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Date: 18 Mar 2007 01:33:45
From: Sanny
Subject: Please Analyze this Game.
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Here is a game between me and GetClub which I won. What do you say
about this game.
White Myself
Black Beginner
Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
1.e2-e4 e7-e6
2.d2-d4 d7-d5
3.e4xd5 e6xd5
4.c2-c4 Bf8-b4+
5.Bc1-d2 Qd8-e7+
6.Qd1-e2 Bb4xd2+
7.Nb1xd2 Qe7xe2+
8.Bf1xe2 d5xc4
9.Be2xc4 Ng8-f6
10.Ng1-f3 Ke8-g8
11.Nf3-e5 Bc8-e6
12.Bc4xe6 f7xe6
13.Ke1-g1 Nf6-d5
14.Nd2-e4 Nb8-c6
15.Ne5xc6 b7xc6
16.Ne4-c5 Rf8-f6
17.Ra1-e1 g7-g6
18.Nc5xe6 Ra8-e8
19.Ne6-c5 O-O-O
20.Re1-e5 Kg8-h8
21.Rf1-c1 a7-a5
22.Nc5-e4 Rf6-f5
23.Rc1xc6 Nd5-b4
24.Rc6-c5 Rf5-f8
25.Re5-e7 Rc8-e8
26.Rc5xc7 Re8xe7
27.Rc7xe7 Nb4xa2
28.d4-d5 Na2-b4
29.d5-d6 Nb4-d5
30.Re7-e5 Nd5-b6
31.Re5xa5 Rf8-f4
32.f2-f3 h7-h6
33.Kg1-f2 Kh8-g7
34.Kf2-e3 Rf4-f5
35.Ra5-a7+ Rf5-f7
36.Ra7xf7+ Kg7xf7
37.Ke3-d4 Kf7-e6
38.b2-b4 Nb6-c8
39.Kd4-c5 g6-g5
40.b4-b5 h6-h5
41.b5-b6 Nc8xb6
42.Kc5xb6 g5-g4
43.Kb6-c6 g4xf3
44.Ne4-g5+ Ke6-f6
45.Ng5xf3 h5-h4
46.Kc6-c7 h4-h3
47.g2xh3 Kf6-f5
48.d6-d7 Kf5-f4
49.Nf3-d4 Kf4-e3
50.d7-d8 Ke3-f2
51.Qd8-g5 Kf2-f1
52.Qg5-g4 Kf1-f2
53.Qg4-e2+ Kf2-g1
54.Nd4-f3+ Kg1-h1
55.Qe2-f1 and Mate
I was having white pieces. while Beginner was Black. It took me lot of
moves to win Beginner Level. Can you suggest a faster win?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 12:36:01
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Please Analyze this Game.
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Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> Here is a game between me and GetClub which I won. What do you say
> about this game.
>
> White Myself
> Black Beginner
>
> Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.c4 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Qe7+ 6.Qe2 Bxd2+ 7.Nxd2
Qxe2+ 8.Bxe2 dxc4 9.Bxc4 Nf6 10.Ngf3 O-O 11.Ne5 Be6 12.Bxe6 fxe6
13.O-O Nd5 14.Ne4 Nc6 15.Nxc6 bxc6 16.Nc5 Rf6 17.Rae1 g6 18.Nxe6 Re8
19.Nc5 Rc8 20.Re5 Kh8 21.Rc1 a5 22.Ne4 Rf5 23.Rxc6 Nb4 24.Rcc5 Rff8
25.Re7 Rce8 26.Rcxc7 Rxe7 27.Rxe7 Nxa2 28.d5 Nb4 29.d6 Nd5 30.Re5 Nb6
31.Rxa5 Rf4 32.f3 h6 33.Kf2 Kg7 34.Ke3 Rf5 35.Ra7+ Rf7 36.Rxf7+ Kxf7
37.Kd4 Ke6 38.b4 Nc8 39.Kc5 g5 40.b5 h5 41.b6 Nxb6 42.Kxb6 g4 43.Kc6
gxf3 44.Ng5+ Kf6 45.Nxf3 h4 46.Kc7 h3 47.gxh3 Kf5 48.d7 Kf4 49.Nd4 Ke3
50.d8=Q Kf2 51.Qg5 Kf1 52.Qg4 Kf2 53.Qe2+ Kg1 54.Nf3+ Kh1 55.Qf1#
{White mates} 1-0
> It took me lot of moves to win Beginner Level. Can you suggest a
> faster win?
Don't worry about the number of moves -- it's not a good measure of
how well the game went. The game is basically won for White from
about move 20 but the only way to make the win is to force a pawn
through to promotion and that always takes time.
As a very general comment, endgames with rooks on the board tend to be
quite drawish. If you have extra pawns, it's often better to swap the
rooks off -- especially if your opponent lets you break up his pawns
in the process. So 25.Rxf5 gxf5 puts you in an even stronger position
than 26.Ra7+ Rf7 27.Rxf7+.
I won't make any more detailed comments as I've not looked very
closely at the game.
Dave.
--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ high-tech robot that's possessed
by Satan!
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 04:32:59
From: Sanny
Subject: 19th move by black is R-c8
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On 18, 1:33 pm, "Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Here is a game between me andGetClubwhich I won. What do you say
> about this game.
>
> White Myself
> Black Beginner
>
> Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
> 17.Ra1-e1 g7-g6
> 18.Nc5xe6 Ra8-e8
> 19.Ne6-c5 O-O-O
Correct Move
19: Ne6-c5 R-c8
So all moves are as follows.
1.e2-e4 e7-e6
2.d2-d4 d7-d5
3.e4xd5 e6xd5
4.c2-c4 Bf8-b4+
5.Bc1-d2 Qd8-e7+
6.Qd1-e2 Bb4xd2+
7.Nb1xd2 Qe7xe2+
8.Bf1xe2 d5xc4
9.Be2xc4 Ng8-f6
10.Ng1-f3 Ke8-g8
11.Nf3-e5 Bc8-e6
12.Bc4xe6 f7xe6
13.Ke1-g1 Nf6-d5
14.Nd2-e4 Nb8-c6
15.Ne5xc6 b7xc6
16.Ne4-c5 Rf8-f6
17.Ra1-e1 g7-g6
18.Nc5xe6 Ra8-e8
19.Ne6-c5 R-c8
20.Re1-e5 Kg8-h8
21.Rf1-c1 a7-a5
22.Nc5-e4 Rf6-f5
23.Rc1xc6 Nd5-b4
24.Rc6-c5 Rf5-f8
25.Re5-e7 Rc8-e8
26.Rc5xc7 Re8xe7
27.Rc7xe7 Nb4xa2
28.d4-d5 Na2-b4
29.d5-d6 Nb4-d5
30.Re7-e5 Nd5-b6
31.Re5xa5 Rf8-f4
32.f2-f3 h7-h6
33.Kg1-f2 Kh8-g7
34.Kf2-e3 Rf4-f5
35.Ra5-a7+ Rf5-f7
36.Ra7xf7+ Kg7xf7
37.Ke3-d4 Kf7-e6
38.b2-b4 Nb6-c8
39.Kd4-c5 g6-g5
40.b4-b5 h6-h5
41.b5-b6 Nc8xb6
42.Kc5xb6 g5-g4
43.Kb6-c6 g4xf3
44.Ne4-g5+ Ke6-f6
45.Ng5xf3 h5-h4
46.Kc6-c7 h4-h3
47.g2xh3 Kf6-f5
48.d6-d7 Kf5-f4
49.Nf3-d4 Kf4-e3
50.d7-d8 Ke3-f2
51.Qd8-g5 Kf2-f1
52.Qg5-g4 Kf1-f2
53.Qg4-e2+ Kf2-g1
54.Nd4-f3+ Kg1-h1
55.Qe2-f1 and Mate
Bye
Sanny
PlayChess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 11:36:12
From: Johannes Seppi
Subject: Re: Please Analyze this Game.
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On 18 2007 01:33:45 -0700, "Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote:
>Here is a game between me and GetClub which I won. What do you say
>about this game.
>
The moves don't seem to be legal chess moves, see below:
>White Myself
>Black Beginner
>
>Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
>1.e2-e4 e7-e6
> 2.d2-d4 d7-d5
> 3.e4xd5 e6xd5
> 4.c2-c4 Bf8-b4+
> 5.Bc1-d2 Qd8-e7+
> 6.Qd1-e2 Bb4xd2+
> 7.Nb1xd2 Qe7xe2+
> 8.Bf1xe2 d5xc4
> 9.Be2xc4 Ng8-f6
>10.Ng1-f3 Ke8-g8
Should this mean black is castling?
>11.Nf3-e5 Bc8-e6
>12.Bc4xe6 f7xe6
>13.Ke1-g1 Nf6-d5
>14.Nd2-e4 Nb8-c6
>15.Ne5xc6 b7xc6
>16.Ne4-c5 Rf8-f6
>17.Ra1-e1 g7-g6
>18.Nc5xe6 Ra8-e8
>19.Ne6-c5 O-O-O
Why (and how) is black castling again?
It is imposible to follow the moves from here on
[...]
Johannes
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 11:32:56
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Please Analyze this Game.
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Johannes Seppi <[email protected] > wrote:
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 19.Ne6-c5 O-O-O
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> Why (and how) is black castling again?
I think, in fact, the move is Re8-c8, which has been misread as Ke8-c8
and therefore written O-O-O.
> It is imposible to follow the moves from here on
It seems to work with 19.Rc8.
Dave.
--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a farm animal but you can never put
it down!
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 11:19:56
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Please Analyze this Game.
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Johannes Seppi <[email protected] > wrote:
> On 18 2007 01:33:45 -0700, "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Here is a game between me and GetClub which I won. What do you say
>> about this game.
Your computer has no conception of pawn structure. After 10... O-O,
the position is approximately level (black is slightly behind in
development but white has an isolated pawn which might be a weakness).
11... Be6 and 14... Nc6 are awful moves that mean that four of Black's
six pawns are weaknesses.
>> [...]
>> 10.Ng1-f3 Ke8-g8
>
> Should this mean black is castling?
Looks like it.
>> 19.Ne6-c5 O-O-O
>
> Why (and how) is black castling again?
Why? Because castling is a good way of getting your king to safety
and centralizing a rook.
How? Presumably by using Chess480 castling rules. The king moves two
squares towards the rook and the rook jumps across the king. So, the
Black king moves from g8 to e8 and the rook from e8 to f8. Sanny's
computer obviously hasn't noticed that this is illegal because the
white rook on e1 attacks e8.
:-)
> It is imposible to follow the moves from here on
Sanny's computer is so strong that a human has no hope of following
its moves.
Dave.
--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ refreshing juice beverage that has
mystical powers!
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