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Date: 29 Oct 2005 00:28:42
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Where'd this come from? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. Nc3?!
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I call it the "English Center Counter." White seems to get close to
equality if he plays well, but why do so many people play this now? I never
saw it in the 1980s but now I see even masters using it.
Who is responsible for this?
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Date: 02 Nov 2005 05:41:55
From: The Man Behind The Curtain
Subject: Re: Where'd this come from? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. Nc3?!
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Ray Gordon wrote:
> I call it the "English Center Counter." White seems to get close to
> equality if he plays well, but why do so many people play this now? I never
> saw it in the 1980s but now I see even masters using it.
>
> Who is responsible for this?
[raises hand]
Me.
John
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Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
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Date: 29 Oct 2005 08:47:49
From:
Subject: Re: Where'd this come from? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. Nc3?!
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Ray Gordon wrote:
> I call it the "English Center Counter." White seems to get close to
> equality if he plays well, but why do so many people play this now? I never
> saw it in the 1980s but now I see even masters using it.
> Who is responsible for this?
The 2005 CB MegaBase shows close to 100 examples of 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5
3.Nc3, starting with Rabar - De Souza Mendez, Rio de Janeiro 1952. I
noticed few if any major names among those playing it as White. Its
track record looks rather poor, with Black scoring about +63 -18 =15,
according to the database.
It's not in The Oxford Companion's list of openings, so I don't even
know what formal name it has, if any.
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Date: 29 Oct 2005 09:43:17
From: Tony Mountifield
Subject: Re: Where'd this come from? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. Nc3?!
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In article <[email protected] >,
Ray Gordon <[email protected] > wrote:
> I call it the "English Center Counter." White seems to get close to
> equality if he plays well, but why do so many people play this now? I never
> saw it in the 1980s but now I see even masters using it.
>
> Who is responsible for this?
Is it possibly in order to avoid the Benko Gambit?
Cheers
Tony
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Tony Mountifield
Work: [email protected] - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: [email protected] - http://tony.mountifield.org
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Date: 29 Oct 2005 14:39:11
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Where'd this come from? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. Nc3?!
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>> I call it the "English Center Counter." White seems to get close to
>> equality if he plays well, but why do so many people play this now? I
>> never
>> saw it in the 1980s but now I see even masters using it.
>>
>> Who is responsible for this?
>
> Is it possibly in order to avoid the Benko Gambit?
So White gives me a quarter-pawn advantage on move three all because I
*might* play the Benko against him?
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Date: 29 Oct 2005 15:50:01
From: Tony Mountifield
Subject: Re: Where'd this come from? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. Nc3?!
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In article <[email protected] >,
Ray Gordon <[email protected] > wrote:
> >> I call it the "English Center Counter." White seems to get close to
> >> equality if he plays well, but why do so many people play this now? I
> >> never
> >> saw it in the 1980s but now I see even masters using it.
> >>
> >> Who is responsible for this?
> >
> > Is it possibly in order to avoid the Benko Gambit?
>
> So White gives me a quarter-pawn advantage on move three all because I
> *might* play the Benko against him?
Dunno, just a guess...
How do you calculate a quarter-pawn advantage?
Cheers
Tony
--
Tony Mountifield
Work: [email protected] - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: [email protected] - http://tony.mountifield.org
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