then leave a comment. To see my analysis look at the first
game in my daily chess training games or copy it from below.

[Event "Southern Open August 4-6 2006"]
[Site "Orlando Hilton"]
[Date "2006.08.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chase Carson"]
[Black "John Evans"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C50"]
[WhiteElo "1465"]
[BlackElo "1457"]
[Annotator "R.,John"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[EventDate "2006.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. Nc3 d6 (4... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5.
Nxe5 (5.
Ng5 O-O) 5... Nxe5 6. d4 Bxd4 7. Qxd4 d6 {Not sure if this the exact
sequence
but I've seen it many times and I like black here.}) 5. h3 a6 {
i'm worried about Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4) 6. d3 h6 7. O-O Nf6 8. a3 O-O
9. Re1
Be6 10. Bxe6 fxe6 11. Ne2 Nh5 12. d4 exd4 13. Nexd4 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Qe8
15. Be3
e5 16. Nf5 Bxe3 17. Rxe3 Rd8 18. Qg4 Kh7 19. Qh4 g6 20. Ng3 Rf4 21.
Nxh5 gxh5
22. Qg3 Qf7 23. Rf3 Rxf3 24. Qxf3 Qxf3 25. gxf3 Rg8+ 26. Kf1 Kg6 27.
Ke2 Kf6
28. Rd1 a5 29. Rh1 (29. Rd5 b6 30. c4 Ke6 31. Ke3 c6 (31... Rg2 32. b4
axb4 33.
axb4 Rh2 34. c5 Rxh3 35. cxd6 cxd6 36. Rb5 Rh1 37. Rxb6 h4 38. Rc6 Kd7
39. b5
h3 40. Ra6 h2 41. b6 (41. Ra7+ Kc8 42. b6 Re1+ 43. Kd2 h1=Q 44. b7+
Kb8) 41...
Re1+ 42. Kd2 h1=Q 43. b7 Rd1+ 44. Kc2 Rc1+ 45. Kd2 Qd1+ 46. Ke3 Rc3#)
32. Rd1
Rg2 33. Rh1 d5 34. cxd5+ cxd5 35. exd5+ Kxd5 36. Rd1+ Ke6 37. Rd8 Rh2
38. Rh8
Rxh3 39. Rxh6+ Kd5 40. Rxb6 Kc5 41. Ra6 Kb5 42. Re6 Kc4 43. Rxe5) 29...
b5 30.
Rd1 Ke6 31. Ke3 Rg2 32. Rh1 c5 33. Ke2 b4 34. axb4 axb4 35. Kf1 Rg6 36.
Rg1
Rxg1+ 37. Kxg1 h4 38. Kf1 d5 39. Ke2 c4 (39... dxe4 40. fxe4 c4 41. f4
exf4 42.
b3 cxb3 43. cxb3 Ke5 44. Kf3 h5 45. Ke2 Kxe4 46. Kf2 Kd3 47. Kf3 Kc3
48. Kxf4
Kxb3 49. Kg5 Kc2 50. Kxh5 b3 51. Kxh4 b2 52. Kg5 b1=Q 53. h4 Qg1+ 54.
Kf6 Qg8
55. h5 Kd3 56. h6 Ke4 57. Ke7 Qh7+) 40. exd5+ Kxd5 41. Ke3 h5 42. c3 b3
43. f4
exf4+ (43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5
Kf7 49.
f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52. Ke7) 44. Kxf4 Ke6 45. Kg5 Ke7 46. Kf5
Ke8 47.
Ke6 Kf8 48. f4 0-1

Date: 26 Nov 2006 22:58:32
From: John Evans
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

Thank you! That's exactly the kind of help I need. Like I stated in my post,
this was the first time I've ever analyzed a game on my own. Its amazing,
now that I think about it, that I've played for so long without doing it.
This is probably the main reason for me not improving.

I think its so easy to forget to write down my thoughts when Fritz allows me
to try different variations so quickly. I will try to do better.

Again thank you!

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Evans ha escrito:
>
>> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
>> chess.
>> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>>
>> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
>> site.
>> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John
>
> Hello,
>
> I think you need to do some more things to analyze a game:
>
> 1) To add personal feelings, personal evaluations, your main idea. I
> think it's important to verbalize.
>
> You only posted a single personal note: 5. h3 a6 {i'm worried about
> Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4)
> And that comment is importnat because I can answer I think 5...a6 is a
> waste of time 5...Nf6 is better and black has nothing to fear after
> 6.Na4 because He has Nxe4 winning a pawn.
>
> Adding persnal view you help us to helping you: for example it's very
> different to write "I saw 20....Rf4 21.Nxh5 and I allow it because I
> though that to open the g line was good for black" and "I though
> 20...Rf4 would win white queen but I failed to see 21.Nxh5!"
>
> 2) Long lines without evaluations or annotations are nonsense
>
> For example you have written: "(43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46.
> Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5 Kf7 49.f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52.
> Ke7" without any verbal annotation.
>
> I mean I prefer something like:
> Does not change the result 43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4
> Kf6 47. f5 winning white easily advancing his "f " pawn and eating for
> free the black "h" pawns.
>
> 3) There are no conclusions.
>
> If I had studied that game I would try to find where I did wrong
> suggesting alternatives.
>
> In that case I think 37...h4?? to be the losing mistake no matter I
> think it has some plan (like prepare Kf5-g5-f4 ... unfortunately that
> can be avoided by white playing Ke3 and f4!).
> I suggest you to study 37...d5 and the line 22...h4! 23.Qh2 Qc6! 24.Rc3
> Qb6!
>
> Antonio Torrecillas
>
> ------------ Copied form your site: -------------------
>
> My first real analysis
> Saturday, November 25, 2006
>
> I spent about two hours looking at this game I lost and after going
> over it I think I should have won it. This may sound strange, but this
> maybe the first game I have ever analyzed on my own. I put the game in
> fritz, but I did all the analysis. Doing analysis is still new to me so
> if you have any suggestions on how to do it better or what I should be
> looking for then leave a comment. To see my analysis look at the first
> game in my daily chess training games or copy it from below.
>
> [Event "Southern Open August 4-6 2006"]
> [Site "Orlando Hilton"]
> [Date "2006.08.06"]
> [Round "?"]
> [White "Chase Carson"]
> [Black "John Evans"]
> [Result "0-1"]
> [ECO "C50"]
> [WhiteElo "1465"]
> [BlackElo "1457"]
> [Annotator "R.,John"]
> [PlyCount "95"]
> [EventDate "2006.??.??"]
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. Nc3 d6 (4... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5.
> Nxe5 (5.
> Ng5 O-O) 5... Nxe5 6. d4 Bxd4 7. Qxd4 d6 {Not sure if this the exact
> sequence
> but I've seen it many times and I like black here.}) 5. h3 a6 {
> i'm worried about Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4) 6. d3 h6 7. O-O Nf6 8. a3 O-O
> 9. Re1
> Be6 10. Bxe6 fxe6 11. Ne2 Nh5 12. d4 exd4 13. Nexd4 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Qe8
> 15. Be3
> e5 16. Nf5 Bxe3 17. Rxe3 Rd8 18. Qg4 Kh7 19. Qh4 g6 20. Ng3 Rf4 21.
> Nxh5 gxh5
> 22. Qg3 Qf7 23. Rf3 Rxf3 24. Qxf3 Qxf3 25. gxf3 Rg8+ 26. Kf1 Kg6 27.
> Ke2 Kf6
> 28. Rd1 a5 29. Rh1 (29. Rd5 b6 30. c4 Ke6 31. Ke3 c6 (31... Rg2 32. b4
> axb4 33.
> axb4 Rh2 34. c5 Rxh3 35. cxd6 cxd6 36. Rb5 Rh1 37. Rxb6 h4 38. Rc6 Kd7
> 39. b5
> h3 40. Ra6 h2 41. b6 (41. Ra7+ Kc8 42. b6 Re1+ 43. Kd2 h1=Q 44. b7+
> Kb8) 41...
> Re1+ 42. Kd2 h1=Q 43. b7 Rd1+ 44. Kc2 Rc1+ 45. Kd2 Qd1+ 46. Ke3 Rc3#)
> 32. Rd1
> Rg2 33. Rh1 d5 34. cxd5+ cxd5 35. exd5+ Kxd5 36. Rd1+ Ke6 37. Rd8 Rh2
> 38. Rh8
> Rxh3 39. Rxh6+ Kd5 40. Rxb6 Kc5 41. Ra6 Kb5 42. Re6 Kc4 43. Rxe5) 29...
> b5 30.
> Rd1 Ke6 31. Ke3 Rg2 32. Rh1 c5 33. Ke2 b4 34. axb4 axb4 35. Kf1 Rg6 36.
> Rg1
> Rxg1+ 37. Kxg1 h4 38. Kf1 d5 39. Ke2 c4 (39... dxe4 40. fxe4 c4 41. f4
> exf4 42.
> b3 cxb3 43. cxb3 Ke5 44. Kf3 h5 45. Ke2 Kxe4 46. Kf2 Kd3 47. Kf3 Kc3
> 48. Kxf4
> Kxb3 49. Kg5 Kc2 50. Kxh5 b3 51. Kxh4 b2 52. Kg5 b1=Q 53. h4 Qg1+ 54.
> Kf6 Qg8
> 55. h5 Kd3 56. h6 Ke4 57. Ke7 Qh7+) 40. exd5+ Kxd5 41. Ke3 h5 42. c3 b3
> 43. f4
> exf4+ (43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5
> Kf7 49.
> f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52. Ke7) 44. Kxf4 Ke6 45. Kg5 Ke7 46. Kf5
> Ke8 47.
> Ke6 Kf8 48. f4 0-1
>

Date: 26 Nov 2006 10:11:19
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

John Evans wrote:
> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>
> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>
> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John
> http://growwithchess.com/

Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.

But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.

Regards,
http://chess-training.blogspot.com

Date: 26 Nov 2006 20:52:03
From: John Evans
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

I appreciate your input, but I disagree with your assessment of the post. I
did list why I failed which is the first step to fixing any problem, but
as a fellow chess player I'm sure you agree with doing this first. Also, I
thought for every problem I mentioned I gave a solution that has worked for
me. As for the accountability step, I believe you should look deep into
yourself and find whatever you have too in order to reach your goals. In
some cases that's the help of others. You grab motivation from wherever you
can get it.

In any event, I honestly appreciate that fact that you took the time to read
it and write me such a detailed response. I will look at checking the book
you suggested out from the library to see if I like it.

My goal is to improve and with your help and others here I know I will do
it.

Oh, I enjoy reading your post on your site that's what motivated me to post
my training schedule. Keep up the good work!

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> John Evans wrote:
>> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
>> chess.
>> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>>
>> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
>> site.
>> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> http://growwithchess.com/
>
> Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
> as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
> but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
> advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.
>
> But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
> and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
> commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
> but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
> 'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
> itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
> attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
> is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
> really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
> about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
> and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.
>
> Regards,
> http://chess-training.blogspot.com
>

Date: 26 Nov 2006 02:20:55
From: Matt Nemmers
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> > Ray himself has never be better than a 1900
>
> That's a lie.

Prove it.

Date: 25 Nov 2006 12:45:42
From:
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" ha escrito:

> > Thats good to hear. 2500 is much higher than my goal, but I'll take it if
> > it comes. Please keep on me so I don't slip.
>
> Well, getting to 2500 is about working st as well as hard. I always tell
> people that any time they can devote to chess on a regular basis is a good
> start for training.

Hello,

I think Ray comment is in the wrong way, to achieve 2500 can be a
fascinating target for a novice but can disapoint many people.

Ray himself has never be better than a 1900 and He never would be
better if He do not follow a "serious" training plan.

But as I have wrote some minutes ago, in my opinion the most important
fact is to enjoy playing chess and to understand a bit more.
Some facts:

- To be a 2500 player is very difficult (the are more cirurgians than
2500 players in the world).

- To be a 2500 player doing nothing more in life can lead to a hard
life. Tournaments or teaching chess maen not a big amount of money.
Unfortunately chess is not so popular than football or soccer.
Chess is only a fascinating hobbie and not a work for most players
rated 2300-2500 in the world.

ANTONIO

Date: 26 Nov 2006 05:02:50
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

> Ray himself has never be better than a 1900

That's a lie.

--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.

A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "AFCs pay my rent."

Date: 25 Nov 2006 06:10:09
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

I've seen people get to 2500 with less work.

That you do it consistently is a very good thing. If you improve a lot, you
can increase the hours to speed up the improvement.

"John Evans" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>
> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
> site. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>
> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John
> http://growwithchess.com/
>
>
>

Date: 25 Nov 2006 16:23:56
From: John Evans
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

Thats good to hear. 2500 is much higher than my goal, but I'll take it if it
comes. Please keep on me so I don't slip.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've seen people get to 2500 with less work.
>
> That you do it consistently is a very good thing. If you improve a lot,
> you can increase the hours to speed up the improvement.
>
>
> "John Evans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
>>chess.
>> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>>
>> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
>> site. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> http://growwithchess.com/
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Date: 25 Nov 2006 15:29:59
From: Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

> Thats good to hear. 2500 is much higher than my goal, but I'll take it if
> it
> comes. Please keep on me so I don't slip.

Well, getting to 2500 is about working st as well as hard. I always tell
people that any time they can devote to chess on a regular basis is a good
start for training.

Date: 25 Nov 2006 00:05:16
From:
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

John Evans

Why can't black people play in the WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP? What race
are you? Are you a white murderer (a Kirsan Ilyunzhhoiv thug) or are
you trying to strip children naked in front of a FIDE official, or a
Kirsan supporter trying to promote hate?

Why can't St Kitts and Nevis play in the World Chess Championship?

What goal is there when you WHITE RACISTS keep black peopel from
playing chess?

cus Roberts
President
St Kitts and Nevis national chess association
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

John Evans wrote:
> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>
> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>
> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John
> http://growwithchess.com/

Date: 25 Nov 2006 15:18:22
From: John Evans
Subject: Re: Achieving Your Chess Goals

Cut back on the coffee.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Evans
>
> Why can't black people play in the WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP? What race
> are you? Are you a white murderer (a Kirsan Ilyunzhhoiv thug) or are
> you trying to strip children naked in front of a FIDE official, or a
> Kirsan supporter trying to promote hate?
>
> Why can't St Kitts and Nevis play in the World Chess Championship?
>
> What goal is there when you WHITE RACISTS keep black peopel from
> playing chess?
>
> cus Roberts
> President
> St Kitts and Nevis national chess association
> Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
>
> John Evans wrote:
>> I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
>> chess.
>> If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.
>>
>> I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
>> site.
>> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/achieving-goals-chess-pursuit.html
>>
>> http://growwithchess.com/chess_training/chess_training_main.html
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> http://growwithchess.com/
>