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Date: 22 Oct 2005 16:42:22
From: Bernard Liang
Subject: Responses with black against 1. d4
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So not long after I began playing competitively, I've adopted the Dutch
Defense (1. ...f5) as a bread-and-butter response to 1. d4, and though
it is better to know well the openings one does play, I think it is
about high time I learned some other lines, seeing that my USCF has gone
up from 1200s to 1800s. I would like to say that my style is positional
(despite my inferior positional ability). Maybe something along the
lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments appreciated.
-B. Liang
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Date: 28 Oct 2005 23:06:12
From: Gilbert Rebhan
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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Bernard Liang wrote:
> So not long after I began playing competitively, I've adopted the Dutch
> Defense (1. ...f5) as a bread-and-butter response to 1. d4, and though
> it is better to know well the openings one does play, I think it is
> about high time I learned some other lines, seeing that my USCF has gone
> up from 1200s to 1800s. I would like to say that my style is positional
> (despite my inferior positional ability). Maybe something along the
> lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments appreciated.
>
> -B. Liang
>
1.- Nc6 or
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Nc6 which is called
The Black Knight Tango
and also the Tchigorin Defence
1.d4 d5 2.c4 Nc6
All Nc6 related openings are working good in
practice vs. 1.d4 and 1.e4
Regards, Gilbert
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Date: 28 Oct 2005 16:46:11
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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Bernard Liang <[email protected] > wrote:
> Maybe something along the lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments
> appreciated.
The Slav can get very tactical and the KID is often very sharp. The
queen's pawn openings that seem to me to be most positional in style are
things like the QGD, Queen's Indian and Nimzo-Indian. The Nimzo can get a
bit hairy, too, if you let it, though.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Enormous Fluorescent Gnome (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a smiling garden ornament but
it'll hurt your eyes and it's huge!
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Date: 28 Oct 2005 01:56:23
From: Alain Dekker
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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Its a matter of taste. The Dutch is still a good choice, though, because its
a chameleon. The Leningrad, Stonewall and Classical are all quite different
in nature. Another advantage is that there are fewer whacky sidelines to
deal with! :o)
However, all the openings are good. Try 'em out on the internet and get a
feel for whether you like it. Then give it a go over the board. Its a good
idea to change your openings occasionally because it keep you fresh and
hungry.
Alain
"Bernard Liang" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So not long after I began playing competitively, I've adopted the Dutch
> Defense (1. ...f5) as a bread-and-butter response to 1. d4, and though
> it is better to know well the openings one does play, I think it is
> about high time I learned some other lines, seeing that my USCF has gone
> up from 1200s to 1800s. I would like to say that my style is positional
> (despite my inferior positional ability). Maybe something along the
> lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments appreciated.
>
> -B. Liang
>
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Date: 24 Oct 2005 23:26:53
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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> So not long after I began playing competitively, I've adopted the Dutch
> Defense (1. ...f5) as a bread-and-butter response to 1. d4, and though
> it is better to know well the openings one does play, I think it is
> about high time I learned some other lines, seeing that my USCF has gone
> up from 1200s to 1800s. I would like to say that my style is positional
> (despite my inferior positional ability). Maybe something along the
> lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments appreciated.
I prefer 1...Nf6 against 1. d4, usually going into a Benoni/Benko or English
symmetrical with 3. Nf3.
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Date: 23 Oct 2005 12:53:19
From: Arfur Million
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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"Bernard Liang" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So not long after I began playing competitively, I've adopted the Dutch
> Defense (1. ...f5) as a bread-and-butter response to 1. d4, and though
> it is better to know well the openings one does play, I think it is
> about high time I learned some other lines, seeing that my USCF has gone
> up from 1200s to 1800s. I would like to say that my style is positional
> (despite my inferior positional ability). Maybe something along the
> lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments appreciated.
>
> -B. Liang
>
It is a very difficult thing to recommend an opening for another player. If
you wish to continue in positional vein, how about the Nimzo-Indian (and
Queen's Indian)? On the other hand, if you're trying to expand your horizons
and get quite different positions from those arising in the Dutch, you could
consider something like the Gruenfeld.
Regards,
Arfur
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Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:12:33
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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In article <[email protected] >,
"Arfur Million" <[email protected] > wrote:
> It is a very difficult thing to recommend an opening for another player.
Yeah. Really the only thing to do is to play through a couple of dozen
games in a variety of different openings and see what appeals to you.
Anything "major" has tons of advocates. They're all good. It's really
about taste.
-Ron
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Date: 23 Oct 2005 15:13:06
From: Leopold
Subject: Re: Responses with black against 1. d4
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"Arfur Million" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bernard Liang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> So not long after I began playing competitively, I've adopted the Dutch
>> Defense (1. ...f5) as a bread-and-butter response to 1. d4, and though
>> it is better to know well the openings one does play, I think it is
>> about high time I learned some other lines, seeing that my USCF has gone
>> up from 1200s to 1800s. I would like to say that my style is positional
>> (despite my inferior positional ability). Maybe something along the
>> lines of Slav/Semi-Slav, or KID? Comments appreciated.
>>
>> -B. Liang
>>
>
> It is a very difficult thing to recommend an opening for another player.
> If you wish to continue in positional vein, how about the Nimzo-Indian
> (and Queen's Indian)? On the other hand, if you're trying to expand your
> horizons and get quite different positions from those arising in the
> Dutch, you could consider something like the Gruenfeld.
>
> Regards,
> Arfur
>
Another possibility is the Chigorin Defense 1.d4 d5 2.c4 Nc6
Leopold
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