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Date: 11 Oct 2006 04:50:23
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED

The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
The final match will be held in Las Vegas.

The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted over
two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
place on day two.

The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game matches,
possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the field
to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
November for the US Championship title.

Twelve players have qualified so far from qualifying tournaments.

They will be joined by the following:

The Western States Open, American Open, National Chess Congress and
North American Open will each qualify two players.

The following will be seeded: the 2006 US Champion, 2006 Grand Prix
winner, the top 3 by rating on the December 2006 list, and the 2006 US
Junior, US Senior, and US Women's champion.

Two more women will be seeded based on Dec 2006 rating, and another
woman's spot will be offered to the winner of an online women's
tournament for players rated 2100 or above. Note that the 2007 US
Championship will not determine the US Women's Champion, however four
women are being invited in order to provide experience and publicity
for our top women.

The usual online tournament of state champions will again be held and
will qualify one player.

Further details are expected to be available soon.

Bill Goichberg

..............

Bill Goichberg posted this on his own without consulting the board. I
am a member of the board and I was not informed of this until it was
posted on the USCF website. I do not understand how Bill had the right
to announce this without any vote having been taken by the board.

I am strongly opposed to the provision that some of the matches may
take place online.

I doubt that the players will agree to this format. Do any of our
grandmasters really want to play a two-game match for only $200?

Bill has been acting strangely lately. He seems to spend all his time
attacking me, neglecting the serious business of the federation.

Has something gone wrong with him?

I will vote no on this one, if a vote is ever taken. It seems that Bill
plans to go forward with this plan without even asking for approval by
the board.

Also, it appears that all but one of the qualifying tournaments is a
Bill Goichberg tournament.

The AF4C stated some months ago that they definitely will NOT be
holding the US Woman's Championship. Bill and the rest of the board has
known this all along, but does not want you to know this.

Sam Sloan

Date: 11 Oct 2006 15:20:27
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

Chess One wrote:

> "Mike Murray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 11 Oct 2006 09:14:35 -0700, "Javert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Sam Sloan wrote:
> >>> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
> >>>
> >>> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
> >>> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
> >>> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
> >>> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
> >>> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
> >>> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
> >>> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
> >>> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.
> >>>
> >>> The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
> >>> will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted over
> >>> two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
> >>> place on day two.
> >>>
> >>> The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game matches,
> >>> possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the field
> >>> to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
> >>> November for the US Championship title.
> >
> >> Is it April 1st already? This has to be a joke. This is the US
> >>Championship, it should be an event, all players at one location with
> >>the caaderie that provides.
>
> All 80,000 rated? Actually there are 10,000 rated by other parties than
> USCF, so 90k people, not exactlywoodstock, since who could aford wood sets
> these days -maybe Plastic-stock?
>
> >> Individual matches in local Elk's lodges
> >>will not increase spectator interest. We already can watch many many
> >>games at once on the internet via Monroi, ICC,Playchess etc.
>
> Well-fought draws with 30 GM comentators too!
>
> > But wait! There's more. Playoffs involve catching a greased pig
> > with only five minutes on the clock.
>
> I dunno about you, but greasing the pig in the first place is no gimme. Does
> the TD do it?
>
> > Players arm-wrestle for the
> > White pieces. If more than 200 rating points separate the opponents,
> > the higher rated must play with a paper bag over his head. Something
> > called "popularity points" can be traded for extra moves during the
> > game.
>
> If you touch a populat person are you obliged to move him/her? How do you
> prove your only jostled them accidentally?
>
> > And better yet, we've signed revenue sharing agreements with Murphy's
> > Pig Farm, Amalgamated Brazilian Paper Bag Mfg, Ltd, Beefy Boy Fitness
> > and Muscle-building Centers and an as yet unnamed TV reality show.
>
> I want that franchise! 1% to organiser, maybe 1.5.
>
> I thought it could be called, "Duffer-No?" or maybe "Chess-nutz". But my
> dog says that is 'like old dude' and suggests:
>
> Extreme-Twits
>
> Cordially, Phil's Dog & Phil

Innes and Dog,

You're not a USCF. I am and I am also a board member. You have no idea
what you're talking about. Your statistic is as good as my wife in bed.

Sam Sloan

Date: 11 Oct 2006 19:34:49
From: Ange1o DePa1ma
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

Whoever you are, I hope you choke on your vomit in your sleep.

"Sam Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Chess One wrote:
>
>> "Mike Murray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On 11 Oct 2006 09:14:35 -0700, "Javert" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sam Sloan wrote:
>> >>> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
>> >>>
>> >>> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
>> >>> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32
>> >>> players
>> >>> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
>> >>> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
>> >>> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will
>> >>> be
>> >>> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
>> >>> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played
>> >>> online.
>> >>> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.
>> >>>
>> >>> The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
>> >>> will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted
>> >>> over
>> >>> two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
>> >>> place on day two.
>> >>>
>> >>> The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game
>> >>> matches,
>> >>> possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the
>> >>> field
>> >>> to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
>> >>> November for the US Championship title.
>> >
>> >> Is it April 1st already? This has to be a joke. This is the US
>> >>Championship, it should be an event, all players at one location with
>> >>the caaderie that provides.
>>
>> All 80,000 rated? Actually there are 10,000 rated by other parties than
>> USCF, so 90k people, not exactlywoodstock, since who could aford wood
>> sets
>> these days -maybe Plastic-stock?
>>
>> >> Individual matches in local Elk's lodges
>> >>will not increase spectator interest. We already can watch many many
>> >>games at once on the internet via Monroi, ICC,Playchess etc.
>>
>> Well-fought draws with 30 GM comentators too!
>>
>> > But wait! There's more. Playoffs involve catching a greased pig
>> > with only five minutes on the clock.
>>
>> I dunno about you, but greasing the pig in the first place is no gimme.
>> Does
>> the TD do it?
>>
>> > Players arm-wrestle for the
>> > White pieces. If more than 200 rating points separate the opponents,
>> > the higher rated must play with a paper bag over his head. Something
>> > called "popularity points" can be traded for extra moves during the
>> > game.
>>
>> If you touch a populat person are you obliged to move him/her? How do you
>> prove your only jostled them accidentally?
>>
>> > And better yet, we've signed revenue sharing agreements with Murphy's
>> > Pig Farm, Amalgamated Brazilian Paper Bag Mfg, Ltd, Beefy Boy Fitness
>> > and Muscle-building Centers and an as yet unnamed TV reality show.
>>
>> I want that franchise! 1% to organiser, maybe 1.5.
>>
>> I thought it could be called, "Duffer-No?" or maybe "Chess-nutz". But my
>> dog says that is 'like old dude' and suggests:
>>
>> Extreme-Twits
>>
>> Cordially, Phil's Dog & Phil
>
> Innes and Dog,
>
> You're not a USCF. I am and I am also a board member. You have no idea
> what you're talking about. Your statistic is as good as my wife in bed.
>
> Sam Sloan
>

Date: 11 Oct 2006 15:20:25
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

Date: 11 Oct 2006 15:20:23
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

Date: 11 Oct 2006 15:43:48
From: Ange1o DePa1ma
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

"Sam Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
>
> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.

Please, someone tell me this is all a sick joke. It's bad enough they invite
A players, a few token women, a paraplegic, a transexual, and a host of
other unqualified, untitled, untalented individuals with no chance of
winning (and if they did win, what an embarassment that would be). Now
they're screwing with the format.

Two game "matches" indeed. Everyone will be playing scared after the patzers
are eliminated in the first round because almost anything can happen in a
two game match. And what tiebreakers have they concocted? A puking contest?

The only explanation is AF4Chess is running out of money. And how do USCF's
finances figure in this?

If FIDE itself were not such a colossal joke we would be a laughingstock.

Date: 11 Oct 2006 09:14:35
From: Javert
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

Sam Sloan wrote:
> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
>
> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.
>
> The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
> will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted over
> two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
> place on day two.
>
> The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game matches,
> possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the field
> to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
> November for the US Championship title.
>
<snip >

Is it April 1st already? This has to be a joke. This is the US
Championship, it should be an event, all players at one location with
the caaderie that provides. Individual matches in local Elk's lodges
will not increase spectator interest. We already can watch many many
games at once on the internet via Monroi, ICC,Playchess etc.

Date: 11 Oct 2006 12:33:18
From: Mike Murray
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

On 11 Oct 2006 09:14:35 -0700, "Javert" <[email protected] > wrote:

>Sam Sloan wrote:
>> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
>>
>> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
>> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
>> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
>> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
>> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
>> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
>> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
>> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.
>>
>> The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
>> will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted over
>> two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
>> place on day two.
>>
>> The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game matches,
>> possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the field
>> to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
>> November for the US Championship title.

> Is it April 1st already? This has to be a joke. This is the US
>Championship, it should be an event, all players at one location with
>the caaderie that provides. Individual matches in local Elk's lodges
>will not increase spectator interest. We already can watch many many
>games at once on the internet via Monroi, ICC,Playchess etc.

But wait! There's more. Playoffs involve catching a greased pig
with only five minutes on the clock. Players arm-wrestle for the
White pieces. If more than 200 rating points separate the opponents,
the higher rated must play with a paper bag over his head. Something
called "popularity points" can be traded for extra moves during the
game.

And better yet, we've signed revenue sharing agreements with Murphy's
Pig Farm, Amalgamated Brazilian Paper Bag Mfg, Ltd, Beefy Boy Fitness
and Muscle-building Centers and an as yet unnamed TV reality show.

Date: 11 Oct 2006 20:09:52
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

"Mike Murray" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 11 Oct 2006 09:14:35 -0700, "Javert" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Sam Sloan wrote:
>>> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
>>>
>>> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
>>> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
>>> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
>>> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
>>> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
>>> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
>>> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
>>> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.
>>>
>>> The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
>>> will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted over
>>> two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
>>> place on day two.
>>>
>>> The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game matches,
>>> possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the field
>>> to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
>>> November for the US Championship title.
>
>> Is it April 1st already? This has to be a joke. This is the US
>>Championship, it should be an event, all players at one location with
>>the caaderie that provides.

All 80,000 rated? Actually there are 10,000 rated by other parties than
USCF, so 90k people, not exactlywoodstock, since who could aford wood sets
these days -maybe Plastic-stock?

>> Individual matches in local Elk's lodges
>>will not increase spectator interest. We already can watch many many
>>games at once on the internet via Monroi, ICC,Playchess etc.

Well-fought draws with 30 GM comentators too!

> But wait! There's more. Playoffs involve catching a greased pig
> with only five minutes on the clock.

I dunno about you, but greasing the pig in the first place is no gimme. Does
the TD do it?

> Players arm-wrestle for the
> White pieces. If more than 200 rating points separate the opponents,
> the higher rated must play with a paper bag over his head. Something
> called "popularity points" can be traded for extra moves during the
> game.

If you touch a populat person are you obliged to move him/her? How do you
prove your only jostled them accidentally?

> And better yet, we've signed revenue sharing agreements with Murphy's
> Pig Farm, Amalgamated Brazilian Paper Bag Mfg, Ltd, Beefy Boy Fitness
> and Muscle-building Centers and an as yet unnamed TV reality show.

I want that franchise! 1% to organiser, maybe 1.5.

I thought it could be called, "Duffer-No?" or maybe "Chess-nutz". But my
dog says that is 'like old dude' and suggests:

Extreme-Twits

Cordially, Phil's Dog & Phil

Date: 11 Oct 2006 06:40:13
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

The above posting was made by the Fake Sam Sloan, or perhaps I should
say one of the Fake Sam Sloans, because it seems possible that there
are two different fake Sam Sloans posting now.

However, even though the poster is fake, the posting is real. I did
actually wrote that. The Fake Sam Sloan obviously copied it from
another forum where I really did post it and reposted it here.

This may provide an important clue to find out who the Fake Sam Sloan
is. My posting was at 12:43 AM. Mike Nolan, the moderator, is able to
see every person who read my posting in the few hours between the time
I posted it there and the time the Fake Sam Sloan reposted it here.

The Real Sam Sloan

Date: 11 Oct 2006 04:56:04
From:
Subject: Re: AF4C and Bill Goichberg are ruining chess

Sam

Why are they KO matches? How far up FIDE ass do you want to sniff?

Don't you think Bill Goichber is lining his pockets, as I wrote in the
1994 issue of Chess Life?

How much money is Goicberg going to make using his executive committee
seat for himself?

cus Roberts

Sam Sloan wrote:
> 2007 US CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS ANNOUNCED
>
> The 2007 US Championship, organized by America's Foundation for Chess
> in cooperation with the US Chess Federation, will consist of 32 players
> who will play knockout matches. To maximize spectator interest, each
> match will be broadcast live on the internet and only one or two
> matches will be held per day. It is expected that most matches will be
> held in the home area of one of the players, though some may be held
> elsewhere, such as at major tournaments. Matches may be played online.
> The final match will be held in Las Vegas.
>
> The first three rounds of KO matches will commence in ch, and each
> will match will consist of two games. Each match will be conducted over
> two days; one game per day. Tie-breaks, if necessary, will also take
> place on day two.
>
> The fourth and final preliminary round will involve four game matches,
> possibly played at the US Open. This final round will reduce the field
> to two players. These two finalists will play a match in Las Vegas in
> November for the US Championship title.
>
> Twelve players have qualified so far from qualifying tournaments.
>
> They will be joined by the following:
>
> The Western States Open, American Open, National Chess Congress and
> North American Open will each qualify two players.
>
> The following will be seeded: the 2006 US Champion, 2006 Grand Prix
> winner, the top 3 by rating on the December 2006 list, and the 2006 US
> Junior, US Senior, and US Women's champion.
>
> Two more women will be seeded based on Dec 2006 rating, and another
> woman's spot will be offered to the winner of an online women's
> tournament for players rated 2100 or above. Note that the 2007 US
> Championship will not determine the US Women's Champion, however four
> women are being invited in order to provide experience and publicity
> for our top women.
>
> The usual online tournament of state champions will again be held and
> will qualify one player.
>
> Further details are expected to be available soon.
>
> Bill Goichberg
>
> ..............
>
>
> Bill Goichberg posted this on his own without consulting the board. I
> am a member of the board and I was not informed of this until it was
> posted on the USCF website. I do not understand how Bill had the right
> to announce this without any vote having been taken by the board.
>
> I am strongly opposed to the provision that some of the matches may
> take place online.
>
> I doubt that the players will agree to this format. Do any of our
> grandmasters really want to play a two-game match for only $200?
>
> Bill has been acting strangely lately. He seems to spend all his time
> attacking me, neglecting the serious business of the federation.
>
> Has something gone wrong with him?
>
> I will vote no on this one, if a vote is ever taken. It seems that Bill
> plans to go forward with this plan without even asking for approval by
> the board.
>
> Also, it appears that all but one of the qualifying tournaments is a
> Bill Goichberg tournament.
>
> The AF4C stated some months ago that they definitely will NOT be
> holding the US Woman's Championship. Bill and the rest of the board has
> known this all along, but does not want you to know this.
>
> Sam Sloan