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Date: 08 Oct 2006 19:49:57
From: Vasileios Zografos
Subject: chess program
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Hi there. I am looking for a chess program to help me improve my game. I
want something that will have good analysis capabilities and will
explain why a move is better than the other so I can understand.
Something similar to Chessmaster 10 which has a pretty good game
analysis feature and its very easy to understand where you went wrong.
The only problem with CM10 is that its quite weak (compared with other
software) so the lines that it suggests are not always the best. For
example, Chessmaster lost all games in a 3-games match between CM and
Chessgenius. It fared a little bit better with Fritz 8.
So, can anyone recommend something that can appeal to the novice players
in here where justification of why a move is chosen over another is very
important.
Thank you
VZ
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:39:48
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: chess program
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Vasileios Zografos <[email protected] > wrote:
> Hi there. I am looking for a chess program to help me improve my
> game. I want something that will have good analysis capabilities and
> will explain why a move is better than the other so I can
> understand.
It doesnt exist, sorry. The computers are very good at pointing out
tactical errors but they can't `explain' why moves are good unless
they win material.
You need a good book or a human coach. What counts as a `good book'
will depend on your level.
Dave.
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Date: 09 Oct 2006 04:29:16
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Play Chess Online at GetClub.com
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> Vasileios Zografos wrote:
> > Hi there. I am looking for a chess program to help me improve my game. I
> > want something that will have good analysis capabilities and will
Sanny wrote:
> Your Games will be recorded and anyone can give full analysis of your
> Game once you have played it.
In other words, his site doesn't analyze your games at all.
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Date: 09 Oct 2006 19:34:19
From: Vasileios Zografos
Subject: Re: Play Chess Online at GetClub.com
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[email protected] wrote:
> In other words, his site doesn't analyze your games at all.
:)
have to say....I liked Chessmaster 10. Although the engine was shite
(too good for me, but bad compared with other engines) it did have a
very good tactical post-game analysis. A decent opening book and quite a
few endings. It is more a game than a computer chess program. Still...
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Date: 09 Oct 2006 04:19:06
From: Sanny
Subject: Play Chess Online at GetClub.com
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Vasileios Zografos wrote:
> Hi there. I am looking for a chess program to help me improve my game. I
> want something that will have good analysis capabilities and will
You may play Chess Online at GetClub.com
http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
It is free to play. It has 5 levels
Beginner Level for most people
Easy Level for Tough Players
Normal Level for very Good Players.
Your Games will be recorded and anyone can give full analysis of your
Game once you have played it.
I love to see people being beaten by GetClub Game.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 16:06:01
From: Dave (from the UK)
Subject: Re: Play Chess Online at GetClub.com
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Sanny wrote:
> It is free to play. It has 5 levels
>
> Beginner Level for most people
Beginner Level for patient people.
> Easy Level for Tough Players
Easy level, for those that like to watch paint dry.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:38:20
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Play Chess Online at GetClub.com
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Dave (from the UK) <[email protected] > wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
>> Beginner Level for most people
> Beginner Level for patient people.
>
>> Easy Level for Tough Players
> Easy level, for those that like to watch paint dry.
``Master level, for when paint just isn't enough.''
Dave.
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covered in salt!
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Hi Zografos,
> The only problem with CM10 is that its quite weak (compared with other
> software) so the lines that it suggests are not always the best. For
> example, Chessmaster lost all games in a 3-games match between CM and
> Chessgenius. It fared a little bit better with Fritz 8.
According to the ratings list, CM10 = 2736 ELO. Rybka 2.1 (pay) tops
the rating lists at 3000-3100 ELO.
> So, can anyone recommend something that can appeal to the novice players
> in here where justification of why a move is chosen over another is very
> important.
There are two types of positions: (1) tactical--there's a knight fork,
a hanging piece, or a mate-in-3 and (2) positional--you're looking for
the best squares for your pieces.
Chess computers are phenomenal at tactics. In tactical positions, CM10,
Rybka, Fritz, etc will all find and tell you the right continuation.
Chess computers are... mediocre or intermediate at positions. You don't
want to emulate their choices in that realm. A positional chess book
like "The Amateur Mind" or some annotated games from Chernev's "Logical
Chess: Move by Move" will serve you better.
Rybka's extra stength is useful for me, because I'm studying endgames.
In that area it's stronger than other engines--it even tries for
swindles in drawn positions.
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