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Date: 05 Jun 2007 21:48:13
From: samsloan
Subject: Paul Truong's Tournament Career
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ost:52052 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:12 pm
jacklemoine wrote:
"Harry, you're mixing up several issues, some of which you added after
you started this thread. Then you leapt to conclusions about
exagerated claims.
"Didn't Paul win some national level championships right here in the
US? I'm sure you could look it up. I think he won a scholastic team
championship as well as an amateur team championship. In fact, I read
somewhere he won the 2001 US Open Blitz Championship. Come on!
"Harry, I just think that you are artifically demeaning Paul's
achievements in chess."
Sorry, but you are mistaken. Paul Truong has never won a national
championship of any kind in the US. Indeed, other than blitz
tournaments at the Polgar Chess Club, he has played very little.
Almost all of his tournament victories were on the Internet on US
Chess Live where he was ultimately suspended for cheating.
http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?12123950
My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 09:44:28
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's McCarthyism!
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On Jun 6, 3:22 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jun 6, 12:44 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 5, 5:57 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > having liberally smeared everyone who might contest his precious seat, mr
> > > slaon now proceeds to smear a player's record. i have seen paul troung play
> > > the twice european junior champion and russian champion too. otb mr truong
> > > would smear mr sloan! and so would i!
>
> > > but this is of little matter, since earlier today mr slaon has also raised
> > > the question of riage partners, which might give this group a laugh, as
> > > if he, sam sloan, would now like to invigilate what is normally private
> > > matters of partnership - though his interest is only about political
> > > opponents
>
> > > the same sloan who resists questions about his own rather juvenile interests
> > > to the extent of banning rob mitchell who asked about it
>
> > > i don't think this is a new low, since what you read here, dear reader, is
> > > just what people will say in public - the private stuff is eye-watering!@
>
> > > i didn't do too badly against the gent mentioned at top, but paul truong did
> > > better, and i don't need to fake my chess strength to say so, and don't need
> > > to pretend that i see strong play in action from mr troung, against the very
> > > best!
>
> > > what sam slaon is doing here is to 'question' yet another issue as mccarthy
> > > did, and which he too he is both incompetent to understand, and of course,
> > > to cast doubt upon from other motivation, as the sad senator did himself to
> > > amreican people from - what you think? - paranoia alone, or combined with
> > > not-a-little grandstanding?
>
> > > Phil Innes
>
> > > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >news:[email protected]...
>
> > > > ost:52052 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:12 pm
>
> > > > jacklemoine wrote:
> > > > "Harry, you're mixing up several issues, some of which you added after
> > > > you started this thread. Then you leapt to conclusions about
> > > > exagerated claims.
>
> > > > "Didn't Paul win some national level championships right here in the
> > > > US? I'm sure you could look it up. I think he won a scholastic team
> > > > championship as well as an amateur team championship. In fact, I read
> > > > somewhere he won the 2001 US Open Blitz Championship. Come on!
>
> > > > "Harry, I just think that you are artifically demeaning Paul's
> > > > achievements in chess."
>
> > > > Sorry, but you are mistaken. Paul Truong has never won a national
> > > > championship of any kind in the US. Indeed, other than blitz
> > > > tournaments at the Polgar Chess Club, he has played very little.
>
> > > > Almost all of his tournament victories were on the Internet on US
> > > > Chess Live where he was ultimately suspended for cheating.
>
> > > >http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?12123950
>
> > > > My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
> > > > cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
> > > > and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
>
> > > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Sloan liberally smears others in his odd fashion. Rather than directly
> > accuse he will imply. Rather than answer questions he will ignore them
> > and attempt to destroy the questioner. Sloan is a symptom of all that
> > is wrong with the USCF. He is the canker sore that calls to witness
> > the world of the diseased body politic of US chess. The problem is;
> > even if chess is healed it will not make Sloan go away.. He remains
> > the typhoid y of chess.
> > Rob
>
Sam don't you realize how foolish it makes you seem that you attack me
all
the time just because, with good reason, I have banned you and will
not let you back into my private email group?
> You claim to be a big-time life insurance salesman
Sam, I make no such claims. That is a lie.
> and yet you have
> nothing to do with your life but attack me thinking that this will
> eventually force me to let you back into my group.
Again. Asking direct questions is not an attack unless the answers you
give point out inconsistencies.
Why would asking questions of you be an attack?
Why did you pretend to not know who I was?
Why do you think it is proper to put the images you have on your
website?
Why do you think the sexist attitude you have is good for women and
children ?
Rob
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 09:33:42
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's McCarthyism!
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On Jun 6, 3:22 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jun 6, 12:44 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 5, 5:57 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > having liberally smeared everyone who might contest his precious seat, mr
> > > slaon now proceeds to smear a player's record. i have seen paul troung play
> > > the twice european junior champion and russian champion too. otb mr truong
> > > would smear mr sloan! and so would i!
>
> > > but this is of little matter, since earlier today mr slaon has also raised
> > > the question of riage partners, which might give this group a laugh, as
> > > if he, sam sloan, would now like to invigilate what is normally private
> > > matters of partnership - though his interest is only about political
> > > opponents
>
> > > the same sloan who resists questions about his own rather juvenile interests
> > > to the extent of banning rob mitchell who asked about it
>
> > > i don't think this is a new low, since what you read here, dear reader, is
> > > just what people will say in public - the private stuff is eye-watering!@
>
> > > i didn't do too badly against the gent mentioned at top, but paul truong did
> > > better, and i don't need to fake my chess strength to say so, and don't need
> > > to pretend that i see strong play in action from mr troung, against the very
> > > best!
>
> > > what sam slaon is doing here is to 'question' yet another issue as mccarthy
> > > did, and which he too he is both incompetent to understand, and of course,
> > > to cast doubt upon from other motivation, as the sad senator did himself to
> > > amreican people from - what you think? - paranoia alone, or combined with
> > > not-a-little grandstanding?
>
> > > Phil Innes
>
> > > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >news:[email protected]...
>
> > > > ost:52052 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:12 pm
>
> > > > jacklemoine wrote:
> > > > "Harry, you're mixing up several issues, some of which you added after
> > > > you started this thread. Then you leapt to conclusions about
> > > > exagerated claims.
>
> > > > "Didn't Paul win some national level championships right here in the
> > > > US? I'm sure you could look it up. I think he won a scholastic team
> > > > championship as well as an amateur team championship. In fact, I read
> > > > somewhere he won the 2001 US Open Blitz Championship. Come on!
>
> > > > "Harry, I just think that you are artifically demeaning Paul's
> > > > achievements in chess."
>
> > > > Sorry, but you are mistaken. Paul Truong has never won a national
> > > > championship of any kind in the US. Indeed, other than blitz
> > > > tournaments at the Polgar Chess Club, he has played very little.
>
> > > > Almost all of his tournament victories were on the Internet on US
> > > > Chess Live where he was ultimately suspended for cheating.
>
> > > >http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?12123950
>
> > > > My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
> > > > cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
> > > > and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
>
> > > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Sloan liberally smears others in his odd fashion. Rather than directly
> > accuse he will imply. Rather than answer questions he will ignore them
> > and attempt to destroy the questioner. Sloan is a symptom of all that
> > is wrong with the USCF. He is the canker sore that calls to witness
> > the world of the diseased body politic of US chess. The problem is;
> > even if chess is healed it will not make Sloan go away.. He remains
> > the typhoid y of chess.
> > Rob
>
> Don't you realize how foolish it makes you seem that you attack me all
> the time just because, with good reason, I have banned you and will
> not let you back into my private email group?
>
> You claim to be a big-time life insurance salesman and yet you have
> nothing to do with your life but attack me thinking that this will
> eventually force me to let you back into my group.
>
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 08:22:12
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's McCarthyism!
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On Jun 6, 12:44 am, Rob <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Jun 5, 5:57 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > having liberally smeared everyone who might contest his precious seat, mr
> > slaon now proceeds to smear a player's record. i have seen paul troung play
> > the twice european junior champion and russian champion too. otb mr truong
> > would smear mr sloan! and so would i!
>
> > but this is of little matter, since earlier today mr slaon has also raised
> > the question of riage partners, which might give this group a laugh, as
> > if he, sam sloan, would now like to invigilate what is normally private
> > matters of partnership - though his interest is only about political
> > opponents
>
> > the same sloan who resists questions about his own rather juvenile interests
> > to the extent of banning rob mitchell who asked about it
>
> > i don't think this is a new low, since what you read here, dear reader, is
> > just what people will say in public - the private stuff is eye-watering!@
>
> > i didn't do too badly against the gent mentioned at top, but paul truong did
> > better, and i don't need to fake my chess strength to say so, and don't need
> > to pretend that i see strong play in action from mr troung, against the very
> > best!
>
> > what sam slaon is doing here is to 'question' yet another issue as mccarthy
> > did, and which he too he is both incompetent to understand, and of course,
> > to cast doubt upon from other motivation, as the sad senator did himself to
> > amreican people from - what you think? - paranoia alone, or combined with
> > not-a-little grandstanding?
>
> > Phil Innes
>
> > "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> > > ost:52052 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:12 pm
>
> > > jacklemoine wrote:
> > > "Harry, you're mixing up several issues, some of which you added after
> > > you started this thread. Then you leapt to conclusions about
> > > exagerated claims.
>
> > > "Didn't Paul win some national level championships right here in the
> > > US? I'm sure you could look it up. I think he won a scholastic team
> > > championship as well as an amateur team championship. In fact, I read
> > > somewhere he won the 2001 US Open Blitz Championship. Come on!
>
> > > "Harry, I just think that you are artifically demeaning Paul's
> > > achievements in chess."
>
> > > Sorry, but you are mistaken. Paul Truong has never won a national
> > > championship of any kind in the US. Indeed, other than blitz
> > > tournaments at the Polgar Chess Club, he has played very little.
>
> > > Almost all of his tournament victories were on the Internet on US
> > > Chess Live where he was ultimately suspended for cheating.
>
> > >http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?12123950
>
> > > My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
> > > cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
> > > and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
>
> > > Sam Sloan
>
> Sloan liberally smears others in his odd fashion. Rather than directly
> accuse he will imply. Rather than answer questions he will ignore them
> and attempt to destroy the questioner. Sloan is a symptom of all that
> is wrong with the USCF. He is the canker sore that calls to witness
> the world of the diseased body politic of US chess. The problem is;
> even if chess is healed it will not make Sloan go away.. He remains
> the typhoid y of chess.
> Rob
Don't you realize how foolish it makes you seem that you attack me all
the time just because, with good reason, I have banned you and will
not let you back into my private email group?
You claim to be a big-time life insurance salesman and yet you have
nothing to do with your life but attack me thinking that this will
eventually force me to let you back into my group.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 10:53:35
From: Chess One
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's McCarthyism!
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"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't you realize how foolish it makes you seem that you attack me all
> the time just because, with good reason,
With the most spurious reasons I ever read - would make a cat laugh out loud
!
> I have banned you and will
> not let you back into my private email group?
>
> You claim to be a big-time life insurance salesman
O no! That word 'claim', which when added to 'big-time' makes what an
ordinarily modest bloke does for a living into a new outrage!
Maybe I should start to collect Sam Sloan jokes? Unfortunately they are not
on this model:
What time is it? - You mean, now?
Which is merely daft and obvious evasion. They are more on the scandal
seeking exaggeration-kind.
> and yet you have
> nothing to do with your life but attack me thinking that this will
Sam Sloan, entering his 60's after being out in the cold for a long time,
has become more than a tad paranoid!
a) The PREVIOUS month Rob Mitchell spent substantial amount of time with
Louis Blair [imagine!] defending Sloan's work
b) when the SUBJECT changed to another of Sloan's activities - this is
called 'an attack'.
Sloan has also pulled the same shit with me, suggesting that just because we
publish USCF board-aspirants that we endorse the same people. When he /ran
away/ from the very same interview questions put to them.
If this is really not hysterical paranoia, what else is it, other than
dementia or just plain lying?
> eventually force me to let you back into my group.
The only reason I stay in your group is to observe the more egregious lies -
and also note who supports them, and if they ever address the chess public?
The latest / taboo / subject on your group was the question of what benefits
scholastic players, when Sloan criticised Polgar for saying 12 hours a day
at chess is too long, no one spoke about the children's welfare.
Instead they spoke about who owned the tournament, and how much all this
che$$ was worth to USCF.
Phil Innes
Vermont
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> Sam Sloan
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 21:44:36
From: Rob
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan's McCarthyism!
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On Jun 5, 5:57 pm, "Chess One" <[email protected] > wrote:
> having liberally smeared everyone who might contest his precious seat, mr
> slaon now proceeds to smear a player's record. i have seen paul troung play
> the twice european junior champion and russian champion too. otb mr truong
> would smear mr sloan! and so would i!
>
> but this is of little matter, since earlier today mr slaon has also raised
> the question of riage partners, which might give this group a laugh, as
> if he, sam sloan, would now like to invigilate what is normally private
> matters of partnership - though his interest is only about political
> opponents
>
> the same sloan who resists questions about his own rather juvenile interests
> to the extent of banning rob mitchell who asked about it
>
> i don't think this is a new low, since what you read here, dear reader, is
> just what people will say in public - the private stuff is eye-watering!@
>
> i didn't do too badly against the gent mentioned at top, but paul truong did
> better, and i don't need to fake my chess strength to say so, and don't need
> to pretend that i see strong play in action from mr troung, against the very
> best!
>
> what sam slaon is doing here is to 'question' yet another issue as mccarthy
> did, and which he too he is both incompetent to understand, and of course,
> to cast doubt upon from other motivation, as the sad senator did himself to
> amreican people from - what you think? - paranoia alone, or combined with
> not-a-little grandstanding?
>
> Phil Innes
>
> "samsloan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > ost:52052 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:12 pm
>
> > jacklemoine wrote:
> > "Harry, you're mixing up several issues, some of which you added after
> > you started this thread. Then you leapt to conclusions about
> > exagerated claims.
>
> > "Didn't Paul win some national level championships right here in the
> > US? I'm sure you could look it up. I think he won a scholastic team
> > championship as well as an amateur team championship. In fact, I read
> > somewhere he won the 2001 US Open Blitz Championship. Come on!
>
> > "Harry, I just think that you are artifically demeaning Paul's
> > achievements in chess."
>
> > Sorry, but you are mistaken. Paul Truong has never won a national
> > championship of any kind in the US. Indeed, other than blitz
> > tournaments at the Polgar Chess Club, he has played very little.
>
> > Almost all of his tournament victories were on the Internet on US
> > Chess Live where he was ultimately suspended for cheating.
>
> >http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?12123950
>
> > My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
> > cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
> > and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
>
> > Sam Sloan
Sloan liberally smears others in his odd fashion. Rather than directly
accuse he will imply. Rather than answer questions he will ignore them
and attempt to destroy the questioner. Sloan is a symptom of all that
is wrong with the USCF. He is the canker sore that calls to witness
the world of the diseased body politic of US chess. The problem is;
even if chess is healed it will not make Sloan go away.. He remains
the typhoid y of chess.
Rob
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 00:29:58
From: D. Spencer Hines
Subject: Re: Paul Truong's Tournament Career
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Hmmmmmm...
How did he allegedly cheat?
DSH
"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
> cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
> and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 22:57:21
From: Chess One
Subject: Sam Sloan's McCarthyism!
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having liberally smeared everyone who might contest his precious seat, mr
slaon now proceeds to smear a player's record. i have seen paul troung play
the twice european junior champion and russian champion too. otb mr truong
would smear mr sloan! and so would i!
but this is of little matter, since earlier today mr slaon has also raised
the question of riage partners, which might give this group a laugh, as
if he, sam sloan, would now like to invigilate what is normally private
matters of partnership - though his interest is only about political
opponents
the same sloan who resists questions about his own rather juvenile interests
to the extent of banning rob mitchell who asked about it
i don't think this is a new low, since what you read here, dear reader, is
just what people will say in public - the private stuff is eye-watering!@
i didn't do too badly against the gent mentioned at top, but paul truong did
better, and i don't need to fake my chess strength to say so, and don't need
to pretend that i see strong play in action from mr troung, against the very
best!
what sam slaon is doing here is to 'question' yet another issue as mccarthy
did, and which he too he is both incompetent to understand, and of course,
to cast doubt upon from other motivation, as the sad senator did himself to
amreican people from - what you think? - paranoia alone, or combined with
not-a-little grandstanding?
Phil Innes
"samsloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ost:52052 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:12 pm
>
> jacklemoine wrote:
> "Harry, you're mixing up several issues, some of which you added after
> you started this thread. Then you leapt to conclusions about
> exagerated claims.
>
> "Didn't Paul win some national level championships right here in the
> US? I'm sure you could look it up. I think he won a scholastic team
> championship as well as an amateur team championship. In fact, I read
> somewhere he won the 2001 US Open Blitz Championship. Come on!
>
> "Harry, I just think that you are artifically demeaning Paul's
> achievements in chess."
>
>
> Sorry, but you are mistaken. Paul Truong has never won a national
> championship of any kind in the US. Indeed, other than blitz
> tournaments at the Polgar Chess Club, he has played very little.
>
> Almost all of his tournament victories were on the Internet on US
> Chess Live where he was ultimately suspended for cheating.
>
> http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?12123950
>
> My information is that Paul Truong has been suspended or banned for
> cheating on all the major Internet Chess Servers, including ICC, WCN
> and US Chess Live. I do not know about FICS or playchess.com .
>
> Sam Sloan
>
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