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Date: 10 Jul 2005 23:46:14
From: News
Subject: Understanding openings

Hello! Could you please tell me if there are sites that help with complete
and detailed openings analysis? especially e4 and d4 .. Thanks

Date: 10 Jul 2005 17:37:11
From:
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

The best place for introductory opening material that I know of is the
Exeter Chess Club site, one of the best free instructional sites on the
Web. The link to Exeter's opening material is:

http://info.ex.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/openings.html

For more detailed analysis of specific openings, there is a huge and
well-organized collection of links to opening analysis at:

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/links/opening_analysis.html

For messageboard forums containing numerous discussions of current
theory in various openings, try the forums associated with
ChessPublishing.com located at:

http://altmax.com/cgi-local/cpf/YaBB.cgi

- Geof Strayer

Date: 11 Jul 2005 16:09:43
From: News
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

Thanks for the interesting links! I'm looking for opening analysis to
understand not only theoretical variants but bad ones to take advantages
from opponent's mistakes. A friend of mine who's FIDE master told me that
there are encyclopedias named E4, D4 etc. which explain it all. It takes 2 /
3 years to study each of them. Do you know about these encyclopedias and if
there is such content on the web?

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The best place for introductory opening material that I know of is the
> Exeter Chess Club site, one of the best free instructional sites on the
> Web. The link to Exeter's opening material is:
>
> http://info.ex.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/openings.html
>
> For more detailed analysis of specific openings, there is a huge and
> well-organized collection of links to opening analysis at:
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/links/opening_analysis.html
>
> For messageboard forums containing numerous discussions of current
> theory in various openings, try the forums associated with
> ChessPublishing.com located at:
>
> http://altmax.com/cgi-local/cpf/YaBB.cgi
>
>
> - Geof Strayer
>

Date: 15 Jul 2005 06:40:45
From: Terry
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

"News" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the interesting links! I'm looking for opening analysis to
> understand not only theoretical variants but bad ones to take advantages
> from opponent's mistakes. A friend of mine who's FIDE master told me that
> there are encyclopedias named E4, D4 etc. which explain it all. It takes 2
> / 3 years to study each of them. Do you know about these encyclopedias and
> if there is such content on the web?
>

Dont bother. You dont need all this opening knowledge. It isnt
opening knowledge that makes your friend an FM.

Regards

Date: 16 Jul 2005 04:24:03
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

Date: 12 Jul 2005 02:28:47
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

In article <[email protected] >,
"News" <[email protected] > wrote:

> Thanks for the interesting links! I'm looking for opening analysis to
> understand not only theoretical variants but bad ones to take advantages
> from opponent's mistakes. A friend of mine who's FIDE master told me that
> there are encyclopedias named E4, D4 etc. which explain it all. It takes 2 /
> 3 years to study each of them. Do you know about these encyclopedias and if
> there is such content on the web?

There is some rather complex material on the web, but most of the
intense stuff you have to pay for.

The books your talking about are called the Encyclopedia of Chess
Openings, or ECO for short.

Bear in mind that they're almost useless for the average player, however.

-Ron

Date: 12 Jul 2005 11:32:11
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

>>Thanks for the interesting links! I'm looking for opening analysis to
>> understand not only theoretical variants but bad ones to take advantages
>> from opponent's mistakes. A friend of mine who's FIDE master told me that
>> there are encyclopedias named E4, D4 etc. which explain it all. It takes
>> 2 /
>> 3 years to study each of them. Do you know about these encyclopedias and
>> if
>> there is such content on the web?
>
> There is some rather complex material on the web, but most of the
> intense stuff you have to pay for.
>
> The books your talking about are called the Encyclopedia of Chess
> Openings, or ECO for short.
>
> Bear in mind that they're almost useless for the average player, however.

Another myth: ECO helps average players become strong players.

There's no excuse for playing the opening weak, especially in this era.

Today's strong players have personal repertoires programmed into their
engines and train against them.

Date: 15 Jul 2005 06:41:44
From: Terry
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

"Ray Gordon" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
>>>Thanks for the interesting links! I'm looking for opening analysis to
>>> understand not only theoretical variants but bad ones to take advantages
>>> from opponent's mistakes. A friend of mine who's FIDE master told me
>>> that
>>> there are encyclopedias named E4, D4 etc. which explain it all. It takes
>>> 2 /
>>> 3 years to study each of them. Do you know about these encyclopedias and
>>> if
>>> there is such content on the web?
>>
>> There is some rather complex material on the web, but most of the
>> intense stuff you have to pay for.
>>
>> The books your talking about are called the Encyclopedia of Chess
>> Openings, or ECO for short.
>>
>> Bear in mind that they're almost useless for the average player, however.
>
> Another myth: ECO helps average players become strong players.
>
> There's no excuse for playing the opening weak, especially in this era.
>
> Today's strong players have personal repertoires programmed into their
> engines and train against them.
>
>
>
You always talk a load of old bollocks.

Date: 12 Jul 2005 16:18:02
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

In article <%[email protected] >, "Ray Gordon"
<[email protected] > wrote:

How glad we are to know that the chess mafia has not done Gordon Roy
Parker bodily harm so that he may continue to share his wisdom.

> Today's strong players have personal repertoires programmed into their
> engines and train against them.

Which strong players do that? Did they write that somewhere?

--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061

Date: 14 Jul 2005 07:44:42
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

I didn't leave this group.

This is an on-topic, chess group with on-topic questions.

Date: 13 Jul 2005 23:54:35
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

>> Today's strong players have personal repertoires programmed into their
>> engines and train against them.
>
> Which strong players do that? Did they write that somewhere?

Kasparov claimed to have over 17,000 separate lines punched into Fritz.

You remember him: the guy rated over 2800.

In his prime, Fischer was booked up to move 10 in some lines, and as far as
move 17-20 in others. He played a very narrow repertoire which ensured that
he always played something he knew. He was weak against the Winawer and the
Caro-Kan, as well as the Rubenstein French, however.

The strongest opening player of the 20th century was probably Yefim Geller,
who also wrote "The Application of Chess Theory," which may be the best
instructional chess book ever written.

Date: 14 Jul 2005 01:53:41
From: Frisco Del Rosario
Subject: Re: Understanding openings

In article <%[email protected] >, "Ray Gordon"
<[email protected] > wrote:

> >> Today's strong players have personal repertoires programmed into their
> >> engines and train against them.
> >
> > Which strong players do that? Did they write that somewhere?

> Kasparov claimed to have over 17,000 separate lines punched into Fritz.

> In his prime, Fischer

> The strongest opening player of the 20th century was probably Yefim Geller,

First Gordon Roy Parker writes "Today's strong players", and then when
asked for examples, he provides two retired guys and a dead guy.
Nonetheless, I am glad he is back.

--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061