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Date: 28 May 2007 07:07:16
From: samsloan
Subject: Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"
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[quote="Brian Mottershead"]But Susan apparently doesn't even see the issue. If her reaction weren't part of her usual pattern of "I'm always right and harder-working than everybody else so if the USCF ever disagrees with me, it is because they a are a bunch of corrupt stupid people playing politics" it could be easily solved, and I probably wouldn't even be commenting. She has already commented on this particular question on her blog and has taken exactly that line. Susan Polgar's open disrespect for the USCF is one of the main reasons that people should vote against her.[/quote] I see what you mean. Her comments are here: http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2007/05/success-of-china-and-demise-of-us.html Her blog contains an amazing number of false statements even by the standards of Susan. By the way, she quotes me directly without attribution. Among her many false and misleading statements is: "No board member has spoken to me about this." The board is not supposed to talk to Susan about this. That is the job of the Executive Director and he has spoken to her about this. That is how I know about it. I wonder how many readers can see through her false statements. Judging by the comments she has allowed on her forum thus far, none of them have. Of course, it is well known that Susan will delete any comment with which she disagrees. I would think that any person of average intelligence would see that Susan Polgar running her own private tournament and calling it the "National Chess Championship" is a problem, in that it conflicts with the REAL US Chess Championship won last week by Shabalov. Also, Susan says that the "Evil Chess Politicians" refused to pay bonuses to the 2004 Womans Olympiad team. The bonuses of $20,000 were paid over a year ago. Actually, I do not think they were owed any bonuses by the USCF. The Kasparov Chess Foundation was the sponsor of her team, not the USCF. I have asked the USCF office for documentation about this and received nothing. Apparently, it is in the landfill. If there was such a contract, Susan should produce it. I do not believe that the contract exists. Susan says on her blog that we are trying to "prevent" players from participating in her "National Chess Championship". The USCF is doing no such thing. Anybody foolish enough to think that her tournament is a real national chess championship is free to play. However, the USCF will not rate her event or advertise her tournament in Chess Life. Sam Sloan
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Date: 29 May 2007 12:30:29
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"
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On May 28, 11:30 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Last year she called it the "Susan Polgar World Championship". > > Take a look athttp://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200606187731 > > FIDE must have been surprised to learn that we have a new World > Champion. > > I imagine that most readers realize that Susan's event was not the > REAL World Championship. > > As to the great service she does to chess by running these events, > note that she charges entry fees ranging from $30 well in advance to > $60 at the site. The prizes she awards consist of trophies, gift > certificates, books by Susan Polgar, DVDs by Susan Polgar and other > give away and promotional items. > > The rest is pure profit. > > Apparently, not many were fooled because last year her "World > Championship" drew only 72 players. > > I have no objection to Susan making money from running chess > tournaments. The poor girl needs money. However, she should use other > names for her tournaments rather than calling them the "World > Championship" and "National Championship". > > Sam Sloan Yes, I see what you mean Sam, but you're a dumbass. 72 is not bad for an all-girls event. Oops! Forget about that? You probably get all confused about all the different "Pro Wrestling" Federation world champions as well. I vote to rename the FIDE title to 'SPWC'. "Susan Polgar World Championship"
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Date: 28 May 2007 16:18:10
From: progea
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"
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On May 28, 11:30 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Last year she called it the "Susan Polgar World Championship". > > Take a look athttp://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200606187731 > > FIDE must have been surprised to learn that we have a new World > Champion. > > I imagine that most readers realize that Susan's event was not the > REAL World Championship. > > As to the great service she does to chess by running these events, > note that she charges entry fees ranging from $30 well in advance to > $60 at the site. The prizes she awards consist of trophies, gift > certificates, books by Susan Polgar, DVDs by Susan Polgar and other > give away and promotional items. > > The rest is pure profit. > > Apparently, not many were fooled because last year her "World > Championship" drew only 72 players. > > I have no objection to Susan making money from running chess > tournaments. The poor girl needs money. However, she should use other > names for her tournaments rather than calling them the "World > Championship" and "National Championship". > > Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 May 2007 08:30:59
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"
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Last year she called it the "Susan Polgar World Championship". Take a look at http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200606187731 FIDE must have been surprised to learn that we have a new World Champion. I imagine that most readers realize that Susan's event was not the REAL World Championship. As to the great service she does to chess by running these events, note that she charges entry fees ranging from $30 well in advance to $60 at the site. The prizes she awards consist of trophies, gift certificates, books by Susan Polgar, DVDs by Susan Polgar and other give away and promotional items. The rest is pure profit. Apparently, not many were fooled because last year her "World Championship" drew only 72 players. I have no objection to Susan making money from running chess tournaments. The poor girl needs money. However, she should use other names for her tournaments rather than calling them the "World Championship" and "National Championship". Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 May 2007 14:34:47
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"
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Her blog contains an amazing number of false statements even by the standards of Susan. By the way, she quotes me directly without attribution. Among her many false and misleading statements is: "No board member has spoken to me about this." The board is not supposed to talk to Susan about this. **In other words - or actually the same ones, it is not a false statement :) That is the job of the Executive Director and he has spoken to her about this. That is how I know about it. **'Spoken' and 'about'? **I would think its useful to know if the USCF board have made a claim to the word 'national' or 'world' and if they have put that into writing, and if /that/ is what any USCF-related partnership makes as a condition of such partnership? I would think that any person of average intelligence would see that Susan Polgar running her own private tournament and calling it the "National Chess Championship" is a problem, in that it conflicts with the REAL US Chess Championship won last week by Shabalov. **Unfortunately USCF can't have it both ways - since Eric is always saying USCF is a BRAND of chess, and it has 'properties' and so on - what is different in USCF's behavior to any other 'brand'? **Unless, of course, USCF states and can prove that its constitution grants it a monopoly on chess - but I think that would get it into more formal trouble than it already has with its own mission statement - A document mostly winked at. Also, Susan says that the "Evil Chess Politicians" refused to pay bonuses to the 2004 Womans Olympiad team. The bonuses of $20,000 were paid over a year ago. Actually, I do not think they were owed any bonuses by the USCF. The Kasparov Chess Foundation was the sponsor of her team, not the USCF. I have asked the USCF office for documentation about this and received nothing. Apparently, it is in the landfill. If there was such a contract, Susan should produce it. I do not believe that the contract exists. **Sam Sloan states that he can't find the contract, nor any record of it, which doesn't even lodge itself in the accounts department who nevertheless paid up on it after several years. His 'belief' extends to doubting its existance, but not as far as to actually inquire of the organisation itself why it was paid? Surely someone must have instructed payment? Susan says on her blog that we are trying to "prevent" players from participating in her "National Chess Championship". The USCF is doing no such thing. Anybody foolish enough to think that her tournament is a real national chess championship is free to play. However, the USCF will not rate her event or advertise her tournament in Chess Life. **I think this is fair enough. And it is also absolutely clear that USCF is a brand-name organiser operating an illegal monopoly under the guise of being a non-profit organisation to promote chess. It acts like a for-profit organisation to suppress chess. **As a non-organisation based reporter, our publisher intends to promote our own TLA section, to make it FREE, and we already reach more US chess players everyweek than USCF does. Our idea is basically to supprot chess by letting people know what's going on where and when, which we think will keep the active ones in the game. I know this is an entirely radical idea, but hey... Phil Innes ------ Sam Sloan
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Date: 28 May 2007 07:13:40
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"
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I'm jealous of her success and I'll screw things up for her before I'm out of the office in 2 months. She's Hungarian. We're an American federation. We don't need any stinking Hungarian or Russian to run this federation. They should all go back to where they're from. The USCF shouldn't allow any non American born to be members or run for office. It's time Goichberg, Channing, Schultz, Lux, Jones, Goodall and I take a stance. We're white and we're men. We should run things. Vote for Sloan, Goodall, Lux and Jones!
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